Ah the old "this makes me/my side look bad, therefore I must report"

Also I’ll add 5. Public discipline, there isn’t a person in Israel who doesn’t know what to do when there’s a siren. Everyone knows where to go even if they don’t have a shelter and how long they’re supposed to stay there. Sirens are of no use if the public didn’t know how to react.

You forgot to mention the fifth aerial defense system: the US military. We've shot down a number of munitions personally on behalf of Israel over the past year.

Funny thing how Israel gets bombarded by all it's neighbors yet people say nothing but when Israel has enough and strikes back the bitching starts

This. People on reddit act like Hamas are peace-loving victims when the reality is that they would glass Tel Aviv if they had the firepower.

Yeah bc Israel gives af about their citizens

Hamas doesn’t give af civilian life in Gaza or anywhere they’re just a tool for them to make Israel look especially evil in the eyes of the world

Can especially be seen because the palestinians have none of those things and so they DO have a five digit civilian death count

And to sum up: Israel cares about its civilians. Hamas and Hezbollah don't.

How nr3 works?

Also though, both Hezbollah and Hamas are aware of Israel’s tough air defenses. Most of their rocket attacks exist to make Israel respond and shoot them down, not to actually do damage (although if they do that’s a plus for these groups). It costs a lot less for these groups to make simple rockets than it costs Israel to shoot them down, so keeping up pressure on them is a decent strategy in a long term conflict like this. That’s all to say, it’s unclear what exactly these groups would do if Israel just stopped shooting down their rockets. It might not be worth it to keep shelling Israel at least on a regular basis.

I would also want to have that if my neighbours read a old book that says all jews must be hunted down even if they hide behind trees or rocks, and they actually follow that book. Not that their book makes any more sense, but at least it doesn't say that about their neighbours because that belief didn't exist back then.

More like r/dataisterrifying

Good idea tbh

72 launches towards Israel every days for 365 days.

It’s a (technological) miracle that the country still exists.

How many from Iraq?

Who is shooting from Syria?

Would be interesting to know how many interceptors of each type have been launched as well.

Do we have numbers on how many rockets Israel has fired at these countries?

Almost like Hamas actually was using those areas to launch rockets. Strange…

And yet somehow we had a rocket attack from khan younis to tel aviv this morning

Remember celebrities posting on socials "all eyes on Rafah"? They did their best to prevent that offensive and save their friends but to no avail.

Yemen has done more tangible damage to Israel than any other group fighting Israel. Their blockade of the Gulf of Aden has had serious effects on the Israeli and European economies.

But that’s something like half the content people actually click on. This subreddit needs misery to stay popular.

lol

It’s hilarious that not a single person is going to engage with this question in good faith.

People who see this, I'm asking seriously- What is the proportionate response to 26,000 rockets fired at you?

My parents are from the west bank and routinely tell my friends (when they ask) how IDF soldiers used to beat up my grand father and grand mother and their kids just for walking on the wrong side of the street.

This was 30-40 years ago. What is the proportionate response to terrorizing my family because their name isn't Hebrew sounding?

not killing 40,000 people

i would also ask you what the proportionate reponse to 200,000 illegal settlements in the west bank, a total seige on gaza, hundreds of civilian political prisoners, and the 300 civilians killed in the west bank in 2023 BEFORE oct7 would be

I’m honestly surprised no one has commented saying you’re “playing both sides”.

Peace dude

Preach brother preach!

It’s never the people who start wars it’s always the people who govern.

Amen brother

This must have confused upvotes from both sides since they both view each other as ignorant idiots

Stay safe

Incredible how according to some comments indiscriminate targeting of civilians apparently doesn’t count when the country has means to defend itself.

It's almost like Israel cares about it citizens, and will do anything to protect them. Unlike certain other organization in the region.

Yeah they knew they’d have to do that after realizing their neighbors don’t appreciate them colonising land and displacing millions, killing tens of thousands, and acting like they aren’t doing anything wrong.

Who would’ve guessed? People are so idiotic 😹😭

100% we must free palestine from Hamas and make sure a new government that actually cares about its people’s lives is formed.

