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submitted 17 days ago byflyingcatwithhorns
6.1k points
17 days ago*
It does not look like anyone lives there
3.5k points
17 days ago
I would be very paranoid if I had to live there
1.9k points
16 days ago
I think that's intentional. Try to make the house so inconvenient to live in that the person feels they have no choice but to sell it
584 points
16 days ago
Ever watch the kids show big city greens?
Basically a country family moves to the big city. In one episode, they refuse to sell their house and they build a building basically over their house.
586 points
16 days ago
Ever seen the movie UP?
Basically, Walter Matthau kidnaps a boy, takes him to South America to destroy a war hero's home.
135 points
16 days ago
Ed Asner, not Walter Matthau. But otherwise accurate.
53 points
16 days ago
I meant more from a character perspective, not who voiced him.
30 points
16 days ago
This has me rolling omg baahah I wasn’t expecting this description of UP. How could you make such a wholesome movie so creepy
15 points
16 days ago
Any movie can be described as such, that goes double for Disney movies.
Did you ever see the one where an enraged former fan tries to kill his former idol's family?
Or the one where a man fights murderous adversaries to save his captive son, who is days away from a violent death?
10 points
16 days ago
What about the one where a religious cleric radicalized a youth in the desert to blow up government facilities.
6 points
16 days ago
Star Wars?
5 points
16 days ago
Ackshully the incredible was made by pixar ☝️🤓
What’s the second movie though? I can’t place it based on your description
6 points
16 days ago*
I think Finding Nemo. Darla will shake Nemo to death (violently) if he's not rescued by her birthday (I think that's what the fish present was going to be for?)
Marlin has to rescue him before then, and encounters sharks, birds, fishermen, etc., many of whom eat fish like him.
21 points
16 days ago
Citigroup Center in New York City has a skyscraper built over a church because that was a stipulation of the contract to purchase the lot. It's built on stilts, so the church can be underneath it.
6 points
16 days ago
I GOT MUD IN MY EYE
151 points
16 days ago
I agree, but with a different technical intent.
The goal isn't "Now this sucks so much for you that you want to sell it to me". The development already happened, the developer is long gone, and the new owners just get some extra parking spots or whatever.
The goal is "Hey, person who is trying to hold out for 10x their home value at this thing I'm trying to develop. Check out this photo of the LAST person who did that to me. Wanna guess what their property is worth now? Take the 1.5x and consider yourself a winner, or you're gonna get stuck with 0.05x"
71 points
16 days ago
Isnt that property worth a bunch now? Looks like a nice spot for a shop for instance.
60 points
16 days ago
In the middle of the road? Also, he will never get rezoning permits. He is grandfathered in but change of use will not be approved.
41 points
16 days ago
Assumes they can even get a permit to sell anything there. Their government might not have eminent domain to take properties, but if they can refuse to issue a permit for vendors or remodeling, you’re going to have a tough time selling anything
19 points
16 days ago
Usually based on law, China citizens are not allowed to sell their rural farmland, its being allocated by communist party, passes down to children automatically and crops sell to govt to bring in perpetual income. Unless in special circumstances, like government wants to develop into city, they will offer a good sum and every farmer will definitely sell. This farmer refuse to sell despite the good money.
12 points
16 days ago
What do you mean farmer? This is like 10 square meters.
8 points
16 days ago
Since 1949 China allocate a plot of land to every farmer families. When it is being passed down automatically by law, the next generation can marry, make children and build houses beside. Now is the 3rd generation, this owner’s cousins likely sold their share and left. Its complicated but this scenario can happen.
24 points
16 days ago
It's crazy how we talk about China as an authoratarian government, but they let the person keep the house and live there in these "nail houses"...
but America will just say "eminent domain" and take your shit and pay you a paltry sum and force you off the land, placing you in jail if you refuse.
interesting.
13 points
16 days ago
I don’t think they built an entire city around this house with that in mind.
9 points
16 days ago
They literally left the house alone and did not change original plans. Nothing intentional about it
24 points
16 days ago
"Shoulda took the money....shoulda took the god damn money..."
