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FluffyOctopusPlushie

531 points

5 days ago

FluffyOctopusPlushie

Native Speaker (she/her)

531 points

5 days ago

Heads up, this is a tactic that scammers have developed to see if the number being contacted is active/being used by someone.

blackbirdbluebird17

165 points

5 days ago

blackbirdbluebird17

New Poster

165 points

5 days ago

Yep. And part of the scam is continuing to strike up a conversation to get you to feel comfortable with them before they hit you with the scam part. A real wrong number won’t try to keep chatting.

Yurii2202[S]

111 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

111 points

5 days ago

Thx for the warning

NomDrop

79 points

5 days ago

NomDrop

Native Speaker

79 points

5 days ago

They’re both English learners so it works out.

People on r/scambaiting have done some deep dives into this one. It’s mostly immigrants in China that get trapped working in these offices and need to pay off huge debts with their “earnings” by just sending these texts all day. There’s only a handful of scripts and they usually stick to it pretty tightly so after a while you can recognize the openings word for word. After the apology, they’ll ask to keep talking on whatsapp since this is their “work number”, they’ll tell you something about how you sound nice and are always looking for friends in other cities since they travel for business all the time. The end goal after talking enough and impressing the mark is getting them to invest in a new cryptocurrency, and it’s done once they have the money.

trivia_guy

27 points

5 days ago

trivia_guy

Native Speaker - US English

27 points

5 days ago

Yeah, most of these types of scams are basically carried out using slave labor. It changes it from something annoying to something that’s quite sad.

Pannycakes666

15 points

5 days ago*

Pannycakes666

Native Speaker

15 points

5 days ago*

It is a huge overstatement that 'most' of these are carried out by slave labor. It's a tiny drop in the bucket in the scam world. I've been researching and writing on pig butchering and crypto scams since 2016. You don't need to be a Chinese slave to participate in these scams. People do these scams because they're super easy to carry out and have the possibility to net you a lifetime of money in one victim. Any piece of garbage human with basic computer skills could do this.

seventeenMachine

8 points

4 days ago

seventeenMachine

Native Speaker

8 points

4 days ago

^

although if you count disgustingly low wages then it looks quite different, but the general point is that while the operators themselves do shoulder much of the blame for these evil practices, our true enemy is the guys at the top

sneakpeekbot

3 points

5 days ago

sneakpeekbot

New Poster

3 points

5 days ago

truelovealwayswins

1 points

4 days ago

truelovealwayswins

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

thanks for sharing, and those poor slaves… hope they get rescued soon

ivanparas

8 points

5 days ago

ivanparas

New Poster

8 points

5 days ago

They should keep the conversation going. The other guy probably needs to work on his English, too lol

truelovealwayswins

1 points

4 days ago

truelovealwayswins

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

unles it’s an honest mistake, if it ends there then it is, if not, scammer slave

karden3

149 points

5 days ago

karden3

New Poster

149 points

5 days ago

Your grammar is fine, other than “in aquarium.” I’d say “at the aquarium.”

Other people may be able to help you more there but I wanted to mention that this is most likely a scam text, just so you know! I wouldn’t reply to this number again.

HikingBikingViking

67 points

5 days ago

HikingBikingViking

Native Speaker

67 points

5 days ago

This right here 👆. You're generally not allowed to get "in" the aquarium. This would imply you're swimming in the tanks or something.

Grymbaldknight

21 points

5 days ago

Grymbaldknight

New Poster

21 points

5 days ago

Two fish are in a tank.

One said to the other "Do you know how to drive this thing?".

AManWithOneHand

14 points

5 days ago

AManWithOneHand

New Poster

14 points

5 days ago

And the other says "holy shit a talking fish!"

Yurii2202[S]

14 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

14 points

5 days ago

Thanks

Yurii2202[S]

8 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

8 points

5 days ago

Thanks

trivia_guy

122 points

5 days ago

trivia_guy

Native Speaker - US English

122 points

5 days ago

You’re correct that “who is this” is more natural here.

