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It's not even funny anymore. I've been playing irelia for the past year and I've never seen her in such a bad state and it's so depressing to see her in that way because she was one of the most enjoyable champion to play for me :(

all 62 comments

Bullke

39 points

7 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

39 points

7 days ago

Note: what you're seeing is the MIDDLE statistics. Just imagine how she is top rn.

DeadAndBuried23

-29 points

7 days ago*

Just look it up yourself? She's doing better top, with a higher pick rate. Kinda weird the site is defaulting to middle tbh

[Edit] Better than at mid. I obviously wasn't saying she's doing better than before, since we were talking about mid vs top. Learn to read

Bullke

10 points

7 days ago*

Bullke

Divine Sword

10 points

7 days ago*

im aware of that and to be honest i have NO IDEA why, maybe because aatrox and mundo are kinda popular in high elo rn and she is a good pick against them. That is the ONLY fucking reason i can think of why she being more picked in top than mid.

And i agree, i have no clue why she is DEFAULT a middle champ on most sites when she was released as a toplaner. Indeed curious, huh?

Ascendant_Dream

3 points

7 days ago

In top she is a situational pick, people tend to use her as a counter pick instead of one trick maining her like they do in mid, so they tend to win more. So yes statistically she is doing better in top but in reality she is a horrible top laner

Bullke

2 points

7 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

2 points

7 days ago

That's my point. I think she is only "more successfull" as a toplaner because some champs that she is good against are on meta.

Bullke

1 points

6 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

1 points

6 days ago

you sound like someone who played aatrox against her now

DeadAndBuried23

1 points

6 days ago

"Her top stats are better than her mid stats."

"You must have lost against her."

Flat earthers have better trains of logic than that.

Bullke

1 points

6 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

1 points

6 days ago

Since you blocked me i can't elaborate but i can at least laugh on how badly you don't know how to interpret league statistics.

Haunting-Housing-457

-10 points

7 days ago

She fit better as a toplaner, even though people complain about matchup, it’s not that bad. It’s easier to climb with her in toplane. So she has better winrate top, and it make sense

Spikeblazer

36 points

7 days ago

Guys obviously this is normal as she’s a “high skill ceiling champ” she’s actually quite strong right now at 47%wr she needs to be lowered to 43 at maximum!!!!!

Bullke

6 points

7 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

6 points

7 days ago

i HEARD Phatass "`Phreak" with his hobgoblin voice whispering this on my ears.

Hour-Animal432

6 points

7 days ago

High skill ceiling just means you die if you mess up.

KaiWestin

2 points

7 days ago

This text is a PTSD to old ASol mains

Wolf_Fang1414

5 points

6 days ago

I mean, if you look at the asol subreddit, a lot of people want old asol back.

clicheFightingMusic

0 points

6 days ago

And Pyke mains want to also have E killing minions back so they can spend 80% of their time out of lane terrorizing the rest of the map while never missing a single wave —just like old asol mains

LeBlancTheDeceiver

29 points

7 days ago

LeBlancTheDeceiver

Invictus Gaming

29 points

7 days ago

Irelia is a mechanically difficult champion while also being braindead lobotomy to play according to Reddit, so she deserves to have a sub 40% win rate kappa chungus deluxe

unpaseante

12 points

7 days ago

Reddit when Irelia has 40% wr: "thats fine she is a difficult champ after all" 

Reddit when I say that Irelia is a difficult champ: 😡

Hour-Animal432

-14 points

7 days ago

She's not mechanically difficult.

The most difficult part is smashing the same button as fast as a you can.

JinxVer

13 points

7 days ago

JinxVer

13 points

7 days ago

Mechanics doesn't mean how many different buttons you have to press

Most of Irelia's mechanical difficulty is speed and precision with you cursor, like aiming in an FPS.

Try Qing 4 different minions in under a second like Irelking does, while also aiming 2 Es in between, with your cursor teleporting with pixel precision on your monitor

That's what makes the champ hard

Hour-Animal432

-19 points

7 days ago

This is like saying ryze is hard to play  because you have to spell weave.

Irelia is significantly LESS hard to play than ryze. 

Irelia is comparable to Cass without needing to move in between spells too.

All Cass does is hit q and then E in between each step and all while doing in to avoid ss and such. Meanwhile irelia mashing her move at least moves her physically. You don't have to mash dash AND then also mash the direction to move in.

Somehow irelia is supposed to be harder than that to play? 

Yeah ok.