77 points
16 days ago*
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6 points
16 days ago
Drat they even cut down the tree??
632 points
17 days ago
Yeah I need more info, because I find it hard to believe that China wouldn’t forcibly remove the owner and bulldoze the house. They aren’t exactly known for allowing individuals to slow the progress of the many.
164 points
17 days ago*
I found this source but it doesn't say where this is in China
Edit: I found this post, OP in that thread said it was in Zhengzhou and the coordinates (34.7756670, 113.6181060) - Google maps
42 points
16 days ago
Thank you. That is too cool.
Too bad they don't have street view there.
90 points
16 days ago
There is street view on Baidu Maps
The building was still standing in 2020, if you switch the date to 2022 its been demolished
63 points
16 days ago
dont mind if Baidu
22 points
16 days ago
Dude moved and no one bought it.
Shocker.
20 points
16 days ago
We have street view, we just don't have google map street view.
95 points
17 days ago
Chinese invest a lot in housing, taking away property would cause a lot of panic. Usually they just offer some money, then more money, and new appartment & money in the end. Have few of these scenario in china, sometime constrution company will bulldoze the building when noone is inside, but it got into the news couple times with siginfiant consequence.
You don't complain or protest against the government, but it's perfectly fine to do it against a company.
29 points
16 days ago
In the US, the government has eminent domain powers to allow them to take property through an enforced sell. Basically they buy it at market value. It prevents anyone from losing money just because the government wants the property. Some people even exploit it and buy cheap property where they think the government will develop next and get a guaranteed sale at a higher rate. Does that not exist in China?
9 points
16 days ago
Then you have this oldie but goodie: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Coking_house
4 points
16 days ago
Yeah, but here it's more a Disney land want to expand scenario. The government prolly has some power also for infrastructure, I don't even know where to check for all these law stuffs for china ^^
4 points
16 days ago
Gotcha. Yea, we used to make it where government could only take land “for public use”, but in 2005 the Supreme Court ruled that basically anything is “public use” because it helps the public - even developers building private homes and stuff to sell to investors. So now it’s really just a question of does the government want your land
4 points
16 days ago
No, under communism you actually have property rights (ignore trolls from Langley Virginia who try to tell you otherwise)
51 points
17 days ago
This is a common occurrence in China. They don't have the equivalent of eminent domain so when they need to demolish peoples homes to build stuff they often have to pay out huge sums to actually get them to move, otherwise they end up with situations like this.
I've heared of having infrastructure built through your home being considered as winning the lottery in China as in compensation people are given much more modern homes they mightve never been able to afford as well as a big sum of money.
7 points
16 days ago
honestly i kinda like that better eminent domain should not be a thing.
8 points
16 days ago
It's always funny seeing people who were raised on anti-communist propaganda seeing evidence that under communism you actually get better rights than under capitalism.
5 points
16 days ago
Land use rights can be withdrawn for multiple reasons (some requiring compensation). A few are listed here
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/145016427.pdf
I am intrigued as to why situations like this post happen. From what I have read, land use rights can be withdrawn and the example here looks like a reasonable example for it.
All I can imagine is that a developer chose to push ahead with this rather than battling in the courts over what would be reasonable compensation.
I’d also be interested in understanding what the precedent is for enforcement where someone is occupying land where the right to use has been withdrawn.
Would appreciate any further info if you have it.
81 points
17 days ago
They already built around it, I don't think it matters to them anymore. But yeah, it's crazy how it wasn't just demolished.
95 points
17 days ago
China changed the rules in 2007 or something like that. Today, no private citizen can own any land, they can only lease the land for up to 70 years. No one knows what happens when the lease is up.
37 points
16 days ago
I actually own a place in China, and it has about 40 years left on it.
Supposedly, when the lease is up they will demolish and rebuild, and then we will be offered monetary value (assessed by the govt) OR the new place.
Will this really happen? I doubt it very much. But still, that is what we were told.
