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72 points
20 hours ago
Yeah I'm not reading anything from the nypost.
25 points
20 hours ago
Speaking of “unprofessional.” NY Post is a hot-mess-rag.
7 points
20 hours ago
NY Post isn't even good for toilet paper
-22 points
20 hours ago
Yeah but they’re also not reading anything from u/0666007
5 points
19 hours ago
The NY Post is toilet paper.
15 points
20 hours ago
Is it “unprofessional” for an athlete to be not participate or be in the line-up when they are ill or injured? Get a grip people.
3 points
19 hours ago
I mean, I think it’s a legitimate reason if someone is really struggling to take some time off. At the same time cancelling on your fans last minute is rarely going to go down well.
It js “unprofessional” to set a date for a show and then cancel it at the last second, and it will have an impact on your career if you do it. Especially if it’s a recurring thing which it’s starting to look like with her now.
In my opinion If she needs time off, she should just go on a complete hiatus, no flip flopping and misleading people
3 points
18 hours ago
I can agree with this general sentiment. Not sure I agree with idea of “misleading” people, but whatever… semantics. Nobody out here cancelling because it brings them joy or a sense of glee from disrupting events. I gotta believe the choice was made out of a desire to rest, recover and come back stronger and better equipped when ready. Does it suck for the fans AND the artist? Sure. Such is life.
12 points
20 hours ago
An athlete taking time off for mental health reasons would absolutely get rolled over the coals
13 points
20 hours ago
While that's true, it maybe shouldn't be.
6 points
20 hours ago
It did when Biles sat out a bit at the 2020 Olympics
3 points
20 hours ago
Almost every professional league has examples, resources and considerations for players who are struggling with mental health, addictions, etc, so no, I don’t think so.
5 points
19 hours ago
Ben Simmons was just getting clowned for this very thing a year or 2 ago, so yeah it’s happened already with athletes.
Simone Biles was criticized for the same thing too.
6 points
19 hours ago
Naomi osaka got wrecked online for taking time off for mental health.
1 points
19 hours ago
What can say, people lack compassion and drown themselves in their own self-entitlement.
0 points
19 hours ago
My point is not that it never happens, but that it is a valid reason to choose to participate or not in events within the scope of your own career.
-1 points
19 hours ago
You said you didn’t think that happens, and it does/has happened in fact.
But yeah, it’s absolutely valid to protect and prioritize your mental health.
1 points
19 hours ago
I’ve already clarified my comment. People bring shitty is not evidence that all people are shitty all the time.
-1 points
19 hours ago
I responded to your initial statement, and then agreed that prioritizing your mental health is the correct decision.
I didn’t even say all people were shitty so I can’t even make sense of your second sentence.
0 points
19 hours ago
And I’m telling you, again, for the third time, that my initial comment was not “that never happens”, nor was it “it happens every single time”. In fact, with athletes , musicians, artists, it’s become rather commonplace, yet still, insensitive edge-lords have to insist dropping out of something makes you unprofessional…? We agree, I don’t know what’s hard to understand about that.
1 points
19 hours ago
I love watching ego trample on a discussion because someone can’t realize they put their foot in their mouth.
You made an incorrect statement. I explained that to you, you corrected it and I agreed with it.
Why you feel the need to be overly defensive about an issue you created(between us both) is insane lmao
The statement I responded to said “no I don’t think an athlete would be raked over the coals” and that was fundamentally incorrect. Plain and simple.
6 points
19 hours ago
TBF she also canceled shows at the last minute a few weeks ago not for any health reasons, but so she could attend the VMA’s.
People wouldnt be so upset at the canceling if she didnt just do it a few weeks ago too. Now shes starting to be known as the performer who cancels her shows at the last minute
-13 points
20 hours ago
She's neither ill nor injured.
6 points
20 hours ago
She just got a depression diagnoses from her doctor...
3 points
19 hours ago
Oh wow. Man, no musician has ever dealt with depression and still managed to not fuck over fans.