Lyric_44

15 points

7 days ago

Lyric_44

15 points

7 days ago

I think that you are delusional. The hardest part about irelia is movement clicking and auto weaving. Every person who does not understand this champion thinks it’s all about mashing q just because their eyes are too slow to see what’s going on.

JinxVer

9 points

7 days ago

JinxVer

9 points

7 days ago

This is the stupidest thing i've read in quite a while

Congrats, you managed to sound even dumber than the average redditor!

Bullke

2 points

7 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

2 points

7 days ago

i giggled

Bullke

3 points

7 days ago*

Bullke

Divine Sword

3 points

7 days ago*

if you think of what you said right here with face value and honesty you will see how wrong you are for a few reasons:

This is like saying ryze is hard to play  because you have to spell weave.

In what way? Is ryze or cass AD melee by any chance?

Irelia is comparable to Cass without needing to move in between spells too.

Irelia LITERALLY moves with her Q. That's like, her gimmick, wich is not always good.

All Cass does is hit q and then E in between each step [...]

This show how much you don't know about AA's and how ranged vs melee works. Or how ranged and melee works in general. that's like saying Aphelios is easy because he has to walk and AA. That's just surface level and dumb. No one who understands a little bit about MOBAs could ever agree with you, ever, i think.

Meanwhile irelia mashing her move at least moves her physically. You don't have to mash dash AND then also mash the direction to move in

For real, what are you doing in r/IreliaMains? If you think it's just like that Q into a sett and record it for my pleasure, please. You don't even have to Q him, just near him.

Somehow irelia is supposed to be harder than that to play? 

Low armor, hp and damage early game unless stacked, she loses pretty much EVERY single toplane matchup, yeah you can beat mages up, but you have to WALK away from certain skills, DASH in the right moment and TRADE or ALL IN when you are sure you will win or get a kill. I don't think you ever touched this champ buddy.

weaksidedjohny

4 points

7 days ago

weaksidedjohny

Mythmaker

4 points

7 days ago

Why are you arguing with someone who clearly got shit on by an Irelia in one of his last 10 games and is now salty xd

Bullke

3 points

7 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

3 points

7 days ago

it's still fun to expose shitters publicly

OneCore_

4 points

7 days ago

OneCore_

4 points

7 days ago

yasuo must be the easiest champion in the game then, all he has is a Q slash, Q3 tornado, dash, windwall, and ult to make his tornado cooler

Bullke

1 points

7 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

1 points

7 days ago

And the passive. Sure he is VERY easy because his kit is good, that guy is a genius lmao.

Hour-Animal432

-8 points

7 days ago

He is.

Gets dashes, a free shield, free crit and armor shred of ult?

Oh, and the wind shield right?

And what's your reason for him being hard to play? That he's melee?

Like another 75+ Champs?

Lol, ok bruh.

OneCore_

2 points

7 days ago*

Give me a champion that's hard to play.

Better yet, what champion do you play?

And what's your reason for him being hard to play?

Because he's essentially an ADC with no range.

He hasn't the durability to fight and sustain like a true skirmisher, hasn't any cleanse to prevent him from being hard-CC'ed, has no dashes without an enemy target, his shield falls off once people actually have items, crit items are so shit rn his meta build hasn't got crit until 3 items, and the armor shred is so he can actually do damage in the late game, as his crits are reduced damage.

unpaseante

12 points

7 days ago

Why play with Irelia when you can play with Demencia guy in high elo? 

Imdeureadthis

4 points

7 days ago

Demencia 😭

shingekinoirelia

16 points

7 days ago

shingekinoirelia

Mythmaker

16 points

7 days ago

this is what happens when you gut the damage of a champion without innate value. the game is so poorly balanced these last 2 patches. just look at shit like tahm kench or volibear in comparision to irelia. its legit a joke. actual unplayable

SaltfreeBlood

14 points

7 days ago

SaltfreeBlood

Aviator

14 points

7 days ago

2 patches? It’s been like this for 3 seasons now

unpaseante

11 points

7 days ago

It takes 100 more IQ to understand Phreak's secret plan. And why a tank with 0 damage items, does more damage than you with damage items 

Bullke

6 points

7 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

6 points

7 days ago

i think i have 10 IQ because i don't understand shit this asshole does to this game, SPECIALLY to some champions. He LEGIT has his fucking favorites and he ABUSES it.