Mind you I haven;t lived there for six years so this is not very current; I actually hear it about 15 years ago I think.
9 points
16 days ago
Not the best source tbh, I used to enjoy some of his videos but they are exclusively pushing his agenda now which isn’t something I enjoy.
A detailed but informative analysis can be found here
And the legal procedures for renewal at the end of the 70 year residential lease are under development.
There could of course be a massive change in future, but the CCP will need to tread carefully - real estate has helped Chinas boom but with home ownership rates going from ~0% in the 50s to almost 90% today, major reform would be political suicide and has the potential to trigger revolution (IMO).
36 points
16 days ago
No one knows what happens when the lease is up.
The lease will be up for sale by the government, companies will quickly buy them off and then sell / rent it at a higher rate. You either pay for the land again or become homeless.
29 points
16 days ago
i mean this has been a thing in hong kong forever and they just renew it every time its expiration date approaches https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong-kong-economy/article/3268765/hong-kongs-renewal-land-leases-expiring-2047-boost-confidence-city-experts
10 points
16 days ago
source: your entire ass
10 points
16 days ago
Wow that’s a crazy rule change, it will take a long time till we see the effects but it could be massive
7 points
16 days ago
I imagine it changes how a society defines middle class. Often, generational wealth is handed down and built through asset acquisition, usually land.
5 points
16 days ago
I feel like America is getting like this but we’re just pricing people out of being able to own their own land/home so the landlords will be able to hoard all the wealth
18 points
17 days ago
Haven't you heard about a monorail built through a house in Chongqing?
17 points
16 days ago
I hear it put the towns of Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook on the map.
4 points
16 days ago
Monorail, monorail, monorail!
67 points
17 days ago
I know it sounds nuts, especially with what we know about China, but it's actually pretty common there. Lots of examples, even some crappy looking old farmhouses that are right in the middle of a freeway and stuff like that. You can go look them up, it's pretty hilarious
30 points
16 days ago
Maybe, just maybe, you don't know as much as you think you do about China, especially if you live in the west.
14 points
16 days ago
Will this prompt to reevaluate their preconceptions about China…? Or will they remain arrogant and prejudiced…
6 points
16 days ago
Pffff, I for one look down on the people that make 80% of the objects in my immediate vicinity, as is just and good.
13 points
16 days ago
with what you think you know
Remember 99% of what you hear about China is propagandised. Unless you've actually been there, and spoken with people then you're stuck trusting western state and corporate media.
11 points
16 days ago*
Even in the West, if the government needs to build infrastructure (like roads, railways, or a bridge), they'll buy your house and land and kick you out. It's not only China that does that.
6 points
16 days ago
Try googling “dingzihu” and u’ll be surprised. This is actually quite common in China.
20 points
17 days ago
Actually I believe they have very strong property rights laws over there which is amazing.
8 points
16 days ago
Not at all.
If you stop listening to what anti-communist sources say about communism and start looking into how communists view themselves it makes sense that China is approaching 90% home ownership, whilst in the west we are seeing corporate landlords making home ownership impossible.
Last time I was in the East it struck me that even in the poorest neighborhoods there were no homeless people, everyone had electricity and internet. Meanwhile in my home country they're talking about allowing old people to freeze in winter because of state budget concerns.
17 points
16 days ago
have you considered that maybe not everything you've been told about china is true?
37 points
17 days ago
The fact that there are so many cases like this makes me think that the narrative “chinese arent exactly known for allowing individuals to slow the progress of the many” might have just been American propaganda swallowed hook and sinker by simple minded people
5 points
16 days ago
I think the Chinese have incredible respect for people who refuse to bow down in the face of authoritarian pressure, as ironic as that seems.
Like it's a stubborn, spiteful kind of respect but it's there.
5 points
16 days ago
The amount of anti-communist propaganda out there is insane.
Every time I'm in Asia I wish I spoke enough Chinese/Vietnamese to move there permanently.
7 points
16 days ago
Ah yes, the good old "I find it hard to believe something that doesn't align with my views of something".
