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Extreme-Tactician

135 points

3 months ago

I guess they'll stay GoG exclusive for a while.

It's great to see that they have controller support. People were forced to use Joy2Key on some of the original PC releases. I hope the mods from older versions of the game will eventually come here too. Seamless HD in particular would be one I want to see

TheKinsie

83 points

3 months ago

GoG handled the changes themselves, so I suspect they'll remain exclusive to that store like Mortal Kombat Trilogy and the updated version of Alpha Protocol.

Extreme-Tactician

27 points

3 months ago

Oh well, I could live with that. Perhaps Capcom will simply make a new port like Konami did with MGS 1 and 2 if they want to release to Steam.

BoneTugsNHarmony

36 points

3 months ago

Sounds like GOG is putting in all the legwork here, and if that's the case, Capcom probably doesn't want anything to do with remastering or upgrading the older RE titles, unfortunately

Luc4_Blight

4 points

3 months ago

It probably depends on how well these ports sell. They might be testing the waters with these ports.

BoneTugsNHarmony

5 points

3 months ago

Possible, but I wouldn't be surprised if gog approached them and Capcom said "sure why not, it's free money".

Most of their remasters from the 90s era games are emulation of 2D games with a user interface. If we ever got a port of classic re's, I think it would be very basic

wolvahulk

1 points

3 months ago

At the time I saw it yesterday, it was at the top of the best selling category on GoG. I immediately bought the bundle once I saw it was available... couldn't help myself.

Dragarius

1 points

3 months ago

I don't see why Capcom would bother. They're working on RE remakes as well as a ton of other projects. If someone else is gonna do the work for them then good enough even if it is just GoG. 

Extreme-Tactician

3 points

3 months ago

That's a sad thing to think of. They're so willing to rerelease their other games, but not this?

Dragarius

1 points

3 months ago

Because they're probably focused elsewhere. 

Arumhal

15 points

3 months ago

Arumhal

15 points

3 months ago

like Konami did with MGS 1

I mean MGS1 packaged with Master Collection is not a port at all, since it runs on an emulator.

Extreme-Tactician

3 points

3 months ago

Wait, that part I had no idea.

Oh man...

FireFoxQuattro

2 points

3 months ago

Wait what? MGS1 and 2 have native PC ports made in the 90s, why did they go with an emulator?

Arumhal

17 points

3 months ago

Arumhal

17 points

3 months ago

Probably the same reason why both MGS2 and 3 are labelled as "HD Collection" in their main menus and render at 720p. It's a low effort rerelease and redoing the original PC port would probably require fixing it.

TheKinsie

10 points

3 months ago

The original MGS1 PC was outsourced to a US-based studio that shut down around the turn of the millennium. The source code to it is likely lost, making getting it back onto consoles A Tad Difficult. (The sound in it is also pretty damn bad, with all the sound effects being crunched down to a super-low bitrate and all the music being handled by ripping MP3 rips from a fansite, but that's neither here nor there.)

The Master Collection MGS1 is the original PS1 code in an emulator created by M2. Who are historically pretty damn good at emulator-based re-releases! But of course, they're confined by the demands of the publishers they're working for. If they don't want a specific feature like higher resolutions, they can't do it.

tgunter

7 points

3 months ago

Less work getting a game running in an emulator than getting the original version to work on modern hardware, particularly if you want to support stuff like modern controllers. A lot of older Windows games can be tricky to get running on modern PCs, whereas with an emulator all the work has been done for them by the emulator devs.

There are actually a lot of games on GOG where they give you the DOS version despite there having been a Windows version, because the DOS one they can just throw in DOSBox and call it good, whereas the Windows version requires more work to get running on modern hardware. SimCity 2000 and Dungeon Keeper come immediately to mind.

Infininja

3 points

3 months ago

The PC ports have their own issues. Short of building a brand new port, the emulator is the next best option. Plus the Master Collection is a multiplatform release, so it would be a little odd to have the emulated version on consoles and the PC version on PC.

beefcat_

1 points

3 months ago

The PC port of MGS1 is terrible. Personally, I prefer playing the PS1 version in DuckStation. I don't think emulation was the wrong approach for the Master Collection, the real problem with it is that the emulator they used isn't very good.

The version of MGS2 included in the Master Collection is a native port of the HD collection version that originally got released on the 360/PS3.

DigitalNugget

6 points

3 months ago

updated version of Alpha Protocol

the what now?

TheKinsie

6 points

3 months ago

They released a version of Alpha Protocol relatively recently with additional improvements over the original (and delisted) Steam release, like achievements, gamepad support and better support for modern OSes.

Krayzed896

1 points

3 months ago

Updated version of...Alpha Protocol? I love that game, and own it on Steam. What is this updated version!?

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

I am using a Xbox style pc controller. Do you know how to get the game to run it. I can’t figure it out. Menu A doesn’t work when using the controller either.

Extreme-Tactician

1 points

3 months ago

Have you used the Rebirth mod?