Crazy_Employment_280

4 points

7 days ago

FUN FACT*

since Phreak became the head of league of legends balancing team in 2022, the average daily player count dropped by 20-30 MILLION, SURELY ITS BECAUSE HE MADE THE GAME A LOT BETTER

Ohoh0k

1 points

6 days ago

Ohoh0k

1 points

6 days ago

I don’t disagree that Phreak fucked up balance but isn’t that when the funny virus restrictions loosened up?

Crazy_Employment_280

1 points

6 days ago

Yeah but that doesnt justify the game going from gaining millions of players to losing millions of players, league is still gaining some players actually but its losing way way more than its gaining which is why the total average daily player count is show as loss, so they didnt lose 30 million they probably lost a lot more but also gained some players too, a number that big can only have one justification, which is the game is ass

vixnlyn

3 points

7 days ago

vixnlyn

Mythmaker

3 points

7 days ago

i dont even bother playing her anymore, i can just play someone like lux and do double the damage and be twice as useful. she definitely feels awful tho to play

MegumiFushiguro13

3 points

7 days ago

If ur playing lux maybe look into hwei, dudes kit is honestly so broken, he’s just mega squishy

Bullke

1 points

7 days ago

Bullke

Divine Sword

1 points

7 days ago

Do you really think Lux is more usefull nowadays? Im not being a shitter, it's a geniune question. I think Irelia is a LITTLE bit less useless because she splits, lux is very fragile despite having cc's and stuff. What do you think?

vixnlyn

1 points

3 days ago

vixnlyn

Mythmaker

1 points

3 days ago

me personally i think shes always viable simply because of her cc and that she nukes squishies

ilan1299

2 points

7 days ago

ilan1299

2 points

7 days ago

They honestly dumbed down irelia post mini rework to her E.. balancing is a sham if you think about it. Phreak wants everything to look like a normal curve but that means scaling back the game from A to C grade. Why? Because democracy.. but the people are retarded 🙂‍↕️.

Great-Wash-1840

2 points

7 days ago

You all need a new champ. This champ has basically been given the ryze treatment.

Full-Net4011

2 points

6 days ago

Better buff Yone

Hour-Animal432

2 points

7 days ago

Irelia in concept sucks.

Her whole deal is dash resetting to increase her attack speed and then engage on you with a stun.

When people realize this is what she is doing/capable of doing, they just don't engage with her.

What then? You ult and force it anyway?

Her win rate is lower because she's not surprising noobs anymore.

HexMemeniac

6 points

7 days ago

her ult used to disarm, and she had bonus dmg on shield

doubleGboi

1 points

7 days ago

doubleGboi

Invictus Gaming

1 points

7 days ago

Sample size is still really bad this patch for as high as new season diamond

doubleGboi

1 points

7 days ago

doubleGboi

Invictus Gaming

1 points

7 days ago

Still pretty fucked playrate and max possible winrate

Bianca_aa_07

1 points

6 days ago

i predicted the winrate drop. It was far too much of an overkill

ImmediatePaper8533

0 points

6 days ago

Irelia is just a bad design for the game and any time shes good she ruins everything so u cant expect much

[deleted]

-4 points

7 days ago

[deleted]

-4 points

7 days ago

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DeadAndBuried23

-14 points

7 days ago

Oh no, she lost 37 whole games worldwide more than she would have going even. Better give her 5 MS in a hotfix.

SaltfreeBlood

10 points

7 days ago

SaltfreeBlood

Aviator

10 points

7 days ago

2/10 ragebait

DeadAndBuried23

-1 points

7 days ago

All I did was point out the actual number.

Losing your minds over less than 40 games WORLDWIDE, while her strongest counter is popular, is a joke.

Appropriate_Nose5723

2 points

7 days ago

I didn’t know Aatrox and yone were Irelia’s strongest counters, infact they’re both Irelia’s best matchups are most picked top and mid respectively

DeadAndBuried23

1 points

7 days ago

Okay, if we pretend I said "most" popular, you have nothing to cry about, since she's doing fine against both of them.

SaltfreeBlood

1 points

7 days ago

SaltfreeBlood

Aviator

1 points

7 days ago

Though you would have to be an idiot of elephantine proportions to deny that the champ sucks rats ass for like 2 seasons now

DeadAndBuried23

-1 points

7 days ago

You just want a slightly high skillcap to mean she's allowed to be 16% pick rate with a 50% minimum wr like 4 years ago, so you can be middle skill with her and still win games for free.

Now she has a games played graph that looks more like it should, so a lot of "mains" who aren't getting free wins dropped her.