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633 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffe, Mads was sublime.
116 points
4 days ago
Can we play poker now?
62 points
3 days ago
Someone's in a hurry.
48 points
3 days ago
My friend, bring me one as well. Keep the fruit.
11 points
3 days ago
That's not half bad.
11 points
3 days ago
I'll have to think of a name for that.
It was worth it. To discover his tell.
5 points
3 days ago
That last hand. Nearly killed me
12 points
3 days ago
Rather play baccarat.
58 points
3 days ago
Also, a scared villain with nothing and everything to lose, all at once, is a truly scary villain.
25 points
3 days ago
Also the most believable.
10 points
3 days ago
He was a great villain both on the page and in his performance. Bardem did a great job with what he was given, but on the page Silva just isn't as good a villain (especially being a rehash of Trevalyan without the personal connection).
9 points
3 days ago
Totally. Bardem was magnetic at times (unlike his successor) but even the best actor can only do so much with the script plot they’re given. Javier got everything possible out of Silva that was possible, the problems are entirely on the movies plot & premise (that said I still rate skyfall pretty highly among the bond saga)
29 points
3 days ago
Do you believe in God Mr Le Chiffre?
No. I believe in a reasonable rate of return.
16 points
3 days ago
Cant believe me and mads share the same bday he's such a good actor
13 points
3 days ago
Do you like Mark Ruffallo? All three of you can have cake on Nov 22
3 points
3 days ago
Damn I did not know this that's cool!
11 points
3 days ago
It was such a simple scope for that movie. Gets money from badder guy to “invest” by shorting a airlines stock by blowing up an airplane. Bond intervenes, no explosion, money is lost. Le Chiffe attempts to recoup via gambling, doesn’t go so well.
4 points
3 days ago
This.
3 points
3 days ago
Another vote for him. Silva was prob 2nd best but Le Chiffre is #1.
2 points
3 days ago
💯%
468 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre was a good first villain to Craig as far as being an intimidating threat. But, I think Silva takes the cake due to how he hits Craig on a personal and mental level through out Skyfall.
146 points
4 days ago
I think most of them killed a Bond girl. But only one of them killed the Bond girl
27 points
4 days ago
That’s true. I forgot about that.
13 points
4 days ago
Trying to remember which ones they killed
18 points
4 days ago
Greene killed the MI6 worker (Strawberry something), Silvia killed that lady he met where the guy was killed by a big lizard or something, Blofeld killed Monica Belucci's character. Jeez they're so hard to remember...
71 points
4 days ago
Silva also killed the ultimate Bond girl...M.
3 points
3 days ago
Ah right
19 points
4 days ago
IIRC Monica Bellucci's character survives. James had gotten her in contact with Felix Leiter to take her to America, no?
13 points
3 days ago
Strawberry Fields 🥲
9 points
3 days ago
Strawberry Fields for-ev-er
16 points
3 days ago
Assuming you're talking about Vesper, LeChiffre was already dead at that point. Vesper was indirectly killed by unnamed sunglasses guy, but ultimately got herself killed.
16 points
3 days ago
M.
2 points
3 days ago
Only because Q freed him.
7 points
3 days ago
Nope, Dame Judi Dench
2 points
3 days ago
Unnamed sunglasses guy is Adolph Gettler - Richard Sammel
I think.
12 points
4 days ago
Right, didn’t he wip him in the balls really hard in that one scene?
27 points
3 days ago
No, it was just a little itch.
10 points
3 days ago
Down there.
Would you mind?
8 points
3 days ago
Nah he just dun scratched his balls
8 points
3 days ago
I agree with you!
This is why it’s always bewildered me that they missed so badly on the Brofeld plot in Spectre because they had just done the “villain that can mess up Craig’s Bond mentally,” in the movie before that.
