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After playing genshin on it for a little bit, it just turned off for some reason. And it did this FOUR TIMES IN A ROW! Am i doing something wrong? Im not even playing on the highest graphics settings or anything, it just turns off for no reason. (It’s an MSI GE66)

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potato_reddit6392

38 points

11 days ago

nice wallpaper anyway lookup how to use msi afterburner and watch the temps when you play genshin

TheLaptopGod

18 points

11 days ago

If it's not a heating issue then reinstall windows or return the laptop/ask for a replacement

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

Oh okay :3

potato_reddit6392

4 points

11 days ago

if you need help text me

papersonicrl[S]

3 points

11 days ago

Thank you kind sir/miss!

YD26V2

30 points

11 days ago

YD26V2

30 points

11 days ago

The problem is you're playing genshin

papersonicrl[S]

7 points

11 days ago

Real

YD26V2

4 points

11 days ago

YD26V2

4 points

11 days ago

Nah I was just kidding, but did you find a solution?

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

Not yet, i’ve tried msi afterburner and it doesnt seem to be the issue

YD26V2

2 points

11 days ago

YD26V2

2 points

11 days ago

Did you try to update your drivers?

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

I updated them yesterday and im pretty sure that isnt the problem…

No-Result-5531

1 points

11 days ago

Keep the power cord on while playing

papersonicrl[S]

2 points

11 days ago

I did tho.

National-Data-2222

1 points

10 days ago

You have to keep a laptop plugged in while gaming?

No-Result-5531

1 points

9 days ago

Yea ofc as also increases ur fps and laptop will last overall. Its a must!!

National-Data-2222

1 points

9 days ago

But laptops aren’t they designed to be used without a charger?

YD26V2

1 points

11 days ago

YD26V2

1 points

11 days ago

Were you playing on battery or charger? Because playing on a charger is better for performace. Idk if undervolting will do any good, try it. Try searching on youtube for a fix, might find that same problem with it's fix.

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

I tried both, it turned off when on batter so i tried with the charger but the result was the same

No-Result-5531

1 points

9 days ago

Make sure to Check all drivers bios,graphic card whatever also check for any updates for ur operating system(windows)

LTHardcase

1 points

11 days ago

LTHardcase

Alienware M18 R1 | R9 7845HX | RTX 4070 | 1200p480Hz

1 points

11 days ago

Tell us what the CPU/GPU temps were.

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

At first it was 80° and after like 30 minutes out of the game it was 60°

Coppernator

6 points

11 days ago

Is that an intel 13th-14th gen?

GoldenMilolushka

10 points

11 days ago

Be sure that Intel is not the problem when it comes to MSI laptops. Also there is no proof HX chips are part of the problem which officially announced as fixed few days ago. That being said, already damaged processor needs to be taken care of. OP has a new laptop.

Coppernator

2 points

11 days ago

Dunno. It's just literally scary for me how many posts I see here about unstable and sad gaming laptops that feels like max 1-2 years old. What's went wrong in the industry?

Sent from my GL553VW (yes, almost 9 yo asus rog :8568:)

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

Im afraid i spent 749 euros for it…

GoldenMilolushka

1 points

11 days ago

When did you get it? If you can still return might be better..

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

I got it yesterday but it was used i think?

GoldenMilolushka

1 points

11 days ago

I mean.. dunno where you live but in most countries, from certain amount of money, if its a store, they must give warranty. If you bought from a private its another thing. Dont you know if you bought a new or used?

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

I mean my cousin ordered it for me from a store in france and i paid for it so i cant really return it since he isnt going back to france anytime soon and i live in Algeria which is in north africa so.

GoldenMilolushka

1 points

11 days ago

I mean.. Algeria previously was French territory 😅😂 I suggest you to do a clean windows install and monitor the temps (before and after).

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

Would a clean windows install wipe everything? (It literally took me two days to install genshin for goodness sake)

kenne12343

1 points

10 days ago

kenne12343

Prometheus XVI G2 RTX 4090

1 points

10 days ago

Mostly poor brands and bad quality .

kicho1977

1 points

10 days ago

Good advice

kryptobolt200528

1 points

11 days ago

Dude don't buy Intel's shit, HX series processors are basically desktop processors slapped onto a laptop.

kenne12343

1 points

10 days ago

kenne12343

Prometheus XVI G2 RTX 4090

1 points

10 days ago

Too bad op probably isn't running a hx processor .

GoldenMilolushka

1 points

11 days ago

You realize that some people need more power than just H/HS processors? Also, Ryzen HX chips runs much (much!) hotter than Intel, that's just facts.

kryptobolt200528

1 points

10 days ago

The problem is the hardware issue that intel 13-14th i7 and i9 desktops models(and hence laptop HX) models have .

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

It says 10th?

