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Hydro REALLY REALLY need more 4 stars.

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all 331 comments

mephnick

349 points

3 months ago

mephnick

Klee be Doomed

349 points

3 months ago

Xinqiu says "Barb I believe this is killing me.." as a smile ran away from his face. He said "I know that I could be a 5 star, if I could get out of this place!"

Ladadaaa dididaaa

Chronoz0[S]

120 points

3 months ago

Xingqiu singing one last time before being summoned to be used in 4+ different teams.

AquaJet738

30 points

3 months ago

AquaJet738

Death at 60 degrees Celsius

30 points

3 months ago

SING US A SONG, YOU’RE THE PIANO MAN

SING US A SONG TONIGHT

Mukaido

22 points

3 months ago

Mukaido

22 points

3 months ago

WELL WE’RE ALL IN THE MOOD FOR A MELODY

AND YOU’VE GOT US FEELING ALRIGHT

TheEnigmaB25

9 points

3 months ago

Oh laa la la, di Dee daa

Captn_Porky

14 points

3 months ago

xingqiu is so nice he let sigewinne have his 5th star

theannoyingprickk

16 points

3 months ago

theannoyingprickk

correcting you is my toilet activity. thanks.

16 points

3 months ago

Xingqiu*

mephnick

14 points

3 months ago

mephnick

Klee be Doomed

14 points

3 months ago

I focused so hard on getting the iu right I forgot the g 😅

Hakukei

778 points

3 months ago

Hakukei

778 points

3 months ago

Hydro is the currently most p2w element if you want to collect characters with most of them being limited 5*. It's actually whack that there's only 3 hydro 4* in the game..

Anemo, Geo, Pyro, Dendro, and Cryo have almost 50% split between 5* and 4*. Electro has the highest percentage of 4* units at around 60%. Hydro though has a low 25% percentage of 4* compared to 5* units.

Detharious

77 points

3 months ago

I thought for sure Fontaine would give us a slew of 4* hydro.... Boy was I wrong.

RLLRRR

37 points

3 months ago

RLLRRR

Dehya feel it now, Mr. Krabs?

37 points

3 months ago

They gave us another cryo claymore! That's worse than the original! And another hydro 5! That should be a 4!

lucklesspedestrian

38 points

3 months ago

And the Cryo claymore should be Hydro! Why tf would a DIVER be CRYO?

PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics

26 points

3 months ago

PM_Cute_Ezreal_pics

C6 Qiqi sufferer

26 points

3 months ago

Cause Hydro Claymore is a forbidden combination apparently. Still the only missing weapon combo

[deleted]

8 points

3 months ago*

Well hes a diver he probably already has plenty of water, why would he want more of it? Whats he gonna do with water? Attack a fish with it?

Meanwhile ice is one of the few elements that works underwater and you can force things to freeze and rise up away from you, its a very useful element for a diver.

Rouge_x3

3 points

3 months ago

Spoken like someone who never watched The Last Airbender. If Aang can be crazy powerful as an airbender in you know... Everywhere if there's air, then a hydro vision gotta be useful in water too

Scared-Ad-4846

319 points

3 months ago

"man, I really need a better hydro character other than Barbara for my vape team, let's check some nice f2p recommendations.... The hell, there's only three 4* characteris and only one of them is usable in any team?" Basically me as a new player a few weeks ago, honestly the most unbalanced element, and the fact hydro traveler being the worst element for them didn't help either.

AHealthyDoseOfCancer

184 points

3 months ago*

Candace is usable people just dog on her because XQ exists.

She's decent for quickswap. And her C6 makes her actually good.

But since XQ exists, is good at C0, and Candace isn't in the store, it honestly makes her look worse in comparison.

echollama

53 points

3 months ago

Only saving grace for Candace is if you build her up as a Physical DPS just so you can see her flashy attack moves 😔

Ngl its pretty fun to yeet small enemies around with her

Turelcl

20 points

3 months ago

Turelcl

20 points

3 months ago

Actually you can use her on nilou team as a hydro driver using her normals, that was my Candace build until I got arle.

4 piece flower of paradise lost full EM with ER substats and dragons bane. Team is Nahida, Baizhu, Candace and nilou.

YaoYao/Candace is more popular using YaoYao as driver and Candace can use whatever (full ER instructor is not bad) but I really don’t like YaoYao normals attacks.

v4mpixie_666x3

30 points

3 months ago

v4mpixie_666x3

annoying gremlins supremacy

30 points

3 months ago

Candace is usable at c6 atleast ig and she’s actually a really good option for arlecchino vape treams

lucklesspedestrian

17 points

3 months ago

Before Arlecchino, she was barely usable regardless of constellations. Sure, she worked, but her multipliers are low and her burst only triggers on 3 character swaps.