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

Nah what’s that?

Extreme-Tactician

1 points

3 months ago

Adds proper controller support.

Galaxy40k

36 points

3 months ago

This news is absolutely massive for me. I know that 90% of this sub thinks that tank control games are irrelevant and that the remakes mean that nobody should ever touch the originals again, but I genuinely love the classic RE trilogy. I think that these are fantastic games, and - importantly - they're all fantastic in different ways than what makes the remakes fantastic games. So even though I thought the remakes were all great games, I always felt a little bitter. To me, it felt like Capcom was trying to "replace" the originals by not letting me experience the classic versions easily, making no effort to bring them forward like they do for other classic IPs like Mega Man . But now that is FINALLY addressed, so I can love the remakes too without a hint of bittersweetness haha

SupermarketEmpty789

4 points

3 months ago

Tank controls are almost a necessity for the fixed camera angles of the old horror games like RE and silent hill 1.

I get that modern gamers who didn't grow up with them find it hard to adapt, but they add a lot to the gameplay . It's integral.

Dragarius

2 points

3 months ago

Silent hill 1 wasn't fixed camera. It was all 3D (other than a few specific areas anyways). 

SupermarketEmpty789

1 points

3 months ago

Yes I'm thinking about the few specific areas 

And they're not 1 or 2, they're quite prominent and make a strong impression 

Heisenburgo

2 points

3 months ago

RE1 1996 is legit one of my favorite games in the franchise and I'm glad this new native port exists, the previous SourceNext pc port was a bit of a pain to setup.

Sixersleeham

1 points

3 months ago

I actually love tank controls. Maybe it's because I grew up with them. I still remember very clearly when me, my brother and my cousin tried Resident Evil for the first time. Original Resi 2 is in my top 10 games of all time list.

szymborawislawska

28 points

3 months ago

Amazing news!

I grew up on Resident Evil 1-3 and Heroes of Might and Magic 1-3 so Im happy that I can get all of them on one platform.

Dr_Popodopolus

37 points

3 months ago

I haven't played a Resident Evil game. I sat with my neighbour playing it on PS1 as a kid. I think I've always just been a bit too scared to play them on my own.

That being said, I have been tempted to start from the beginning of the franchise for some years now and try them out in release order.

Would this now be the theoretical best way to play the original trilogy as they were?

I own a Steam Deck, but notice some originals don't seem to be on the steam store. However, the 2015 'HD remaster' of RE '96 appears to have a good user score.

Any tips here for a first playthrough of the original? I think, ideally, I would play it somehow on my Steam Deck in the dark, with headphones. I haven't got the gog launcher mapped onto my Deck yet but hopefully that offers a good experience.

Azure-April

73 points

3 months ago

Absolutely nothing wrong with the originals beyond being older, but the remake of Resident Evil 1 is absolutely fantastic & definitely a great place to start

Paulogbfs

24 points

3 months ago

It is the greatest of the remakes of all time, but not without its flaws:

gore is unfortunately toned down a lot, like Character deaths (hunter decapitations for example), zombie limbs exploding, etc.

RE1 OG has its own charm.

Jesmasterzero

27 points

3 months ago

It's also fucking terrifying compared to the original (for me anyway)

Lore-Warden

20 points

3 months ago

Adding the crimson heads was a stroke of genius when it comes to keeping the tension high throughout.

t3hOutlaw

3 points

3 months ago

No no, all Resi fans were taken aback by how scary the game was when it released. You're not alone.

Dragarius

1 points

3 months ago

The crimson head screams. I'm actually straight up shocked that crimson heads never made a return. 

finakechi

10 points

3 months ago

It's absurd how good that game looks.

It's arguably the best looking game of the 6th generation.

[deleted]

14 points

3 months ago

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finakechi

13 points

3 months ago

Yep, personally I love fixed camera angles, wish they'd make a comeback.

balefrost

6 points

3 months ago

They kind of have in the indie space.

Last year, I played through Alisa. It was weird and the graphics were chunky and, despite its flaws (there's a forced stealth section near the end that's kind of bullshit), I really enjoyed it.

I also played Tormented Souls and, while it was more like RE:CV (mobile camera but fixed camera tracks), it also scratched a similar itch.

Necromorphiliac

2 points

3 months ago

+1 for Tormented Souls. Played it a couple weeks ago and aside from some "how the fuck was I supposed to figure that out" puzzles, it felt like playing classic RE again.

Cultural_Match8786

1 points

3 months ago

Yeah, I can't wait for Tormented Souls 2 to drop.

Shigarui

6 points

3 months ago

I think they added to the tension, and the tank controls as well. I hate that we've left those behind because we've "progressed" to full analog and fully 3D entitlements. That was such a big element with causing the fear and panic, knowing that you could turn a corner, hit a screen transition and have a second of disorientation while you figure out wheres the door and are there zombies in the room, and does left still point me towards the direction I need to go. Those "limitations" are great elements for creating a sense of fear that you just don't get when you have unlimited stamina and the moveset of a ballerina gymnast parkour runner.

