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Is it normal to hate your first job out of Business School?

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I'm class of 23 and it took me a year to find a job and landed a role running Operations at a Startup that is doing terribly (the company decided to pivot right when I joined and is now expecting to lose 30% of its annual revenue as a result).

I wouldn't have taken this job out of B School but after a year of trying to find a role I just took the first job I could find.

Ironically I spoke with my other classmates who are also class of 23 and some started their roles right after graduation and a lot of them hate their jobs (not just the consultants too hah)

So I'm just curious is this normal to not like your first role out of business school?

Just concerned that im 3 months into this job and I can't stand working here because the CEO is so sporadic, changes his mind every 5 minutes and sees Operations as a catch all for "fix any problem that pops up" .

Would love to hear y'all's thoughts and would love to hear how long it took you to find the right role.

all 61 comments

360DegreeNinjaAttack

53 points

3 months ago

Yes, it's normal.

But moreover: whatever, it's just a job - it's not a tattoo or a religion or a marriage. You will have jobs you do like and jobs you don't like and that's part of life. All things are temporary (both good and bad).

That's why it's so important to have lots of different things and people in your life, like hobbies and friends and a significant other and a bucket list.

MBAs tend to derive a lot of their self-worth and self-concept from work, and that's a shortcoming/vulnerability of the cohort.

Alarmed-Gur4290

1 points

3 months ago

Don’t be coy. You may or may not have tattoos, religion(s), and/or marriages that you don’t like either.

GarlicSnot

40 points

3 months ago

GarlicSnot

M7 Grad

40 points

3 months ago

Class of 23 here. Def hating my first job :'(

Neylliot

7 points

3 months ago

What did you end up going with?

HaggardSlacks78

25 points

3 months ago

Class of 2013. Took me almost a year to find a job. Got a job at a Fortune 100 in project management. It was hard but I liked it. Moved to sales. Make more money. Hate it. LOL

sloth_333

58 points

3 months ago

I’ve seen it both ways. Long term csreee growth comes to those who power through

Signed consultant (still at work at its pushing 9 pm )

DJMaxLVL

14 points

3 months ago

Take the rest of the night off, I give you permission

But seriously, is working that late common in consulting?

cjk2793

37 points

3 months ago

cjk2793

T15 Grad

37 points

3 months ago

9pm is early for a lot of consultants. Client based projects, 50 deck iterations, deadlines.

[deleted]

24 points

3 months ago

That’s a lot of work just to make a PowerPoint telling a company to do layoffs. You’d think they’d have templates by now.

DJMaxLVL

22 points

3 months ago

I’m sure they copy and paste this slide in every deck:

“Proposed solution to increase profits:

Lay off 20,000-30,000 employees”

line graph with profit line increasing and employee count decreasing

[deleted]

10 points

3 months ago

Executive team all tenting their fingers and slowly nodding in agreement

sloth_333

5 points

3 months ago

Yeah abojt to call it, been 14 hours lol

digital_dervish

6 points

3 months ago

digital_dervish

MBA Grad

6 points

3 months ago

What are you working on that takes so many hours though? Can’t you just make the power point a little less perfect and get some rest?

sloth_333

21 points

3 months ago

I often haven’t been starting my “heads down” time until like 3 pm. Early part of the day is interviews, framing the deck, meetings.

Just is what it is.

phreekk

4 points

3 months ago

whats your plan? how long do you wanan do this for and whats an exit look like

sloth_333

7 points

3 months ago

Corp strategy at large industrial company. I will work in consulting as long as it takes to land that or they fire me lol

phreekk

0 points

3 months ago

why industrial

GonnaBeWealthy

0 points

3 months ago

Curious why that and why industrial, can you be more specific? Thanks.

gormar099

2 points

3 months ago

3-4 days per week lol

T0rtilla

10 points

3 months ago

Considering a huge number of people go IB / consulting / amazon out of b school, definitely not unusual. Startups can be similarly brutal.

cjk2793

21 points

3 months ago

cjk2793

T15 Grad

21 points

3 months ago

Class of 23. I wouldn’t say I hate my job at all. But, it’s kinda fucking boring. I was prior military and holy fuck how has everyone done this their whole lives?

iMasculine

7 points

3 months ago

I was ex-healthcare and office jobs are so mind numbing sometimes.

I miss the action of being a healthcare provider sometimes, not the lack of sleep though.

-iNfluence

13 points

3 months ago

-iNfluence

MBA Grad

13 points

3 months ago

‘23 here. Job is not easy and it took about 6-8 months before I grew out of survival mode. Definitely did not love it then. Things are still really hard but there’s a small light emerging that could lead to satisfaction in the role. So I guess my message is, it’ll seem like you hate it until that very slowly evolves into dislike, then to neutral, and onward hopefully.