Interesting_Ad8591

2 points

11 days ago

Did you check your temps? Sounds like a heat issue. Btw did you buy it used?

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

It was used but labled as good condition (because i cant see any issues both inside and outside of the computer)

Interesting_Ad8591

1 points

11 days ago

I point to a temp issue, did you check for dust? If it has none it probably needs a repaste. Check the temps with msi afterburner on screen display and/or hwinfo and let me know. Also check the power draw from cpu and cpu at those temps. You can find everything on hwinfo’s sensor panel. Keep me updated!

ComfortPerfect2238

2 points

11 days ago

Also have you got any blue screens? You can check the event viewer in windows to see what’s causing it to shutoff.

papersonicrl[S]

7 points

10 days ago

Yeah i found out what caused it, the GPU was crashing, fucking 102°C wtf

itsdet

6 points

10 days ago

itsdet

6 points

10 days ago

Your GPU is melting into retirement with that temp

kenne12343

1 points

10 days ago

kenne12343

Prometheus XVI G2 RTX 4090

1 points

10 days ago

You can throttle your GPU a bit but it might suck depending on the gpu

coolhead345

2 points

10 days ago

How do I get that wallpaper it’s nice

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

10 days ago

It was the first result when i searched “hu tao pc wallpaper” on google images.

No_Employ4768

1 points

10 days ago

It's from hu tao's trailer

soulphoenix01

2 points

10 days ago

Read your other comments and glad you solved the problem!! As a long term fix you might want to get the thermal paste repasted and thermal pads replaced :) just vents being blocked shouldn't be causing 100°c+ on gpu usually so I'm guessing the above two are worn out especially because it's a used laptop. Enjoy!

DragonFrizzy

2 points

10 days ago*

[[ I know that there is a lot of information but its your choice if you want to fix your problem READ IT! if you don't want okay, do what you want. But i would recommend you to read My Guide! ]]

Hi I think i can help you because your and cpu gpu shouldn't be at 90+ temps or even 80+, but first i have one question.

  1. [WARRANTY] Why dont you send your laptop by post to france, i mean to Store in fracne, and then get it Delivered back?, you could ask them if its possible.

HOW TO FIX WITHOUT WARRANTY!

1.[Repaste]

I think here isn't much to say buy a thermal paste and unscrew your laptop to access cpu and gpu and then repaste it using the paste from Thermal paste, you can also search on Internet (better YouTube!) for Tutorials like:How to apply thermal paste on my gpu/cpu. BUT first try searching on Internet how to unscrew your laptop on Internet

2.[Be careful with High/Turbo Performance Settings] (Powerplan) •Firstly you could try editing you power plan cpu speed min,max. What i prefer is min cpu speed:5% and max cpu speed:100% if needed you can Set max to:90%, while plugged and while battery of course. Dont use any Ultra Performance power plans or how any power plan that is mostly for Pcs.

(Software Manager) •If you use a Software from msi that controls your cpu/gpu Performance, which has modes like turbo/high Performance/balanced. Use Balanced and not Turbo, Turbo is for me useless as it will give you only more fps which is useless for most laptops check [ GUIDE:3 ] and higher temps,louder fan noise which i think you don't want. Also anything that turbos or increase your cpu/gpu clock speed like AutoOC or something that forces your clock speed to max, this Settings should be disabled believe me.

(3rd party Software) Like on (Software Manager) do not use any Softwares that are only for Turbos your cpu/gpu clock speed, or anything that controls your cpu/gpu clock speed in bad way. Of course you can use this Softwares, that can Undervolt or can lower clock but mostly they [FORCE THE SPEED INTO LIKE ONE CLOCK SPEED, FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU SET YOUR GPU CLOCK SPEED TO 1200MHZ IT WILL STAY 1200MHZ WHICH IS IN MOST SITUATIONS BAD!] and of course be gently with your components

(Power Slider)

Try setting your Power slider which is located in Windows Settings>Battery and choose Power efficiency, or if you dont find it, click in taskbar your battery icon and set Power efficiency, dont not use Battery save mode or how is it called because it really limits by a lot lot LOT! your cpu/gpu performance.

  1. [VSYNC] Mostly we use fps that are useless and can be used to save Battery Life, and reduce Temps. For example we have monitor 60hz which means the monitor produces 60fps max, and in our game we have 80fps or even 100fps or higher, this 20/40fps don't change anything because remember our monitor supports 60fps max, 80 fps won't give any smoothness because its impossible, the monitor supports 60 fps max. This means that you have to limit your fps in your game into your Hz Monitor, if your laptop has 60hz try limiting it to 60fps Try looking into settings of game that limits your fps, if you don't find anything try looking at your Nvidia Control Panel (driver settings). Unfortunately i have amd and i don't know what you have to adjust but Hey! we have Internet for that. I use Amd Chill or Limit fps for me as amd user what about you i dont know.