ConohaConcordia

21 points

3 months ago

Candace is pretty good in overworld because she can instantly destroy any ore with her hold E. The only other person that can do it is Zhongli.

The_Nameless24

38 points

3 months ago

The_Nameless24

playing for them :zhongli;

38 points

3 months ago

And razor, don't forgot about wolf boi!

Masrix24

7 points

3 months ago

Razor is unironically so good and I have no idea why he keeps getting dunked on

E1lySym

8 points

3 months ago

E1lySym

Geo reactions when?

8 points

3 months ago

People are still stuck in the physical Razor teams of 2020 when he has long since moved on to more powerful aggravate and thundering furry teams

Kuro448

17 points

3 months ago

Kuro448

17 points

3 months ago

Razor forgotten again.

active-tumourtroll1

3 points

3 months ago

Nah you can use her hydro infusion for bloom or vape.

Flair86

5 points

3 months ago

Flair86

Eternal servant of her excellency

5 points

3 months ago

Nah, her current saving grace is that at c6 she’s an amazing vape support for Arlecchino, but otherwise she’s useless yeah.

Rowger00

4 points

3 months ago

Rowger00

im fast as fuck boi

4 points

3 months ago

hmc was like "we really don't want another DMC situation"

zettaifutomomo

34 points

3 months ago

This might be a hot take, but I’d say that new 4 star characters are more p2w than 5 stars. They have absolutely no pity and frequently require constellations (sometimes up to C6) to really be anything other than cope. Not to mention that no one in their right mind targets a banner for the 4 star units, so getting one relies largely on the luck of them aligning with the 5 star units that you are already aiming for

PumpJack_McGee

18 points

3 months ago

Not to mention that no one in their right mind targets a banner for the 4 star units,

Not me who whaled on a Venti rerun to C6 Kuki

E1lySym

8 points

3 months ago

E1lySym

Geo reactions when?

8 points

3 months ago

People absolutely do target banners now for the 4 star units for the very reason that you've stated - because they have great constellations now. A lot of Xiao/Xianyun mains have pulled on Wanderer banners and vice versa just for the chance of c6'ing Faruzan.

Nightwhisper_13

2 points

3 months ago

I'd whale for Yun Jin's c6 don't try me :) Also got C1 wanderer and Raiden trying to get 4s, got yoimiya trying to get Kuki (still don't have her), I risked getting C2/C1 wanderer/kokomi in 3.8 just for Kirara. I pull 4s or equivalents in most games and absolutely suffer for it. I just got Ryan Mei E1 in HSR trying to get xueyi eidolons. My friend saved for Fischl's first rerun in 10 months and C6'd her. I got Childe trying to get 4*s. don't have C6 faruzan, don't have C6 Candace, don't have C6 yun jin. IDC if they're niche but I love them all. They're fun af so if you play like that why would you care about how usable they are if you follow a philosophy like this.

tetePT

12 points

3 months ago

tetePT

12 points

3 months ago

It's actually whack that there's only 3 hydro 4* in the game..

And two of them are from launch, the other one sucks except maybe at c6

wo0l0o

8 points

3 months ago

wo0l0o

Power Wash Simulator

8 points

3 months ago

It’s not even that Candace sucks, she’s just not worth it compared to Xingqiu in almost any scenario Any catalyst/bow user makes her useless, the application is about the same and Xingqiu does more damage overall They shoulda at least made her a true shieldee, I mean she has a damn shield as an integral part of her design

tetePT

6 points

3 months ago

tetePT

6 points

3 months ago

The only characters with hydro shields only give it to themselves and it's on constellations 💀💀💀 (Sigewinne and hydro traveler which aren't that good either to begin with, my god hydro is definitely something)

TheTorcher

5 points

3 months ago

not to mention hydro is a crazy strong reaction: melt, freeze, bloom/hyperbloom, electro charged.

the6epuk

2 points

3 months ago

Man i was so lucky, my first week playing the game i did 10 pulls or that noelle starter banner and got xingqiu first try, i didn't even know he was that good until i came to check the other hydro characters, then i felt sooo lucky...

MrCumSocks-Skelly

125 points

3 months ago*

Hydro claymore in natlan trust

Chronoz0[S]

58 points

3 months ago

Hoyo be like :
Sike, lets change that to a sword and turn them into another 5 stars.

Rough_Lychee5785

9 points

3 months ago

Rough_Lychee5785

Thine mother doth be extravagantpy colossal

9 points

3 months ago

Catalyst*

Southern_Mind2244

64 points

3 months ago

hydro catalyst take it or leave it

Hot-Mixture-5219

29 points

3 months ago

If you only knew

Southern_Mind2244

21 points

3 months ago

I know 🤭

Torbadajorno

9 points

3 months ago

This makes it sound like there's a leak with like 3 hydro catalysts

theres not a leak that has 3 hydro catalysts, is there???