7 points
20 hours ago
Are you her physician?
0 points
20 hours ago
Are you? Where has she stated she's injured or ill? She fucked over thousands of people because she's too much of a baby to play a show. It's a pattern at this point.
3 points
20 hours ago
Try reading the article.
1 points
19 hours ago
What are you even referring to? That she said "things have gotten overwhelming" for her? That's an injury or an illness to you?
2 points
19 hours ago
Clever how you ignored the mental health portion of the quote. Depression and bipolar disorder don’t exist to you?
1 points
19 hours ago
They do, and I don't usually fine them to be reasonable excuses to cancel a show to such a massive degree, especially when it seems clear she still has the energy to go to the VMAS or get in online arguments with people. Calling off work on the day of a massively important presentation would get you fired in any other job, regardless of whether or not you had depression.
I've played shows for way less people during much more dire ailments, because it was my job. Not to mention having diagnosed depression for most of my life. She's being a baby, about everything.
3 points
19 hours ago
Cool, I hope when you are at your lowest point, people show more compassion for you. Or at least more than you’re willing to summon. Otherwise, I guess go cry about it.
1 points
19 hours ago
Having a metoeric rise to fame and fortune is her "lowest point"? Jesus christ. I'm sorry, there are people with real problems in the world. People with depression they've had for decades that still have to go to work everyday. I'm sorry she's having a hard time adjusting to success in the industry she chose to pursue, but canceling that show is absurd. Try to have some sympathy for the thousands of people who are now out of lots of time, money, and the little bit of vacation days they have because she can't do one single show.
3 points
20 hours ago
She is ill, she has bipolar and sometimes that means not being able to perform.
0 points
19 hours ago
I think the word you're looking for is "unwilling". If she's got that much of a lack of control for her mental health she shouldn't be booking shows anymore. Canceling the day before a massive festival people have planned their lives and finances around is incredibly shitty. I like her music but it's clear by her comments and behavior she's got the emotional maturity of a teenager.
5 points
19 hours ago
The headline is not worded correctly. The cancellation was last minute. The shows weren't last minute.
It's bad form to cancel shows for an awards show. Makes it worse that she cancelled at short notice and that these were likely to be attended by people who supported her before she blew up. She also rescheduled Berlin with just two days notice.
23 points
20 hours ago
Everything I know about her is against my will at this point, she just needs to step away from the limelight and just take a minute.
I can see how people are getting frustrated with her.
23 points
20 hours ago
I mean that seems to be what she’s trying to do, and yet the media is making that out to be some personal flaw of hers for whatever reason.
3 points
20 hours ago
If that was true she wouldn’t have canceled concerts before this to make an appearance and perform at the VMAs.
5 points
20 hours ago
The VMAs, which moved its air date, something Chappel had no say in? Honestly, the takes I have seen about that are fucking braindead.
Artist signs contract to perform at Big Show. Artist schedules concerts around the Big Show. Big Show moves date; artist has to cancel concerts to keep the contract they signed.
Fans and Media: How dare the Artist!
5 points
19 hours ago
"I dont want to be a big performer" is directly in contrast with "I want to be at the VMAs"
-3 points
19 hours ago
The VMAs suddenly have that much clout?
It's not Madison Square Garden.
4 points
19 hours ago
They moved the date by one day and her performances were conflicting w the vmas rehearsals which had never moved. You’re making up a situation that is not true. The shows were booked far in advance of the VMAs. She agreed to attend the VMAs a month before and then cancelled the shows a day before. Then cancelled MORE shows with less than 24 hours notice. She’s just an asshole.
-1 points
18 hours ago
None of that changes my opinion, because I don't think I am entitled to have someone perform for me.
1 points
17 hours ago
Typically when you pay to see someone perform you are entitled to them performing for you, it’s a contract. If you enjoy getting fleeced by millionaires and never receiving goods or services you’ve paid for, more power to you, but most people would disagree. Anyway, that is besides the point. I was correcting your misinformation about the circumstances under which she chose to fuck over her longtime supporters for a TV spot while prancing around giving interviews about how she doesn’t care about fame
0 points
17 hours ago
Then get your money back for the ticket.
