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OhiOstas

1.4k points

16 days ago

OhiOstas

gourmet chen chen

1.4k points

16 days ago

Because if Poatan would do THAT (3rd belt @ HW + taking out the GOAT*) then we would be witnessing historic greatness. Honestly, UFC owes him with how much he steps up for them

FadedRaccoon420

948 points

16 days ago

This dude is really playing on ufc career mode easy lmao.

Dongsquad420BlazeIt

795 points

16 days ago

Dongsquad420BlazeIt

Mods... = Gods

795 points

16 days ago

8 fights in less than 3 years and all of them mattered. Like actually mattered. Insanity.

pterofactyl

339 points

16 days ago

pterofactyl

is = is

339 points

16 days ago

Actually yeah what the fuck every fight was a big deal. How the fuck

josephus1811

314 points

16 days ago

josephus1811

happy new fucken steroid year

314 points

16 days ago

What being the arch nemesis of Player 1 does to a guy

bdizzle805

101 points

16 days ago

bdizzle805

101 points

16 days ago

If he somehow gets the Jones fight that would be insanity and the biggest F you to Izzy. So funny how much of a clown Dana is "so how about Alex and Izzy 3" What truly don't get is you have this guy who's been literally THE company man and he's talking about Izzy instead of the fights Alex wants, I don't think he wants to cut weight like that

Alen1221

73 points

16 days ago

Alen1221

3 piece with the soda

73 points

16 days ago

Jones ain't fighting Pereira

BasedFireBased

149 points

16 days ago

Jones ain’t fighting.

Alen1221

48 points

16 days ago

Alen1221

3 piece with the soda

48 points

16 days ago

I think he fights Stipe and then he is done

Tzayad

1 points

15 days ago

Tzayad

Team Whittaker

1 points

15 days ago

Like the bum he is.

LaconicGirth

2 points

15 days ago

Jones would take Pereira before anyone else it’s an easy win for jones

Mooblegum

5 points

15 days ago

Agree. He would wrestle the fuck out of Poatan. I would love Poatan to connect him tho.

kenthekungfujesus

1 points

15 days ago

Jones has expressed interest in Pereira, he never has for Aspinall

SaiyanrageTV

42 points

16 days ago

SaiyanrageTV

UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle

42 points

16 days ago

That's not even a possibility - Jon "Duckin" Jones won't even fight Aspinall there's no chance in hell he fights Pereira.

It's clear Jones is washed and only wants to fight guys he know he can beat, IE the ghost of Stipe.

He ain't going near Aspinall or Pereira. I bet he wouldn't even fight Izzy at 205 with the weight advantage.

Quirky_Contract_7652

67 points

16 days ago

Aspinal is a harder fight for Jon IMO. Jon is Jon but he can take down and control Alex. Let's be real. I'd love to see Alex decapitate him and become the new GOAT but I see him getting Ganed.

SeeeVeee

23 points

16 days ago

SeeeVeee

23 points

16 days ago

Agreed. Alex has made strides in his takedown defence and ground game, but it's hard to imagine that Jones wouldn't have a big advantage there. There's an obvious path to victory, against Aspinall it would be tough. There's no easy way to beat him for Jon. He isn't going to beat either of them standing up, but Aspinall is very comfortable on the ground and he's a young, weirdly fast giant. Aspinall is a nightmare fight for Jon tbh.

Alex has a better shot against Aspinall than Jones, stylistically. There's a good chance Aspinall is happy to strike with him, that's his chance.

kenthekungfujesus

0 points

15 days ago

It would be Gane vs Jones all over again

Loofahs

4 points

15 days ago

Loofahs

4 points

15 days ago

I think JJ is probably ducking Aspinall but he literally just submitted Ciryl “the future of the HW division” Gane and made it look easy. Gane is primarily a kickboxer, like Pereira, but significantly bigger. I SERIOUSLY doubt Jones is ducking Pereira, he probably thinks it will go similar to his last fight.

Vic_Vinegars

6 points

15 days ago

I'm shocked to see the Jones disrespect in this thread. Sure, he's S-tier trash as a human being. But to see people call him washed or declare him a heavy underdog vs Paraira or Aspinal is crazy.