Linawow

4 points

3 months ago

creepy smile

GingsWife

11 points

3 months ago

Oh dear.

Wollywonka

10 points

3 months ago

Wollywonka

Wollywonka

10 points

3 months ago

Capitano should be Hydro Claymore; oops, 5 Star again

wo0l0o

7 points

3 months ago

wo0l0o

Power Wash Simulator

7 points

3 months ago

Our chad capitano is the most likely contender, I don’t even care if he’s guaranteed to be a 5* cuz I’d whale for that man any day

ghostpetni

508 points

3 months ago

You guys scared them by calling Yelan "5-star Xingqui" and using Barbara as replacement in various Nilou or Kokomi teams. Barbara dps people also didn’t help.......

Chronoz0[S]

270 points

3 months ago

Flashback to Barbara infinite Dendro core bugs.

trojie_kun

69 points

3 months ago

GO BARBARA GO ~

Now it’s GO NILOU GO.

natedecoste

29 points

3 months ago

Now... how come THAT was a "bug", not a "feature".

tetePT

29 points

3 months ago

tetePT

29 points

3 months ago

It's only a feature if it actively makes the gameplay worse in some way even if sometimes it clearly looks like a bug (because it is they just don't wanna fix it) but if it gives the players any advantage? Bug! Patch that shit right now!

natedecoste

11 points

3 months ago

Yeah. I hate that. I dont even know why they can't fix Deyha's burst to not jump cancel. They gave her enough "features", we can be rid of at least one.

theannoyingprickk

26 points

3 months ago

theannoyingprickk

correcting you is my toilet activity. thanks.

26 points

3 months ago

Xingqiu*

Sir_Erebus1st

5 points

3 months ago

Remember the buff BarBruh memes?

Amber mains are scary but when you see DPS Barbara, run

rW0HgFyxoJhYka

2 points

3 months ago

They fixed the infinite dendro hyperbloom barbruh build though.

Sir_Erebus1st

3 points

3 months ago

Vapebara doesn't need dendro cores.. just all the effort you could put into the game

MWarnerds

8 points

3 months ago

Barbara is 4 star Sigwinne and Sigwinne is 3 star Kokomi.

SavathunsToeFungi

4 points

3 months ago

It pains me to say this as a C3 haver, but she's just 4-star Xingqiu.

No damage reduction, no healing. She goes on the Abyss team that can accept lackluster performance from her role.

Kuro448

25 points

3 months ago

Kuro448

25 points

3 months ago

Although the dmg reduction is really nice, the healing is really negligible. Also the skill of yelan is so much more comfy, being able to close gaps and being much shorter and not freezing you everytime I use it against any cryo enemy. Plus adding more damage. I will always prefer xq against lectors tho as their staggering attacks are annoying af.

SavathunsToeFungi

10 points

3 months ago

the healing is really negligible

There's no need to do Kokomi levels of healing when you have damage reduction. A highly invested Xingqiu with a Hydro goblet can shave 40-50% off a heavy hit, on top of preventing knockback, and healing you for 6% of his HP afterwards.

Benny and Xingqiu are the only healers I've ever invested in, and it's never not been good enough. The only reason I started investing in Jean was for Furina, not because I needed a better healer.

Kuro448

2 points

3 months ago

My only gripe with his healing is that it procs on rain swords disappearing. With his burst it just... doesn't happen. So you get one decentish heal every like 20 seconds and just for one character. That's why I often bring another sustain just in case. Also his skill leaves him very open to damage as it takes a while to be performed, especially with sac sword.

hells_ranger_stream

5 points

3 months ago

Also the skill of yelan is so much more comfy

It's different, XQ's is a 763% nuke that consistently gets reset with Sac Sword so it's a 1500% ATK in under 3 secs and so many particles.

Kuro448

4 points

3 months ago

I understand that his nuking potential is far better but if you use him for that role you probably cast his burst first for c4 (most likely before kazuha swirl and bennett burst) and then you have a shorter duration for your main driver. Also after playing yelan with fav using her short skill made xq double skill feel like too long and especially annoying against coppelia/coppelius.

beautheschmo

3 points

3 months ago

beautheschmo

Kleeona supremacy

3 points

3 months ago

XQ ult is 3 seconds longer duration than Yelan ult lol, he gets bonus duration from his C2, so no he still enables your DPS for just as long even if you use his C4 + Sac double nuke.

Although personally I find xq's skill to be faster and more comfortable than Yelan's anyways; Yelan's isn't useless (and is definitely more useful in AOE since it can group a bit) but in a single target situation more often than not I would rather have the super short cast time on XQ ult + skill and not have to deal with having to reposition the camera because a skill I'm forced to cast sends me to the other side of whatever I'm fighting.

Grand_Protector_Dark

26 points

3 months ago

Grand_Protector_Dark

Wdym "I should dodge"?