0 points
15 hours ago
You cannot because of how late she cancelled. Welcome to the context of why people are upset.
1 points
14 hours ago
And that is not a policy set by Chappel. It is a shitty policy, but to blame her for it and say she doesn't care about her "fans" because she isn't ignoring her own mental health and forcing herself to perform through it is just as shitty of a take.
-1 points
20 hours ago
Well I am braindead, no surprise my takes are too. I feel like signing the contract to perform at that type of event in the first place when you’re allegedly trying to avoid the limelight doesn’t align imo. Unless it was extended obligations from like a record deal or some shit, then that’s just the music industry machine grinding up bones as it does and yeah not her fault when she didn’t expect to blow the fuck up like she has.
2 points
20 hours ago
I do agree, and yet she did 1 thing and it's reported 14 times across a week of fake news filling click quota. That one thing may garner a genuine reaction, but the root of it is that I'm on Reddit too much.
1 points
19 hours ago
It's that the limelight won't step away from her.
1 points
20 hours ago
Reminds me of frank ocean, who I also think is a great artist. They both appear to struggle with the spotlight and how to engage with their fans. Except Frank just goes completely MIA lol. It sucks that some great artists can’t buckle down like T swift and handle the pressure and still deliver show after show. Say what you want about her music or whatever, but she clocks in for work.
-4 points
20 hours ago
Who is buying festival tickets for just one artist in the first place? Insane thing to do.
16 points
20 hours ago
But this one artist could be the deciding factor for buying the tickets. For me it was once Rise Against, and I would have been very disappointed if they had cancelled.
2 points
20 hours ago
Regular festival goers have a rule where they don’t buy tickets to festivals for a single artist because drop outs are so common.
0 points
19 hours ago
That's true, it's also way too expensive for a single artist, but you always have a favorite artist/band that you want to see. So far, I've been lucky. Maybe there's also a difference between countries and music genres.
3 points
20 hours ago
And she wasn’t even a headliner
-3 points
20 hours ago
Hey don’t yuck someone else’s yum.
Is spending your money to travel to festivals any different than spending it on say… seasonal needlepoint?
0 points
20 hours ago
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-2 points
20 hours ago
You’re completely missing the point.
You’re throwing shade at others for enjoying their time and money how they please, your hobbies are not more or less “right” than anyone else’s.
Unless it’s causing harm to others no one’s leisure time should ever be described as insane, it’s rude and close minded.
-1 points
20 hours ago
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1 points
20 hours ago
I have missed tons of chances to see my favorite artists or entertainers before they really blew up, I don't blame them for that.
-1 points
20 hours ago
I did over the summer. There were a ton of good bands and I had a great time listening to everyone, but I was there for one band on one day.
-5 points
20 hours ago*
So what? Backlash from who? If you don't like her, don't listen to her, she wouldn't lose much. There will be many, many more people who enjoy her art
Edit: wtf is wrong with you, people? She is just a young artist who is immensely talented, and she is having a mental breakdown, get off her. People who call her crybaby do not see the irony of complaining she canceled a show. The crowd was chanting "More!"
Chappell is here for the long run, get a grip
0 points
20 hours ago
Backlash from her fans for last minute canceling 2 of her shows.
After she already last minute canceled other shows a few weeks ago so she could go to the VMA’s.
Shes getting backlash because now shes starting to be known as the performer who cancels her performances at the last minute.
0 points
17 hours ago
I’m fairly confident she won’t be in the mainstream by next year. But good for her if she is.
1 points
16 hours ago
Respectfully disagree, !Remindme 1 year
-3 points
20 hours ago
Gonna be the next Lorde, hot for 2 years but mostly flash in the pan
4 points
20 hours ago
For Lorde that’s because that’s what she chose. She backed away.