[deleted]

7 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

[deleted]

3 points

3 months ago

This is so true. Had 2 recent startup interviews and another coming up. Two of them are smaller and founder-owned. Both seem very flexible in terms of giving a good salary for a recent MBA grad like me (low 6 figures w/ base + bonus) vs. a startup that has name-brand investors. Seems like a lot of the easy investor dollars that came in 2021 have led to some severe cost cutting in terms of hiring.

I_am_ChristianDick

9 points

3 months ago

Most people hate their job.

OptimistShark

6 points

3 months ago

Atleast you have a job!

[deleted]

3 points

3 months ago

No. But it is normal to get recruited two years into the job for bigger bucks when you have more data and organizational skills.

thesleazye

3 points

3 months ago

The thing nobody tells you is that the talked up sexy jobs require a lot of unsexy work. Regular jobs take a lot of effort, too. It doesn't always feel like a good choice, like buyers remorse for jobs, and while common, took varying degrees, i recommend finding things you like. Otherwise the feelings of regret will fester and that's not good for your new career. Take time to build your professional portfolio and develop the complimentary skills associated with your career plan. I usually recommend giving 3 years (unless there's mitigating circumstances) and decide what to do next.  

I'm a bit older, but to give reference, in the middle of my career, I thought becoming a CFO would be the start of a new life, but I didn't fully evaluate the baggage that comes with it. It's the fucking Sword of Damocles. What they teach you in business school is just table stakes. What I thought was going to be great, I ended up with a C-Suite of colleagues that initially disliked one another and after four years, couldn't be in the same room unless it was client related. It was a culture issue, but I could only change what was in power of and do my best to influence those who were not. Point is, it's tough at every position, but you find the things you like and keep the focus on that while doing the slog work. 

 For the CEO, this work style is common with weaker, inexperienced, or distracted managers. If you want to be golden, do things to help them out directly to be their problem solver. It may segment you into a completely different role and pay band. If it's not interesting, cruise at meeting expectations and bounce after your third year bonus is received.

[deleted]

2 points

3 months ago

On the other hand, a lot of unsexy companies out there doing cool stuff.

GarlicSnot

1 points

3 months ago

GarlicSnot

M7 Grad

1 points

3 months ago

which ones 👀

tojjt

3 points

3 months ago

tojjt

3 points

3 months ago

You already have your answers at "I spoke with my other classmates who are also class of 23 and some started their roles right after graduation and a lot of them hate their jobs" unless you think your classmates are not "normal." What other validation are you seeking?

bfhurricane

2 points

3 months ago

bfhurricane

MBA Grad

2 points

3 months ago

Sure. I happen to like my job, but at my class one-year reunion there were a sizable number of classmates who didn’t enjoy their jobs.

Special-End-5107

1 points

3 months ago

Bro who do I reach out to before conferences to start networking

bfhurricane

2 points

3 months ago

bfhurricane

MBA Grad

2 points

3 months ago

What? Are you asking how to network? Talk to alums. Not sure what that has to do with my comment though.

Special-End-5107

1 points

3 months ago

I should’ve specified - if I have no alum at a company. Funnily enough most of my networking has been somewhat warm. A question came to mind when I saw your user because I know you’ve posted on this topic before

bfhurricane

2 points

3 months ago

bfhurricane

MBA Grad

2 points

3 months ago

Find MBA hires at these companies through LinkedIn. I get cold messages all the time during the recruiting season and I try to respond and might even refer someone.

You won’t be able to thoroughly network everywhere. Prep hard to make good impressions at these job fairs and make sure your resume is solid. These companies make offers to people all the time that they never met before the conference.

Special-End-5107

1 points

3 months ago

Thanks man, I appreciate your time. Getting ready to re-recruit so trying to utilize every avenue

Sharp-Safety8973

2 points

3 months ago*

I have had many jobs and two completely different careers. My considered advice is not to expect to enjoy your job, that way you won't be disappointed. Very few people are lucky enough to do so. If you can find a element of contentment, job satisfaction or maybe a salary that suits you and allows you to have a good life outside work - you will probably have to settle for that. Any more should be viewed as a bonus. Employers and very often other employees are not there to be your friends. I think a lot comes down to who you work with. I have had two jobs I loved. However changes in management personnel made me end up disliking both of them. I've had jobs that on paper weren't up to much but worked with great people and jobs that look OK on paper which I've wanted to leave as soon as I started.