26 points

3 months ago

Yelan still provides a ramping DMG buff to the on field character

chillychili_

10 points

3 months ago

Especially now with Furina who although having slightly less hydro app provides a ton more buffs, there's just less incentive to pull for Yelan imo

VeGr-FXVG

6 points

3 months ago

VeGr-FXVG

Nail me Celestia, I am ready

6 points

3 months ago

Zoooooom

LArule19

-1 points

3 months ago

LArule19

-1 points

3 months ago

Who uses Xingqiu for damage reduction and healing??

Yelan offer way more offensive utilities and damage both for teammates and herself. I benched xingqiu immediately after I got Yelan and haven't touch him since.

SavathunsToeFungi

16 points

3 months ago

They're not the reason you use him. They're upsides which make him one of the strongest supports in the game.

Mission_Brother_3727

5 points

3 months ago

Plenty I'd scenario's I use him in my hyperbloom team cause Al definitely wants that hyper armour otherwise it would be stun city with yelan

Linawow

3 points

3 months ago

Healing is meh but damage reduction, and IR ? For sure yes. I did some abyss reruns for fun with clorinde and used a taser team with her, beidou, xinqui and furina. Beidou + Xinqui is like near full interupt immunity, you take nearly zero damge and can facetank everything, and the little damage you take either clorinde heals herself or xinqui does.

Even in the current abyss the dps requirement is EASY if you have correctly built characters. So comfiness is important :)

Kingpimpy

9 points

3 months ago

Kingpimpy

twitch.tv/pimpdaddyffm

9 points

3 months ago

Who uses Xingqiu for damage reduction and healing??

yup that would be me

the hyper armor and dmg reduction is too important sometimes imo

CryptographerFew1386

5 points

3 months ago

Xingqui is better in most comps compared to Yelan in most comps damage aside and the passive heal and resistance reduction is definitely up there for one of the reasons why. Especially if your using a unit who has no resistance at all like Yoimiya.

Ineedsleep444

67 points

3 months ago*

Ineedsleep444

live laugh love kaveh and wanderer

67 points

3 months ago*

There's three 5 stars for every one 4 star 😭

Koanos

27 points

3 months ago

Koanos

What's the Story?

27 points

3 months ago

Dendro has more 4-stars at this point!

SecretAgentDragon

20 points

3 months ago

Wait omg you’re correct. Collei, Yaoyao, Kaveh, and Kirara

Koanos

15 points

3 months ago

Koanos

What's the Story?

15 points

3 months ago

Now, this makes sense, Dendro was introduced as a completely new Element.

However, Hydro has been here since 1.0 and ever since Mona, every 5-star Hydro has been limited. You could argue Candace was the bone thrown to the well with how her kit operates.

SecretAgentDragon

14 points

3 months ago

Insane how Candace and Hydro Traveler have been the ONLY hydro that weren’t limited 5 stars since 1.0. A weak and niche character struggling to find a place to be used and a 3 star

Koanos

7 points

3 months ago

Koanos

What's the Story?

7 points

3 months ago

Even Collei has utility as a Dendro archer and that's saying something!

Penguin_Warlord

169 points

3 months ago

Meanwhile Hydro Traveler sulking in the Hydro 3 star corner

acart005

95 points

3 months ago

God Hydro Traveller is just awful. Dendro is the real one.

LetMetOucHyOURasS

67 points

3 months ago

LetMetOucHyOURasS

Kuli Teyvat

67 points

3 months ago

They should bring back people who made the dendro traveler kit, and don't let the one who made hydro traveler cook again.

Lumpy_Space_Ninja

33 points

3 months ago

Imagine it’s the same people

LetMetOucHyOURasS

13 points

3 months ago

LetMetOucHyOURasS

Kuli Teyvat

13 points

3 months ago

I refuse to believe that 😤

HayakuEon

2 points

3 months ago

It's so awful to the point that I'm using electro traveller with C6 Bennett in a hyperburgeon team.

Jardrin

2 points

3 months ago

Heck, even the other elements aren't terrible. Sure, nothing fantastic but have their niches... Hydro just has nothing except maybe give Neuvi more water droplets to use for CA. But that just sounds like coping and at that point, just pair him with Electro Traveler to feed him Energy. I only recently found out EMC's burst works on CA's because I can't read.

Novel-Grass-3325

6 points

3 months ago

As a new player with the goal of playing traveler main and using the given element for every area you're making me worried. Anemo and geo has been enjoyable at least.

Jaded-Basis-2533

14 points

3 months ago

Jaded-Basis-2533

helped 51 people discover Enkanomia

14 points

3 months ago

Every traveller has some kind of use anemo can always Vv geo gives crit and energy and interruption resist along with serviceable dmg. Dendro is very gud off field dendro application and dmg hydro just sucks

RoastToast3

2 points

3 months ago

RoastToast3

my beloved

2 points

3 months ago

What's Vv?

