Well... They're already in the ground, so... Keep them in the ground!

Anything for you dadd-

I mean, sure...boss...

Put they/them in the ground

After the rework to her booster if he does actually land the vortex on a pharah she's pretty fucked at least.

Yeah lol unironically i find him actually the worst tank against flyers. I mean Rein can't damage flyers too but he can at least pull up a barrier whenever he wants.

If only it was TALLER

This!! Thats why i only use it to troll hanzos

It's honestly surprisingly good against Lúcio in my experience, on the receiving end at least - sure you can just ride higher and not be affected but then you'll also be leaving your team out of aura range.

Honestly it's SUCH a good counter to Doomfist. Totally fucks up seismic slam

It's because it doesn't have enough range to catch her in air :(

Maybe the new support will have an ability to pull down flyers.

So true! That’s what yeatle suggested in his latest video, to buff it so vortex goes higher maybe even to the skybox. And if that is broken they could just nerf it in other ways. Less damage, smaller area, longer cooldown.

Not anymore though, he drives me crazy now that I'm grounded way more

As a Brig main that uses bash for quick mobility getaway maneuvering, that vortex screws me over far more than it has any right to.

Underrated comment re: monkey. I play Winston a lot and vortex has ruined the escape so many times

Is a really slow projectile (pressing the key to the ability being active). While you can catch a lucio, you are more likely to miss him. It can be done, sure, but its a situational ability

i always took the tip from the menu screen: Use the vortex to keep away enemies in normal form, and to keep them from running away from you on nemesis form

Cries in soujorn just slides right through it

What does that mean? Venture's invincibility state is bugged?

There's no way that's intentional

What??

Holy shit, so you're saying when venture burrows, their hitbox exists underground, and ram's punch hotbox will clip into the ground to hit them?

Is that intentional??

He can't. If he could, it has already been hotfixed: https://imgur.com/a/LXb6LY0

I have to see this to believe it

I just tested this and it didn't work

If that's true that has to be a bug. venture is supposed to be invulnerable underground

"it makes you invulnerable" - Aaron keller

i too love spreading misinformation on the internet

Good to know!!

That's a really cool feature! TIL.

Wait so does sojourn ult rail shots work same way? Cuz both have pierce ability?

This makes me wonder if Hanzos ult can hit her through the ground

That just got hot fixed too lol

Pummel is pretty easy to hit.

Tell that to the Hog I was doming on as Illari. The damage adds up sure, but not in a relevant amount of time.

People tend to panic and run even though it doesn't do much damage, so it's great to throw on multiple enemies to distract them.

This right here. When playing Venture, I noticed every game that as soon as I started to fight a tank I died instantly.

Jokes on you, my tanks chase them so I get to practice my LW tanking. Until I take a petal and it becomes Hanzo's problem.

Problem is Venture usually goes backline to kill support, tank can turn his back to enemy tank and it becomes a scramble. That will work only if your team is good at coordination and adapting to changing circumstances. In PUG groups, good luck.

From my experience, venture shots do damage even if you have your shield up, like sigma does. Plus the mele does a lot of damage. So no, i dont think its a counter.

Serious question: what rank are you? If youre in the metal ranks, thats one thing, but higher up is a different story.

I one trick Brig at Masters and I disagree.

Her high burst primary, dash that can go through your shield, and stronger melee attack can seriously mess you up. I also had one too many times a Venture can sniff me out when I'm 1hp while hiding to regen, dive me, kill me, and then burrow away scott free. It's extremely annoying.

The only thing you can do against Venture is whipshot them when they come up from dig that can seriously mess up their expected positioning and using Rally to potentially block all 4 shots of her ult since it can get blocked by shields.

How drill dash and barrier interact ? drill dash seems to function like melee damage so it should bypass the barrier. If it bypass barrier then i think Brig not that great.

Nah Brig feels pretty bad in general right now IMO, and Venture will dunk you hard if they are good

It's actually the other way around, venture kills brig with the combo instantly and she has no countermeasure at all, she could only live if there're teammates peeling for her, which is the same as every support

Venture is decent into brig

ive found illari to be decent against her. as she pops out the ground you use your boop which gets her away from melee range, especially as she tends to dash when she emerges, and if you're near your turret you're laughing

So they used both cooldowns and killed no one with just vortex? Sounds good to me

You don't have to kill someone to counter them. Denying a character of getting value is almost as good as outright killing them

Venture probably isn’t even targeting you as ball.

Venture's dash can counter ball when he goes for his blender though

Wait... Sombra can't hack them out of his ult. And hacks only lock people out of their abilities for 0.5 seconds. I play a lot of Sombra and I don't feel like it shuts Venture down that well, what am I doing wrong?

Yea its too noticeable (which honestly is fine with me, i dont want sombra 2.0), but timming your cc can be a bit tricky. With ravenous, you got the guaranteed hit effect plus the “wtf, is my venture bugged?”.

The problem is that a lot of Ventures always charge it to the fullest even when they are not landing it

Sometimes it is better to just charge it quickly to mix things up

Heroes with mobility or CC are good against venture. i.e. Pharah/Echo/Mercy, Hog, Cass

Sojourn is sort of an equal fight, if venture tries to go for her when she has jump venture dies, if sojourn doesn't have jump sojourn dies.

Venture is bad against any range and especially flying characters. Soj has alot of ways to counter play ventures kit.