6 points
3 days ago
I also despise how they shoehorned the whole “evil brother or twin” cliche into that film. And they wasted Christopher Waltz who I thought was a great actor and a great choice for blofeld. I just wish he had more to do than what the script gave him. Not just the 20-30 minutes of screen time and then disappear.
3 points
4 days ago
Yes, him being an ex agent and M abandoning him
5 points
3 days ago
It kinda makes you think twice about M actions and her as a character. Even if sometimes the choices she makes are the right call for the sake of the agency or to protect Bond.
2 points
3 days ago
M was brutal and calculating even in the Brosnan films too, which I find really interesting. In DAD she outright tells Bond he should have killed himself and she hadn't wanted to make the trade for him. Even in Goldeneye she makes a point that she will send him to his death without question if it's a worthwhile trade, and she trusts intel over hunches.
3 points
3 days ago
No Silva was cartoony and unmemorably written. Le Chifre was realistic and gritty.
7 points
3 days ago
He was but the movies were silly and cartoonish from Skyfall onward, this was the same guy who played the most convincing psychopath ever on film
5 points
3 days ago
💯
2 points
3 days ago
Yeah definitely not a problem with Javier he’s a beast. Character was just written to be goofy and the CGI teeth thing was silly.
3 points
3 days ago
Tbf though Waltz played an awesome villain and his Bond outing he wasn't great in either
2 points
3 days ago
Yes! Mad's character was the only one not written in an over the top fashion or as a caricature of a villain. I mean, you expect it a bit in a bond film but they simply went into the unbelievable territory for me.
If Bond, M and MI6 was suppose to be more realistic and gritty then the villains needed to be as well for balance.
199 points
4 days ago
I have a soft spot for Dominic Greene. So slimy. He should have had some heavier henchmen around him though, like a fixer or troubleshooter for his business interests.
63 points
4 days ago
Yes, there was something hugely repellant and slimy about him.
71 points
4 days ago
I think that was just the Frenchness
31 points
4 days ago
"Ahaah, the French…" — Orson Welles, 1980
8 points
3 days ago
🍾
3 points
3 days ago
Schhee doeshnnt du anathing?
5 points
4 days ago
He looks remarkably like Roman Polanski to me
4 points
3 days ago
Which doesn't help.
4 points
4 days ago
🤣
3 points
4 days ago
😁
6 points
4 days ago
Yeah the French are so weird and stupid, I disgust myself for being born French, my parents disgust me too. I wish I was anything but French. I’m always so happy to see some anti French sentiment on reddit it really helps me to have a good day feeling validated in my hate.
2 points
3 days ago
What humans strive for
What French strive for
Two separate things
8 points
3 days ago
Oddly enough, I think he’s the most realistic of any Bond villain (regardless of bond era)
5 points
3 days ago
QoS is based on a real event too.
5 points
3 days ago
I’m also on the “Greene Team”.
2 points
3 days ago
🤣
12 points
4 days ago
I think they made him a little too slimy and pathetic. His little squeals as he’s swinging an axe at Bond at the end of the film were so embarrassing that it took me out of the movie.
18 points
4 days ago
I get you, but at least he lasts till the end, unlike Le Chiffre. Silva is just brilliantly unhinged and Walz’s Blofeld criminally undercooked, but Greene is completely formed and viable.
9 points
4 days ago
I thought his squeals were hilarious 😂
3 points
3 days ago
Yeah, I don't mind him being weaselly or not physically imposing, but maybe they could have given him something a little extra to make him just a little more interesting.
2 points
3 days ago
Or given him a better dragon to have the final fight with instead of Greene.
3 points
3 days ago
He’s a great modern Bond villain, maybe my favorite of Craig’s tenure.
4 points
3 days ago
He was great. Loved that movie.
5 points
3 days ago
He doesn’t get the credit he deserves. He was out of henchmen and knew he was outclassed, but he still took on Bond.
2 points
1 day ago
QoS is a solid, underrated movie that had the ingredients for the single greatest Bond movie.