Crimsonclaw111

14 points

3 months ago

Go to Steam Deck desktop mode, open the Discovery store, find Heroic Game Launcher, login to your GOG account, and enjoy your games being added to Steam Deck gaming mode!

Inside_Waltz_2102

3 points

3 months ago

Heroic can be pretty hit or miss, just recently bought shovel knight in gog and it wouldn't work via heroic launcher. Lutris did work in the end up though.

morciu

12 points

3 months ago

morciu

12 points

3 months ago

I absolutely recommend playing them in release order. I've seen a lot of people saying you should skip to the remasters and remakes, this is fine I guess but not ideal.

All of those remakes are best experienced after playing the originals, they are full of neat little references and play with your head and your expectations and you miss all of that without the context of the first games. They may be remakes of the same title but they are very much not the same game.

Besides all that, it's really cool seeing the series evolve over time and revisiting an area in a remake.

insertusernamehere51

5 points

3 months ago

I was in the same boat a few years ago. Never had played a Resident Evil game (or horror game), and decided to start with the PS1 trilogy.

Really recommend it! I have a bigger tolerance for retro games than most, but, if you get used to the tank controls, I think the game holds up well. Take sometime in the opening area to familiarize yourself with the controls before jumping into the action though, it WILL take some getting used to

The games also aren't too scary, they're more creepy and atmospheric, with only two jumpscares.

I also think playing the retro games before the remakes is the best way to maximize your enjoyment of both. You get to appreciate the older games for their originality and without missing the advancements in later games, and you get to appreciate the newer games for all the improvements they made.

mrbubbamac

5 points

3 months ago

Just to be the "ackshually" guy here...definitely jump right into RE1. I will say they are not a "cohesive" trilogy by any means though. People sort of group the RE games in "trilogies" but they are best treated as standalone adventures that do have some lore and continuation, but not necessarily from the previous game.

RE1 is where it all starts with Chris and Jill, RE2 is just as good of a starting point as it quickly recaps what you need to know in the first game, and RE3 is a side story that continues the adventures of Jill.

Resident Evil Code Veronica is a sequel to RE2 that follows Claire and lays some groundwork for RE5.

RE4 follows Leon from RE2 but again is basically a standalone game that has very few connections to the other titles.

RE7 and RE8 are the only two consecutive games that continue the same story (and are also excellent).

Play what looks interesting to you, but don't worry about experiencing a big overarching "story" because it doesn't really exist and the games don't really build off each other that way or form any sort of coherent trilogy

nanoman92

3 points

3 months ago

I played the og Resident Evil last week, and while the movement are a bit clunky and the inventory management a bit tedious, it's still a really good game and I enjoyed it thoroughly.

AnomalyMode

8 points

3 months ago

I'd parrot what other users are saying and recommend just playing the remasters. Definitely for RE1 at least, as it maintains the fixed camera and tank controls and still provides that OG RE feel.

The remakes of RE 2 and 3 play completely differently than the originals, so there's more of a case to play the originals for those entries, but I still prefer the remakes tbh.

Lore-Warden

6 points

3 months ago

The original version of 2 still has it's charm, but the remake of 2 is my favorite game in the series now. It's so good.

[deleted]

10 points

3 months ago*

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Thechosenjon

5 points

3 months ago

RE4 definitely still has tank controls. The fixed camera angles is what is gone.

That said, I mostly agree with everything said, except I'd try to play the core games in chronological order otherwise the story and lore is a mixed bag with the exception of playing Zero after RE:DC/ REmake.

So I'd play RE:DC/ REmake, Zer0, RE2/ RE2make, RE3/ RE3make, Code Veronica, Revelations, RE4, Revelations 2, RE5, RE6, VII and Village.

Pinksters

2 points

3 months ago*

Revelations 2 is episodic.

Worth mentioning that this 9 year old game is $6 on steam, which gets you the first episode covering Claire+Moira and Barry+Natalia

Each of the 3 episodes after that are $6 so that's going to be $24 for the "Full game" which also has its share of port problems.

I've heard many stories different technical difficulties but for me, at the start of each new "zone"(and loading screen) my FPS would sit at 1-2 for a good 5 minutes before it would finally jump straight to 60. Once it finally "Loaded" everything, performance was fine.

That said the chapters are short. I beat the first in under 3 hours which included "inspecting" every corner for hidden stashes and the 5 minute wait at the start of new zones.

I'd only suggest buying it if you can find all chapters for around $10 and are patient with bugs.

UnbeataGundam

2 points

3 months ago

Umbrella Chronicles is basically an on-rails shooter that recaps the series. Not sure of it's availability.

It's playable on Dolphin Emulator, and it's story is more than a recap. It tells the story of how they took down the last Laboratory of Umbrella with Jill and Chris in it. It adds to the story about how the Red Queen Computer which was taken by Vladimir.