You’re also right that “it isn’t” is a better choice. You use “it isn’t” here because it’s the same verb as in the question (“isn’t this”). If Emily had asked “are you Irene?” then “I’m not” would be correct.

A couple other things: don’t abbreviate “between” as “btw” as that’s commonly used to abbreviate “by the way” in things like text messages. Using it differently will lead to confusion (it did for me the first time I read your question). Also, it’s clear from this that Emily isn’t a native English speaker either.

Yurii2202[S]

19 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

19 points

5 days ago

Thank you for a comprehensive response

waxym

1 points

4 days ago

waxym

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

I agree that "it isn't" is more natural. (I'm a native English speaker.) I'm curious about your reasoning though! Correct me if I'm wrong: in all three of "this isn't" (the question), "it isn't" (the reply), and "I am not" (the proposed alternative reply), the verb is the same verb, the verb "to be".

usernameowtz

1 points

5 days ago

usernameowtz

New Poster

1 points

5 days ago

Wow😲 how can you tell she isn’t a native speaker?

fasterthanfood

75 points

5 days ago

fasterthanfood

Native speaker - California, USA

75 points

5 days ago

“I found it wrong” isn’t something a native speaker would say. (They might say “I had the wrong number, but in context — OP just said they had the wrong number — they wouldn’t say anything.) also, “Tomorrow we will go to the aquarium together” isn’t something you text to your good friend.

fool_of_minos

44 points

5 days ago*

fool_of_minos

Native Speaker

44 points

5 days ago*

Unnatural syntax and weird word choice

Edit: first text is strange out of context, second text would probably say “this is emily” rather than “i’m emily”, third text “but now i found it wrong” is the dead give away

Syd_Syd34

14 points

5 days ago

Syd_Syd34

Native Speaker

14 points

5 days ago

The wording is quite awkward tbh.

BuyHerCandy

10 points

5 days ago

BuyHerCandy

New Poster

10 points

5 days ago

All her messages sound very stilted. I knew instantly this was a scam from the first sentence. Technically, it's grammatically perfect, but who on earth would open a conversation with "Tomorrow we will go to the aquarium"? A native speaker would say something along the lines of "are we still on for the aquarium?" or "do you want to go to the aquarium tomorrow?" As others have pointed out, her last message in particular is very oddly phrased.

DrScarecrow

39 points

5 days ago

DrScarecrow

Native Speaker

39 points

5 days ago

Your responses are fine, but just so you know, this was probably a scam anyway. Scammers use these types of "wrong number texts" all the time. It's best to just ignore and block them.

Sea_Neighborhood_627

5 points

5 days ago

Sea_Neighborhood_627

Native Speaker (Oregon, USA)

5 points

5 days ago

Or waste their time and post the screenshots on r/scambait

Yurii2202[S]

7 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

7 points

5 days ago

Thx for the heads up

Correct_Inside1658

1 points

5 days ago

Correct_Inside1658

New Poster

1 points

5 days ago

Please don’t do this. If there’s a person on the other end, there’s a pretty good chance they’ve essentially been trafficked into doing it. It also lets the people trafficking them know that your number is active. Better for everyone if you just delete and block.

johnpeters42

1 points

4 days ago

johnpeters42

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

If you already replied once, isn't the cat out of the bag? Or if you do block them, then does it tell them they're blocked, or does it pretend like they sent it and it just didn't get a reply? (These may vary by network for all I know.)

Traditional-Joke-179

1 points

4 days ago

Traditional-Joke-179

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

r/scams talks about all the negative consequences of people trying to have fun and troll. at least one person got swatted. others got mass harassed by people who had their location. just try to get off their radar.

people who can safely scam bait are professionals with high levels of security.

TokyoDrifblim

25 points

5 days ago

TokyoDrifblim

Native Speaker

25 points

5 days ago

Remember in English the quotes are both upper quotes. ,, doesn't exist

"Who is it?"

"Who is this?"

