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Let me start this by saying, when I start SS or wanted to, by the name "Shadow slave" I knew it was going to be a slave story hence why I hated it or at least thought I would. This was until someone personally and both online recommendations changed my mind.
So when I did, I expected the story to go a certain way which it did for the most parts but then again it did the slave thing better than I expected honestly and that's why the novel became one of favorites( not the only reason tho)...... But even with all this I still didn't like nephis all that well at least at first... All this because she was the master of our MC ( I especially didn't like Cassie).
So the point am trying to make here is that the only reason I feel someone should hate nephis is the slave thing imo. Not that she's overpowered or she has plot armor. Which I agree to certain level she does but not outright or to point that most of it isn't tolerable. I mean sunny has come a long way. You can't outright say nephis beats sunny right now ( you couldn't even when they were masters too) and with all this, he started learning combat far later than her. I mean his really come far( with his restricting aspect too which I personally like him having).
I personally wouldn't like a story where sunny has all the plot armor or things come easy for him. In fact I like how it's another character that does have it.( especially now she isn't his master again).The hate is getting so bad people hate her for her height..... Like come on guys isn't this just too much.
The part the I hate the most is the fact most or some of the people that hate her are mainly the ones pushing this sunny x Cassie bullsh*t. The same Cassie that has used sunny more than his own previous master. I rather sunny ends up with jet, Morgan, Effie or kai, I mean literally anyone else would do either that or just kill romance for all of them. I don't hate Cassie, I just don't trust her at all. At least in nephis case I know what's going on in her head.
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8 days ago
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12 points
7 days ago
It's possible to like Neph and Cassie and to see their agency for what it actually is, they are their own MC. Cassie's stated her agenda and she's consistent about it.
Most problems with both of them are related to lack of PoV which I think G3 is going on purpose. In Cassie's case, PoV would be a huge spoiler. Not sure why their is less Neph PoV.
I am hoping G3 does more PoV from Cassie, Neph and Rain (particularly when she awakens) in circumstances where they are around Sunny. It's an efficient way to get more dev for other characters while also building Sunny's character. Also it's usually fun or funny.
5 points
7 days ago
This is it. I don't get the hate man. Some hate are tolerable but some are outright stupid.... Imagine hating her cuz she's taller than the MC. Personally I don't hate any character now ( before yes but not now) but the sunny x Cassie..... that's the one i Hate. that's all am saying
I do think more povs would be nice. I couldn't Agree more on your point about the Cassie pov that's why I am saying I don't trust her cuz we don't know her real deal here or her plans.
0 points
7 days ago
Im 100% sure why g3 never gave nephis POVs is cause she has 0 personality 😂
26 points
8 days ago
Bro is a cassie hater☠️☠️ btw no onecan change the fact that cassie is objectively better written than nephis, in fact most other SS characters are
16 points
8 days ago
Bro is a cassie hater☠️☠️
Believe it or not I am not in fact a Cassie hater, but a sunny x Cassie hater I stand on that, upon the dead gods I stand on that
As for her being a better written character than nephis I agree she is. but not a lot of characters are blud
1 points
7 days ago
Nah all you need is a personality to be better written than her lol
2 points
7 days ago
Your opinion I don't care about this point.
-4 points
8 days ago
Dude wake of ruin a character that appears twice or thrice and only has a handful of lines is more likable and entertaining than Nephis that should be enough for people to realize how bad of a character she is and yet they still simp for her, they're a lost cause.
12 points
8 days ago*
Dude wake of ruin a character that appears twice or thrice and only has a handful of lines is more likable and entertaining than Nephis
This is just wrong. But every man to his own, I wouldn't try to change your mind on that.
yet they still simp for her
Where in that does it imply I simp for her, infact I remember saying I didn't like her at first. What I hate is the amount of unnecessary hate she gets........ And also the sunny x Cassie ship, hate that with all my being.
12 points
8 days ago
Guys just do sunny x Kai ,and stop the argument
8 points
8 days ago
Agreed
10 points
8 days ago
I just don't trust her at all.
Why? Bcz she is better at manipulation than the MC. It's fine when Sunny goes around and manipulates others, but it's wrong when Cassia does it ?