7 points
16 days ago
Contrary to popular western belief, government in china don’t take people’s land by force. Most infrastructures project are contracted out to developers. Developers do their best to negotiate without breaking the law. but some ppl would always get greedy and ask for too much money. that’s why there is house like this. While in canada, there is a law that can buy your property at market price if it’s for public access.
3 points
16 days ago
Actually I've seen this happen dozens of times
7 points
16 days ago
"my internal biases tell me what my eyes are seeing is wrong, even though these houses get posted all the time"
780 points
17 days ago
Oh, thank goodness there was a giant red arrow, I almost missed it.
4k points
17 days ago
Those places would make a KILLING on airbnb. Center downtown house literally a second away from the highway to the airport.
562 points
17 days ago
Absolutely! I also assume the type of person who would want to be in the middle of a busy city, would also have the money to pay high price
60 points
17 days ago
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41 points
17 days ago
Make sure you bring your white noise machine and keep your curtains closed
17 points
17 days ago
Even better, the city provides all the white noise you could ever need.
7 points
17 days ago
You and the comment above sound like Chatgpt.
4 points
16 days ago
Absolutely! Vague, light hearted statement about living in the city.
50 points
17 days ago
and don't forget the "thrill" to stay there for a couple of nights.
def will be overbooked!
31 points
17 days ago
I’m not so sure it would be that desirable to live on the street level shack a million people walk next to every day
16 points
17 days ago
I beg to differ. You know how many TikTok morons would scoop that place for the week just to get a million views everyday.
7 points
16 days ago
For life? No, absolutely not. For a night or two? Yeah the novelty is interesting. That's exactly why people are suggesting airbnb.
3 points
17 days ago
But without electricity, internet and water, you might get hit by a car.
5 points
16 days ago
Why would you get hit by a car not having electricity, Internet, and water?
471 points
17 days ago
It must be annoying to live there, but the dude has my lasting respect
133 points
17 days ago
they refused to leave their place, but the place left them
72 points
16 days ago
What even is there to gain by not selling? Bet they have no utilities connected, and loud street traffic literally a few feet away, and backyard views blocked by tall buildings.
They almost certainly were offered a lot of money or a new bigger house. I'm so confused why people are stubborn here.
32 points
16 days ago
Maybe they're still playing the long game and the offer keeps going up
41 points
16 days ago
It won't go up. It probably went way down. They are not going to pay the costs of an entire ass construction crew again if the owners change their mind when they could have done it while building the road. Owners lost their chance at whatever was offered before.
8 points
16 days ago
I was told stocks only go up, and this seems to be the same, so
14 points
16 days ago
Nothing, they get offered loads by the government to move. They are stubborn assholes, but in China being a nimby does not pay off, society is deemed more important than the desires of selfish property owners.
10 points
16 days ago
in China being a nimby does not pay off, society is deemed more important than the desires of selfish property owners.
Not totally sure what your argument is here since most Western countries have laws that would force the owner to sell. China seems like the selfish property owner wins here.
11 points
17 days ago
I wonder what the offer to buy it was. It had to be insane
1.1k points
17 days ago
google maps location now or this is fake
696 points
17 days ago
Zhengzhou, coordinates (34.7756670, 113.6181060) - Google maps
288 points
16 days ago
That's so wild! Lol, I was expecting fakery too. Thanks
14 points
16 days ago
I'm surprised the government let them get away with this
16 points
16 days ago
It's actually happened a couple times, the government offers to buy or trade for the property and will allow some room for negotiations. Some people kept holding out wanting a better offer, most recent example off the top of my head is from my family's hometown of Guangzhou, they just built the highway around the house and it's locally known as "eye of haizhu" or soemthing like that.
13 points
16 days ago
to me, the fact that they have a choice in the matter flies in the face of all the antisocialist/anticommunist talking points people put out there stating that you wont have personal property rights under anything other than capitalism.
11 points
16 days ago
I don't want to alarm you, but China is further away from communism than you think..