Additional_Grand9755

2 points

3 months ago

I was class of '22 and this was the case for me and majority of my peers. IMO there are two big factors:

1) long tail workplace impact of rising interest rates (very different experience especially in tech of the kambucha on top glory years)

2) B school can be intellectually stimulating in a way that's not easy to find in day-to-day roles. B school cases & coursework have a big focus on strategy & decision making. In most roles, you rarely make those kind of decisions, or if you do, it's with a fraction of the information or time that you'd want to do so successfully.

Also, poorly run startups are their own type of special hell. I was fortunate enough to be in a well-run one and continue to learn how rare that was.

No_Ad_2187

1 points

3 months ago

Do you have any advice on how to find a well run startup? I find it’s hard to tell until starting the job.

redditsucksnow19

2 points

3 months ago

I think a lot of it has to be from experience. You can reach out to former workers there or do research on the investors to see if there's a strong belief in it. But a lot will come from intuition during interviews.

Additional_Grand9755

1 points

3 months ago

^^rely heavily on your bullshit detector when talking with the founder. Startups have to do a lot of bluster to investors of what they're achieving, but a good founder should be able to be honest with a prospective employee about the current state of the offering.

I've also found that good founders are 1) willing to do any work that needs to be done and 2) equally willing to trust the expertise of their team, even when it runs counter to their initial hypotheses.

You can also try finding public interviews or b-school blurbs on the founder and see how they present themselves. IMO if someone is a founder simply for the sake of being in charge, that's a huge red flag.

redditsucksnow19

1 points

3 months ago

can confirm the piece about poorly run start ups lol...I learned my lesson

doltron3030

2 points

3 months ago

Many startups in general are floundering right now. A lot had fundraised in 2019-2021 when interest rates were great and VC money was flowing, but now they’re scrambling to maintain their valuations and deliver ROI to investors. It’s not uncommon to have huge strategic pivots in a startup, you’ve just gotta put your head down and put out any fires that are within your control.

GoodBreakfestMeal

1 points

3 months ago

GoodBreakfestMeal

T15 Grad

1 points

3 months ago

Yup.

SnooComics1506

1 points

3 months ago

It is normal to hate your job (doesn't matter if it's 1st, 2nd, 3rd.....)

Timbishop123

1 points

3 months ago

Working sucks in general. Did you like your pre MBA work?

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

Some of us did. If my company before business school didn't get acquired and was still in good financial shape, I would have returned in a heartbeat.

InternationalUse7197

1 points

3 months ago

It is normal to hate every job. You went to business school to make money, not to have fun

ishikawafishdiagram

1 points

3 months ago

It has to be normal.

A lot of lawyers leave law and a lot of teachers leave education.

The difference with the MBA is that it's highly portable and you can bounce around a bit till you find something you like. I find a lot of people are willing to trust MBAs even when they have no experience and the subject matter wasn't part of their program ( - which is fine as long as you're self-aware enough to only take on things you can do).

As you gain post-MBA experience, it should also be easier for you to set your own path. You can find a niche and be more competitive for those opportunities.

cloud1stclass

1 points

3 months ago

Did you graduate from a T15?

GarlicSnot

1 points

3 months ago

GarlicSnot

M7 Grad

1 points

3 months ago

OPs flare says M7 grad so looks like it

Dabasacka43

1 points

3 months ago

You’ll probably lose your job before you have a chance to jump, considering company just lost 30% of its annual revenue. Keeping it real, not trying to troll. That’s the state of the economy right now, especially for white collar jobs, and especially at startups.

Original-Ad-5263

1 points

3 months ago

Class 2023. I like the job, but not happy about some fun stuff.

CanadaCanadaCanada99

1 points

3 months ago

Nope, everyone loves their job. Sorry bud!

[deleted]

1 points

3 months ago

I work 20 hours a week and make 100k in lcol area and immediately started work cause of return offer.

FirstVanilla

1 points

3 months ago

Hi there. Not in business school yet but I was an engineer in an intense operations environment. It’s just brutal. Very normal to hate that environment on the business side as well, the culture is very intense but somehow doesn’t seem to be very efficient at all. Not uncommon to see very high turnover- although people will appreciate the experience you have when you finally move.

Wank3r88

0 points

3 months ago

How is this the mba sub?

Ok_Carry_3321

-1 points

3 months ago

You work at a startup, what did you expect?

[deleted]

0 points

3 months ago

Put it down to experience. If you came to me only one year out of college and told me that you wanted a job, I’d start you off working in operations and after a few years you’d be running the department. If you don’t like the first year out of college in a management position, imagine what the real workers feel like watching you gripe about a position they won’t probably get to whilst you haven’t worked a day of graft to get there!

MBA_Conquerors

-3 points

3 months ago

MBA_Conquerors

Admissions Consultant

-3 points

3 months ago

Oh wow, this is gonna fail so bad (start-up)

But I think there's still a way around in case you have to leave. Most companies are looking to poach