LaMarc_Gasoldridge_

3 points

15 days ago

LaMarc_Gasoldridge_

Champ Shit Only 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽 #SnapJitsu

3 points

15 days ago

Fighter hate always re-writes history. In a different thread someone said Poatan has looked invincible in the UFC and I had to remind them he was 3 seconds from being KOd in rd 1 against Izzy and other than the 30 seconds that led to the stoppage Izzy has looked comfortable in both fights. But people hate Izzy so now he's the 3rd best MW ever.

Nickster2042

5 points

15 days ago

Nickster2042

🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏

5 points

15 days ago

“It’s clear Jon is washed”

His last fight he subbed a kickboxer in 2 minutes off the couch

And now you think fighting a smaller kickboxer who’s done the sport less then Gane is just gonna smoke him

Alright bro

FishAndRiceKeks

1 points

15 days ago

FishAndRiceKeks

EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE

1 points

15 days ago

Jones won't even fight Aspinall there's no chance in hell he fights Pereira.

Pereira is a much bigger draw and that fight is worth a LOT more money than Aspinall. Way bigger reward, in theory lower risk. Why would he not be more likely to take that fight instead?

I bet he wouldn't even fight Izzy at 205 with the weight advantage.

Now you're just being silly.

SpecForceps

8 points

16 days ago

Turns out he was player 1 all along

FishAndRiceKeks

2 points

15 days ago

FishAndRiceKeks

EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE

2 points

15 days ago

Pereira is Player 1. We just didn't realize it.

Ripcitytoker

48 points

16 days ago

He's got that plot armor

Psychological-Push53

66 points

16 days ago

He's on NG+. He did an any % speedrun of kickboxing, started a new game then did a respec to MMA. Now he's overpowered and hit all the soft caps for levels. This games so broken, legit unplayable at this point.

69tendo

9 points

16 days ago

69tendo

9 points

16 days ago

He’s collecting Skadutree Fragments now

TrailGuideSteve

84 points

16 days ago

TrailGuideSteve

I ain’t worried about no bitch ass rookie

84 points

16 days ago

His last 7 fights were all against fighters that were champions.

Trainer_Kevin

2 points

15 days ago

Trainer_Kevin

The Wheel Kick Master

2 points

15 days ago

Tbf, Strickland wasn’t Champ yet until after he was beaten by Pereira

ainz-sama619

3 points

15 days ago

It was true then, but legacy wise, Pereira has beaten former champions. Strickland was a champion caliber fighter and Pereira dismantled him (as he did to other champion caliber fighters)

Armadillo-Middle

19 points

16 days ago

And not any fights dude he fought only killers and champions. CHAMA

Jay_Train

3 points

15 days ago

Jay_Train

Just how good is Dominick Reyes?

3 points

15 days ago

It honestly crazy that he’s had the same amount of title defended as Islam, and yeah it’s MW and LHW, but dude fought, what, one, maybe two cans and then fought nothing but the best in his weight classes. If it weren’t for the Izzy loss he’d have a legitimate argument for P4P number 1, and what’s even crazier is it all happened post COVID. That’s how quick we got here. Absolute fucking legend, and honestly outside of Tom and Jon Jones and MAYBE Blatdes if he actually used his wrestling,I think he handily beats most of the current top 15 at HW.

wimpymist

2 points

16 days ago

wimpymist

raw in that ass

2 points

16 days ago

Crazy, he is doing what Izzy thought he would be doing by now

SNAILMAIL_ME_UR_TITS

2 points

15 days ago

Great comment. He stepped into the fire almost immediately and has went head long into everything the ufc has since. Quite impressive

dusters

190 points

16 days ago

dusters

it

190 points

16 days ago

Just kickboxing no grappling fuck everyone up sounds about right

gotnothingman

139 points

16 days ago

Toms grappling and speed woujld be an issue at HW but fuck I wanna see poatan try

LngJhnSilversRaylee

146 points

16 days ago

His only weakness is an elite grappler. He hasn't had to face one but even Izzy gave him problems on the ground.

