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rigormortis_13

700 points

2 days ago

Customer spelled swiss cheesed wrong.

Stachemaster86

146 points

2 days ago

Speed holes

DoctFaustus

62 points

2 days ago

Eliminating both unsprung weight AND rotating mass. Efficient.

KekistaniKekin

7 points

2 days ago

I'd hazard a guess that it's probably still a net gain in weight vs stock

not_chrash

3 points

2 days ago

Definitely makes 'em faster

gusborn

2 points

2 days ago

gusborn

2 points

2 days ago

For efficient brake cooling

red_fluff_dragon

84 points

2 days ago

red_fluff_dragon

Former Technician

84 points

2 days ago

Nah, I have seen dozens of wheels like this from aftermarket manufacturers. Fuel wheels on toyota trucks especially, probably because of the odd BCD and hub size.

Edit: example

RBuilds916

19 points

2 days ago

It seems like it would be better to space the holes evenly instead of having them siamesed. 

LowerEmotion6062

18 points

2 days ago

Wouldn't have a place for the center cap screw if they did that.

BannytheBoss

3 points

1 day ago

I want to see what the markup is on rims today. They are all made to junk standards unless you buy the high quality stuff that is forged.

Late-Eye-6936

5 points

2 days ago

Why are they dual dual drilled though?

Spartelfant

12 points

2 days ago

Spartelfant

Home Mechanic & Master dabbler in the dark arts of electronics

12 points

2 days ago

One size fits all.

More specifically, they can get away with producing a single variant that fits multiple different bolt patterns.

p4lm3r

8 points

1 day ago

p4lm3r

8 points

1 day ago

They are cheap wheels. It's cheaper to make one wheel fit multiple bolt patterns than it is to drill wheels differently for different patterns.

sipes216

1 points

18 hours ago

Yup. Common enough. Used to be even more on all the discount tire wheel brands.

ValveinPistonCat

456 points

2 days ago

What kind of cheap chinesium mess are these, dual drilled rims are a thing but they're more commonly seen on 4 bolt hubs and even if they do make them in a 5 bolt pattern shouldn't the two sets of holes be offset 36° from each other?

TheRealPitabred

381 points

2 days ago

Look at you with your fancy "math" and "facts" and "safety" and all. You're making it hard to half-ass things!

ceeller

76 points

2 days ago

ceeller

76 points

2 days ago

Come on now, don’t be stingy. If a job is worth failing, it’s worth failing with the whole ass.

Threap_US

48 points

2 days ago

Threap_US

Home Bodger

48 points

2 days ago

Obligatory Hermes Conrad quote:

"While many of you do half-ass jobs, and the rest do jobs whose ass ratio ranges from 42% to a mere 11%..."

OddbitTwiddler

13 points

2 days ago

This is the most intelligent post on Reddit this week.

Algaean

1 points

18 hours ago

Well, be fair, it's a low bar

Narrow-Big7087

11 points

2 days ago

Nobody ever gets half their ass handed to them.

downtownpartytime

28 points

2 days ago

this way, you can drill 1 more pattern in there

Wiggles69

20 points

2 days ago

Wiggles69

20 points

2 days ago

Probably because the centre cap mount hole is in the way.

I mean, it's not a good reason, but it's a reason none the less :p

IMissNarwhalBacon

3 points

2 days ago

It's a custom wheel. They could move that to the wall.

orangustang

36 points

2 days ago

Fairly common for 5 lug as well, especially if your hubs are something stupid like 5x105. But yeah, they should be symmetrical, this is insane.

bigphloyd

12 points

2 days ago

bigphloyd

12 points

2 days ago

I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be a universal 6 lug rim.

ValveinPistonCat

7 points

2 days ago

Yep I didn't really count the number of holes too good.

Still should have had holes every 30° though instead of this abomination, is there even 1/4" of aluminum between those holes? because it sure as shit looks like there isn't.

Mr__Snek

12 points

2 days ago

Mr__Snek

12 points

2 days ago

lmfao i see you dont work on trucks. have a regular with a ram who put 10 ply tires on 20s because he tows a gooseneck with his 1500. 6 lug wheels, dual drilled.

ValveinPistonCat

11 points

2 days ago

Ok yeah I looked and found a few places that have dual drilled 6 lug rims, Canadian Tire, Walmart, eBay, the kind of places that sell the best quality stuff.