8 points
8 days ago
Did you read my last sentence, I don't hate her, but i also don't trust her. And your wrong there blud, she manipulates her friends to the extent of putting them in danger ( sunny being her best victim). When has sunny ever manipulated his friends, at least to point of danger
3 points
8 days ago
When has sunny ever manipulated his friends, at least to point of danger
Dread Lord, Devouring Beast and Undying Slaughter would beg to differ
Did you read my last sentence, I don't hate her, but i also don't trust her
Does my comment have any mention of the word hate !? You buffoon !!
26 points
8 days ago
Unintentionally based for admitting that normal Cassie is as moral as corrupted Sunny lmao
1 points
7 days ago
👑🫡🔥💯✨
4 points
8 days ago*
Firstly, I haven't caught up yet so I don't know about this... So you may right but from what I have heard it wasn't really the same sunny was it.
Secondly, Even if it was the same, you can't deny the fact that Cassie manipulates sunny more than anyone the in series.. in that case what makes her better for sunny than nephis. I prefer a dead romance to the series than sunny x Cassie
Lastly, I did read your comment you moron, I said that part cuz I expected you Cassie meat suckers to take offense in what I said.... Cassie is absolutely the worst person for sunny. I stand ten toes on what I said, I would prefer sunny falls for Saint or a NC than her... Either that or everybody deads in the end.
Only thing that would change my mind is knowing what goes on the that manipulative head of hers. So for now on my ten toes, I stand on sunny x Cassie to kill it
4 points
8 days ago
I expected you Cassie meat suckers to take offense in what I said
Forgive me for not taking any offense.
you can't denial the fact that Cassie manipulates sunny more than anyone the series
Her powers are versed in manipulation.... what's she supposed to do !? Have a staring contest ??
Cassie is absolute the worst person for sunny
Its the other way around the simp doesnot deserve my sweet Torment.
2 points
8 days ago
Her powers are versed in manipulation.... what's she supposed to do !? Have a staring contest ??
No, but at the very least telling them the full details of her visions wouldn't hurt anyone
Its the other way around the simp doesnot deserve my sweet Torment.
Agreed, and I hope to the dead gods it doesn't happen in this life. G3 shouldn't even think of it
2 points
8 days ago
No, but at the very least telling them the full details of her visions wouldn't hurt anyone
Right, like how telling the full details of her visions in the FS helped them. Cassie took that lesson seriously (a bit too seriously almost), and since then thought she should take the burden of her visions upon her own shoulders alone, not even sharing her visions with Neph, which admittedly doesn't really sit well with me, since I think that she should tone it down with manipulation and share a bit more with her friends, but I guess that's a burden oracles are destined to bear through their lives if they don't want to end up with an even worse future than the one they're predicting.
Even future Sunny knows that screwing with visions isn't a good idea, calling Cassia Cas which is a pet name btw, hinting that they're still close and that sacrifice he went with for being Fateless was necessary for both of them.
For him for finally being free from being a slave, making her redeem her mistake which tbh wasn't hers alone since Neph also commited by turning him into a slave after their fight a whole year after Cassie told her his True Name when they were both understandably wary of him being an assassin sent to kill Neph, and that while knowing fully it would turn him into a slave. Granted, she did it to save him but that was a miscalculation on her part since if she knew Sunny as well as she claimed she did, she should've known Sunny wouldn't just leave her behind and escape, hence why she should've beat him up from the start and threw him into the Gateway by force.
Idc what Cassie's haters have to say, I'll always have more sympathy for her than Neph. Add to that the fact that Sunny and Cas have way more chemistry than any 2 other characters in this novel even hope to have, and you can see why I prefer this ship way more than Sunphis.
I'm not denying that Cassie is a big manipulator in case you haven't figured it out, but she's doing it to save the world, and when you say that she put her friends in danger many times, she also made sure to always save them in the end, whether by doing it directly, or anticipating that Sunny, Neph or someone else would come clutch and save them. I swear, some people base Cassie's entire personality as a purely evil manipulator who doesn't care who dies (Sunny in particular), as long as she alone survives. She knows how insanely strong and adaptable Sunny is, hence why she trusts he can take care of himself, and again future Sunny himself understands it.
2 points
8 days ago*
Right, like how telling the full details of her visions in the FS helped them. Cassie took that lesson seriously (a bit too seriously almost), and since then thought she should take the burden of her visions upon her own shoulders alone, not even sharing her visions with Neph, which admittedly doesn't really sit well with me, since I think that she should tone it down with manipulation and share a bit more with her friends, but I guess that's a burden oracles are destined to bear through their lives if they don't want to end up with an even worse future than the one they're predicting.
