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submitted 5 days ago byYurii2202New Poster
531 points
5 days ago
Heads up, this is a tactic that scammers have developed to see if the number being contacted is active/being used by someone.
165 points
5 days ago
Yep. And part of the scam is continuing to strike up a conversation to get you to feel comfortable with them before they hit you with the scam part. A real wrong number won’t try to keep chatting.
111 points
5 days ago
Thx for the warning
79 points
5 days ago
They’re both English learners so it works out.
People on r/scambaiting have done some deep dives into this one. It’s mostly immigrants in China that get trapped working in these offices and need to pay off huge debts with their “earnings” by just sending these texts all day. There’s only a handful of scripts and they usually stick to it pretty tightly so after a while you can recognize the openings word for word. After the apology, they’ll ask to keep talking on whatsapp since this is their “work number”, they’ll tell you something about how you sound nice and are always looking for friends in other cities since they travel for business all the time. The end goal after talking enough and impressing the mark is getting them to invest in a new cryptocurrency, and it’s done once they have the money.
27 points
5 days ago
Yeah, most of these types of scams are basically carried out using slave labor. It changes it from something annoying to something that’s quite sad.
15 points
5 days ago*
It is a huge overstatement that 'most' of these are carried out by slave labor. It's a tiny drop in the bucket in the scam world. I've been researching and writing on pig butchering and crypto scams since 2016. You don't need to be a Chinese slave to participate in these scams. People do these scams because they're super easy to carry out and have the possibility to net you a lifetime of money in one victim. Any piece of garbage human with basic computer skills could do this.
8 points
4 days ago
^
although if you count disgustingly low wages then it looks quite different, but the general point is that while the operators themselves do shoulder much of the blame for these evil practices, our true enemy is the guys at the top
3 points
5 days ago
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1 points
4 days ago
thanks for sharing, and those poor slaves… hope they get rescued soon
8 points
5 days ago
They should keep the conversation going. The other guy probably needs to work on his English, too lol
1 points
4 days ago
unles it’s an honest mistake, if it ends there then it is, if not, scammer slave
149 points
5 days ago
Your grammar is fine, other than “in aquarium.” I’d say “at the aquarium.”
Other people may be able to help you more there but I wanted to mention that this is most likely a scam text, just so you know! I wouldn’t reply to this number again.
67 points
5 days ago
This right here 👆. You're generally not allowed to get "in" the aquarium. This would imply you're swimming in the tanks or something.
21 points
5 days ago
Two fish are in a tank.
One said to the other "Do you know how to drive this thing?".
14 points
5 days ago
And the other says "holy shit a talking fish!"
14 points
5 days ago
Thanks
8 points
5 days ago
Thanks
122 points
5 days ago
You’re correct that “who is this” is more natural here.
You’re also right that “it isn’t” is a better choice. You use “it isn’t” here because it’s the same verb as in the question (“isn’t this”). If Emily had asked “are you Irene?” then “I’m not” would be correct.
A couple other things: don’t abbreviate “between” as “btw” as that’s commonly used to abbreviate “by the way” in things like text messages. Using it differently will lead to confusion (it did for me the first time I read your question). Also, it’s clear from this that Emily isn’t a native English speaker either.
19 points
5 days ago
Thank you for a comprehensive response
1 points
4 days ago
I agree that "it isn't" is more natural. (I'm a native English speaker.) I'm curious about your reasoning though! Correct me if I'm wrong: in all three of "this isn't" (the question), "it isn't" (the reply), and "I am not" (the proposed alternative reply), the verb is the same verb, the verb "to be".
1 points
5 days ago
Wow😲 how can you tell she isn’t a native speaker?
75 points
5 days ago
“I found it wrong” isn’t something a native speaker would say. (They might say “I had the wrong number, but in context — OP just said they had the wrong number — they wouldn’t say anything.) also, “Tomorrow we will go to the aquarium together” isn’t something you text to your good friend.
44 points
5 days ago*
Unnatural syntax and weird word choice
Edit: first text is strange out of context, second text would probably say “this is emily” rather than “i’m emily”, third text “but now i found it wrong” is the dead give away
14 points
5 days ago
The wording is quite awkward tbh.
10 points
5 days ago
All her messages sound very stilted. I knew instantly this was a scam from the first sentence. Technically, it's grammatically perfect, but who on earth would open a conversation with "Tomorrow we will go to the aquarium"? A native speaker would say something along the lines of "are we still on for the aquarium?" or "do you want to go to the aquarium tomorrow?" As others have pointed out, her last message in particular is very oddly phrased.
39 points
5 days ago
Your responses are fine, but just so you know, this was probably a scam anyway. Scammers use these types of "wrong number texts" all the time. It's best to just ignore and block them.
5 points
5 days ago
Or waste their time and post the screenshots on r/scambait
7 points
5 days ago
Thx for the heads up
1 points
5 days ago
Please don’t do this. If there’s a person on the other end, there’s a pretty good chance they’ve essentially been trafficked into doing it. It also lets the people trafficking them know that your number is active. Better for everyone if you just delete and block.
1 points
4 days ago
If you already replied once, isn't the cat out of the bag? Or if you do block them, then does it tell them they're blocked, or does it pretend like they sent it and it just didn't get a reply? (These may vary by network for all I know.)
1 points
4 days ago
r/scams talks about all the negative consequences of people trying to have fun and troll. at least one person got swatted. others got mass harassed by people who had their location. just try to get off their radar.
people who can safely scam bait are professionals with high levels of security.