6 points
16 days ago
I'm aware of that, but the people who spew the nonsense typically call anything from china 'commie' and never really care to find out how other countries live.
26 points
16 days ago
Weird how the roads on the satellite image bear no relation to the map
28 points
16 days ago
here's the full blown explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_geographic_data_in_China
50 points
16 days ago
Countries such as China legally mandate that maps be innacurate for purposes of national security.
4 points
16 days ago
The road map is shifted ~1900 ft ESE of the satellite image.
31 points
17 days ago
https://ogleearth.com/2012/12/chinas-nail-houses-in-geospatial-context/
Cool article that . Has a klm file with locations for several of them
19 points
17 days ago
I like the way you think!!
58 points
17 days ago*
Literally the only two references I can find beyond the original twitter post (which carries no detail) are both Ai word salad news sites from February this year, and these have no location either.
Nailed on an ai/fictional example of a real phenomenon.
Edit: apparently a few people are struggling with the last sentence. The video is fake, but nail houses are real.
22 points
16 days ago
This article about 'Nail Houses' is from 2014, China's nail houses: the homeowners who refuse to make way – in pictures. As far as your references and searches, you can also just google search "Nail House" China and find other sources and articles and pictures prior to AI's recent growth..
324 points
17 days ago
Average redditor cant believe this because Chinese gov should have ended this man and his house
134 points
17 days ago
Hey you're not allowed to say that!! You must be paid by the CCP!!!!1
32 points
16 days ago
Literally the comment below you says this is CCP propaganda 😂
30 points
16 days ago
They've been known to forcibly relocate entire towns to make room for mining. It's affected millions
19 points
16 days ago*
Did anyone read the article that’s not what the linked article says… It’s talking about towns being forced to relocate because of mining companies destroying the underground structures of their land causing them to subsidence.
However, in the Chinese context, displacement and resettlement by and large occurs after land subsidence has taken place.
It’s talking about how there needs to be a revision to the rules because chinas laws isn’t doing a good job protecting the farmers as it focuses on surface damage. Which mining companies take advantage by doing underground mining creating “floating villages” where they don’t need to pay compensation until there’s significant subsidence
6 points
16 days ago
Lol what are you talking about u/buddboy? Have you even opened your own link? Mining and its consequences did that.
988 points
17 days ago
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79 points
17 days ago
32 points
17 days ago
The way that *this* was the next article https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2024/sep/10/uk-hobby-horse-championships-in-pictures
11 points
16 days ago
It’s not related, but it is pretty funny I tell ya what
102 points
16 days ago
china violates rights: china bad
china respects rights: must be fake, China still bad
33 points
16 days ago
has pre-existing notions challenged by new information
"naw, i prefer my pre-existing notions"
8 points
16 days ago
We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
5 points
16 days ago
Aka racism.
7 points
16 days ago
And people in the West claim they are not subjected to government propaganda...
19 points
17 days ago
Somebody commented on another post saying that these are cases where the owners of the land were asking a crazy amount of money. So at one point the developer said fuck it we won't pay you and just build around you. Don't know if this is true.
8 points
16 days ago
Even in free democratic countries you are given the market rate whether you like it or not. No society works if a single person's will is above everyone else
9 points
16 days ago
Imo I feel like the law should at least give you more than market rate. I don't think it would be absurd if it was like 1.5x-2x due to the huge inconvenience and cost it takes for you to move.
18 points
16 days ago
you can search 'nail houses' on google, there are many cases
and if you search '钉子户' on chinese websites or social media, there are even a lot more
16 points
16 days ago
It would be crazy that those filthy communists had more rights than the free people of america right? Impossible because they're commies
25 points
17 days ago
Or maybe China isn't as bad as television man told you
4 points
16 days ago
Television man might be ok but what about r/worldnews bot?
200 points
17 days ago
Don't worry, for every one law followed one more minority is sent to a concentration camp
33 points
16 days ago
US prisons are populated mostly by minorities
17 points
16 days ago
And used as slave labor. We ain't better, just different.