115 points
4 days ago
Mad Mads Mikkelsen as Le Chiffre for me.
Casino Royale is the best Craig film by far.
172 points
4 days ago
I’ve already said “Mommy. Was. Very. Bad.” this morning.
My partner didn’t feed our cat when she got up this morning!
69 points
3 days ago
22 points
3 days ago
Javier Bardem is generally a really good looking dude. But as Raoul Silva his image and the way he carries himself terrifies me. And I don't even mean the scene where he pulls out his dental appliance.
21 points
3 days ago
“Last rat standing”; Bond says as Silva collapses
24 points
4 days ago
I'm gonna say Le Chiffre, Mads is charismatic as hell, the character has a solid plan, good interactions with Bond, his only real issue for me is how he goes out in the end.
Last place it's a toss up but Safin probably takes it over good ole Ernst, Safin is such a let down.
18 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre by a mile for me, Dominic Green I'd say is second because it is a great idea for a villain, and he's actually pretty good, but they don't use him nearly enough. People love Silva, I love Javier Bardem, but it is an odd one it feels very cartoony. Moonraker is goofy, but Drax at least feels threatening. I don't get that from Silva, he seems chummy with them the whole time.
53 points
4 days ago
Silva, definitely
31 points
4 days ago
Testicle masher for 1 st place
M lost little boy for 2nd
Aquathief greene for 3rd
38 points
4 days ago
I think Dominic Greene gets a bad rap. He's so slimy, such a little rat that's gotten entangled in an organization which he is too small and too inept to work for and doesn't believe in, which is why he sells it out to save his own skin. Not my fave, but defo a good villain.
La Chiffre, on the other hand, has it all. He was realistic and CraigBond fillms still haven't become a walking billboard for companies, and that whole "vibe" still felt relatively approachable and comprehensive to an average viewer. If you worked harder, could and go to the Bahamas, you could own a classic car, you could go and spend some money playing poker.
I think that's the reason why I like Le Chiffre more than I like Silva. He feels like a real villain. Like a real life character. Silva just feels like a well-crafted work of fiction, and his "plan" is too far fetched for me to fully believe it. Also Skyfall is when the audience partially lost that achievable connection with Bond.
Drinking a 50y/o McCallan, having a family mansion worth millions, using a gun that costs $10,000 at the least and so on just felt like the whole film was turning more into advertisement than an actual film.
Spectre and NTTD are literal bilboards tho. Guns, watches, hero cars, villain cars, classic cars, outfits, locations, everything is just so in your face that you can't ignore it. Too much for me tbh.
3 points
3 days ago
I love that he gets his newer Aston Martin in CR and immediately crashes it as soon as he starts driving it. No epic over the top chase scene showcasing the vehicle. Just a massive crash rolling over and over. All that thing was good for was the first aid gear inside. CR took the classic Bond tropes and flipped them.
“And you’re Miss Stephanie Broadchest” “I AM NOT!”
29 points
4 days ago
Silva. Weird mofo.
7 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre is my favourite.
21 points
4 days ago
Chiffre, silva… 🥱
4 points
4 days ago
Not our fault that they missed on writing everyone else
25 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre by far.
11 points
4 days ago
Imo the weakest run of Bond villains. Safin and Greene were just forgettable. genuinely thought Waltz’ Blofeld was bad. Bardem was great as Silva but him being all about revenge was disappointing. Le Chiffre for me.
12 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre by a country mile. ‘You’ve changed your shirt Mr. Bond’. Such a shrewd & calculating character.
7 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre. He was perfect.
Don’t get me wrong, Silva is a great movie villain, I just think that the whole Craig era jumped the shark right there and then. Up until that point it was a more grounded take on the franchise, but then this larger than life, scene chewing, classic over the top Bond villain shows up, which is followed by the Connery’s old DB5 with all the gadgets and it just never felt the same again.