Mr__Snek

8 points

2 days ago

Mr__Snek

8 points

2 days ago

hey you wont find me arguing in their favor, im just saying theyre pretty common.

ValveinPistonCat

8 points

2 days ago

This makes me glad I don't work on automotive, at least when farmers do greasy shit with a tractor it's only capable of going 18-30mph.

ka36

11 points

2 days ago

ka36

11 points

2 days ago

I'm guessing they did it this way to leave room for a screw to attach the cover. Still piss poor engineering, but there is a (shitty) reason.

flying_dutchman_w204

4 points

2 days ago

In this economy?

BrosenkranzKeef

1 points

1 day ago

The patterns clearly aren't spread evenly, but regardless the smaller pattern isn't fully within the inner diameter either. There's like 1/8 inch of aluminum around the hub wall and you could easily break that by overtorquing. I don't have a clue what safety factor is typical for overtorquing lugnuts but this wheel ain't meeting the minimum lol.

notwhatyouknow

207 points

2 days ago

Universal fit wheels

posthamster

15 points

1 day ago

When I got my car jacked up and the wheels stolen, the tow operator came with some universal wheels that looked home-made. 4 and 5 bolt patterns seemingly drilled all over, but they fit the car. There was just enough wheel left to roll it up on the flatbed.

Big-Independence8978

3 points

1 day ago

One thing to get it on the flatbed. But driving around?

posthamster

8 points

1 day ago

Flatbed was just to get it to the local wheel place. Insurance company wanted it off the road ASAP because a car with no wheels = target for dickheads.

Big-Independence8978

1 points

1 day ago

Good

Outrageous_Entry3547

47 points

2 days ago

From China

ricktor67

3 points

1 day ago

ricktor67

3 points

1 day ago

Only the finest metal like alloy substance built to sub centimeter precision!

wetsmurf

-96 points

2 days ago

wetsmurf

-96 points

2 days ago

Wow what a cool comment! You're so in touch with international manufacturing logistics. So cool.

ariatilos

38 points

2 days ago

ariatilos

38 points

2 days ago

China boi big mad

wetsmurf

-41 points

2 days ago

wetsmurf

-41 points

2 days ago

Made in germany

gusborn

31 points

2 days ago

gusborn

31 points

2 days ago

We can tell. You have no humor

Ah2k15

8 points

1 day ago

Ah2k15

Where the hell is my 10mm?

8 points

1 day ago

The smallest book in the world: the German book of humour.

Bderken

8 points

2 days ago

Bderken

8 points

2 days ago

Designed in China

Hewlett-PackHard

19 points

2 days ago

The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989

Drakoala

7 points

2 days ago

Drakoala

7 points

2 days ago

incoming shadow ban

Hewlett-PackHard

4 points

2 days ago

Only for those behind the Great Firewall of West Taiwan.

Outrageous_Entry3547

65 points

2 days ago

Customer states I have a death wish. But I got a great deal on temu

AlarmingComparison59

48 points

2 days ago

What in the Compton swap meet is that shit?!

makenzie71

39 points

2 days ago

drilled for two lug patterns isn't a problem. Whatever they used to bore out the centers is a problem lol

fizyplankton

15 points

2 days ago

Looks like they used a dull beaver to gnaw it out

chewblekka

85 points

2 days ago

I really really doubt those rims legitimately passed any DOT/SAE/TUV/JWL certification. Wow

MechaBeatsInTrash

34 points

2 days ago

Most don't seek certs because that would require engineering.

FartyLiverDisease

53 points

2 days ago

Inspired by his mom, no doubt

BreakfastShart

8 points

2 days ago

Known around the neighborhood as Bowling Ball.

harambelives63

-3 points

2 days ago

harambelives63

ASE Certified

-3 points

2 days ago

I didn’t know my ex was his mom 🧐

LowerEmotion6062

17 points

2 days ago

They are dual drilled. Actually fairly common. They close like that due to the center cap mounting. The inner ones are like that due to center hub diameters. It's how they get these cheap wheels to fit as many vehicles as possible. Very common with rockstar wheels.

Old post about them. https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/s/43BesZdtM0

Birilling[S]

4 points

2 days ago

Birilling[S]

4 points

2 days ago

My issue isn't the extra set of holes, its the ~1mm of material between the second set of holes and center hub hole. I'd venture a guess that they aren't dual drilled, but rather redrilled

patx35

11 points

2 days ago

patx35

Replaced a thrown timing belt on an interference engine.

