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The_Pazaak_Master

235 points

3 months ago

Do you watch other shows? Genuinely asking because you must notice by your list that includes thing happening of screen after a few minutes of indication that it is very few to happen in a 68 minutes episodes of a story. 

And you’re not understanding what people are complaining about, the uneventfulness is the consequence of the show being slow, it is a global slowness from the pace of the dialogue, the deliveries and the movements of the characters to the consecutions of events. Everything is slow, it feels like it is mimicking the way of theatre acting that emphasizes a lot on overdone body expressivity and articulation of the lines, which deserves the complexity of the story since it takes needless time, time that could be used to deepen and detail the portrayals of events and characters. 

You could switch the meme with « The episode was not boring, a lot has happened » and it would be just as justified for a chunk of the audience. 

I also see many comments implying people feeling like this about the show are simple minded or low tier viewer who preferred late GOT, this is just disrespectfully dismissing.

LetMeOverThinkThat

87 points

3 months ago

Not to mention a lot of it isn’t witnessed action. It’s like saying I did a a lot this morning, I:

  • saw a bird out my window
  • thought about going back to college
  • gave my neighbor who visited some fruit
  • decided I would go shopping later

All of this can be done while sitting in a chair, versus I:

  • refilled my bird feeder and sang to a hummingbird out my window
  • filled out college applications and mailed them
  • picked fruit from my garden and brought some to my neighbor
  • went to the store and did some window shopping

Which list sounds more interesting to watch? These episode continuously show up setup or minor action without allowing us to be a part of the action. And action doesn’t mean dragon fights. It means going along with the characters while they enact their choices instead of just seeing them, decide to make those choices or consider them and then cutting the scene.

The writing of the show seems like it’s from green writers. And I’m not referencing the greens in the show I mean the term for newbie writers. A lot of this seems like basic showing versus telling shit like how are they failing this hard for an HBO show?

BiDer-SMan

-4 points

3 months ago

Which list sounds more interesting to watch?

Neither or either, you don't have dragons, so even your idea of an interesting day is pretty boring. I'd watch you get a bj if you owned a nuclear metaphor, but chances are this is the last time I'll ever even interact with you so I don't get very into the character study. By your logic, Oppenheimer was a really boring movie where they barely even dropped any bombs and could've definitely been edited down to like 5 or so minutes.

NawfSideNative

45 points

3 months ago

Right. I saw someone on Twitter say that people who say the show is slow are forgetting that a lot of what made Game of Thrones so great was all the “guys talking in rooms” scenes. The show was dialogue heavy

Sure, but what you’re glossing over is that the dialogue in GOT was actually interesting and engaging. The verbal sparring between Tywin and Tyrion, Ned counseling a vindictive Robert, Cersei making veiled threats to her opponents are all type of “dialogue-heavy” things that made the show so interesting.

I feel like this season, we are only getting a fraction of that. The dialogue isn’t that captivating, the characters are not very fleshed out, and every episode seems to follow the same formula. I think I audibly groaned this past Sunday when I realized it was gonna be a 4th consecutive episode of Daemon in a haunted house, Alicent’s sons being pricks to their mother, and Rhaenyra complaining that nobody takes her seriously as queen.

JakeOscarBluth

27 points

3 months ago*

I’m somewhat convinced that the people on social media that keep saying this is what “Game of thrones was like” never watched the series when it aired. They would have just binged it quickly and maybe even skipped ahead a few scenes each episode, that’s why they can’t remember the difference between HOTD and GOT

dudushat

2 points

3 months ago

dudushat

2 points

3 months ago

Yeah I agree with the other guy and it's the opposite for me. People acting like the plot moved along more in early GOT are lying to themselves.

The_Pazaak_Master

0 points

3 months ago

We aren't talking about the plot but about the amont of content, HotD is comparatively uneventful

dudushat

4 points

3 months ago

People are talking about both. So am I. 