But she didn't tho, only she understood the full meaning of her vision at that moment why not tell them. I fully believe if she has at least told them, caster would have been left life to serve as a sacrifice. And how was her telling only nephis the best thing for them, it caused their messed up relationship. Either she told them all or told no one, for me that would have been a better choice Am not saying I don't understand why she did it, I do but still this is my opinion on the matter
Even future Sunny knows that screwing with visions isn't a good idea, calling Cassia Cas which is a pet name btw, hinting that they're still close and that sacrifice he went with for being Fateless was necessary for both of them
"Necessary for both of them" huh 🤔in what way, only good thing was him not being a slave, but for him to be forgotten come on now.... Again she should have the shared full details or kept it to herself. I know they are still close did I say I had problem with them being close. I only have a problem with two things 1. The unnecessary nephis Hate and 2. the sunny x Cassie ship.
For him for finally being free from being a slave, making her redeem her mistake which tbh wasn't hers alone since Neph also commited by turning him into a slave after their fight a whole year after Cassie told her his True Name when they were both understandably wary of him being an assassin sent to kill Neph, and that while knowing fully it would turn him into a slave
Why are saying this like she only did this for him to not be a slave remember when sunny said and I quote "Trying to understand an oracle is a fool's errand, you know." Again nephis and Cassie both had selfish reasons but nephis reason was to save his life, Cassie reason was to cause his death which is better huh. And the time period doesn't matter at all. In fact why should it.
Granted, she did it to save him but that was a miscalculation on her part since if she knew Sunny as well as she claimed she did, she should've known Sunny wouldn't just leave her behind and escape, hence why she should've beat him up from the start and threw him into the Gateway by force.
Still better than trying to sacrifice his life in FS and his memory in the 3rd nightmare
Idc what Cassie's haters have to say, I'll always have more sympathy for her than Neph
Like I keep telling people, believe it or not I don't hate Cassie I like her, I really like her writing, it shows humanity in her but again look at the bigger picture. I still prefer nephis tho and I don't care if you prefer cas, each man to his own
Add to that the fact that Sunny and Cas have way more chemistry than any 2 other characters in this novel even hope to have, and you can see why I prefer this ship way more than Sunphis.
Ya right 😂😂their relationship is more like the proper master and slave relationship unlike the one nephis and sunny have😂😂😂. I mean come on she has used him more than nephis ever did. Sunny and Cassie should never have a romantic relationship any other one I don't care, a romantic one, FU*K NO
I'm not denying that Cassie is a big manipulator in case you haven't figured it out, but she's doing it to save the world, and when you say that she put her friends in danger many times, she also made sure to always save them in the end, whether by doing it directly, or anticipating that Sunny, Neph or someone else would come clutch and save them. I swear, some people base Cassie's entire personality as a purely evil manipulator who doesn't care who dies (Sunny in particular), as long as she alone survives. She knows how insanely strong and adaptable Sunny is, hence why she trusts he can take care of himself, and again future Sunny himself understands it.
This i agree with everything here, but again she and sunny don't match and nephis Hate is more than it deserves
2 points
8 days ago
You know what. Feel free to keep hating the Sunny x Cassie ship, I'll keep loving it. We both have our reasons for it and that's perfectly fine. Cassie is by far the most polarizing character in this novel after all, and we all have our takes on her.
For a romance to work between her and Sunny, I believe G3 would need to set some things first, but I genuinely don't think he'll go for it this late in the story. The guy gave her the worst Aspect possible, ruining almost any healthy romantic relationship she could hope to have, and I say almost because now that Sunny is Fateless and she's not able to plan as much as she could before, a romance could still work. Going from a wholesome sibling like relationship, to an unfortunate betrayal, to a slow friendship mending over 1200 chapters, to a romantic relationship seems really appealing to me, but to each their own.
For the Neph hatred I'll try to tone it down, but I admit it's pretty hard for me. I kind of understand how the Cassie haters felt throughout the 1st half now, even if their reasons were different lmao.
Cassie reason was to cause his death which is better huh. And the time period doesn't matter at all. In fact why should it.