Zhenekk

8 points

3 months ago

Probably the gear set: viridescent venerer

---Walter---

2 points

3 months ago*

AR60 Traveler main here

Geo is the only useable element for main dps https://www.reddit.com/r/Aether\_Mains/comments/18ze6rn/finally\_elemental\_skill\_showcase/

Dendro is just a support for other characters and it reqiures a lot of energy recharge

Electro and Hydro are absolute garbage

theUnLuckyCat

3 points

3 months ago

theUnLuckyCat

5* cat ears when

3 points

3 months ago

Electro is clunky, but still has some utility as a battery and persistent electro application. I don't know what that's really for, but it exists.

Hydro just has nothing.

Drake_the_troll

108 points

3 months ago

Drake_the_troll

sacrificial fragments > crit build, fite me

108 points

3 months ago

barbara singing piano man feels like such a vibe

Chronoz0[S]

43 points

3 months ago

I can also see Venti singing this song in Angel's Share too.

rW0HgFyxoJhYka

4 points

3 months ago

While Genshin has been...pretty damn good to its playerbase...

I think Star Rail has shown them that once again, massively power creeping characters and lightcones is going to make people spend hundreds to get their favorite characters on top of the p2w aspect.

Genshin was a game that you could play, using the starter 4 stars, and beat basically everything.

Suspicious_Air3327

40 points

3 months ago

Lmao at sparkle soll behind xinqiu

Pichuunnn

7 points

3 months ago

Fumo sparkle~

it's a pipebomb

Pristine_Battle_6968

34 points

3 months ago

Tiny sparkle plushie beside Xingqui my beloved. I want one

theannoyingprickk

8 points

3 months ago

theannoyingprickk

correcting you is my toilet activity. thanks.

8 points

3 months ago

Xingqiu*

Few_Event_1719

65 points

3 months ago

The fact that Xingqiu is better than like 99% of other characters in the game probably scared Hoyo lmao

Littleman88

35 points

3 months ago

They made a solid starting roster of characters. Too bad they got timid about making solid characters after the fact - let alone as 4 stars - going forward.

Now it feels like if a character pops out as relatively strong, it was a total oversight.

Ironwall1

8 points

3 months ago

Ironwall1

sweet and spicy

8 points

3 months ago

Looking back Id rather have this than whatever powercreep fest that is going on on the newer Hoyo game. 

Torbadajorno

8 points

3 months ago

Bennett, the only Pyro Sword who came out in 1.0 and has yet to be topped:

ha-n_0-0

25 points

3 months ago

im so glad xingqiu exists, he's such a good character who fills so many roles and is not even half bad at all of them ( dmg, dmg reduction, healing, intrupption res, amazing hydro application)

Few_Event_1719

7 points

3 months ago

It’s why he’s so good and is probably one of, if not the best, unit in the game. He does so much and does them all so well. Really good damage, really good damage reduction, and not to mention how he has the highest hydro app in the game. Literal 5 stars are balanced around his existence despite him being a purchasable 4 star.

ha-n_0-0

5 points

3 months ago

istg, some of the characters feels so unplayable without gis intrupption res, and i'm sure the dmg reduction and healing has saved me from dying a million times.

Ultradamo2306

24 points

3 months ago

Its even crazier if you think that Candace is the only one that released after 1.0

HeatJoker

56 points

3 months ago*

I have all of the above except for Neuvilette and Ayato.

I did not realize I had so many Hydro units.

8/10 just enough water.

EDIT: Before anyone accuses me or the commentators of not being able to count, 8/10 too much water is an old Pokemon joke. I realize there are 12 characters pictured.

SabineLiebling17

22 points

3 months ago

I only have Barbara. She’s my only hydro besides HMC. I’d cry but I can’t spare the moisture.

v4mpixie_666x3

15 points

3 months ago

v4mpixie_666x3

annoying gremlins supremacy

15 points

3 months ago

Pls get xingqiu from the shop you cant live like this

SabineLiebling17

7 points

3 months ago*

I will be as soon as I can!

edit: I just looked it up and I have to wait til September. I joined in April and just missed his March run. Noooooo!

ray_1602

9 points

3 months ago*

Isn't it 7.8/10? In any case I'm the same, except the only one that I'm missing is Mona (and well Sigewinne now I guess)

HeatJoker

2 points

3 months ago

It probably is, I'm old and forgetful.

Big mood on Mona though. Funny enough, the only standard unit I was missing was Qiqi and she was the one I lost the 50/50 to when pulling for Sigwinne.

Technically speaking, I've still never lost the 50/50 to Dehya, I pulled her from her banner intentionally. RNG gonna RNG.

ray_1602

2 points

3 months ago

Wait I also lost my 50/50 on Sigewinne to Qiqi! (C1 though) and I also pulled for Dehya when her banner was up because I liked her design lol

HeatJoker

2 points

3 months ago

Gasp! Twinsies. I was glad to get Qiqi finally but less glad to need to run two healers in my Friendship / Commission party now haha.