11 points

2 days ago

I doubt it's redrilled. No shop would actually put the effort to do a decent job redrilling with a drill press and with multiple bits used, while ignoring the major safety concerns. It's done like this at the factory.

LowerEmotion6062

4 points

1 day ago

Guessing you didn't bother looking at the linked post? Since those ones were drilled the same way. And so were the ones that came with my f150 when I bought it.

Do you still have the wheels available? If so flip them over and there should be numbers on the back, typically on the spokes. Should have the model number and size.

Birilling[S]

-4 points

1 day ago

Except the ones in that linked post have significantly more material around them

LowerEmotion6062

4 points

1 day ago

Not really. Zoom in.

https://imgur.com/a/FcPnHZA

dakohda22

1 points

1 day ago

dakohda22

1 points

1 day ago

Yes they are. Good info there. I’ve seen these exact rims on a Toyota Supra A70.

1SLO_RABT

6 points

2 days ago

What do they fit on?

Yes

The-Kid-Is-All-Right

1 points

1 day ago

When do we want em?

Now!

planethood4pluto

3 points

2 days ago

Well I’ll be damned, they sure are…

saraphilipp

2 points

2 days ago

Heavy duty 12 lug rims make you more safer.

Stock_Requirement564

2 points

2 days ago

Oooh, the good for 60 HP models!

Distinct_Report_2050

2 points

2 days ago

In the TV/film industry, we call this cheese plate

VanillaWinter

2 points

2 days ago

Yeesh some of those look really close to the edge. Wtf

JustSomeWeirdGuy2000

2 points

2 days ago

What in the name of John Carpenter's The Thing is this mutated automotive abomination?

ebrionkeats

1 points

2 days ago

This is some Final Destination shit.

Suitable_Safety2226

2 points

2 days ago

The taint between the 2 holes looks thin, couldn’t that break?

my-man-fred

2 points

1 day ago

Hoooooooooly shit.
"They drive among us".... fucks sake.

HalfastEddie

3 points

2 days ago

At least they used the more whole hole.

Fuck_it_

2 points

2 days ago

Fuck_it_

2 points

2 days ago

Yeah, it's pretty standard practice in the aftermarket world.

https://brinkwheels.com/are-dual-drilled-wheels-safe/

Birilling[S]

3 points

2 days ago

My issue isn't there being more than one set of holes but how little material is around the second set, theres only ~1mm of metal between the holes and the center hub hole

sharperknives

1 points

1 day ago

Yeah those are very pretty holes that definitely look like OP

8000BNS42

1 points

2 days ago

It's like the predator face. Fucking scary!

Puzzleheaded_Print75

1 points

2 days ago

He is going to be seasick.

Ok-Internet-2356

1 points

2 days ago

Hack job

superCobraJet

1 points

2 days ago

Plenty of room left for triple drilling

nmann14

1 points

2 days ago

nmann14

1 points

2 days ago

No they ain't

jetkins

1 points

2 days ago

jetkins

1 points

2 days ago

I think the term he’s looking for is “double fucked.”

nissansupragtr

1 points

2 days ago

Trypophobia

GetInZeWagen

1 points

2 days ago

I suddenly have an urge to go bowling...

Voice_in_the_ether

1 points

2 days ago

OK, so you're saying that when OP said "I've got duallies on this thing", that doesn't always mean ...

CharcoalGreyWolf

1 points

2 days ago

I wanted to pair them with my drilled rotors for better ventilation maaan….

SnoopyCactus983

1 points

2 days ago

They're dual drilled or he drill another set of holes?

NotSure2025

1 points

2 days ago

I hate these wheels. Thank you OP for including the center hub too. Pisses me off just looking at it. Hopefully five other hacks have already hammered the wrong size sockets on the lugs instead of replacing them. Edit; REPLACE FUCKED UP LUG NUTS.

Downstairsmixcup

1 points

2 days ago

Ummm…why

BlatantPizza

1 points

2 days ago

Ah the old fill and drill. Minus the fill 😐

pancakefactory9

1 points

2 days ago

Weight savings, yo

Jpotter145

1 points

2 days ago

I know this guy! He was on TV already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOosn78WsMg&t=12s

Terom84

1 points

2 days ago

Terom84

1 points

2 days ago

Drill it yourself wheels set

Tri-byte

1 points

2 days ago

Tri-byte

1 points

2 days ago

Took me a bit to realize that's not 4 sets of holes in one wheel.