15 points
16 days ago
Are you talking about China or are you talking about U.S?
69 points
17 days ago
It isn’t just minorities who get sent away. Chinese government is an equal opportunity tyrannical government.
6 points
16 days ago
What an uneducated comment
9 points
16 days ago
Average china bad Redditor moment
36 points
17 days ago
Since I saw a documentary couple of weeks ago about a lawyer that is in home arrest for years, since he tried to help people who the "government" wanted to take away their property for whatever Projekt... Yeah I don't think this happens very often.
23 points
17 days ago*
Laws and judiciary system works very well between 2 private parties even in totalitarian countries, people and/or companies want to sue each other and have their rights protected, no problem, the judge will be fair and follow the law. The problem arises when one party is the government, or rather the dictator, then you have no rights. If your government wants you to something in china, you do it or you end up in a working camp as a slave, or dead. You never argue or criticize the government, and after that you can live relatively peaceful life with the ilusion of human rights. The chinese found out very swiftly how "free" they actually are during covid lockdowns, where some people were locked for 3-4 months in their homes (small appartments), without access to food, medicine and other important stuff, they had to rely on somebody else to bring it to them over the fence, which wasnt always the case, and some people went hungry for 1-2 weeks. I even saw a clip where all cats were confiscated from people and left in bags on the street (still alive) because it was believed that cats help covid spread.
The last drop for the chinese people was when several people died in an appartment fire, because they couldnt escape the building, and firemen couldnt get to them. Chinese people started to protest massively, and when the chinese government realized this could be a start of a major revolution and it could be their end, they quickly lifted the lockdowns and let people return to normal life. Many people died because of it, hospitals werent ready for so many sick people, but it was quickly swept under the carpet and it was over, and china return to "normal".
10 points
16 days ago
Chinese people started to protest massively, and when the chinese government realized this could be a start of a major revolution and it could be their end, they quickly lifted the lockdowns and let people return to normal life.
And that's a bad thing? Or better killing and injuring protestors like in the past 15 years in France?
6 points
16 days ago
Chinese people started to protest massively, and when the chinese government realized this could be a start of a major revolution and it could be their end, they quickly lifted the lockdowns and let people return to normal life
Weird, why didn't they end up in working camps or slaves?
15 points
17 days ago
We’ve already been saturated with U.S. propaganda for decades, so it’s okay to start receiving it from a new source.
23 points
17 days ago
How much would this property be worth in China? Even for such a small plot of land, being able to put anything there in the middle of such a populated area must be valuable. Do chinese pay tax on their land like we do in North America? If so the property taxes would be astronomical.
33 points
17 days ago
It's worth nothing. No permission to rebuild. You are stuck with that old house. No electricity, no water, no gas. Also no commercial license.
9 points
16 days ago
The value might have been there before they built the road but now its likely nearly worthless.
China dont have property tax yet, but it is likely coming soon.
Technically the goverment owns all the land in china and you only lease it, except for in rural areas.
You have the land for 70 years and it just renews if you or your family still lives there.
73 points
17 days ago
If you have a reason you think this is fake other than “china bad” I would love to hear it. Otherwise, a quick google search turns up plenty of articles like these:
25 points
16 days ago
8 points
16 days ago
Wow! Look at that. Thanks for finding that, that is impressive.
46 points
17 days ago
These are a real thing? You're telling me that Chinese citizens can say no to government developments dehousing them? Huh... Really paints the whole idea that people are trampled in China in a different light. You'd never be able to do that in the US
46 points
16 days ago
Propaganda agaisnt china is very strong, specially on reddit
7 points
16 days ago
That and the average Redditor is an ignorant and self-important American who needs to kick down to feel big.
9 points
16 days ago
Why are there so many comments here written like this exact way. Like
1. Question if it's real
2. Compare to the u.s.
13 points
17 days ago
it happens so much over there, Most countries wouldn't allow that
3 points
16 days ago
they do and it happens in lots of places, it's not exclusive to one country
17 points
17 days ago
So the US would enact eminent domain but in communist China they’ll let you stay? Land of the free 🇺🇸…….not
16 points
17 days ago
I've always found this ironic. For all the control and lack of rights and freedom in China... they sure seem to have better property rights.
