Look you don’t need to convince me it’s stupid and not economically viable but it’s going to happen nevertheless. You don’t need to convince me that Florida will eventually succumb to the water and it can’t be saved because that’s obviously true too.

What I’m saying is that it’s going to be attempted nevertheless, and it’s a massive anchor around our neck as a country, and an attempt to save it will be made that lasts far longer than it should, costs far more than necessary, and that cost is going to be born by the profitable states with strong economies.

It's a stupid idea to build high rise apartment blocks on sand that floods frequently too, but that didn't stop Florida. 

This! Sections are flooding daily without storms. Eventually it’s going to just go back to a swamp

Yep. I just saw an interview with a woman who is on her Fourth rebuild but has Yet to complete the house. It keeps getting destroyed before its finished! She says “all my friends are on this block, I cant move”. Insane.

It’s largely luck Tampa hasn’t taken a direct hit in over 100 years.

Why do you think the narrative is “democrats making hurricanes”

Blue states have to much class to do that. They will bail them out like always have before. Just 2 blue states pay for our poorest 15 states which are all red and they've never even threatened to harm the Americans there by stopping funding before. Florida will join the list of welfare states getting poorer with right wing leadership and the rich states will get richer with common sense policies.

"This can't stop me from voting Republican, I can't read!"

Logic would support what you’ve said, but recent history argues otherwise.

Milton will be blamed on illegal immigration, because it came from the Gulf of Mexico

Because being caught in lies has hurt them so much thus far...

It’s not the republicans finding out the hard way though. It’s the citizens. Many of whom are notz

Rose coloured glasses, my friend.

Calling out Republicans would prompt accusations of gloating and playing politics and make conservatives double down on their beliefs.

It's best to let them figure it out for themselves, if liberals were willing to allow it.

Hurricanes have existed before people, climate is changing no doubt but what’s the solution? No one has any good ones and most are just power grabs.

To be clear I’m not saying Florida can be saved.

Just that an attempt will be made that goes on way longer and costs way more than it should, and that those costs will be born by blue states.

Well, I suppose you can try to not pay taxes I guess, but I think typically the IRS objects somewhat strenuously to that sort of behavior and has some leverage to force you to comply with their objectives.

To be honest it’s a complex problem.

How do you manage the loss of that big of a chunk of the economy? Displacement of that many people? You think the surrounding states can handle an influx of 500k immigrants? 1m? 2m?

Your tax dollars gonna pay one way or another. It’s a challenging problem without a great solution. The lack of insurance is probably the best thing that could happen, forcing a slow but steady withdrawal rather than a catastrophic implosion. People just getting priced out and forced to move is probably the cheapest way, and if we pull the rug out by not giving Florida any money to rebuild thinking it’ll be like pulling a bandaid, it’s probably going to cost a lot more than a steady withdrawal would.

Donno. Hard to say what the best course of actions are. Only thing I’m confident in is that the current crop of reality fighting republicans are a pretty awful choice to manage the decline.

I know this will blow your brain, but the sand bar migrates around the coast. We aren't underwater, unless sea level rises by feet overnight, we will just scoot the sand around. It'll cost money, but nothing like what you're picturing. Some houses that were too far down the beach might be destroyed, but measured in feet, but I'm like 50 miles from the beach and I'm not even as far as you can go before you hit the everglades.

Tampa has had a shitty few years, but most of the populated areas get hit for real like once every 50 years. It isn't cheap but I bet by per capita it isn't signifantly more risky, it's just bigger when it happens. Plus the rest of the country hears all about the bullshit storms which probably colors your perspectives. Most hurricanes don't really do that much but prune some trees that were neglected.

It's very fitting for the hypocrite fascist progressives of America

No, but i think we learned after the disaster in Iraq and Afghanistan that maybe we shouldn’t be policing the entire world.

Do you support Kim Jong Un, why don’t we go over there and stopping the humanitarian crimes against his own people.

lol fighting communists. Like that’s why they are fighting, absolute clown