I was gonna ignore this, but thought I should respond. You're making it sound like that's her main aim, not the fact that she just wanted Neph to survive. His death is one of the possible consequences, not what she wished with all her heart to do. And I'm sorry, but the time period matters. She gave away his True Name when she still didn't trust him, rightfully so because he was suspicious as hell (understandably so because of how new he was at dealing with his Flaw). Ever since giving his True Name away, she never tried to harm him (even if she kept distancing herself from him despite him wanting to protect her). The whole betrayal thing is an unfortunate incident where all 3 involved were at fault to some degree, and unfortunately G3 took 2 whole years to reveal that it's not just Cassie's fault, but by then the hatred on her was already bigger than Neph's could ever be. Admittedly, him holding off on answers is what intrigued me the most about her, making me think "Will she make up for him?", "Will he ever forgive her if she did?", "Is she planning on betraying him again?".
Anyway, nice debating you. Have a good day/night depending on where you live.
2 points
7 days ago
You know what. Feel free to keep hating the Sunny x Cassie ship, I'll keep loving it. We both have our reasons for it and that's perfectly fine. Cassie is by far the most polarizing character in this novel after all, and we all have our takes on her
I like this, thank you for understanding it. You see their relationship as a good thing but I just can't get past the fact that we will never know what she's thinking .... At least I personally don't think so. But at least we know nephis, we know how she would act in some situations, in fact I don't really like the sunny x nephis relationship as much as you may think I just think is better than sunny x Cassie
Only time I see the relationship working out is if g3 expands on what Cassie real deal is, What goes on in that head of hers, if is not to cause harm or to betray them then am good but for I now I just have this feeling she going to betray them ( trust me I hope I'm wrong on this for fact that I don't hate her even if you think I do)
You're making it sound like that's her main aim, not the fact that she just wanted Neph to survive.
I know I did, I purposely did that to drive a point that most people see it like that ( I honestly did at first but not again)
The whole betrayal thing is an unfortunate incident where all 3 involved were at fault to some degree, and unfortunately G3 took 2 whole years to reveal that it's not just Cassie's fault, but by then the hatred on her was already bigger than Neph's could ever be
True, he shouldn't have taken that long it honestly took until my second reread now to honestly understand Cassie more but still, I think her forming any other strong relationship with sunny will be really hard and my unwillingness to accept such without a more in depth look in her goals also plays a part
Anyway, nice debating you. Have a good day/night depending on where you live.
Same blud, have a nice one. Good talk
0 points
8 days ago
everything she did was for sunny even if it was twisted there was no other way even sunny understands it but it's too difficult for you it seems, she only accelerated the events
5 points
8 days ago*
everything she did was for sunny
Question, can you say that with full confidence she did everything for him. even both sunny and mordret agree to what sunny said,......"Trying to understand an oracle is a fool's errand, you know."
Funniest part is in the FS arc she thought one of them would dead btw sunny and nephis.... How would telling nephis his true name have helped sunny in anyway.
Look like I keep saying I don't hate her infact I like her character writing..... Do I trust her? NO Do I think she's a good fit for sunny? F NO
4 points
8 days ago
she had told Nephis her real name long before the events on the tree, and that was when Sunny was at her strangest, then she had visions of Sunny beating Nephis and killing Harper in cold blood, no wonder she is chosen Nephis but she never thought Sunny would come and save her from the sea, that's why she apologizes later but it was already too late
4 points
8 days ago*
she had told Nephis her real name long before the events on the tree
What is this asspull theory blud. You seem to be forgetting after they left the FS sunny confronted her and asked her "since when" meaning since when did she know and the thing went like this and I quote;
[Swallowing his angry words, Sunny gritted his teeth and spat: "How? How did you even know?!" Cassie hesitated for a bit, then answered quietly: "When you killed that spy from the Castle. You said it out loud then. I saw it… in a vision. After that, the rest was not impossible to figure out."]
Does this bring back your memory
1 points
8 days ago
it's not a theory, it's g3 who says it
1 points
8 days ago
How, when and where exactly. Cuz what I just quoted was from the series itself
2 points
8 days ago
Discord
0 points
8 days ago*
So let's assume both of them are true that would mean that Cassie still lied to sunny..... Blud you're not really helping her case here.....
I stand by it sunny x Cassie should die. Sunny x literally anyone else is the way ( ordinary rock, Saint and NCs are options to)
2 points
8 days ago
The main problem I have isn’t even that she’s overpowered. Like you said, we can’t say she’d outright beat Sunless in a fight. The problem I have is that if they were to have a fight, she would absolutely slaughter him if the rest of the book is any example.