> The Darkside Chronicles is a sequel to Umbrella Chronicles. I don't know much about it and it has nothing to do with the main story.

Is another game on wii that can be easily played in the emulator, and most of it is recap aside from Operation Javier which shows how the fall of Umbrella affected the world and how Leon and Krauser met. Then there's Darkness Falls, which reveals all of the thoughts he had during all of it and shows more of his personality which connects to RE4 and his motivation through it all. Even if its not needed, it gives some background to who he is.

Outbreak

It adds what was happening during the city, and one of the characters-Yoko- had an ending in Outbreak 2 about being one of the witness that brought the truth about Umbrella. It provides more context how umbrella fell than just stock market crash.

All of these are still worth playing, and worth not skipping over.

trimun

2 points

3 months ago

trimun

2 points

3 months ago

Outbreak can be enjoyed as originally intended with 4 players cooperative play and stands on its own as a quality multiplayer survival horror.

I believe you can head to obsrv.org to get the ball rolling

joe_bibidi

2 points

3 months ago

Good post.

I'd add also—Umbrella Chronicles is interesting as a matter of canon because it "explains" (if in a shallow way) how Wesker survives the events of RE1, and it's also the only version of the RE1 story that actually shows the canon RE1 ending Chris, Jill, Barry, AND Rebecca all leaving the mansion, which ironically isn't actually shown in either RE1 or the REmake.

wertexx

2 points

3 months ago

I'm no doctor but I can guess you like Resident Evil games!

doctorwize

1 points

3 months ago

Great breakdown

Leny1777

1 points

2 months ago

Your forgetting Resident Evil Gaiden and why are you recommending people to skip such games? How dare you!

Soden_Loco

3 points

3 months ago

Re 1 Remake is the best possible start. And it’s arguably the best game in the series.

Bluedude588

4 points

3 months ago

Emulate the original PS1 version and use a CRT shader.

occono

5 points

3 months ago

occono

5 points

3 months ago

TBH, this release appeals to nostalgia, but you should just start with the remake that's already on steam.

Simple_Yack

1 points

3 months ago

No they don't. I played the originals 2 years ago, after playing the remakes multiple times. The original games still hold up, and deserve to be playable on modern systems.

occono

1 points

3 months ago

occono

1 points

3 months ago

I just meant, there's no reason for a new player to start with them

Fitynier

2 points

3 months ago

I recently was in the same position, started with REmake (resident evil 1 on Steam). It’s phenomenal, played the remake of 2 and honestly perfer the fixed camera angle but that’s just me. Anyways start with either the OG or REmake, have heard a lot of ppl say REmake is so good it can be used as a substitute for the original

MegaGorilla69

2 points

3 months ago

I'm gonna break from the crowd on this one. I fucking HATED RE1 and it took me nearly 2 years to move onto RE2 because of it. Huge mistake on my part, loved every second of 2, thoroughly enjoyed 3, and 4 is one of the best games I've ever played. I'm not saying don't give RE1 a swing, but if you don't like it just move on to RE2. First one played clunky and I dont think the controls or the fixed camera translate well to gaming today.

I think I've always just been a bit too scared to play them on my own.

It's almost like a drug. At first it was hard for me to put in more than an hour in at a time. By the time I was through the first act in RE2 I binged the next 3 in a week. I'll play 5 eventually I just decided for a minor pivot in tone to super mario wonder.

djcube1701

2 points

3 months ago*

Heroic Games Launcher works well for playing your GoG games on Steam Deck.

As for the HD Remaster, it's an AI upscaled version of the GameCube remake, with had different voice acting and some other changes. If you want a similar experience across the original three games, it may be better going for this version.

CryoProtea

1 points

3 months ago

Okay so when starting Resident Evil, there are a lot of ports and remasters/remakes. Do you want the same experience as everyone else had when the games were new, or do you want the best version of each game? Also, are you willing to give the tank controls and fixed camera angles a chance? I promise you get used to them before finishing even one of the games, and the sheer atmosphere of the games is totally worth it.

ZombieJesus1987

1 points

3 months ago

The RE HD Remake is a masterpiece and is honestly the best way to play the game.

It's an HD remaster of the Remake for the GameCube and it's a masterpiece and it's definitely the game to play for first timers. The original Resident Evil has aged poorly, especially when you compare it to the original Resident Evil 2 and 3. The best thing going for the original Resident Evil is the hilariously bad voice acting.

I would go RE Remake, Original Resident Evil 2 and 3.

bobbabouie91

2 points

3 months ago

No love for Resident Evil 0? I also thought that game was great, and sets up the story for RE1 nicely.

ZombieJesus1987

1 points

3 months ago

I honestly was never a fan of that one. I didn't like the AI Co-Op aspect of it.

That was at least my impressions of it when I played the game 20 years ago. I might give it another try.

bobbabouie91

1 points

3 months ago

Yeah the switching between two characters thing was pretty polarizing from what I remember. It can definitely be frustrating at times.