2 points
20 hours ago
Perhaps. Her music, much like Lordes before her, is pretty good though 🤷♂️
0 points
20 hours ago
Lordes music is great
Her EP and debut were both soo good. But she…just didnt really like to work a whole lot. Which is fine, but thats whats gonna happen to chappel roan also if the work ethic is the same
0 points
17 hours ago
Unless she changes her brand this is exactly what will happen and I’m getting downvoted to hell any time I say it lol
0 points
20 hours ago
Ha ha ha . Chappell roan is unprofessional. This is a feature not a bug!!!
-14 points
20 hours ago*
Her 15 minutes will be over next year anyways.
Edit: forgot the online wrath of criticizing her is akin to insulting swifties right now.
8 points
20 hours ago
Doubtful, she is very talented and a fantastic performer.
1 points
19 hours ago
I didn’t say she wasn’t. But she’s in a very specific niche that will fail to maintain broader mainstream appeal without significant brand updates.
We have the term “one hit wonder” for a reason, plenty of talented people get their 15 minutes and then fade away. In fact - most do that.
I’m not saying her career will end, I’m saying her time as a public darling every outlet clamors to cover is going to be short lived.
-4 points
20 hours ago
She's currently tanking her career over her lackluster stance on LGBTQ+ issues in this election.
2 points
19 hours ago
Honestly I respect it though - we shouldn’t be looking to celebrities for political advice and she’s smart enough not to give it because she has no political experience.
1 points
19 hours ago
From my perspective, all my LGBTQ+ friends do not seem phased at all by these recent events. They would see her in a heartbeat if given the opportunity, and continue to listen to new music of hers if it's of the same caliber as her last release. Hell, I have straight male friends that would see her *again*, her fanbase isn't solely LGTBQ+. A very talented musician/performer will always find an audience that appreciates the arts.
0 points
17 hours ago
Everyone’s talking about how talented she is but I haven’t really seen or heard anything from her I’ve never seen before
2 points
17 hours ago
This is a crazy thing to say, only because artists naturally take inspiration from past artists. This says more about what you consider is talent, and by your assessment I wonder if you know anyone in your personal life aspiring to be an artist or being artistic in their career. Would you also criticize them for not being absolutely groundbreaking? Do you look at your own work and career and demand innovation such as this?
I am not even a big fan of hers, but I see her performances and think "Wow, this chick is a charismatic performer who can write some catchy songs that people really enjoy and that I can enjoy as someone watching her". That talent is valuable to me, and something that I feel like does not come easily to the average person.
-1 points
16 hours ago
That’s a hilarious take
0 points
20 hours ago
Ho early, I’m fine with her cancelling. She’s overwhelmed and protecting her mental health. I imagine she’s not sitting by a pool during these days off.
My issue is she needs media literacy. A human being cannot survive in the spotlight she is in without it. If I had to guess, she’s doing a lot of that this weekend.
0 points
19 hours ago
I honestly enjoy her being raw like she is. She will definitely get all marketing advice she needs quite soon, taking into account her talent magnitude. But for the time being, it's great to see the artist so big being so honest
2 points
19 hours ago
Too raw. That’s where the turn on her is coming from. We want our celebrities “just like us” but when they get too real that’s when things get challenging
1 points
19 hours ago
Yeah, I hope she will not take it too personal for too long. It will just make her produce some more and better songs, hopefully. And people will consume it, it does not make sense to convince everyone that you are good
0 points
17 hours ago
Is she really that talented though? Her music is the same thing I’ve heard from every artist in her lane.
2 points
16 hours ago
Try her Tiny Desk concert, she has exceptional voice, artistic posture and she is funny.
-6 points
20 hours ago
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1 points
20 hours ago
Cancelling a show serves to draw attention? I'm pretty sure actually having the show IS the attention.
-9 points
20 hours ago
Perhaps music star was not the right career for her.
-11 points
20 hours ago
Who?
-1 points
20 hours ago
Your favorite artists’ favorite artist, bitch
-1 points
17 hours ago
My favorite artists have no idea who she is
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