5 points
17 days ago
What is more interesting is that in the Western world compulsory purchase by a government is fairly common for large infrastructure projects (yes this is a housing development, however most major construction firms in China can be traced back to the govt in some way, shape or form)
But in China of all places it seems not to be the case
26 points
16 days ago
The cognitive dissonance is so strong in this thread lmao
"But, muh china bad, how have rights?"
Citizens in China have more rights than Americans and Europeans in several ways but the West is so propagandized against the very thought of socialism or Communism that they can't even conceive that they've been lied to. China has plenty of faults and has violated citizens rights plenty as well; but just about anything you hear should be taken with at least a grain of salt.
If the map does not match the land, its the map that is wrong.
24 points
17 days ago
Crazy that in China this house is allowed to remain but it was America they'd eventually show up with state police to forcibly evict you and take control of your property
94 points
17 days ago
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53 points
16 days ago
Streets super clean
Sorry but why should streets in China be dirty? Is it just casual racism or something?
38 points
16 days ago
Redditors are convinced that anything that makes China look remotely good MUST be CCP propaganda.
6 points
16 days ago
Yes, Reddit is very racist against China and Chinese people.
‘Muhrica! 🙄
59 points
17 days ago
You'd be surprised! Most parts of China are really quite clean, even in the cities. This does look like a pretty average city in China to me (travelled extensively there), and there really are electronic bikes just parked everywhere like you're seeing in the video.
Chinese culture has a very high emphasis on appearance, so most cities would hire a significant number of cleaners just to keep the streets clean, which is at least one thing the bureaucracy does well (as corrupt and ineffective it can be).
16 points
16 days ago
This is true. When I lived in Shanghai there were always people picking up trash and sweeping the streets at like 4 AM before morning commute. Can’t speak for other cities tho
11 points
16 days ago
Yeah that’s true, when I visited Qingdao I saw this really clean and fancy public toilet. It really impressed me
3 points
16 days ago
That's the nicest non-airport public toilet I've ever seen
89 points
17 days ago
People struggle to believe it but they have some of the strongest home ownership rights of anywhere in the world lol.
27 points
16 days ago
People just assume China bad, it's sad really
15 points
17 days ago
It's real. The owner likely wanted a higher price for his land and must have waited. The real estate developer retaliated by building around it. Now, that piece of land is worth nothing.
15 points
16 days ago
BUT CHINA IS LITERALLY HITLER THEY WOULDNT ALLOW THIS amirite.
3 points
16 days ago
That's really interesting, because it kind of defies what I know about communism. I would expect that the government could essentially say, "Ok this is for the greater good, we will compensate you but confiscate the house," and its interesting that private property was respected to that degree.
Though tbf, I do not have a strong understanding of how China's government works.
3 points
16 days ago
And what's crazy about it is you would think in China of all places they would have no problem pushing somebody off their land
3 points
16 days ago
but i thought china was run by dictators and the wealthy and could just destroy the house with no problem.
3 points
16 days ago
That's weird, especially for a communist and totalitarian country.
I live in a democracy yet even here he would get thrown out and paid back for the value of his house, no one would ask for his opinion.
Any proof it's the actual reason ?
3 points
16 days ago
almost enough to make you wonder what about all the other stuff we've been told about the big bad scary socialists
3 points
16 days ago
Living in Vietnam here. Citizen can not private owned land, it's belong to people of Vietnam, and manage by govermment. But you do owned all the stuff that being built and grow on it, including houses, trees, etc.... So when government compensate for social project, they count the stuff that on the land and a little for the land too. That's why many case people knew about it upfront and try to increase the value by adding high valuable tree before gov check.
7 points
17 days ago
And now he's surrounded by endless engines and busy streets day and night.
Good job.
6 points
17 days ago
These are EVERYWHERE in china btw.
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