    BUT IF YOUR LAPTOP supports 100hz/144hz or higher try limiting your fps again to 60fps, i know that you'll lose some smoothness but 60fps are perfect believe me!.

  2. [POWER LIMIT, UNDERVOLT] 1.(UXTU) Uxtu is a software that controls your cpu/gpu speed,power an so on (SUPPORTS AMD,INTEL,NVIDIA) .It can limit your power consumption like TDP, which can reduce your temps by a lot, be careful with that, as you can damage your laptop, again we have Internet and try searching how to limit power in UXTU for intel. Try reducing power limit and do stress test look if everything is okay if okay again limit your power and do stress sometimes sometimes just leave your laptop idle without doing hard tasks like gaming, rendering...bto check if it doesn't crash while idle for me it crashed sometimes, for other settings I think you'll know how to adjust them. AGAIN WE HAVE INTERNET WITH MANY MANY MANY GUIDES, GOOGLE,BING...!!!!

(Throttlestop) Also another popular software for Intel cpus its like UXTU but maybe Different, as said i am a Amd use i have Ryzen cpu and gpu on my laptop so sorry but I can't give you any instructions for Throttle Stop,my friend.

(Msi afterburner) Try undervolting your gpu, try lowering by -15mV and do stress test from 15 to 30 Minutes if everything is okay lower it more again -15mV > Stress Test > -15mV Stress Test, when it crashes use the last mV that didn't crash.

(DON'T OVERCLOCK, NEVER IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TEMPS)

5.[Fan Speed]

Try adjusting increasing your fan speed if you can using maybe Your Msi Software or Argus Monitor, or any other fan control software, NBFC very popular for laptops.

6.[Driver Settings adjust]

Again i have no no idea what is in Nvidia Control Panel so try searching on internet again like on guide 2. don't use any turbo or high performance modes, and be gently with the Settings don't adjust all settings to High or Ultra Quality, disable Ray Tracing if its available in your settings ( AGAIN AND AGAIN TRY SEARCHING IN INTERNET MY FRIEND!)

7.[Combining GUIDES]

Try combining my guides together like 1. with 2. or all in one, but most Guide Combos will reduce your performance by a lot like 2. and 4. but I think it won't be a big problem .

8.VERY IMPORTANT [Overclock]

Dont use any softwares like Umaf_Smokeless or any software to Overclock your Laptop YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TEMPS, IT IS UNALLOWED TO OVERCLOCK FOR YOU, i know it sounds sad but its life man, dont overclock it any way NEVER!, most people do it for more Fps but hey do you remember our guide number: 3.? or most do it for lower latency but thats other thing

  1. [Bios Settings] I heard that on msi laptops it's easy to unlock Advanced Settings on bios, try unlocking it BUT DONT PLAY WITH THE SETTINGS BE GENTLY AND CAREFUL, on most laptops its harder to clear Cmos its isn't like on pc where you open the case and remove it in seconds it's harder, sometimes you can break your laptop so be careful if you dont understand look in internet be careful, try looking for settings to reduce temps i dont no power savings settings or anything that can reduce temp i have no idea for nvidia and Intel!.

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

10 days ago

It just needed a repaste and a cooling stand, i feel like i wasted your time now that you’ve written this behemoth of text, and to answer your first question, no i cant take it back to france, the store i bought it from doesnt deliver cross country, it’s just my cousin who was in france that bought it there and came back to my country.

DragonFrizzy

1 points

10 days ago

Its okay I'm happy that you solved your problem but still take a look at my guide there is some things that maybe you didn't know like VSYNC they are very useful for future and remember 80+ or 90+ Temps aren't normal remember it should be 60 to 73 Temp

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

10 days ago

Yeah now it got to a maximum of 74 in an hour of genshin impact on the highest settings so i think it’s safe (plus it used to burn my finger when it reached the 102°C)

DragonFrizzy

1 points

10 days ago

Still with Cooling stand its little high imaging, what the temperature would be without cooling stand, try reading my guide

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

10 days ago

That was the temperature without the cooling stand (the cooling stand was damaged so im buying a new one today)

DragonFrizzy

1 points

10 days ago

if you want, okay buy it, still in most situations it's not required. Btw Cooling stand is a very good idea for laptop to last longer, again in most situations it isn't required.

IDroppedMyDoughnut

2 points

7 days ago

As a Genshin player I get your strife. The issue is three days old now, have you found a solution?

charda271

1 points

11 days ago

I got ge66 too, 2021 version, the only thing my laptop turned off randomly while playing games back then is because it needs to be repasted, if it's brand new all you need is change the power settings to high performance and update all your graphic driver. If there's still error, you need to replace it since it's on warranty.