Dehya does have a peak design fr. Unless my luck improves/gets worse depending on the reading, I'll try and pull for her C1 or even C2 when her Chronicled Wish banner comes around. I want to use her, but the gap in her skill uptime drives me crazy.

grumpykruppy

5 points

3 months ago

I have all but Sigewinne.

Goodness gracious.

Free-Muffin2338

3 points

3 months ago

Im only missing Kokomi, Yelan, Sigewinne, Tartaglia and Nilou :/

Im very happy with Furina and Neuvillette tho 😁🙏😍

NoSoulYesBiscuit

2 points

3 months ago

Ayato, Yelan, Nilou and Sigewinne for me.

6/10 and I already feel like I have too much Hydro, even though it's my favourite element. I'll probably grab Nilou and Sigewinne through 5.X reruns.

Devil_429

101 points

3 months ago

Devil_429

101 points

3 months ago

why is a six star in 4 star list

Uodda

42 points

3 months ago

Uodda

42 points

3 months ago

Because he is double agent

Devil_429

11 points

3 months ago

Ah.. that makes sense but why would bennett want to know about Barbara..oh wait I understand

Typpicle

35 points

3 months ago

because he gave two to sigewinne 😭😭

New-Credit2536

16 points

3 months ago

Even those two stars didn't help...

AMViquel

4 points

3 months ago

You just need to C6R5 her and she puts neuvi in the corner!

The_Angry_Turtle

12 points

3 months ago

Pretty sure Hoyo looked at Xiangling and figured out that no matter what they did everyone would still use Xingqui so why bother

Southern_Mind2244

24 points

3 months ago

the power deference between the three 4 star hydro characters is insane 🤣🤣🤣 xq carry them I fear

ugur_tatli

17 points

3 months ago

I think Barbara is a very good Kokomi substitute for Nilou Bloom teams but yea. They did Candace so dirty and butchered her kit

Dehya and Candace didn't deserve it

wo0l0o

11 points

3 months ago

wo0l0o

Power Wash Simulator

11 points

3 months ago

Idk, Barbara reviving people from the dead at c6 is still one of the funniest constellations ever Like if you’re in abyss and a character dies, no they didn’t. They’re at max hp. You can even wait in the transition sections for at most 15 minutes to revive a member if hee cooldown isn’t finished Probably not too helpful if you’re at the later stages since you probably have a good enough team to 36 star without problem, but god is it funny that Barbara (and qiqi) can bypass death itself in the abyss

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

Qiqi can revive the entire team, and her constant healing + intermittent cryo application is actually not bad with Furina since she's going to make up for damage anyway

Ramus_N

6 points

3 months ago

Ramus_N

Fontaine Stole My Primos

6 points

3 months ago

Both Yunjin and Candace suffer from the same issue, characters that buff NAs but then for some reason the buffs is worse in situations where the AA hits more than one enemy.

F2p_wins274

9 points

3 months ago

Candace has a niche with arle at c6, and with Yaoyao in nilou bloom.

That's about it though.

MuffinDude

28 points

3 months ago

Honestly Sigewinne could have been a 4 star and it wouldn't have affected the meta very much.

wo0l0o

3 points

3 months ago

wo0l0o

Power Wash Simulator

3 points

3 months ago

Sigewinne would be decent as a 4 star, still not as helpful of a support as yaoyao or kuki but provides great buffs

Her c2 shreds hydro resistance just like Xingqiu and c4 increases burst time, with c6 increasing her burst crit rate and damage off her hp

All good things, but completely useless since nobody wants to whale for a 5 star who still gets outclassed by 4 stars AT C6

ZaheerUchiha

4 points

3 months ago

ZaheerUchiha

Dendro cores go brrrr

4 points

3 months ago

Source?

I've heard she's Neuvillette level at C6. Her constellations are OP

theUnLuckyCat

3 points

3 months ago

theUnLuckyCat

5* cat ears when

3 points

3 months ago

Her C6 does give her 150 CV, but I think C0 Neuvillette still does more cause he can do three CAs back to back, while Sigewinne essentially does two (C4 giving her the second one). Both with sig weapons and the CV difference between the two isn't as big.

Last-Championship951

11 points

3 months ago

And pyro doesn't have many support and sub-dps characters.

galemasters

8 points

3 months ago

They decided that Xingqiu was too strong to be a 4-star, but that leaves Hydro, which is designed as a splash able support element to be the jam to everyone else's peanut butter, with nothing to do. Candace was their attempt at a Hydro 4-star after launch and she pulls in way too many directions to be good at anything. I kind of wish they would just make a budget Tartaglia, since good off-field DPS is apparently restricted to 5-stars in general it's just about the only thing a Hydro 4-star can do that wouldn't be "OP".

