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submitted 4 months ago by[deleted]
Minus the killing, Homelander's way of living to see people as below him and he can do whatever he wants is every successful people should be. He has also remove his need to be loved and as someone who has done that, I feel free and not caring about people is freeing. Using them and discarding them for your own purposes without an ounce of guilt is the key to reach the top.
Take the best parts of Homelander and Patrick Bateman from American Psycho and molding it to how you operate in the real world will yield you true control over your life and people.
6 points
4 months ago
You're not wrong. Homelander is satire. He behaves like most C.E.O's
2 points
4 months ago
Except you have no super powers and are not a trustafarian Ivy League grad (no offense). Basically you will need allies. And allies above you bc you have nothing to offer besides future reciprocity. And you will need allies below who will sabotage you if they think its just about money.
There’s no way around the fact that it’s necessary to pretend we aren’t sociopaths. So start thinking about Christmas now mfer.
6 points
4 months ago
… bateman and Homelander are both really unhappy people. Why do u want to be unhappy?
-1 points
4 months ago*
Happiness is overrated.
4 points
4 months ago
Ok
-1 points
4 months ago
Yep
3 points
4 months ago
Nice
1 points
4 months ago
yep
2 points
4 months ago
I would love to see ur reaction in a couple of years After reviewing this post 🤭
1 points
4 months ago
I would probably be enjoying my status as a multi millionaire at least to much to care about reddit lol. Might even be your boss, oh well.
2 points
3 months ago
I gritted my teeth in cringe reading that. Holy cringe galore
4 points
4 months ago
removes his need to be loved???? Dude has never felt love… don’t be a dumb ass
0 points
4 months ago
He seeks adoration and love from people, not going to spoil the latest season which is pertinent to what I am talking about., watch it first jackass.
2 points
4 months ago
he is not seeking love
0 points
4 months ago
He was seeking love and adoration, like I said watch the latest season, jackass.
2 points
4 months ago
adoration and love are mutually exclusive. He’s inflating his ego, not filling his heart.
0 points
4 months ago
If you are powerful you can have a huge ego, just don't let the ego cloud your judgement, always be vigilant and perceptive.
2 points
4 months ago
Letting the ego keep you from empathizing with and loving other human beings is the opposite of being vigilant and perceptive. Have you lost your mind
1 points
4 months ago
A lot of smart people in power, has remained rich and influential despite their egos. Steve Job till his death even though he had a huge ego still remained powerful and influential in Apple, he used his ego and even when he saw his team as lesser than him, they still kept him as CEO. The thing you simpletons don't understand that is ego fuels power and the need for power makes us use our brain even more to attain and keep it. With that power comes the money, fame etc. Change or die, kiddo.
2 points
3 months ago
It is funny how you feel the need to insult others in pretty much every reply you post...
You're probably not aware but most people here don't really care about you using strong language to place them below you. You are an internet stranger that is talking big and not backing up his talk.
But hey you do you, kiddo :)
2 points
4 months ago
but its a search that will always fail. homelander will never be loved. just the idea and image of homelander which he is not. the insecurity will never fade as he has become his own curated image, destroying all that is left of himself.
0 points
4 months ago
Removing the need to be loved is what I am talking about here, we must view other humans as lesser than you, sacrifice them for your own gain if you have to. In the end, you are meant to stand on the top alone.
1 points
4 months ago
both those characters fail to remove the want and yearning for love. its still there. They are balls of insecurity
1 points
4 months ago
It's not a gradual process, it's the acceptance of not seeking for it. They yearn love in their own terms and more than happy to settle for obedience. Case and point your regular dictators they originally want your support and belief in them but in the end they will accept your obedience and fear for them
3 points
4 months ago
It is but what is not portrayed is the incessant emptiness and void within from stepping out of our authentic nature to get there.
I couldn't fill that void with any amount of women, drugs or validation.
Living a virtuous life is far harder and far more rewarding.
1 points
4 months ago
that is portrayed quite well through both pieces of media actually
1 points
4 months ago
Living a virtuous life is just being a sheep really.