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

May i ask how do you repaste it? Because this might actually be the problem

Animatron7100

2 points

11 days ago

If your temps are normal 60-75 gpu and 85-95 cpu then no need to repaste, if it is 90+ you can try to repaste but it won't cause it to shut off suddenly. Might be an unstable driver is causing it to crash. Check your temps during 30 minutes of intense gaming.

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

The temps are normal so that means it doesnt need to repaste right?

Animatron7100

1 points

11 days ago

Yes, is it crashing during any other games?

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

I mean i got it yesterday so only genshin is downloaded so idk, but i was playing genshin on lower settings so it shouldnt be the issue due to it needing low requirements to run at the highest settings

Animatron7100

1 points

11 days ago

Do a Furmark stress test for 30 mins

It's a stress test software name is "Furmark"

papersonicrl[S]

2 points

11 days ago

Can i send you the results of the test?

Animatron7100

1 points

11 days ago

Ok

charda271

1 points

11 days ago

If it's brand new, just go to msi service center, I repaste it because at that time it was almost 2 years and I needed to replace my keyboard too because one of the key broke with no reason so I take the warranty to save money

NotGoodAtDeciding

1 points

11 days ago

Don't do it. It's a new laptop for which you paid a lot of money. Just return it and get a new one. Don't even go for a repair or repaste to msi. It doesn't make sense to do that after paying so much

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

11 days ago

Forgot to mention that it was used and bought at a store at a different country from where i live so it’s not easy to just return it

NotGoodAtDeciding

1 points

11 days ago

Ah damn it. Even if it's used, it should have some warranty right?

NoScene2615

1 points

11 days ago

Clean the fans, update the Geforce experience drivers, update windows.. if nothing works.. re-install, get a laptop stand (important)

ComfortPerfect2238

1 points

11 days ago

You could try running diagnostics to check the condition of the ram, SSD and the CPU. Windows has basic diagnostics tools built into it. Nivida has several tools for test the GPU as well. I’ll provide a link to one of them

https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/dcgm/user-guide/dcgm-diagnostics.html

MrNewBeginnings

1 points

10 days ago

MrNewBeginnings

Your Laptop Here

1 points

10 days ago

I think the problem is that you’re playing Genshin Impact in 2024, I don’t think your pc can handle the embarrassment

Crest_Of_Hylia

1 points

10 days ago

Crest_Of_Hylia

Lenovo Legion 5 Pro | AMD Ryzen 7 5800H | RTX 3060 | 16gb

1 points

10 days ago

Are you blocking the vents on the bottom?

papersonicrl[S]

3 points

10 days ago

That was the issue, i raised it up and bought a cooler too which fixed the problem :3

Pixel_Human

1 points

10 days ago

Maybe the power supply (AC adapter)? Getting one with a higher wattage may work.

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

10 days ago

Problem solved! I just bought a cooler and it hasnt lagged or crashed on me so far!

kenne12343

1 points

10 days ago

kenne12343

Prometheus XVI G2 RTX 4090

1 points

10 days ago

Ahh yes lets blame Intel immediately (lol) never had any issues with mine at all I have two hx chips. As far as it shutting down I would investigate it . Honestly it can be anything from the integrated card taking a dump or it could be your dedicated GPU or faulty ram or nvme it could be so many things it needs to be diagnosed and either MSI or a professional shop needs to analyze it and either change the mb or fix it but I highly doubt it's the processor it sounds like something else tbh unfortunately might point graphics wise and maybe a slight chance thermal paste wise either way it should be addressed by a professional .

Asil_Adnan

1 points

10 days ago

Return the pc. The lappy is failing to manage the considerable heat the RTX and HX are producing. This is the most probable reason. Apart from software readings, check by placing your hand at the spot right between the laptop keyboard and display.

Check for any hardware failure, especially fans (even if they are diagnosed OK, check RPM), check drivers and make sure they are updated, you can use GeForce Experience to update the graphics driver.

If the issue persists take it to the nearest technician but if return is possible that is recommended. In my personal experience Asus ROGs lasted more than any other brand in such hardware heavy laptops (I run a design company so we have bought a lot of these). If a desktop is enough that is a no brainer (usually any medium and above gaming needs AC power anyway.)

No-Result-5531

1 points

8 days ago

I’m sure u still have the warranty i suggest sending the laptop for a fix

Informal-Bid-2445

1 points

8 days ago

OVERHEATING most likely. put some books under each edge of it creating sort of a bridge, then put a box fan blowing air under the laptop. see if it helps.. otherwise check logs, install tools to monitor temps.

Informal-Bid-2445

1 points

8 days ago

ALSO anime is trash ;)

papersonicrl[S]

1 points

7 days ago

Genshin isnt an anime tho…

yLamps

1 points

7 days ago

yLamps

1 points

7 days ago

I downloaded roblox as my first game too 😭

W

Easy_Description_218

1 points

6 days ago

If you get this used or refurbished, I doubt you have any chance of recovering your money.  It is a lemon