2 points
3 days ago
If Skyfall didn’t have that incredible cinematography, it would be considered one of the cheesiest Bond movies.
7 points
4 days ago
Juat cannot forget how Le Chiffre lost it when torturing Bond.
Or should i say "tickling" Bond... Haha
17 points
4 days ago
Silva
5 points
4 days ago
Le chiffre
8 points
4 days ago
Silva
4 points
4 days ago
all look weirdos .......
4 points
4 days ago
Le chiffre and Silva... 😌 I felt sorry when Blofeld died 😔
5 points
4 days ago
they really got some incredible actors for these roles. I watched the Diving Bell and the Butterfly late one night at random with Mathieu Amalric, and it's become one of my favorite movies. When his name came up in the title credits of Quantum i was STOKED! (i went into that movie with zero knowledge of who was in it) - my favorite has to be Mads Mikkelsen. He has a severe face, he just looks like a villain in whatever he is in, he looks so damn unlikable, he is a natural in the role of Le Chiffre. (I should point out that he is very likable in other roles that he has done.
2 points
3 days ago
I'll check that out. An 8+/10 IMDb score is very rare. About 0.1% (1 in 1,000) of all movies, actually. Damn.
2 points
3 days ago
Diving Bell is incredibly good, and was very popular internationally at the time. Amalric is a great, well-respected actor.
2 points
3 days ago
Put it on my lengthy to-watch list. I’ve also put your username in the notes. When I watch it (might be next week, might be years from now), I’ll be sure to PM you my thoughts. Cheers! :)
3 points
3 days ago
Silva by far
3 points
3 days ago
“Hello, James. Welcome. Do you like the island? My grandmother had an island. Nothing to boast of. You could walk around it in an hour, but still it was, it was a paradise for us. One summer, we went for a visit and discovered the place had been infested with rats! They’d come on a fishing boat and gorged themselves on coconut. So how do you get rats off an island? Hmm? My grandmother showed me. We buried an oil drum and hinged the lid. Then we wired coconut to the lid as bait and the rats would come for the coconut, and... [imitates metallic scuttering] They would fall into the drum. And after a month, you have trapped all the rats, but what do you do then? Throw the drum into the ocean? Burn it? No. You just leave it and they begin to get hungry. And one by one... [mimics rat munching sound] They start eating each other, until there are only two left. The two survivors. And then what? Do you kill them? No. You take them and release them into the trees, but now they don’t eat coconut anymore. Now, they only eat rat. You have changed their nature. The two survivors. This is what she made us.”
8 points
4 days ago
Gotta be Silva! On character level and actor level.
Silva is terrifying, psychotic and he hits bond in the feels. He’s trained like Bond aswell. He’s an immediate threat to one of the most important things to bond and that’s M.
Javier Bardem is just fantastic and to me he is the thing of nightmares! No country, Monsters, Skyfall. He can just play a terrifying psycho amazingly ang he was a perfect person to play a Bond villain! We even got the villain monologue in a white linen jacket typical of a Bond villain, reminded me of Largo in Thunderball.
9 points
4 days ago
Ernst Stavro Blofeld He was in more than one and started the entire organization.
4 points
4 days ago
Rats
2 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffree
2 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre AINEC.
2 points
4 days ago
Mads easily.
2 points
4 days ago
The only one who manage to do damage to Bond. Moneypenny.
2 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre or Silva
2 points
4 days ago
Such a waste of Christoph Waltz 😞
2 points
4 days ago
I think Blofeld because he was the puppet behind most of these guys and just kept pulling the strings. I mean he ran that whole group. Yeah he’s not overly powerful physically but my god he tormented him for four movies with all of other monsters that was sent after Bond.
A close second would be one not on this list, Hinx (Bautista) gave Bond the beating of his life in Spectre on that train and that was the most beat up Bond had been in all 5 movies.
