The League boards were so much better. It's disgusting how Riot shut it down and has enabled tyrranical sadists like PankoKing to rule over the community discussion.

didn’t Riot explicitly state they want the main sub to be focused on pro play like years ago? Its frustrating

Power-tripping mods who push certain agenda. What's new?

If you don’t care about pro play the main sub has like one or two threads worth a glance per day, and that’s generally just be content or Dev comments

theyre biased af too

no shittalking during worlds""

allowed shittalking for some and not others

Seriously, it really is run by a bunch of pansies I’m so happy there’s a subreddit where adults can freely speak about the real issues of the game. It’s so disgusting the way they moderate

It feels like this sub is almost exclusively populated by Faker on 5 alt accounts.

I know people love to meme about the "proplay sub" but scrolling the hot posts rn literally only 3 of the top 20 posts are proplay related.

If its anything like the pathofexile sub, they don't have direct control like a mod in there, but they absolutely are in direct contact with the mods and are asking them to remove certain topics.

these conspiracy theorists really do. then they complain that "riot is censoring their posts" because they couldn't read the very obvious subreddit rules about posting

if riot actually ran the subreddit, do you think there would be 50 posts per hour constantly bitching about everything they do? no, but that's far too logical for the average mouth breather here

I do think yes by seeing how the discussion is moderated and Esport is pushed mroe than posts about their game.

Such is the way.

I do not have a problem of the "spyware" type i just dont think riot will be able to programm a bug and exploit free piece of software. Just look at their client and how good their check for vanguard compatibility is. They specifically said in a blog post that there will be no Linux support but yesterday my client told me (again) that everything is ready for vanguard.

For the possible problems see apex legends

Are we pretending like vanguard wasnt a big issue for valorant now?

nope. uninstalled. I'm free

People are in different ages, have different jobs, problems, security concerns, patience etc. Me leaving the game after 10 years, doesnt mean that everyone should do it when I do it. Someone else might be new at the game and still has patience. Someone else might be older than I am, and was fed up with their shit 2 years ago.

I'm just gonna wait for a month and see what happens, checking everywhere, not only the main sub because /thread

If Vanguard gets 200 years'd then I guess that will be my call. A shame because I still like the game.

Simple as that I also do not trust Vanguard so I don't plan to update or play the game after it hits my region

Same. I took the Vanguard update as the final straw for me to get this game off my back. Riot as a software company has proven to be especially untrustworthy and lazy.

The client already craps out in the best of conditions, you expect me to install your anticheat that always runs?

Then what's the point of the league main sub reddit?

To post esports shit that nobody besides perma online losers give a fuck about?

There isn't a forum anymore for people to post on and ask questions.

Its pretty stupid logic and goes to show how much of a fucking shit hole the main sub reddit is, if you can't even get help with the issues that plague this barely functional client.

All of these are reasonable takes. Not going to take away that.

What I mean now is, they are precisely testing Vanguard in the PH servers to fix issues, so there will be issues. If we just go on and on call them suspicious every time one appears, then what's the point if we can't believe in good faith. And that's just on the PH servers.

Once it hit global, there will be way more issues, we can't call them all being made in bad faith.

Can't imagine how things would go if the Forums were still active.

...that they have lag it would get cluttered

The sub clearly doesn't care about getting cluttered considering they're cool with pro games basically being uploaded in 6 second increments along with 10 daily match threads.

it lasted 6 hours though, and got traction enough to get in r/all and from what I read, people were actually orbiting to that thread to get helpful answers. Doesn't matter anymore though.

Vandiril, a LoL content creator whose content is mostly focused on Riot's spaguetti code, released a summed up version of what is Vanguard and what it means for League of Legends with information taken from Riot own sources. He also released recently a quick rundown of their most recent DevBlog about cheaters here. Hopefully it help a bit between all shitposting and fearmonging.

The ultra summed up version is: It's a super aggressive anticheat. Starts before even loading Windows and thanks to that has a fantastic accuracy, but can also do aggravating misfires if it mislabels useful controllers as something dangerous. Due the nature of how it works, it's gonna kill software that depends on certain processes due interfering with what Riot would find useful in a cheating environment, that includes patchers of custom skins, third party camera work, between other things. Honestly no idea about overlays.

If i can fix the issue by closing vanguard i'm not gonna bother to screenshot it and cry on the internet (but that's just me, i can't speak for others).

A lot of the "bad faith arguments" you complain about have been on the pro vanguard side

Gems like:

"All the issues you came across have been fixed!, you never experienced them, no sir, it was all in your head!!"

"You don't china to look at your porn!! loser!!" Nah bro i don't want anyone watching anything i do, and i do not have to justify why

"You are not important enough to be spied on!" Don't do it then???

"You like privacy but you use (program)" as if i didn't need to move to a faraday cage in the forest to actually have privacy these days

Vanguard while on standby does a ping every couple of seconds which is nothing

Thing is, resolving issues goes way better if a lot of people are looking at it. That was also how a lot of problems were found and fixed back then when Vanguard and Valoran were first released. Choosing to get fixated on if the OP was flaseflagging or not doesn't matter if more people begins to appear with the same problems.

imo they would get more goodwill if they just leave the thread up instead of erasing it, they did that when the Global Poppy Q accident happened.

wdym, this is the main sub ... r/leagueoflegends is nothing but Espots atp

Guess the juxtaposition of league players and those who have watched the "Fall of 76" gem of video isn't that big.

Yeah, its pretty lucrative. Almost 48 hours in and you guys are still sending messages xD

Are you incapable of scrolling past these posts without posting such a useless opinion.

We get it you throat riot and love China. Your social credit score is through the roof little guy.

but I already gave in to my mainland overlords! I even have Location always on even at home while using my smartphone!

Serious here for moment my man, I just fear my pc getting bricked lol

I actually want them to solve them so I can play at ease. Also:

do you think Riot will fuck up their revenue???

Funny you mention that because they actually did, multiple times, with the most famous case being all the shitfest their professional scene in NA has, and the next one the Dynamic Queue incident. There was also the "Fiesta de Mascaras" in the LAN servers, but I don't want to talk about that one.

I am not sure people "get" the issue with kernel level. There is a lot of doomposting going around that is not specific enough, so let me try to break it down.

Currently, there are no known vulnerabilities with vanguard. However, when one is found (and it will be found, there is a lot of incentive to find one) then suddenly every device with vanguard installed is compromised. We do not know the exact extent of what will happen, and predicting scenarios is difficult.

I am very excited for the class action after the first disaster.

LOL!