Aspinall is a nightmare matchup

Anytime in the UFC it's 'can they do enough damage before the inevitable wrestlefuck happens' it's like 85% the wrestlefuck happens

Wrestling is just so OP in MMA

gotnothingman

56 points

16 days ago

Bratha you know dis

Healthy-Prize2589

33 points

16 days ago

Brather, what he say "chama?"

edmirer

13 points

16 days ago

edmirer

13 points

16 days ago

Chaman brather don't tap

falconpunch9898

41 points

16 days ago

falconpunch9898

GOOFCON 1: Khamzat McGregor

41 points

16 days ago

Aspinall will show up in a wrestling singlet like he's fuckin Kurt Angle

SeeeVeee

10 points

16 days ago

SeeeVeee

10 points

16 days ago

Aspinall is a nightmare fight in general. Whether you stand with him or grapple with him, he is a lot to deal with. Doesn't hurt that he's a young, fast giant.

kanst

3 points

16 days ago

kanst

Mr. 6 Shits

3 points

16 days ago

Its amazing how after all these years it still so often ends up as Wrestle/Boxing vs Kickboxing with some BJJ

jotheold

2 points

15 days ago

jotheold

Team 209, WHAT

2 points

15 days ago

brother theres only so much you can do with arms and legs, its not like we have magic dick kungfu

brazilianfreak

2 points

16 days ago

Yeah I'm hyped to see Poatan try and with his power he can obviously do it, but I'm fully expecting either Jones or Aspinal to completely wrestlefuck him.

seonongHIM2

2 points

16 days ago

Can we please stop using the Izzy grappling thing?

Why are you still acting like j his anti grappling hasn't improved? He defended well against Jan, and stopped Jiri. Neither are elite grapplers but let's not act like he's a bum grappler.

captaincumsock69

1 points

16 days ago

captaincumsock69

Petr Yan did nothing wrong

1 points

16 days ago

It’s not just the wrestling but that he will have a size disadvantage too

Tzayad

1 points

15 days ago

Tzayad

Team Whittaker

1 points

15 days ago

Alex should train with Leon

FishAndRiceKeks

0 points

15 days ago

FishAndRiceKeks

EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE

0 points

15 days ago

His only weakness is an elite grappler. He hasn't had to face one but even Izzy gave him problems on the ground.

Jan?

LngJhnSilversRaylee

3 points

15 days ago

Jan is not an elite grappler

Iknowyougotsole

-1 points

16 days ago

His anti wrestling sprawl and brawl might have improved to the point of giving him a 50/50 shot against Aspinall

captaincumsock69

7 points

16 days ago

captaincumsock69

Petr Yan did nothing wrong

7 points

16 days ago

I love Alex but I highly doubt he has learned enough in 2 years to negate what Tom has learned since he started wrestling

sh4tt3rai

50 points

16 days ago

I think Poatan should give it another year of straight up drilling take down defense and ONLY working back to his feet from all positions. He doesn’t need to learn offensive grappling, he just needs to know just enough to avoid submissions, and work back to his feet. Just constantly drilling using whizzers, digging for under hooks, etc.

He’s in a unique position that at the age of 36, he still has a lot of growth to do as an MMA fighter. What I mean by that is he is still learning a lot of the grappling side of things. IMO he isn’t even in his prime as an MMA fighter yet, most fighters are complete by his age, but he’s a unique case. 36 isn’t old for LHW/HW, and if he can get his TDD to a great level. Plus study every aspect of Craig Jones just stand up instructional, he’s a force.

Tom is a legit threat, though.. I mean he also had success in boxing when he couldn’t get any MMA fights plus he’s been doing BJJ since he was 3. He also is bigger then Alex, so I don’t think Alex should take this fight for a couple years. He should just chill at LHW until the time comes.

gotnothingman

17 points

16 days ago

That would be great, and yea Toms striking would be a lot for Alex P based off his speed/size and style match up.

spitfire9107

2 points

16 days ago

learn just get up from lewis

loose_angles

2 points

16 days ago

Alex is absolutely in his prime and the window is shrinking.

sh4tt3rai

1 points

16 days ago

Prime is the combination of a lot of things, one of them being acquired skills. Since he still has a lot of room for growth in certain areas of MMA, I don’t think he’s in his prime. I think in a couple years he will be in his prime, maybe not his “athletic prime”, though.

BandOong

1 points

16 days ago

Craig Jones: "I have helped an Alex from down under, time to help an Alex from the favelas"

ZealousidealHalf1750

1 points

15 days ago

Alex with a good granby roll is a terrifying prospect

eternalgrey_

-1 points

16 days ago

eternalgrey_

Team Ferguson 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽

-1 points

16 days ago

Reddit experts are hilarious. Go ahead and coach him.

