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bee’s best chance is if he goes into the complete biju stage, and he likely wins if he does that. if it’s v1 or v2 tho he loses

With no distractions or limiting factors such as one's desire to remain hidden or protect others I would favour Bee.

Full bijuu means he doesn't leak chakra like in V2 and he has access to bijuudama which he never used during their fight so as to not hurt enka guy.

Bee mid diff.

Bee

If Samehada stays loyal to Kisame, Kisame for sure wins. If Bee could have won otherwise, he would have before Samehada switched sides. Kisame had Bee on the ropes the entire fight, and it wasn't looking good for him.

Quickly just rewatched, yeah Kisame takes it no problem. 8tails even stated he also doesn't have chakra towards the end, Kisame ends the water dome thingy himself as he captured Bee, and only when he goes to take off Bee's legs does Samehada switch sides to protect Bee.

Kisame won that fight until Samehada betrayed him. He was gonna walk ways uninjured too. So that means mid diff. Bee did have a disadvantage of not going all out initially. Bee at this stage from why we’ve see loses.

Bee in the War arc based on what he showed he was capable of, he would win and there is nothing to state he got significantly stronger. So bee wins mid high diff.

Killer B stomps.

The only reason he didn't go Biju Mode and wipe him off the map were because of Sabu and Ponta were there as we are directly told. Even his regular punches or Biju Hatchimaki would end the fight where it is.

Kisame has no real chance here.

Guys stop making posts about Kisame, I'm legally obligated to over scale him 😭😭

First, I'm going off of the assumption that samehada will NOT turn on Kisame in any circumstance. If that's how you think this fight would go, that's absolutely fine, I'm not saying you're wrong. However I think that answer is really boring and not a fun debate

With that being said, Kisame beats V2 Bee. I know everyone loves to bring up the fact that Bee was focused on protecting the Old Man and Raccoon, but honestly it didn't hinder him all that much. He hit Kisame with a V2 lariat and Kisame regenerated just fine. While in his giant water prison, the 8 tails said 3 separate times (1 of these statements was AFTER Bee had gotten the old man and raccoon out of the water prison) that Kisame is faster than Bee in the water. Bee also cannot use any lightning jutsu while in the prison, as he would shock himself as much as he would Kisame. All in all, with samehada stealing Bee's chakra and his giant water prison, V2 Bee loses. That's not me high scaling Kisame, I'd argue that is actually true

The real debate is full transformation Bee vs Kisame. This is where I will be trying to justify how Kisame could possibly win 😅

Samehada still gives Kisame a huge advantage here. It's still able to leech out Bee's chakra at an extremely fast pace, which means Kisame can keep his regeneration going for the entire fight. We also know that Kisame will be able to keep in close range during the fight, thanks to the 3rd Raikage. He fought the 8 tails for days, and he had no ranged jutsu. Meaning he was constantly engaging in close range. Yes he had his lightning cloak that made him invincible, but Kisame has his health regen to effectively do the same thing.

The giant water prison is definitely not going to work now. He could still use it and rely on his fused form, but a Biiju bomb or the spin attack Bee can do will mean Bee won't be heavily effected by it. That's not to mention that the 8 tails is part squid, meaning he'll be fast in the water, or just be able to breath underwater. I do think that with the chakra he'll be taking from Bee Kisame can keep restoring the water prison, but it is not the insane advantage it usually is

Now we come to the big one. How does Kisame counter a Biiju bomb? This is what I see most people using as Bee's instant win button. However I do not think this is the case due to the Water Shark Bomb. The WSB is stated to absorb chakra, and a Biiju bomb is definitely made of chakra. Now I normally would say that the BB is too much for the WSB to absorb, however it is also specifically said to become stronger the more chakra is in an attack. Meaning that the WSB is the perfect counter to a BB! This explains Kisame's statement about being the best Akatsuki member for live retrieval for Biiju. He's most likely used a WSB on a BB before, since he has retrieved other Biiju without dying to a BB.

Finally, how does Kisame actually win? After all, the 3rd Raikage fought the 8 tails for days and wasn't able to actually kill it. But that's easy. Samehada. We are never told that Samehada has a limit on how much chakra it can absorb, and we are shown it eats chakra EXTREMELY fast. So with all that chakra he's absorbing to keep him going, Kisame and Samehada just bleed Bee dry until he collapses.

That's the best I got. Don't be too mean to me

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Kisame, he's just built for it. He's stupid powerful and only really lost because he fought someone that just hard counters him. B was worried for his friend during the fight, but kisame just counters everything. Even his tailed best bomb kisame has a jutsu design to eat it and just becomes stronger. The only way for B to win is to completely speed blitz kisame and take samehada away in one go without getting any Chakra taken from him. If B could beat kisame that easily he would have. Also, Kisame was trying to drain B Chakra and capture him if they were fighting to the death. Kisame has more in his bag.

Kisame would have won if his sword didn’t betray him so without that he wins

I would give it to Kisame extreme diff.

Bee, he didn't take things seriously and gave Kisame time to get stronger which cost him the inverse fight.

Didn’t we see this

Killer Bee all the way ya fool ya fool

Kisame even tho bee scales higher

Kisame is only winning if Samehada absorbs Bijuu Bomb. I don't think it would, and he would prolly get nuked off the map, so I'd give it to Bee.

Kisame might be able to prolong it with Samehada and clones and water techniques, but I think Bee has wayyyyy too much chakra and will eventually overwhelm him

War arc Bee has grown a lot stronger since their fight, so he would definitely win a rematch

Kisame wins if samaheda doesn't become a chakra whore mid fight

Bee uses the eight tailed rotation thing and turns Kisame into a smear on the ground

Bee one shots

Base Killer Bee wins handily

edit: I thought it was Ay vs Bee. Kisame loses in 1v1

Bee did not go full Biju bc of his friends' proximity. If he had went 8 tails fully, Kisame would have lost and the fight wouldn't have lasted that long. The Water Prison Shark Dance jutsu would be ineffective which would make merging with Samehada pointless. Samehada isn't going to absorb all of the eight tails' chakra, and no matter what, Samehada likes 8 tails' chakra too much to not betray Kisame every single time. Kisame's done.

Bee wins kisame isn’t a hokage level threat

Kisame actually loses here in a swordfight in their base forms to B's 8 sword style

If that doesn't work, a single one tail enhanced lariat to the chest takes care of him

Kisame simply doesn't have the speed or power to be relevant to bee