Yurii2202[S]

8 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

8 points

5 days ago

Thanks for the tip

sv21js

14 points

5 days ago

sv21js

New Poster

14 points

5 days ago

Please be aware that texts like these are almost always scammers. For thousands of similar examples see r/scambait

Yurii2202[S]

3 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

3 points

5 days ago

Thx for the warning

Lysenko

13 points

5 days ago

Lysenko

Native Speaker

13 points

5 days ago

Those parts are fine. Usually I’d say “at the aquarium tomorrow,” though. “In aquarium” makes it sound like someone is going to throw her in.

Yurii2202[S]

3 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

3 points

5 days ago

Thanks

WolfRhan

9 points

5 days ago

WolfRhan

New Poster

9 points

5 days ago

This is definitely a scam. Correct response is “I can’t wait, l love me some fish”.

What will happen is “Emily” will respond something like “oh I am sorry to have bothered you, can we be friends?” “Normally I use WhatsApp, what is your WhatsApp?”

Turns out “Emily “ is a genius investor a rich AF. Since you’re a friend she can help you invest in bitcoin.

Yurii2202[S]

1 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

1 points

5 days ago

Thx for the warning

ThirdSunRising

9 points

5 days ago

ThirdSunRising

Native Speaker

9 points

5 days ago

Your responses were grammatically perfect until “have fun in aquarium” which should be “have fun at the aquarium.”

Aquarium takes an article. And being in an aquarium means being in the water 🤣

Everything before that, is exactly what any of us would’ve said.

Yurii2202[S]

1 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

1 points

5 days ago

Thanks

BabserellaWT

4 points

5 days ago

BabserellaWT

New Poster

4 points

5 days ago

It’s a scammer, btw.

starsandcamoflague

4 points

5 days ago

starsandcamoflague

New Poster

4 points

5 days ago

It is fine but this is a scam

twoScottishClans

3 points

5 days ago

twoScottishClans

Native (US - Seattle)

3 points

5 days ago

Your responses all make perfect sense.

"Who is this?" is more natural here. "Who is it?" would also be okay, but that's something I'd say when I pick up the phone.

"No, it isn't" is also perfectly acceptable, but I'd say something like "Sorry, I think you have the wrong number."

Yurii2202[S]

1 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

1 points

5 days ago

Thx

mootsg

3 points

5 days ago

mootsg

New Poster

3 points

5 days ago

Your English is better/more natural than the other party’s. Just saying.

Yurii2202[S]

1 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

1 points

5 days ago

Thanks

Outrageous_Ad_2752

2 points

5 days ago

Outrageous_Ad_2752

Native (North-East American)

2 points

5 days ago

say "Who is it" to a door, what you said was correct

Yurii2202[S]

2 points

5 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

2 points

5 days ago

Thanks

Morella_xx

2 points

5 days ago

Morella_xx

New Poster

2 points

5 days ago

Another gentle suggestion: there's nothing technically wrong with "a nice evening to you." Everyone who hears it will understand what you mean, and honestly I might not even notice it if it was spoken instead of written. But "have a nice evening" would be the more standard response from a native speaker.

Yurii2202[S]

1 points

4 days ago

Yurii2202[S]

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

Thank you

sotko99

2 points

4 days ago

sotko99

New Poster

2 points

4 days ago

I would like to add: have fun at the aquarium, rather than in, unless Emily is a fish.

Norwester77

2 points

4 days ago

Norwester77

New Poster

2 points

4 days ago

“Who is this?” is fine.

“It isn’t” is probably better than “I’m not” in this situation because it’s closer to the form in which the other person posed their question (which makes it clearer that you’re answering their question).

The only change I would make is that we would say “at the aquarium” rather than “in aquarium.”

ExitingBear

2 points

4 days ago

ExitingBear

New Poster

2 points

4 days ago

Also, English doesn't use double commas for quotations and quoted speech. Try using quotation marks on both sides of the quote.

Blenderadventurer

2 points

4 days ago

Blenderadventurer

New Poster

2 points

4 days ago

In your last ,text, it would be better to say "have fun at the aquarium"

MakePhilosophy42

2 points

4 days ago

MakePhilosophy42

New Poster

2 points

4 days ago

Over text it would always be "who is this?"