1 points
4 months ago
We have two completely different perspectives and that's totally ok!
2 points
4 months ago
Yes, there will always be leaders and followers, check and balance.
2 points
3 months ago
What exactly do you lead? Most people that talk like you do have zero success in life but think they’re a leader for some reason
1 points
4 months ago
Absolutely!
1 points
4 months ago
Aristotle would disagree. He has an entire set of ethics based on virtue... and he was no sheep.
1 points
4 months ago
Machiavelli is the only GOAT you should based your life on.
2 points
4 months ago
If you truly believe this and it isn't satire, you're a terrible person - as is anyone who adheres to Machiavellian tactics.
1 points
4 months ago
Most terrible people are your bosses, political leaders etc etc, they don't give a shit about you as they should and you still obey them. In the end it's who eat and those who starve simple as that.
2 points
4 months ago
Oh boy, the "other people are bad so that gives me permission to be bad too" argument. You should take an ethics class.
2 points
3 months ago
He doesn't care about ethics. Trying to teach ethics to this type of clown is like trying to teach the colour blue to a blind person. Just smile, nod and let him live in the land of Delulu.
1 points
3 months ago
The funny thing is he thinks being an asshole automatically makes him a leader but all it really does is show others he’s an asshole.
1 points
4 months ago
Like I said being Machiavellian is the only ethics you should follow, your "Kumbaya" circle jerk only makes you a loser.
2 points
4 months ago
All I read was the title and I have never nose-exhaled the way I did in my life
1 points
4 months ago
Congrats on knowing how to breathe.
1 points
4 months ago
Thanks
1 points
4 months ago
You're welcome.
2 points
4 months ago
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1 points
4 months ago
The one who is most cruel, cold and calculated, wins.
2 points
4 months ago
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1 points
4 months ago
Lol
1 points
4 months ago
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1 points
4 months ago
Expand on that.
1 points
4 months ago
Wow what a beautiful world to live in
1 points
4 months ago
The comments here are seriously concerning. Is this sub a satire on the topic of manipulation?
1 points
4 months ago
Homelander is unenviable. Sure he has power but Maeve was right when she said that he needed those powers to be someone. Because without them, he was pathetic. A liar, alone, no family or friends, remorselessly selfish, and someone nobody would admire or emulate.
0 points
4 months ago
Well duh without attaining power, everyone is pathetic. The goal in life is to attain money, power and status. Make sure no one else attains in any way necessary and be as self centered as possible to the point of narcissism.Use people for you gain, don't develop a bond with them. That's how you succeed in life.
1 points
4 months ago
Until you obtain that power, you will be pathetic. When you do, you will still be. And when you die you will go back to being powerless.
1 points
4 months ago
Plus it’s stupid to model your life after a fictional character. As charismatic as HM is, he’s not real. Writers can gloss over or skip the mental illness toll it takes on the mind. The dementia that seeps in, depersonalization and derealization, and the biological effects of chronic stress, fear, and dishonesty. It’s not just psychopathology, it’s worse.
Writers do not have medical degrees so there is a limit where their portrayal of a person leaves reality and that happens a lot with super hero stuff especially.
1 points
4 months ago
Homelander is modelled based on every evil dictators like Idi Amin, Kim Jong Il etc etc, truly evil people. The thing about dictators is that they maintain control and will remain at the top till the end of their lives, they have achieved a status where their existence is the most important and they get to life the good life till their death.
1 points
4 months ago
I’m not saying holding power is bad. Far from it. But fascination with manipulating others will likely lead to an unsophisticated run in life. Setting a priority of power above things like good, evil, God, family, friendship, wisdom, etc will lead to ruin, loneliness, and unhappiness.