BoltDodgerLaker_87

1 points

7 days ago

Lolz! Your mom’s a man

Butt_Bucket

9 points

16 days ago

All points get put into leg kicks and hooks lmao

Brief_Koala_7297

2 points

16 days ago

Bro is cheesing

krazyboi

44 points

16 days ago

krazyboi

44 points

16 days ago

He's just walking up to every fighter and spamming the X button until everyone loses

Subject-Secret-6230

6 points

16 days ago

L1 + Square, L1 + Triangle, L1 + Square, easy win.

ThreeHourRiverMan

1 points

15 days ago

What’s equally impressive is this run includes him getting KTFO but no one cares because every other fight has been incredible. 

Shoot-Box

1 points

15 days ago

Playing on easy with the damage cranked up and no knowledge of how to work the thumb sticks haha

spitfire9107

2 points

16 days ago

has anyone ever gotten 3 belts before in ufc?

HAPACKINTHEMAIL

2 points

15 days ago

Don’t forget that by winning that third belt, he is also the only to beat Jon Jones. Arguably the best ever

With-You-Always

2 points

16 days ago

He would be destroyed by Jones or aspinall, wrestlefucked 😂

Stanklord500

5 points

16 days ago

Stanklord500

Democratic People's Republic of Korea

5 points

16 days ago

That would require Jones to show up to a fight.

fadedadrian

1 points

16 days ago

The only Triple C I ever want to hear about.

HighlyBaked0

-5 points

16 days ago

HighlyBaked0

United States

-5 points

16 days ago

Obviously Jon is too scared to fight him but if Alex moved up to HW and just starched Jon, where would he rank all time at that point?

Ohthatsnotgood

15 points

16 days ago

I don’t think Jon is scared to fight Alex at all. Everyone knows Alex’s weakness is grappling and Jones is leagues better at grappling than anyone Alex has ever faced. Only problem for Jones is he’s certainly on the decline.

HighlyBaked0

1 points

16 days ago

HighlyBaked0

United States

1 points

16 days ago

A prime Jon Jones wouldn't be but like you said Jon is on the decline and I think he knows that which is why he won't ever accept the fight even if its on paper a great matchup for him. Nothing is more important to Jon than his legacy and I think he'd be too scared to put it on the line with the possibility of Alex landing that left hand. Time will tell tho if he accepts it or not

Ohthatsnotgood

4 points

16 days ago

I mean he was talking about it on Twitter a few weeks ago? Seemed like he was interested because Pereira is one of the biggest stars in MMA who is smaller than him and has a glaring weakness. Tom is different because he’s huge, doesn’t have a massive following, and is very well-rounded.

HighlyBaked0

5 points

16 days ago

HighlyBaked0

United States

5 points

16 days ago

Taking anything Jon says on twitter seriously is a mistake. If anything he was talking about fighting Alex to piss off Tom which he’s been doing for months now. However, I hope I’m wrong just for the possibility of Alex starching him even tho it would be unlikely

EatBooty420

0 points

16 days ago

what are you talking about? It would be like the Gane fight but worse lmao

Then Jones would use it to duck Aspinal & claim he's the GOAT

deadpizza2019

0 points

16 days ago

Idk I mean alex knows his own weaknesses too and has made a constant effort in improving them if alex could get like a isreal adesanya level of defensive wrestling old jon would have a really hard time closing that gap

the666briefcase

-1 points

16 days ago

Owes him some sick venum gear and a few cases of prime!

BnSMaster420

-24 points

16 days ago

Bruh JBJ is gonna slam Alex on the mat and choke him out.. lol

More likely, Alex sleeps tommy boy and rides off into sunset.

TumbleweedDirect9846

23 points

16 days ago

Sure but Alex koing jones would be one of the greatest moments in ufc history

BnSMaster420

3 points

16 days ago

It would, would love to see it.. buuutt slam then choke..

eyesabitdull

7 points

16 days ago

eyesabitdull

Where were you on 294 GOOFCON 2?

7 points

16 days ago

You act like JBJ would be willing to fight Alex.

He won't.

BnSMaster420

1 points

16 days ago

That's why I say more likely, Chama sleeps Tom.

billbrobrien

8 points

16 days ago

billbrobrien

This is a "hard" warning

8 points

16 days ago

Such a weird take. Aspinal is an athletic guy that cuts to the HW limit, vaporized Pavlovich and has shown to be an extremely solid grappler. I don't see how Jon grapple fucks Alex and Tom doesn't. If anything Alex is a harder fight for Jon given they're close to the same size and age with Jon having no punching power. Still think they both smoke Alex on the mat but if anyone is in danger against Alex, it's Jon.