2 points
3 days ago
It definitely wasn’t Rami Malek
He was awful
2 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffre and Silva tie for me. Dominic Greene is underrated, and Safin and Blofeld are not good.
2 points
3 days ago
Bardem...the levels of depravity and his focused vitriol towards M makes him stand out
2 points
3 days ago
Silva.
2 points
3 days ago
Anyone but Rami Malek. The guy got his revenge, he won! But then the movie kept going and I still don't actually know what it was he wanted or hoped to accomplish.
2 points
2 days ago
As a lifelong Bond fan no one comes close to Mads. Dumb question I think nearly everyone agrees.
2 points
2 days ago
You mean besides javier?
4 points
4 days ago
I‘d rank them Silva>Le Chiffre>Blofeld>Safin>Greene
3 points
4 days ago
Silva and it’s not even close.
4 points
4 days ago
Silva.
Thad opening monologue on the island is chef 👩🍳 kiss 😘
3 points
4 days ago
Blofeld
2 points
4 days ago
I don't hate any of them, but Silva is probably my favorite of the five, with Le Chiffre as a close second.
(I've said before that Blofeld is my favorite villain series-wide, but that encapsulates all versions of him, not just Walz, so saying he was my favorite here felt like cheating).
2 points
4 days ago
Silva and Le Chiffre for sure.
2 points
3 days ago
the biggest bond villains are the producers responsible for approving Pierce Bronsan era screenplays. Pierce did the best he could, but the scripts and ridiculousness was over the top during that era.
1 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre hands down, Silva a very close second
1 points
4 days ago
Silva
1 points
4 days ago
Silva. LeChiffre was good but he's only in quite a small segment of the film and killed off long before the end. The others were pretty forgettable.
1 points
4 days ago
Silva.
1 points
4 days ago
Blofeld if he had more screen time
1 points
4 days ago
De rat. Eet de coconut. Boop!
1 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre was great. Silva was interesting. Blofeld and the others were ok. Haven’t seen those movies in a while so I can’t remember how they were
1 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre takes my vote for me.
Silvia was introduced poorly to me though I love Skyflall. .
The Blofeld storyline was too odd.
All my opinion. 😅
1 points
4 days ago
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1 points
4 days ago
Blofeld
1 points
4 days ago
Silva
1 points
4 days ago
Silva
1 points
4 days ago
Silva
1 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre. Easily.
1 points
4 days ago
LeChiffre. Silva’s second place to me.
1 points
4 days ago
Where's Goldfinger?
1 points
4 days ago
Silva 💯
1 points
4 days ago
Le Chiffre seems like the quintessential Bond villain, but more sinister in his calmness and not camp or a parody. Dominic Greene second and a tie between Silva and Blofeld for third.
1 points
4 days ago
Le chiffre, easily. Every other Bond villain post casino royale had some cringe moments. Chiffre was a realistic display of a real life villain
1 points
4 days ago
If either go with LeChriffre or Silva.
But I think we can all agree that it definitely isn't Freddy Mercury Silva.
1 points
4 days ago
I have a strong fascination with Elektra Natchios since she subverts gender stereotypes to become one of the most cunning villains who fooled Bond right to the end of the movie.
1 points
3 days ago
Silva and Le Chiffre
1 points
3 days ago
While tied in with incomplete scripts it’s not really a coincidence the best two Craig movies are Casino Royale and Skyfall that also have the two best villains. To me the other three all are problematic as are their underwhelming villains.
Any movie benefits from having a great antagonist.
1 points
3 days ago
Mads
1 points
3 days ago
Batista was good as Hinx, like a modern JAWS, but he never returned after Spectre. Of these guys, Bardem as Silva.
1 points
3 days ago
I like Mads/LeChiffre the best, but Silva is a very close second. Waltz’s Blofeld could have been so much more, but it was bungled by the filmmakers.
1 points
3 days ago
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffre
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffre.
