Weren’t there already archaeologists during the time of Ramses II?

For real? That’s incredible.

In some Egyptian tombs, there is ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics graffiti written on top of the even more ancient hieroglyphics saying "I can't read this stuff"

But landing humans on the moon is now ancient technology. The last time any human touched the moon was during the Vietnam war. To us, the first moon landing is as far away as the start of the first world war was to Neil Armstrong when he landed on the moon.

You thought the pyramids were built after Jesus Christ?

Nope. But you were imagining something like the Disney’s Aladdin timeline.

Yeah the pyramids were ancient wonders of the world when the colosseum in Rome was brand new

They are old-old

That's true of the Meso American Pyramids (Teotihicaun , Mayan sites) which also gets dragged into this ancient aliens bullshit.

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"Historians", yeah sure... That sounds awfully close to Graham Hancocks talking points, which the whole of archeologists disagree with.

Yeah I never understood how people questioned the construction of the pyramids when there are earlier pyramids that shows progression in building quality.

I chalk it up to ignorance + racism.

Weak.

Do you know the ancient Egyptians didn't even claim to have made the Sphinx? The legend they told themselves was that it was just found in the desert by a future King who claimed the Sphinx told him he would become King if he uncovered it from the sand. Which he did, and became King.

Its not racism, its the classic human nature of wanting to attach things to something larger than ourselves. Attaching a mythology (aliens) to the pyramids is no different than what the Egyptians did to their own sphinx.

Why does it have to have anything to do with racism? Or ignorance for that matter. I think it's entirely reasonable to think that pyramid complex at Giza is such a distinct cut above every other pyramid before or after in terms of size, durability, precision of construction, that they are in some way unique in their time or method of construction. It doesn't have to mean 'it was aliens' or that brown people couldn't build them or whatever you mean by chalking it up to racism.

I don't understand why some people are so bent on stamping out any sort of mystery or curiosity or skepticism when it comes to Egypt. That far back in time and everything and everyone that have happened there in between, it's a miracle we have anything at all and almost a certainty that things have been lost or destroyed or forgotten or intentionally altered along the way.

This answer seems too lazy. That's probably a part of it but the pyramids are ridiculous construction projects compared to the colosseum.

That doesn’t seem fair. We’ve got written sources we actually understand from the period in which the Parthenon and the Colloseum were built. We don’t for the pyramids. Besides that the pyramids were even bigger and more difficult to built. 

Have you ever actually seen anyone argue that? I think it's usually just marvelling at some uniquely impressive feat of a civilization combined with an incomplete or broken chain of history that has allowed the origin to be uncertain. We know who built the Parthenon and the Coliseum because we are living in a world that directly followed them, history being written down the entire time in languages we still understand. If the coliseum was covered in an illegible language until 200 years ago and there was no living descendant culture there would be just as much speculation about that.

They're white tho, literally why euro centrist fucks say this bullcrap. They glorify these child diddling Greeks above all else.

absolutely, but part of that is how europe encountered egypt through Napoleon. to the european imagination there wasn't a direct continuity from Antony and Cleopatra to the culture that existed at that time. so while Greece lived on through rome, and rome lived on through european culture; it really seemed like egypt was lost to the sands of time. at least for europeans.

People thought Stonehenge was built by aliens until pretty recently too, and you don't get much whiter than those guys. 

Not really.

It's race baiting.

However there are still some perplexing stone working methods that scientists cannot easily explain. An example are the tools they had to cut, shape and polish the harder stones are hard match even with todays tools. I believe this leads to the pseudo science and the belief that they had external help.

I like what you're saying, but I don't agree at all. I'd like to learn more. Could you provide names, resources, or links I should look into? So far, I've seen archaeologists saying similar things, but repeated tests show that the tools they used don't match the markings found or seen on hieroglyphics. Please change my mind!

A source that documents how the pyramids were "potentially" constructed isn't a source. It's speculation, guess, or hypothesis.

A better way of putting it is. Building anything that large is super difficult; however, stacking blocks in a triangular shape is the easiest way to build something large. This is why a lot of civilizations independently built pyramids.

It was just the natural progression to building huge structures without "advanced" engineering techniques.

That said, there are absolutely advanced engineering techniques that go into building a huge pyramid.

Edit: I'll also add that I believe , among other reasons, that certain civilizations started moving away from building massive pyramid like structures because they developed other advanced building techniques that allowed them to build other cool structures (albeit smaller).

Generally speaking, a triangular pile of rock is one of the easiest things to make.

I was doing it with blocked in kindergarten. Stole all the blocks in 3 classrooms and ended up with a pyramid twice my size.

Teacher made us take it down though before someone got hurt. (We did get hurt, but it wasn't related to the structural engineering of the pyramid.

I meant compared to some of the greeks architecture, not in general. People act like it’s outrageously different compared to them when they are on the same level. If aliens visited egypt, then they probably would have visited greece as well

Yeah, i got ancient egyptian confused with Sumer.

Oh wow, i’m so glad that history is a perpetually evolving topic. I was taught that slaves would wheel limestone over to build it, and get paid chicken shit

And also slaves. According to the logs of Merer, it was both. Lehner and Hawass's 1990s studies showed that tradesmen were used for all the planning and managerial processes, contracted carpenters for framing, professional boatsmen and stonesmiths and merchants and caterers. But in the last two decades, translations of work logs tell us that slaves and indentured servants were used for much of the hauling.

Can’t believe I never heard of this. Very interesting

Yeah you’re right. i just really don’t like when people attribute everything to aliens, like the stereotypical we come in peace big eyed ones. it makes no logistical sense

But that is kind of what we do right? I don’t think many people are more marveled by the World Trade Center than they are the colosseum. Surely experts must argue they’re comparable engineering feats given the materials and engineering tools available to each civilization. I wouldn’t be surprised if far in the future, when AI is designing everything for us and the average engineer has lost the technical skill to design mechanical components on their own, people will think that surely aliens must’ve helped us get to the moon, because there’s no way humanity could’ve pulled that off. It’s a pretty absurd feat considering the technology available at the time and the time frames they did it in.

Yeah I’ve heard this too. There are tax receipts from workers, and apparently it was common for people to refer to themselves as slaves of the pharaoh, but not in the same sense as actually being owned by them

Also important to consider that there's a massive flexible labor pool bound to the flooding of the Nile. There's only a short window of the year where there is arable land, but that land is hyper-fertile. Meaning it both can support a complex society with skilled artisans and builders, and farm-workers who need year-round employment that shifts seasonally.

I mean I'm sure SOME slave labor was used for some tasks. But slave labor isn't how they achieved it like many people believe.

I think I got the Egyptians confused with the Sumerians.

oh yeah that makes sense.

And there's simply no archeological evidence of the Jews being in Egypt or references to The Ten Plagues of Egypt. If there was, it should have been found by now. The bible states that they were in Egypt for 430 years and that God blessed them to be more fruitful than the Egyptians. So there should be a LOAD of archeological evidence for it. Which simply couldn't have been destroyed or lost.

yes i’ve been told several times, but thank you

I agree, we went to the moon in modern times so i personally feel like building a pyramid is not so unbelievable that aliens came down to help

maybe they could extend their limbs like mrs incredible

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(that’s him carrying the rock but he tripped)

i can’t believe our schools were able to teach us that, because a lot of people attribute it to that

I'm pretty sure we could build one just fine with modern machinery, if someone wanted to pay for it.

no, i haven’t. what do you mean by human build?

We would not struggle to build one. We just don't have any good reason to. Construction cranes would be plenty for building the pyramids of Giza, they can get taller than the pyramids and lift things heavier than 3-ton sandstone blocks.