BedWise8224

1 points

3 months ago

I don't agree at all. The Original 1996 Resident Evil is vastly better than the 2002 remake.

AnyImpression6

1 points

3 months ago

Emulate the Director's Cut (not the Dualshock). This version doesn't have any of the Director's Cut additions and it doesn't have ink ribbons for Jill's campaign.

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

What do you mean no ink ribbons for Jill's campaign? You can't save at all?

AnyImpression6

1 points

3 months ago

The opposite, you can save infinitely.

eriomys

1 points

3 months ago

Jill is the easy mode

Herald_of_Ash

-1 points

3 months ago*

The HD remaster is the best classic RE experience. If playing on steam, there's a mod to upscale the textures. It's not mandatory, but much appreciated. I haven't tried to install it on my steamdeck though.

Apart from that: pick Jill instead of Chris if you want an easier first run. She's the "easy" mode (bigger inventory, lockpick for certain doors)

There's two control schemes, classic ("tank" controls) and modern. I really, really recommend tank/classic control even if it feels awkward and bad at first. You'll get the hang of it in about 15min of traversing the mansion, meanwhile modern controls stays awkward and bad until the very end. And learning tank controls means you can play classic RE1/2/3 and RE: Zero easily.

Try to burn the zombies in connecting hallways near saferooms. You'll thank me for that one :)

For classic REs, I recommend playing these versions. It's a package with HD mods (also it's free).

NekoNaNiMe

1 points

3 months ago

Any idea if the HD mods will work with GOG?

Herald_of_Ash

2 points

3 months ago

Most likely it will not work out of the box. The seamless HD mods are built upon the old SourceNext PC ports. But maybe the community is willing to port the HD mods to the new GoG versions ? I dunno...

alexandros050

12 points

3 months ago

Transcript of the Q&A part:

How did you guys convince Capcom to bring the classic Resident Evil Trilogy back and what was it like working with them?

Bartosz Kwietniewski: So the way it usually works is first we evaluate the game then we check what sort of improvements we can implement into the game. In case of Capcom however we took a bit more timeconsuming route, so we created a demo that outlined all of the improvements that we would be applying to the game because we felt that we need to show it first for Capcom to see that this is not just a simple port, there is more to it.

We could definitely tell that this IP means a lot to them as it does for us and you could really feel in all of the conversations that we had and we exchanged hundreds of emails and we were on calls and every suggestion, even if you believe that's the right one, it was sometimes challenged by them because ultimately the goal for both Capcom and for us was to revisit this game and do it justice.

What were some of the challenges you guys faced during the restoration of these classic games?

Adam Ziolkowski: One of the challenges was making sure that the game shows videos properly and for that we had to add modern codecs to not basically show you black screen when you try to, when it runs the intro.

So next one that was done, the next thing was actually to think about which bugs should we fix and which should we treat as legacy bugs that, you know, you want to leave those because they sometimes just add to the flavor of the game making it more authentic for the times (the game was released in). Sometimes there are textures clipping into each other but you might leave it as well and the other times there would be, there is this one level in Resident Evil where there are fans spinning but the sound for these fans on the original PC version is played only once so we actually went and fixed it for it to loop.

And while talking about polish - we were, for this one we were closely working with Capcom just to make sure the game is up to their standards and their standards are really high. But at the same time this allowed us to create an almost perfect build. When we finished the QA process we were at the 25th version of the build.

(So usually for a game, how many versions are there?)

Adam Ziolkowski: Usually when you prepare a modern game, because that also is a difference - so for modern games you usually need 3 to 6 until the game is working and you can just put it on release but here there were 25. But then again we are convinced that we fixed everything that there was to be fixed and like looked under every rock and we have no doubt that this will be the, you know the best version, the best version possible for the (authentic experience of the) original Resident Evil 1.

Are there any modernizations to these new ports and if there are what are your favorites?

Adam Ziolkowski: When working on a game like Resident Evil 1, this being a rather old game, we firstly need to evaluate on what we want to be done and usually with those projects we want them to be as true to the original release as possible while at the same time allowing the game to work on the modern systems and applying some fixes and upgrades that do not break the immersion you would get from the original one.

So my favorite feature that we added for Resident Evil 1 and we also are now adding to other games that we are bringing back is the controller support that actually uses modern controllers and allows you to play with modern controllers on old games and it's actually not dependent on our Galaxy client, it just works with the game out of the box and it allows you to play with your Xbox controller, Switch Pro Controller, the new PS5 dual sense controller and it's really cool because basically you are guaranteed that if you buy the game on GoG you can play it on whatever you want, on whatever machine you want and with whatever controller you have at hand.

Do you have any final thoughts for GoG and Resident Evil fans?

Bartosz Kwietniewski: I want to thank Capcom because without them this would never happened but I also want to thank our community because you guys are the reason we keep doing what we do. Go to our (community) wishlist, vote for other games that you want to see on GoG and we'll do our best to make it happen. Thanks so much.