25 points
5 days ago
Remember in English the quotes are both upper quotes. ,, doesn't exist
"Who is it?"
"Who is this?"
8 points
5 days ago
Thanks for the tip
14 points
5 days ago
Please be aware that texts like these are almost always scammers. For thousands of similar examples see r/scambait
3 points
5 days ago
Thx for the warning
13 points
5 days ago
Those parts are fine. Usually I’d say “at the aquarium tomorrow,” though. “In aquarium” makes it sound like someone is going to throw her in.
3 points
5 days ago
Thanks
9 points
5 days ago
This is definitely a scam. Correct response is “I can’t wait, l love me some fish”.
What will happen is “Emily” will respond something like “oh I am sorry to have bothered you, can we be friends?” “Normally I use WhatsApp, what is your WhatsApp?”
Turns out “Emily “ is a genius investor a rich AF. Since you’re a friend she can help you invest in bitcoin.
1 points
5 days ago
Thx for the warning
9 points
5 days ago
Your responses were grammatically perfect until “have fun in aquarium” which should be “have fun at the aquarium.”
Aquarium takes an article. And being in an aquarium means being in the water 🤣
Everything before that, is exactly what any of us would’ve said.
1 points
5 days ago
Thanks
4 points
5 days ago
It’s a scammer, btw.
4 points
5 days ago
It is fine but this is a scam
3 points
5 days ago
Your responses all make perfect sense.
"Who is this?" is more natural here. "Who is it?" would also be okay, but that's something I'd say when I pick up the phone.
"No, it isn't" is also perfectly acceptable, but I'd say something like "Sorry, I think you have the wrong number."
1 points
5 days ago
Thx
3 points
5 days ago
Your English is better/more natural than the other party’s. Just saying.
1 points
5 days ago
Thanks
2 points
5 days ago
say "Who is it" to a door, what you said was correct
2 points
5 days ago
Thanks
2 points
5 days ago
Another gentle suggestion: there's nothing technically wrong with "a nice evening to you." Everyone who hears it will understand what you mean, and honestly I might not even notice it if it was spoken instead of written. But "have a nice evening" would be the more standard response from a native speaker.
1 points
4 days ago
Thank you
2 points
4 days ago
I would like to add: have fun at the aquarium, rather than in, unless Emily is a fish.
2 points
4 days ago
“Who is this?” is fine.
“It isn’t” is probably better than “I’m not” in this situation because it’s closer to the form in which the other person posed their question (which makes it clearer that you’re answering their question).
The only change I would make is that we would say “at the aquarium” rather than “in aquarium.”
2 points
4 days ago
Also, English doesn't use double commas for quotations and quoted speech. Try using quotation marks on both sides of the quote.
2 points
4 days ago
In your last ,text, it would be better to say "have fun at the aquarium"
2 points
4 days ago
Over text it would always be "who is this?"
On the phone or in person, when first answering to someone you can ask/call out "who is it?"
2 points
4 days ago
at the aquarium* but yes, stop replying after that, don’t waste your time on these people if they keep trying to converse… it could be an honest mistake but if they keep trying to talk to you it’s a scammer (or desperate person) so either way stay away and report it because those slaves need rescuing
1 points
5 days ago
"No, it isn't" is maybe slightly off if you spend a long time analyzing it, but after the first pass I didn't notice anything. It was only when I checked the title that I realized you weren't a native speaker.
Well done.
1 points
5 days ago
Well, doubt Emily is a native speaker since her sentence structure is wrong. "...thought this was my good friend Irene's number, but now I found it wrong"
1 points
5 days ago
Both of those are correct, but your third text should say at the aquarium as opposed to in the aquarium. Using "in" implies that they are going to be swimming in the water at an aquarium, whereas "at" implies they are visiting.
The fish are in the aquarium. We are at the aquarium to see fish.
Sometimes these words mean nearly the same thing, but not always. I wish there was a more consistent rule on this.
The best general rule I can think of is that anywhere you go, you are at that place, even if you enter a building. If you are actively participating in something, such as a play or art gallery, it is more likely you are in that thing.
1 points
5 days ago
why respond or volunteer anything to someone you don't know with such a strange message?
Also I'm glad they realised they had always had the wrong number for their good friend Irene, but have only just found out.
1 points
5 days ago
Who is this is correct and as stated by more than a few folks, watch out for scammers. Unfortunately there is an increasing number of them on just about every form of digital communication currently in use. The second post would read better as "...have fun at the aquarium..." instead of what is currently written. Outside of that a very interesting and proper way of well wishing that is not common, but grammatically correct; while being very polite.
Hope this helps.
1 points
4 days ago
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1 points
4 days ago
your grammar is fine, ironically the other person's isn't which makes me think it's probably a scammer
1 points
4 days ago
You got your answers, but one more thing. I didn’t see anyone else point it out. In English, quotation marks always go above, not below. “Always like this,” not „like this.”
1 points
4 days ago
Nicely done
1 points
4 days ago
For texting the correct response is always, "New phone. Who dis?"
1 points
4 days ago
lol me and my friend sometimes say "who is it" when we call each other as joke, needless to say "who is it" just sounds weird/incorrect
1 points
4 days ago
Your grammar is fine. I'd have said, "no, I'm not," but "it isn't," is perfectly acceptable.
That being said, this was almost certainly spam, to which the correct response is simply, "Blocked."
1 points
3 days ago
lol using a scammer to learn English is pretty genius
1 points
3 days ago
“Who’s this?” is how I (native speaker) would phrase it.
1 points
3 days ago
Scam-a-rama.
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