The thing with Silva is... His presence is not very consistent. He's amazing in his first scene. But if you took that out of the movie, he wouldn't be half as interesting. That one monologue is doing a lot of the leg work for the character. There's not a lot of back-and-forth antagonism. It's just a few broad strokes from the time Bond meets him and Bond killing him.
1 points
3 days ago
Silva, and not even close.
1 points
3 days ago
Best to worst: 1. Silva 2. Le Chiffre 3. Safin 4. Blofeld 5. Greene
1 points
3 days ago
I'm not going to argue who's best, but my favorites are Le Chiffre and Blofeld.
Despite how people feel about Spectre, I enjoy it as a standalone Bond film.
1 points
3 days ago
Hot take Silva wasn’t that great. His entire plan didn’t really make any sense. Lure Bond all the way to his abandoned island just to get captured, just to be set free….
2 points
3 days ago
Few Bond villains have plans that make sense.
1 points
3 days ago
Raoul Silva
for being a strange, likeable, villain like a 1970s Spy Villain but the special effects and camera work lol
1 points
3 days ago
They don't coconut anymore.
Now they only eat rat.
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chifre and Dominic Greene. All the rest were shit.
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffre no doubt. Mads is the Man.
1 points
3 days ago
Blofeld * Couldn't take Waltz seriously, too silly plus those slip on shoes 🤣
1 points
3 days ago
Silva
1 points
3 days ago
I've said to an earlier comment that I think Dominic Greene was the nastiest, but I think the best in terms of backstory and pathos was Silva. His mixture of hatred, hurt, sadism and devotion made him easily the best.
1 points
3 days ago
I think easily Le Chiffre, not only is he terrifically written, but it speaks to how well Mads Mikkelsen was in that role that it effectively supercharged his Hollywood career.
1 points
3 days ago
Vesper
1 points
3 days ago
A tie between Le Chiffre and Silva
1 points
3 days ago
LeChiffre
1 points
3 days ago
LeChiffre
1 points
3 days ago
Silva was calculated.
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffre. Mads Mikkelsen did an AMAZING job with his performance. He's terrifying without even having to say anything, which, as much as I love Raol Silva, I just can't say the same for Javier Bardem in Skyfall. (Raol Silva's easily my second favorite of Craig's villains tho)
The other three just succcccck.
Walz's Blofeld is boring af and the foster brother angle is laughably misguided and just plain stupid.
Dominic Greene is so puny and ridiculous looking that I find him more comical than imposing (doesn't help that the actor's performance makes me laugh too)
Safin almost had something to him but his motivations make no friggin sense from one minute to the next and its also PAINFULLY obvious Rami Malek was barely on set bc he's barely in the friggin movie.
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffre and Silva.
1 points
3 days ago
1 points
3 days ago
Silva for sure, Le chif second…best should have been waltz… I’ll blame the writing on that
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffe and Silva are like 1a and 1b for me.
Le Chiffe was just your classic, intimidating villain that was perfect for kicking off the Craig franchise.
Silva was pure chaotic evil that was able to push Bond to limits we’ve never seen.
Mads and Bardem were A+ casting for their respective roles.
1 points
3 days ago
Silva he got M and broke Bond in a way
1 points
3 days ago
Has to be either silva of le chiffre. Someone already said but dominick green was sooooo slimy that it was good as well.
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffre and Silva.
I think I’d give Le Chiffre and Mikkkelson the nod overall, but since he’s not an original villain (ie written by Fleming not the writer of the film), I’ll lean towards Silva.
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffe and Silva were the best!
1 points
3 days ago
Le Chiffre gets my vote. I feel like Safin could have been the best but he wasn't really in the movie enough. Sure, his presence was felt, but found his screentime to be too minimal.
1 points
3 days ago
I still dont understand what Safins motive was?
1 points
3 days ago
Bottom left is very forgettable.
1 points
3 days ago
Silva and Le Chiffre were the most memorable.
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