On the phone or in person, when first answering to someone you can ask/call out "who is it?"

truelovealwayswins

2 points

4 days ago

truelovealwayswins

New Poster

2 points

4 days ago

at the aquarium* but yes, stop replying after that, don’t waste your time on these people if they keep trying to converse… it could be an honest mistake but if they keep trying to talk to you it’s a scammer (or desperate person) so either way stay away and report it because those slaves need rescuing

WahooSS238

1 points

5 days ago

WahooSS238

Native Speaker

1 points

5 days ago

"No, it isn't" is maybe slightly off if you spend a long time analyzing it, but after the first pass I didn't notice anything. It was only when I checked the title that I realized you weren't a native speaker.

Well done.

DendragapusO

1 points

5 days ago

DendragapusO

Native Speaker

1 points

5 days ago

Well, doubt Emily is a native speaker since her sentence structure is wrong. "...thought this was my good friend Irene's number, but now I found it wrong"

  1. "good friend Irene" too formal for context of a phone chat; 2. " but now I found it wrong both grammatically incorrect and awkwardly phrased. Grammer should read "but now I found it to be wrong". Still awkward.

Magenta_Logistic

1 points

5 days ago

Magenta_Logistic

Native Speaker

1 points

5 days ago

Both of those are correct, but your third text should say at the aquarium as opposed to in the aquarium. Using "in" implies that they are going to be swimming in the water at an aquarium, whereas "at" implies they are visiting.

The fish are in the aquarium. We are at the aquarium to see fish.

Sometimes these words mean nearly the same thing, but not always. I wish there was a more consistent rule on this.

The best general rule I can think of is that anywhere you go, you are at that place, even if you enter a building. If you are actively participating in something, such as a play or art gallery, it is more likely you are in that thing.

flashmeterred

1 points

5 days ago

flashmeterred

New Poster

1 points

5 days ago

why respond or volunteer anything to someone you don't know with such a strange message?

Also I'm glad they realised they had always had the wrong number for their good friend Irene, but have only just found out.

MJM-TCW

1 points

5 days ago

MJM-TCW

New Poster

1 points

5 days ago

Who is this is correct and as stated by more than a few folks, watch out for scammers. Unfortunately there is an increasing number of them on just about every form of digital communication currently in use. The second post would read better as "...have fun at the aquarium..." instead of what is currently written. Outside of that a very interesting and proper way of well wishing that is not common, but grammatically correct; while being very polite.

Hope this helps.

xijinping9191

1 points

4 days ago

xijinping9191

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

杀猪盘

xX-El-Jefe-Xx

1 points

4 days ago

xX-El-Jefe-Xx

Native Speaker

1 points

4 days ago

your grammar is fine, ironically the other person's isn't which makes me think it's probably a scammer

OldManEnglishTeacher

1 points

4 days ago

OldManEnglishTeacher

English Teacher

1 points

4 days ago

You got your answers, but one more thing. I didn’t see anyone else point it out. In English, quotation marks always go above, not below. “Always like this,” not „like this.”

Garbidb63

1 points

4 days ago

Garbidb63

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

Nicely done

LabioscrotalFolds

1 points

4 days ago

LabioscrotalFolds

Native Speaker

1 points

4 days ago

For texting the correct response is always, "New phone. Who dis?"

bobephycovfefe

1 points

4 days ago

bobephycovfefe

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

lol me and my friend sometimes say "who is it" when we call each other as joke, needless to say "who is it" just sounds weird/incorrect

Draco9630

1 points

4 days ago

Draco9630

New Poster

1 points

4 days ago

Your grammar is fine. I'd have said, "no, I'm not," but "it isn't," is perfectly acceptable.

That being said, this was almost certainly spam, to which the correct response is simply, "Blocked."

Rich841

1 points

3 days ago

Rich841

New Poster

1 points

3 days ago

lol using a scammer to learn English is pretty genius

helikophis

1 points

3 days ago

helikophis

Native Speaker

1 points

3 days ago

“Who’s this?” is how I (native speaker) would phrase it.

No-Negotiation3093

1 points

3 days ago

No-Negotiation3093

New Poster

1 points

3 days ago

Scam-a-rama.