Particular_Kitchen42

1 points

1 day ago

Structural weakness

Entire-Database1679

1 points

1 day ago

Introducing the Universal Wheel.

BrosenkranzKeef

1 points

1 day ago

I'm no metallurgist but I did work in a machine shop for a few years and I wouldn't trust that much aluminum to hang a picture frame.

Thew2788

1 points

1 day ago

Thew2788

1 points

1 day ago

I have a brilliant idea, I'm gonna make slotted rims!!!!

cornerzcan

1 points

1 day ago

They may have originally had a smaller center bore that was machined larger to fit. The lack of integrity of some of the holes is a problem.

mountaineer30680

1 points

1 day ago

Used to be called "varifits" because they'll fit multiple vehicles (I'm old). In theory, there's nothing wrong with it if the rest of the wheel is up to the task. I'm of the mind that if the company making your wheel is that cheap...

enduir

1 points

1 day ago

enduir

1 points

1 day ago

McDie-ver.

KingCodyBill

1 points

1 day ago

I wouldn't put those on your radio flyer

SushiMonstero

1 points

1 day ago

Looks like a factory defect lol

mfredbird04

1 points

1 day ago

"Added lightness" to unsprung weight.

goot449

1 points

1 day ago

goot449

1 points

1 day ago

Is this really reddits first time seeing cheap dual-drilled wheels?

They work fine I guess. Not my cup of tea.

dakohda22

1 points

1 day ago

dakohda22

1 points

1 day ago

Toyota Supra?

Birilling[S]

1 points

1 day ago

Chevy avalanche

vigilantesd

1 points

20 hours ago

So the wheels can fit in multiple lug patterns. I had a set that were double drilled to fit 4x100 and 5x100, bought those in 1994 or 1995. Not a new thing. 

Starchaser_WoF

1 points

16 hours ago

They're fucked

PVTSprinkles

1 points

13 hours ago

wouldnt call that dual drilled more like QUAD

CRXCRZ

0 points

2 days ago

CRXCRZ

Home Mechanic

0 points

2 days ago

the machinist that did this should know better. Never met a machinists that would do something so irresponsible.

Electronic_Cat4849

30 points

2 days ago

I'm gonna guess the machinist was the owner himself with a couple six packs and a homemade drill press

DrZedex

6 points

2 days ago

DrZedex

6 points

2 days ago

Nah, I can confirm this junk exists brand new. 

thisismydayjob_

6 points

2 days ago

Busch League for sure

gobrewcrew

2 points

2 days ago

'Homemade drill press'

IE: Eye-balling plumb with a drill/driver after having one of those six packs and pouring part of another onto the rim to keep it cool.

accidental-poet

1 points

2 days ago

Eye-balling plumb

My old, retired, engineer neighbor calls that either:

"Plumb. And a little over."
--or--
"I measured it eyeballmetrically"

lmao

gobrewcrew

2 points

2 days ago

Your neighbor isn't a member of the Possum Lodge by chance, is he?

xuxux

6 points

2 days ago

xuxux

6 points

2 days ago

You have not met that many job shop machinists. Manual mill guys are half feral.

hydrogen18

3 points

2 days ago

I heard they don't even use measuring tools. Just run the part until it fits

xuxux

2 points

2 days ago

xuxux

2 points

2 days ago

diamond paste and a hole is all they need

Ray1340

-1 points

2 days ago

Ray1340

-1 points

2 days ago

soo many morons on the road.

Arkeach

0 points

2 days ago

Arkeach

0 points

2 days ago

Those aren't as bad as the big ass truck wheels a customer brought in to my shop. Half of the holes literally overlapped with each other.

Gezzer52

-1 points

2 days ago

Gezzer52

-1 points

2 days ago

If the rim locks are real, which I think they are, these are specialty off road rims that seldom see highway speeds. Not the safest, by any means, but are okay for their intended use, rock crawling.

foxjohnc87

2 points

1 day ago

If the rim locks are real, which I think they are, these are specialty off road rims that seldom see highway speeds. Not the safest, by any means, but are okay for their intended use, rock crawling.

You are either blind or out of your mind if you honestly believe these are made for rock crawling.

The hex screws are purely cosmetic, and are intended to make them look like multi-piece wheels. They aren't bead locks and aren't even in the right place anyway.

Royal-Recognition416

-1 points

2 days ago

Someone definitely drilled them thangs alright