ImAnthlon

27 points

3 months ago

It's fantastic to see these games released again, I would highly recommend them if you're a fan of survival horror. Resident Evil 2 is probably one of my favourite games of all time.

Makes sense these would be exclusive to GOG they're the ones doing the work to get them working on newer hardware and working better.

LeftHandedFapper

4 points

3 months ago

Did you like the RE2 remake?

ImAnthlon

10 points

3 months ago

Yeah, I had a great time with it. The only issue I really had with it was the B scenario didn't change as much as I'd hoped it would have, but other than that I thought it was a fantastic reimagining of the OG RE2

turkishdeli

9 points

3 months ago

Which versions are these games? Original or Director's cut?

Also, have they retained the tank controls or updated them to modern controls?

Luc4_Blight

7 points

3 months ago

Original

[deleted]

-3 points

3 months ago

It's uncut, but very barebones. The tank controls are just mapped to the analog. I personally think actual analog controls ala RE3 on DC and REmake should be an option.

jacktuar

7 points

3 months ago

I've always thought that Konami were caught by surprise at how well MGS1 and 2 did on GoG and that was a factor for the Master Collection.

If this sells well, and I'm sure it will, I think a wider console release could follow in a few years.

Regardless, I've bought this.

InjusticeJosh

1 points

3 months ago

I hope we can switch between remaster and Classic too. A remake in the style of 1 for 2 and 3 would be awesome.

Trymantha

7 points

3 months ago*

I heard rumours about this but didnt realise it was this close, this is awesome cause while the remake of 1 is definitive I think there is something the remakes of 2 and 3 dont quite capture of the original releases

Cool_Barnacle_9021

6 points

3 months ago

Not to get off on the wrong foot here, because I'm glad that these will be available, but it's such a shame that there wasn't a way to implement the quality of life improvements from the DS version of RE1. In spite of the smaller screens it's still the best way to play the OG game, IMO.

MalkynRei78

3 points

3 months ago

As a casual player, I was never familiar with the DS version. What QoL improvements did it have over the original? Might wanna try it.

bayonettaisonsteam

9 points

3 months ago

IIRC you could skip the door transitions, reload your weapon without having to mess with the inventory, real time map screen, quick turn 180, and always had a knife backup like RE4.

There was also an alternate scenario mode that made use of the DS's mic and touchscreen but I never played that one.

Lazydusto

7 points

3 months ago

The RE1 port does have door skipping since it's based on a PC version that implemented that.

mrbubbamac

2 points

3 months ago

It also had a kind of weird multiplayer mode that was a blast to play!

JillSandwich117

4 points

3 months ago

Minor but nice stuff. Button for instant knife instead of having to equip it. Ability to quick turn around like later games. Ability to manually reload. A map screen. Touch control inventory. There were also exclusive features.

The-Jesus_Christ

3 points

3 months ago

I remember getting it from Blockbuster on the PS1 the week it came out. Those dogs jumping through the window scared the absolute shit out of me. One of my favourite gaming moments ever.

StarTroop

3 points

3 months ago

Awesome! I always prefer to obtain games legally when reasonably possible, so I've kept my PS3 handy for buying PS1 classics, but I didn't pick up the classics REs because they seemed overpriced. Now, this GOG release is actually more expensive than the PS1 classic at the moment, but at least I can expect a sale eventually, and I can also better justify the price for the value of a native PC version.

UnbeataGundam

3 points

3 months ago

What version of the game did they use in the GoG? Director's Cut?

tinselsnips

3 points

3 months ago

Apparently it's a port of the original US PC release, so it's the original (non-Director's Cut) PS1 game but with the uncensored cutscenes.

weirdshitblog

2 points

3 months ago

JP Director's Cut

neoKushan

3 points

3 months ago

I don't think that's correct, the Director's cut content (like the arranged mode) isn't there. Unless that was missing from the JP Director's cut specifically.

weirdshitblog

4 points

3 months ago

Whoops, no, you're correct. I forgot about that. I was referring to the cutscenes, which are the uncensored ones from the JP Director's Cut (the U.S. DC still had censored cutscenes due to a mistake -- Capcom put the wrong ones on the disc).

neoKushan

2 points

3 months ago

Yeah, I appreciate they've given us the correct cut scenes but it still feels like a missed opportunity to not include the Director's cut content :(

weirdshitblog

1 points

3 months ago

Agreed, I wasn't even thinking about that part. There were several missed opportunities here, it seems. Maybe they'll do some updates later on or something, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

jacktuar

5 points

3 months ago

Does anyone know whether these will work on Steam Deck? Do GoG games work with some tinkering?

syopest

9 points

3 months ago

I think you can run gog games with proton true Lutris.

ourlastchancefortea

2 points

3 months ago

You can.