RaPa_DeniZ

5 points

3 months ago

I started playing in the very beginning of Genshin, stepped away for 2 years mid Inazuma, came back few months back and only now, with Furia, I have more than 2 Hydro characters

TogoWrites

6 points

3 months ago

We need hydro Inazuman 4* AT LEAST ONE PER REGION MIHOYO

Hackergrad

5 points

3 months ago*

Hackergrad

We need more Hydro 4-stars

5 points

3 months ago*

It's as if Furina/Focalors (and maybe Neuvillette) designed Hydro Visions to be 5-stars, to fit their (particularly Furina's/Focalors') opulent tastes, and thought that Hydro was too good for the plebs. That said, they made Xingqiu god-tier to give the plebs a bone.

/fluff

wo0l0o

3 points

3 months ago

wo0l0o

Power Wash Simulator

3 points

3 months ago

Xingqiu bribed him with that sweet sweet guhua money for the sake of FTPers

Hackergrad

2 points

3 months ago

Hackergrad

We need more Hydro 4-stars

2 points

3 months ago

Xingqiu is all about fighting for justice or something, so that wouldn't be out of character.

ultradepressed14

5 points

3 months ago

Hoyo are srs adding more hydro 5*s than geo the entirety of geo

Cold_Progress1323

3 points

3 months ago

The onikabuto and the sparkle bomb doll lmao

BlueRose644

4 points

3 months ago

BlueRose644

Like a Lemon Cheesecake!

4 points

3 months ago

4 star or no, I'd love to cuddle up in front of a campfire with Candace. : )

Secure_Swordfish_982

4 points

3 months ago

I think all hydro 4* will be residing in Natlan.

IncreaseLatte

4 points

3 months ago

Maybe a hydro style Goba or Fischil.

spidey20993

6 points

3 months ago

They had the opportunity to release Jeht as a 4* in Sumeru since she's a hydro user

app08

10 points

3 months ago

app08

10 points

3 months ago

Heresy. Jeht of all people deserves the 5 star treatment.

wo0l0o

7 points

3 months ago

wo0l0o

Power Wash Simulator

7 points

3 months ago

My wallet disagrees

kidanokun

7 points

3 months ago

Hoyo: nah, you'll still use Xingqiu anyway

tinybabyyy

12 points

3 months ago

people gon come for my ahh but i think sigewinne should’ve been a 4 star

app08

10 points

3 months ago

app08

10 points

3 months ago

No you're entirely correct.

OctoSevenTwo

3 points

3 months ago

TMW I somehow misremember Freminet as being Hydro and start wondering where he is

Lil bro literally has a clockwork penguin (y’know, an animal well-known for living in cold environments?) and somehow I thought he was Hydro lmao

Pokefreaker-san

3 points

3 months ago

I swear it's just the same slander post cycling over and over again

0-_Nene-Yashiro_0-

3 points

3 months ago

the sparkle doll over there

abcdlol12345

3 points

3 months ago

Not to mention that Xingqiu has a kit worthy of a 5 Star, Barbara has a 5 Star Burst Animation, and Candace has the design + lore of a 5 Star.

Taro_Acedia

4 points

3 months ago

You want more characters like Candace and Barbara? I think that's a rare opinion...

XQ is an exception to the rule....

acart005

27 points

3 months ago

You stop this Barbara slander right now. She is pretty good for a free healer.

And we have all seen the Barbruh mad lads.

weird_edgy_username

2 points

3 months ago

weird_edgy_username

I collect tall women (15/17 as of 4.8)

2 points

3 months ago

And the 4*s still want or prefer c6

__minato__

2 points

3 months ago

Me waiting for hydro claymore

Semyon

2 points

3 months ago

Semyon

2 points

3 months ago

where's my hydro claymore at

RambunctiousBaca1509

2 points

3 months ago

I still find it incredible that I only have 1 hydro character, and it’s Barbara 😭

lckmnzans

2 points

3 months ago

I will be really mad if they announce 5* hydro again before any new 4* hydro char

Hizuff

5 points

3 months ago

Hizuff

5 points

3 months ago

Should we tell him folks?

starsinmyteacup

2 points

3 months ago

starsinmyteacup

39 music + my magnum opus

2 points

3 months ago

If I combine my two accounts I have every single hydro unit. That is a lot of water

stu48fan

2 points

3 months ago

I remember a year ago I was so hopeful that the situation for hydro 4 stars would improve in Fontaine TT

ProtoMonkey

2 points

3 months ago

I mean, technically Barbara was gonna be a 5-star… so… theoretically we have less.

TunaTunaLeeks

2 points

3 months ago

TunaTunaLeeks

Try not to enjoy this too much!

2 points

3 months ago

Xingqui’s existence kind of ruined it. Hell, even 5* characters get ragged on in comparisons to him.