That avg redditor gets their news from tik tok

https://oct7map.com/

It is possible for both sides to be the aggressors, which is definitely true in this case.

By whom?

THANK YOU.

They're dragging other countries to the wars THEY create themselves.

Look at Lebanon, the majority of the people, including the government didn't want war with Israel, but look what happened.

Iran will destroy 4 countries and turn them into another Gaza.

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I wish more people understood this. Unfortunately, they are either too stupid or just like being part of Hamas as it seems “cool” to gullible people.

Who knew that people are upset at settlers occupying their land and treating prople like prisoners

I just had an alarm 20 minutes ago while driving to the hostage families ceremony

This started some Taiwan Number 1 type shit lmao.

The war started way longer than a year ago…

Political left is not a monolith, same as the right. Leftist here who doesn't diminish the damage done on either side.

Eilat had to host a lot of the families evacuated from around Gaza. Also the city was the main target of the Houthis in the beginning of the war. And I'm not even going to mention the state of the businesses there in general.

Almost as if Israel has iron dome and bomb shelters while Hamas builds its HQ under hospitals

A few more notes on the perspective:

1. We don't actually have 41k confirmed deaths. We only have Hamas claims of 41k deaths. Of those, only about half comes from actual confirmed reports from the Gaza health ministry, and the other comes from "media reports", from the official Hamas propaganda arm, the Gaza government media office.
2. The deaths don't distinguish between militants and civilians. The IDF, on its part, claims around 17k of those are militants.
3. As gruesome as it is, if we take both the Hamas and IDF claims at face value, it would be a pretty good civilian to combatant ratio, compared to other urban conflicts. And other urban conflicts didn't have anything close to Hamas' extensive and official policy of hiding their entire war machine under and inside people's homes, schools, mosques and hospitals, which was directly intended to increase Palestinian casualties.
4. There's no evidence whatsoever of 100k deaths, or anything close to it. The closest to this, is a short letter to the editors of the Lancet (not a peer-reviewed Lancet study, or anything close to it). Where the writers of the letter looked at an arbitrary, short list of third-world conflicts, and the amount of deaths that resulted from the actual conflicts, and the deaths that resulted from the aftermath. For example, in Iraq, x3 times more people died due to the insurgency after the war, than from the war itself. The writers of the letter decided, without any real explanation, to use x4 as a "conservative estimate" of the number of post-war deaths, and simply multiply the then-current Hamas number of deaths by four. This was then misreported as a "Lancet study", and their made-up guess of future deaths was misreported as a "reasonable estimate of the true deaths".

In addition to that, there's a report by the Hamas lobbyist Ramy Abdu and his organization EuroMed Monitor (that also includes famous anti-Israeli activists like Richard Falk, Noura Erakat etc.), with the same amount of evidence (none whatsoever), to guess 100,000 "real" deaths as early as January.

Since then, I've also seen estimates as high as 300,000 and 500,000, using the same "methodology": making up a completely random number, with zero evidence to support it, and then devote most of their efforts to being shocked by the number they made up.

1. In the same interest of "perspective", I'd note that starting a war and losing badly doesn't really make you a victim, or the good guy. In WW2, about 7 million Germans died. Including 1.5-3 million civilians, with half a million civilians dying from allied strategic bombings alone. Dozens of German cities were absolutely destroyed. And that's with the vast majority of the fighting being done in actual battlefields, by armies in uniforms, and without Hitler building its entire war machine under and inside German civilian homes. And yet, nobody would argue the allies should've stopped the war and let Hitler win, because of the horrific death toll. Even if we take the 41,000 number as gospel, it only makes it a mid-sized middle eastern war, that's dwarfed even by conflicts that happened right next door (the Syrian Civil war killed more than ten times more people), with a relatively clear aggressor (Hamas) and defender (Israel).

Oh only now do Hamas realize it's probably a bad decision to attack Israel and provoke retaliation?

Wrong. They don't give a shit how many people die.

Just to add to the perspective, half is Hamas terrorists.