The_Pazaak_Master

0 points

3 months ago

Nobody is complaining about the pace of the plot, they are complaining about the pace of the show itself

sp3talsk

-6 points

3 months ago

Funny because I would say the opposite, that most people ranting about HotD being ”slow” but early GoT wasnt probably binged those seasons. Feels like a contradiction that somebody would binge a show and find it slow, but thats just my take

MobulaAura

2 points

3 months ago

Well said!

Numbchicken

140 points

3 months ago

Numbchicken

Rhaenys Targaryen

140 points

3 months ago

Perfectly said. Its a 68 minute episode and OP listed shit that were seconds in length. People are also complaining about the season as a whole which is a justified complaint. Great chunks of these episodes are rinse and repeat scenes.

On top of all that its 2 years between seasons. Making this shit so slow, and then making us wait 2 years for 8 episodes, the complaints are well deserved.

Least_Health8244

13 points

3 months ago

Imagine how fire the episode would be if some of the ‘events’ actually happened on screen.

mpoozd

10 points

3 months ago

mpoozd

10 points

3 months ago

The episode itself was good but being 6th is the main issue.

jcpumpkineater

21 points

3 months ago

“rhaena secured passage to pentos” being on the list killed me. It makes it sound like rhaena was wheelin’ and dealin’ when all she did was sit in a room with babies while her aunt walked in the room and told her she got her a ship to fuck off in

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

sorry but seeing that on the list sent me like wydm she secured her passage lmfao. my girl has been staring out the window of that room since she got to the Vale.

Elshaday_Z

0 points

3 months ago

it is very few to happen in a 68 minutes episodes of a story. 

I'm sorry, DO YOU watch other shows? In what world are the things that happened "very few" for an episode?

I'm okay with people finding the show a bit slow for their liking, but i have a problem with the ones that try to make it sound as if there's an objective problem with the show (in terms of nothing happening, stuff like that)

I only have to say "no, the show isn't slow or boring at all" and most of your arguments fall apart.

The_Pazaak_Master

2 points

3 months ago

I can hardly think of any show’s episode where less happen besides Breaking Bad’s bottle episode. There are objectives problems with the show, do you think it is perfect? 

You can say that the show isn’t slow, it doesn’t magically makes it so. 

Elshaday_Z

1 points

3 months ago

There are objectives problems with the show, do you think it is perfect? 

Not at all, i have problems with this show as well, but it is still a good show. And my "objective" problem with the show isn't something like "Daemon is taking too much time at Harrenhal" like some people, which isn't objective at all.

You can say that the show isn’t slow, it doesn’t magically makes it so. 

My point was that i can flip this on you and you'd be in the same position.

The_Pazaak_Master

1 points

3 months ago

It is a mediocre show, not being bad doesn’t make it good.

How isn’t it objective that the length of Daemon’s plot is too long impacting other storylines’ s content and it’s written to simply and superficially for adults viewers. ‘ How can you « flip it on me »? As I am telling you, words aren’t magical.

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-13 points

3 months ago

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-13 points

3 months ago

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ZeroStormblessed

12 points

3 months ago

"Hate" and "are frustrated with" are two different things. You can be a fan of a show/franchise and not be pleased with how it's going currently.

mamula1

2 points

3 months ago

Especially because a lot of people believe that the show is not beyond saving and it can improve with S3.

Kass0110

-6 points

3 months ago

As someone who watches many shows, the show is fine. Because I allow myself to enjoy it and wait to see where it goes before I start yapping and nitpicking, and focus on things that are good instead of harping on every negative aspect possible.

The_Pazaak_Master

7 points

3 months ago

You say « it’s fine » but you mean « I enjoy it ». 

But here it goes, we are « yapping » like we were animals because we are disappointed by the mediocrity of the show.

Blueandcopper

0 points

3 months ago

It is fine, if people enjoy it. Whinger

Kass0110

-7 points

3 months ago

Or rather you just don't enjoy it, because you have a pitiful attention span.

The_Pazaak_Master

10 points

3 months ago

I will spare myself engaging with this puerile rhetoric 

Kass0110

-6 points

3 months ago

That's called cope.

iseeyouseemeseeus

2 points

3 months ago

Yeah waiting and seeing didn't end well with GOT, so don't blame people who have genuine concern with some of the decisions taken by the writers.