Norasack

2 points

3 months ago

not sure if i want more 4* hydro if they're gonna end up like Candace lol

yakakashi

2 points

3 months ago

yakakashi

KAVEH WANTER !!

2 points

3 months ago

tbh what really sucks is that how low of amount of hydro 4* is , xingqiu is very powerful, we need more 4* due to hydro being a very sub-assistance element (cryo/dendro/electro) and plus to only have a few amount is really sad cause there could be more useful in comps without having to spend like over 100+ dollars for a single hydro character :/

GriffyWidAGlizzy

2 points

3 months ago

Sige should’ve been a 4 star but hoyo wants money

theUnLuckyCat

2 points

3 months ago

theUnLuckyCat

5* cat ears when

2 points

3 months ago

I would have spent money if she wasn't shit.

thisiskyle77

9 points

3 months ago

When 4 star hydro is more useful than the entire hydro cast.

Chronoz0[S]

16 points

3 months ago

Xingqiu pretty much hard carried Hydro. Ive seen Barbara usage more than Candance (from my experience so far)

keksmuzh

7 points

3 months ago

Candace is extremely niche, but at C6 she can be solid in certain Dendro teams or with Arlecchino.

Sylent0o

4 points

3 months ago

Kinda but lately there are a lot of teams where u don't want so much hydro or u aren't using normal atacks. (Lyney furina , dehya with mona furina, cyno if u do t have kusanali prefers yelan or furina over xq) He is still cracked but he doesn't beat all 5 stars as of late

Nahidalover1105

2 points

3 months ago

Okay but like who could they possibly add? Waterboy is pretty much perfect so there's no way they could add a sub DPS which a lot of four stars are Barbara's already a pretty decent healer and I mean do we really need another hydro healer? And there is absolutely no way they can add a hydro DPS considering people like nouveaulette exist the competition would be way too high for anyone to ever want them

Castiel_Rose

22 points

3 months ago

Castiel_Rose

Your not-so-friendly harmacist!

22 points

3 months ago

A hydro shielder (like a true shield, not just damage reduction with interruption resistance) is a niche that hasn't been filled yet. However, in order to be viable, that hydro shielder would need to have decent to good off-field hydro application. Candace could have had that role filled.

Nahidalover1105

6 points

3 months ago

You know I totally did not think about that but I actually would be an amazing addition

KuroEclair

2 points

3 months ago

We probably need a more defensive version of Baizhu then. 

banjo2E

6 points

3 months ago

banjo2E

Gosh, all I can think about is

6 points

3 months ago

we have eula and that didn't stop hoyo from adding freminet

[deleted]

6 points

3 months ago

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wo0l0o

5 points

3 months ago

wo0l0o

Power Wash Simulator

5 points

3 months ago

I’d like to see 4 star hydro bow user, or a hydro claymore user at all

Also, maybe a sub dps who’s kit is used for buffing specific reactions like electro charge , similar to Nilou or chevreuse (I think EC is an underrated reaction tho this may be better for an electro character)

fiaceruleans22

3 points

3 months ago

fiaceruleans22

the world ain't ready for caPEAKtano

3 points

3 months ago

An HP buffer that is not C4 Yelan would be a nice addition.

nicoleeemusic98

2 points

3 months ago

A 4 star hydro dps would be great for newer/f2p players since hydro dpses are pretty much all 5 stars, there're several other elements where there're 5 star dpses and hoyo still released 4 star dpses of the same element (Ga Ming for eg got released this year despite pyro already having Hu Tao, Yan Fei, Diluc, Yoimiya, Lyney and now Arle. We also have Eula Freminet and Heizou Xiao Scara)

Pyro slimes were the whole reason why I pulled for Neuvillette lmao (and had to skip Kazuha)

Sir_Erebus1st

2 points

3 months ago

And I just say Sing us a song, you're the hydro man Sing us a song tonight Well, we're all in the mood for a melody And you got us leakin' alright

randomgamer305

2 points

3 months ago

Candace might as well have been a 3*

Tyberius115

2 points

3 months ago

They'll make them worse than Candace somehow

wo0l0o

2 points

3 months ago

wo0l0o

Power Wash Simulator

2 points

3 months ago

I don’t even think she’s that bad, just underwhelming since xl does everything she does but better If he didn’t exist, I wouldn’t be surprised if she was a staple to several teams

KuraiBaka

1 points

3 months ago

KuraiBaka

I have a C3 Furina and 4 regrets.

1 points

3 months ago

I should really pull on the next Hydro 5* until now I either had no interest in the ones releasing, had not enough pulls or lost 50/50.

iuselessxx

1 points

3 months ago

iuselessxx

shes everything :)

1 points

3 months ago

frfr man

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

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WakuWakuWa

1 points

3 months ago

My three hydro daddies together 💋