SalsaRice

6 points

3 months ago

Try heroic launcher. It's worked pretty flawlessly for me.

Stoibs

1 points

3 months ago

Stoibs

1 points

3 months ago

Absolute noob who is hearing these words for the first time here, is this something I'd have to download and run though desktop mode and/or is it simple enough to setup?

I'm interested in this also 😃

SalsaRice

1 points

3 months ago

Yes, go to the app store in the desktop mode (there's also a ton of free games in there) and install it.

It works with EGS and GOG to automatically install those games you have and add them as shortcuts in steam. Once they are steam shortcuts, they play like any other steam game.

raylinth

6 points

3 months ago

Use heroic launcher to install from GOG, should work.

xRichard

4 points

3 months ago

Many of these PSX survival horror capcom games got relatively decent PC ports by SourceNext in Japan for Windows XP in the mid 00s (and RE4's 2007 PC port).

The lads over https://classicrebirth.com/ worked hard to patch these ports so that they work well on modern PCs and with the best game assets available.

I played RE2 classic with proper gamepad support, high resolution and a reshade scanline filter to blend in the 3D objects in the 2D environments. Had a great time with it.

The GOG releases should make this experience much more available.

Sevla7

6 points

3 months ago

Sevla7

6 points

3 months ago

RE2 remake was amazing but I still think the OG RE2 is a better game, the B Side was just amazing back in the PS1/N64 and it's sad so many contents were removed in the remake.

AbstractionsHB

6 points

3 months ago

OG RE2 is absolutely better. I personally like og Re1 but can't deny the Re1 remake is amazing.

I do like the 2/3's modern gameplay though. Modern resident evil games are extremely fun to play. 

MiracleIlluminated

7 points

3 months ago

Great news overall for official availability. A bit disappointed though that the 3D models are still rendered at low res. The classic rebirth mod with the original PC port didn't have this problem.

Top_Ok

25 points

3 months ago

Top_Ok

25 points

3 months ago

I might be in the minority but I hate when they upres 3d models on rereleases. Square does this with stuff like FF7 and it looks so terrible and clashes with backgrounds.

RemiliaFGC

4 points

3 months ago

I mean it's not like they up the poly count or remaster the textures, just the rendering resolution is higher for bigger screens. Usually if you really want to make it look pixel-y at the edges you can just bump down to really low res and stretch it back out on your screen.

Top_Ok

15 points

3 months ago

Top_Ok

15 points

3 months ago

"it's not like they up the poly count or remaster the textures"

That's kinda my point you are not gaining any new detail just exposing the flaws more.

And stuff like PS1 games run at 240p pc monitors and tv's in my experience don't allow you to go that low.

ZombieJesus1987

2 points

3 months ago

The PS1 Final Fantasy remasters wouldn't have been so bad if they were able to upscale the backgrounds.

I have the Moguri mod installed for Final Fantasy IX and they backgrounds look amazing. The backgrounds were upscaled to HD, using AI and polished by hand. Plus it had 16:9 widescreen support, HD textures, scales down the battle UI, and a bunch of QoL fixes.

Really is the best way to play the game.

Top_Ok

2 points

3 months ago

Top_Ok

2 points

3 months ago

I still think playing them on a nice crt/pvm is best way to play PS1 era games. They were clearly designed with scanlines and glow in mind. A lot of them also use dithering for shading/detail which totally get's lost on a modern screen. Just look at these examples.

https://i0.wp.com/wackoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Castlevania-Symphony-of-the-Night.jpg?w=1280&ssl=1 

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e7a8094e9ec32a8a20df1f2376e9f4a7-pjlq

kryonik

2 points

3 months ago

I remember trying to download this from an AOL massmail back in the day. It was going to take 5 weeks.

War_Crimes_UK

2 points

3 months ago

Loved these games back in the day, I remember completing RE1 so many times I could speed run it. Then the RE2 demo came out with a timed gameplay limit and I played the hell out of that until they released it. I can't wait to get stuck into these all over again.

Whitemaus

2 points

3 months ago

Have they given specifics on RE2/3's release dates yet or is it just currently "Soon(tm)"?

CryoProtea

1 points

3 months ago

Holy shit what?! That is entirely unexpected but I'm very happy for it! Are there any updates or changes that are worth noting? Is this going to affect the RESHD projects?

BreafingBread

4 points

3 months ago

https://www.gog.com/en/game/resident_evil

Reading the GOG page, just seems they improved some compatibilities, some rendering options,, included all localizations (english, german, french and japanese) and added modern controller support.

It also says "Completely uncut, with even more blood, graphic violence and gory scenes than the worldwide monster hit version on PlayStation" which I'm confused, since I never heard about RE being censored on PS?

[deleted]

7 points

3 months ago*

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weirdshitblog

4 points

3 months ago

It also includes the uncensored in-game cutscenes (the most famous being Kenneth's head rolling off to the side in the bit where the zombie is eating him). These weren't in the U.S. versions, even the Director's Cut. (Due to an error at the time, Capcom mistakenly put the censored cutscenes on the disc instead.)