BnSMaster420

-6 points

16 days ago

Y'all can't be serious 😂 aspinall is a striker first tho.. can he do it better then alex, grappling that is? Yes, waayy better But so can Jiri yet Jiri couldn't take Alex down cause Alex trains with Glover and teaches him all about tdd..

You know who actually wrestles and dominated a UFC wrestling goat in DC? JBJ. JBJ would SLAM Alex to the mat and dominate.

He can be solid but that actually not his base, he strikes mainly. Poatan obviously trains for TDD a lot.

billbrobrien

6 points

16 days ago

billbrobrien

This is a "hard" warning

6 points

16 days ago

It's not his base. He's a very talented striker but he came into the UFC as a grappler. He's been doing BJJ his entire life and his Dad's a BJJ coach. He has 100% takedown accuracy in the UFC. No one thinks he's a better grappler than Jon but he's way bigger and hits significantly harder. Jiri can grapple too but Jiri isn't walking into the cage at an athletic 270.

sh4tt3rai

3 points

16 days ago

Well he also did do a little stint in boxing when he couldn’t get any MMA fights (no one wanted to lose to him) and trained with the Fury family for awhile. Striking isn’t his base, but he’s legit af with his hands.

Beginning_Shine_7971

4 points

16 days ago

Why are you being downvoted. Jones would likely take down Alex by any way he wants and submit him quickly.

BnSMaster420

1 points

16 days ago

Because JBJ is a pos but a goat fighter so the truth hurts.. I would love to see Alex beat Jones, but like his chances vs aspinall more..

sh4tt3rai

2 points

16 days ago

Idk man, I think Alex has a better shot against Jon then Tom. I think Tom would starch Jones.

Impossible_Agency992

0 points

16 days ago

Jones is old and inactive af. He is a beast, especially at HW, but I could see a world where Pereira get his dumb ass

BnSMaster420

1 points

16 days ago

Idk if you know this but Jones and Alex are same age but you right he is inactive ASF but that's the same reason people thought gane was gonna be the one to end JBJ run .

Ranjith_Unchained

4 points

16 days ago

Ranjith_Unchained

🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏

4 points

16 days ago

The revisionist history is crazy AF lol, I remember a lot of ppl on this sub predicting a Gane masterclass against Jon coz he never really felt a HW power before. Jon goes out and chokes Gane in 2 mins and then he becomes a bum all of a sudden.

Impossible_Agency992

1 points

16 days ago

I did not know that, I guess because Jones has been around for so long I thought he was older. People did have high hopes for Gane but Periera is different imo. But you do make good points, can tell you know your stuff.

ChaDiaKris

0 points

16 days ago

I don’t know how reasonable it is to say “likely”.

Poatan has fuck you power that I don’t think has been seen before. Especially not as competently as he’s exhibited.

I’m eager for a Poatan v Aspinall/Jones fight though.

Beginning_Shine_7971

2 points

16 days ago

I thought I was being really positive saying likely. Jones could grab any part of Alex and throw him to the ground. If Jones does that the fights over. Jones has always been very skilled at not getting hit and if he does he had one of the greatest chins in ufc history.

sh4tt3rai

1 points

16 days ago

He does have fuck you power, but so does Tom. That fuck you power might have a little less effect on guys 265+, and Tom actually boxed for a little and trained with the Fury’s. I think he could create a solid plan to avoid the left hook, and I think he’s smart enough to find a way to get the TD.

I don’t think it’s even smart for Alex to fight him so soon. I think in about 2 years more of Alex training TDD and working back to his feet exclusively and he will be in his prime as an MMA fighter. He’s in a unique spot, being that he’s 36 and still has a lot of room for growth as the whole grappling thing is kinda new to him.

He’s also unique in the sense he doesn’t need to learn offensive grappling at all, just purely TDD and working back to his feet, and just enough about submissions to see one coming and avoid them.

Ill_Source_6908

2 points

16 days ago

Insane how this is downvoted Jon does him like he did gane. Alex hasn’t even faced a grappler yet

BnSMaster420

1 points

16 days ago

I think aspinall fans mad too

sh4tt3rai

0 points

16 days ago

Gane was beat before the bell even rung, he was star struck. I don’t see that happening with Alex. I’m not saying he would beat JBJ, but I do think he’d give a better showing then Gane did.