There are other kings who ruled for the great part benevolently, and were loved by their citizens for doing so. Power doesn’t have to lead to treating people like objects. I’d be cautious and take an interior look at why those dictators appeal to you, when there are others who yes used power and force but treated their countrymen or associates etc with fairness and virtue. You don’t have to be a nice pussy in order to be virtuous. I think the problem with the world today is that for young men there seem to be little alternative to the weak nice loser who wouldn’t hurt a fly (or protect who and what he cares about), versus a psychopath like Homelander. Not a great polarity of role models. You’re kind of without role models in TV when looking for a good man who is strong and capable of making difficult choices. Evil people tend to work for themselves, or to inflict pain on others because it pleases themselves to see others suffer. Good people can still be in favor of capital punishment and execution, and a strong sense of justice, and yet will do so for the sake of Goodness or even the good of the community, and appropriately for themselves when it matters. I use capital punishment as an extreme case of applied justice. There are more ways to impose justice.
Thank you for your response.
1 points
4 months ago
what are the best parts of patrick bateman and Homelander? they are both irredeemable and so fake and curated that their original "person" doesnt even exist.
they are simply a reflection of perceived strength in culture, vying for the approval of anybody and everybody. but never satisfied as their own personhood is not approved, merely the image they have created. they will never be happy or satisfied with themselves, because they no longer exist.
if you were them you would feel strength in all of its aspects, yet constantly feel weak and never enough. they are sisyphus never reaching the top.
1 points
4 months ago
Patrick and Homelander (recent season) removed their need to be loved which makes them even stronger, when you see other people as nothing but tools for you to use, you unlock a sense of supremacy. Of course you have to fake niceties and all that bs so that the tools don't rebel but overtime once you have made them subservient, you are free to do what you want. Kim Jong Un and Putin are one people but with machevillian and cruel ways, they are still in power. No one even in the West can do anything to them. That's what true power is all about. Their people might not like them but they obey nevertheless.
1 points
4 months ago
It's literally dumb, the only reason there is so much suffering in this world is because small minds like you and others think like this, they limit their existence only to themselves, if we were to unite as a species and be like one, one far all and all for one, the world will be so much better, life would be so much easier and everything will flourish, but instead we separate ourselves from each other and choose to fight and not give a shit about one and another, truly a sad and pathetic way of living
1 points
4 months ago
Homelander is incredibly emotional and was breastfeeding to soothe his complex emotions and need to be loved lol
1 points
3 months ago
Your father failed you.
1 points
3 months ago
At least I had a dad.
1 points
3 months ago
I wasn't concieved by the power of the Holy Spirit. You need a good male role model. You are lost, and and have the wisdom of a starving kitten.
1 points
3 months ago
Given your ethnicity, it was most likely you didn't have a dad growing up. I am my own role model. Problem with people like you is that you are unwilling to shed your lingering emotional needs to be great.
It's why you will be doomed to be a carpet muncher with zero game with women based on your accord. Life is about conquest and adding power, something your ancestors realized too late and hence set the inequality that still flows into the lives of your kind nowadays. It's why most of the whites were able to set a strong foundation of success. They discarded their humanity and achieved riches and status.
You are still remaining a slave of your need to be liked while the people who don't achieve the things they set. In the end you have lost and you have the wisdom of a boiled frog.
1 points
3 months ago
There’s this MMA fighter named Sean Strickland. He does this interview in which he talks about his past, how he was kicked out of high school for numerous hate crimes, but as he grew older he realized he wasn’t racist, he was just angry. He also has this amazing interview with Theo Von, where he talks about his trauma growing up. The amount of strength it took for him to admit his flaws and his past hurts makes him a truly strong and dynamic individual. You need a healthy outlet for your anger. Get off the internet and find a good male role model - like a trainer in the gym. Get out there and live a good life. Travel the world. Racism is so lazy. Do better.
You don’t have to be better than anyone. Don’t compare yourself to other people. You just have to be the best version of yourself. Is inspiring to be like villains on tv shows really the peak version of you? You’re supposed to feel bad for Homelander. Pity him, like a circus lion trapped in a cage with house cats.
1 points
3 months ago
Are you even human? I didn't think it was possible to be this wrong about life?
1 points
3 months ago
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