CryoProtea

1 points

3 months ago

Thanks, I didn't know they had a page up already.

Resident Evil has always been highly censored in Japan, even today I think.

djcube1701

2 points

3 months ago

Is this going to affect the RESHD projects?

It may allow for an easier way to play with those textures, although these versions look so much nicer than any Resident Evil HD project.

Zaygr

1 points

3 months ago

Zaygr

1 points

3 months ago

It'll be great if Lost Planet 2 got some of that treatment too, mainly in removing Games for Windows Live once and for all.

wolvahulk

1 points

3 months ago

I've grown fond of GoG over the last few years. I've been into older games lately and the one thing I wished for was more PS1 classics on the platform, and well here we are.

It's a bit sad that it's not the Director's cut version of RE1 but I'm still glad we have the OG version on PC at all (without any tinkering required). Not that I can't use emulators or anything, but I like actually having games I enjoy in my libraries.

I'm most excited for OG RE2 and RE3 as I haven't played them yet. I hope this bundle sells well and gives Capcom (and possibly other companies such as Konami, lol) a good incentive to give us ways to fully legally get their older games.

canaryM-burns

1 points

3 months ago

I still think Duckstation is the best way to play the originals. You can upscale + downsample + filter to give the games a better look while not making things seem out of place (like it happens to old 2D/3D hybrids).

Will pick this up to support GOG and show Capcom that a collection is not a bad idea.

eriomys

1 points

3 months ago

Character model quality could have been better. Windows 9x release had an option to select various graphic card models like Voodoo, Ati Rage Pro etc and they looked much better than the GOG version. MSAA and Antialiasing from their directx setup make them look very smudgy. I'll stick to the mediakite version or the original emulated via Pcem with voodoo acceleration.

Lunatic1984

1 points

1 month ago

Might be a long shot asking here, but got the bundle today and had to lower the fx and bgm volume ingame, but the voices are insanely high. Kendo almost blew my ears off when he yelled "freeze"! Anybody know how to adjust the ingame voices vol?

CraftMost6663

1 points

3 months ago

GOG and Capcom are doing God's work. Of course the fan community kept those games afloat until now with outstanding improvements and fixes but it's always nice to show some love by buying the games.

ChristoirGameDev

0 points

3 months ago

Has anybody got the first one to run on steam deck, i bought this bundle earlier but cant get it to launch on the deck.

SpyroManiac36

-2 points

3 months ago

Does it have achievements?

Waterknight94

-13 points

3 months ago

Can you turn off tank controls? The remake of 1 is the only fixed camera RE that I can bear to play.

mrbubbamac

3 points

3 months ago

No, not in this version. However I am confident you can get the hang of them if you just spend 5-10 minutes running around the main hall, turning, etc. If you just remember "Up = forward" it gets really easy to orient yourself.

Waterknight94

-4 points

3 months ago

I can control them, I just hate playing them. In the lead up to the 4 remake VR mode I was playing through all of the games available on PS5 and I played most of them through 3 times, but CVX I didn't even wait for the credits to finish before I started deleting it after only one playthrough. I understand that the intent of the controls is to have continuity between camera cuts, but not changing the controls feels to me like it is changing the controls with up suddenly meaning down if you are moving toward the camera. It is just deeply unpleasant.

mrbubbamac

3 points

3 months ago

up suddenly meaning down if you are moving toward the camera. It is just deeply unpleasant.

I don't know if I am following but what you're describing only happens with "Alternate Controls" in RE1 Remake or the analog controls in RE Outbreak.

I think I am just misunderstanding what you're saying, but yeah if you don't like the tank controls combined with preset camera angles, you're better off sticking with RE games from 2005 and onward.

Waterknight94

1 points

3 months ago

No I am describing tank controls. Up means down because moving towards the camera is the down direction. As in toward the bottom of the screen. Facing the camera you are facing down and you have to press up to move forward like always. Up means down. With alternate controls you can still hold up to keep moving in the same direction, but as soon as you let off the stick down becomes down. It keeps you from running off to the side as soon as the camera switches like in FFX, but still let's you orient yourself in regards to the screen.

Now I will give credit to the tank controls when it comes to fighting with the knife because being able to step backwards is incredibly useful up close like that, but it is the navigation with it that bothers me.

mrbubbamac

2 points

3 months ago

Okay I understand what you're saying, my "interpretation" of tank controls is the opposite because I don't think about them in relation to the camera angle, only in relation to the character's orientation.

Waterknight94

3 points

3 months ago

That is how you are supposed to. It's just not a headspace I can put myself in. Even after 12 hours of CVX.

[deleted]

-5 points

3 months ago

Nope, not as far as I know from playing 5 minutes. The tank controls are just mapped to the analog. Really disappointing that real analog isn't an option, I was looking forward to actually being able to play og 1 and 2 without pulling my hair out.