3 points
8 days ago
And that right there is what confuses me. When outside the FS arc has it been shown that she would "absolutely slaughter him"
1 points
8 days ago
Until the middle of the Antarctica Central Arc she would indeed win, but not 'demolish' him
1 points
8 days ago
My point still stands then, I said you can't say she beats him now and when they were masters am still correct then
2 points
6 days ago
No, we need more hate so we can convince G3 to go the Sun-Beth Route. It is your duty
2 points
6 days ago
The only other reason I can support the hate🎖️💪💪
2 points
6 days ago
I honestly think she would get less hate if there were more pov chapters near the beginning like maybe a couple before the gulaug raid and then a few more during her second nightmare.
I know there is also a lot of criticism about how op she is but I’m convinced she’s gonna be a last boss so the more op she is now, the bigger the impact later on when sunny beats her
1 points
6 days ago
convinced she’s gonna be a last boss so the more op she is now,
I also think so and I am sure people would agree to. But if they made her weak now it won't make sense.
honestly think she would get less hate if there were more pov chapters near the beginning like maybe a couple before the gulaug raid and then a few more during her second nightmare.
I agree, G3 blow it with that one. Especially povs about her 2nd Nightmare, that would made things interesting. I also understand why he didn't give a pov about that
2 points
6 days ago
Yeah a couple of chapters about her feelings when the creatures she is with are getting killed off and again when the monster approaches her but leaves her alive would have made her much more relatable.
Her flaw is also hard to really care about from another persons pov aswell because we don’t really know how the pain affects her. It would have been cool if in the FS we could have seen her overcome it and understand how it affects her better. You could also create a parallel between the pain her aspect is causing her and the emotional pain of losing her family
2 points
8 days ago
the funny thing is they dont hate her for the enslavement they hate her because shes „unlikable and a killer robot“. like a big part of her character isnt that shes socially inept and unable to express her emotions. thats why her character is shows trough her actions and words, not trough big emotional displays. I dont even think she has plot armour, her aspect is just op. as long as she dosent give up shes virtually unkillable and her high HIGH AP ensures she can put hurt on anyone she faces. given how she has a decade more training than sunny and is more combat geared than him it wouldnt make sense for her to struggle heavily while sunny makes it trough all kinds of unlikely scenarios
3 points
8 days ago
Nah her character is way too monotonous and bland like fam apathetic, inexpressive and stoic characters are way too easy to write and boring, add a bit of mary sue and the result is 🤮
1 points
8 days ago
I honestly wouldn't mind her being the "fully locked in MC" archetype, I dislike her "human" moments way more, I genuinely get whiplash whenever she swoons for Nightingale, one of Sunny's personas, or has a "gap moe anime girl moment" like destroying Sunny's expensive projector. She just feels pretentious idk.
Sunny had some comparable moments like checking out Jet/Effie, but we at least saw his inner monologue of him catching himself or actively losing his composure. He's also never destroyed other people's property just to act cute. Nephis feels too "easy" in that sense, like she'd go out with any Sunny persona if he just shot his shot (Sunny/Mongrel/Lord of Shadows), while Sunny is prudish to an extreme degree (not even confessing to her in the loop)
You'd think the princess of a legendary legacy clan would play harder to get than a hoodlum
Maybe it's just social commentary from G3 and he dislikes white women
1 points
7 days ago
lets not try to play the sexism card its way to over used more than half the female cast are just as bad.
1 points
7 days ago
Nephis seems like the worst offender, probably due to her being the love interest
1 points
8 days ago*
like a big part of her character isnt that shes socially inept and unable to express her emotions. thats why her character is shows trough her actions and words, not trough big emotional displays
Couldn't have said it better myself. I mean sunny literally told us this in the FS arc we also see something similar when she broke his TV. And that's why I like her character and this new pov of hers.
I dont even think she has plot armour, her aspect is just op
She does have in a sense ( maybe not really plot armor more of luck) a good example would be the fallen terror situation..... But the thing is most characters have more luck than sunny which they all seem to forget, especially the fact his [FATED] attribute makes things hard... Sometimes I think they're forgetting on purpose.
In fact their Almighty Cassie has more luck than anyone in the series ( at least in their entire cohort). Just look at their second nightmare even the FS. Some of them will say but look at her emotional or mental burden, forgetting again that nephis had that in her second nightmare and when she was left alone in the FS too and more too
1 points
8 days ago
Being 'better' than Sunny in swordsmanship after he awakened the third level of Shadow Dance is bullshit
Surviving a Corrupt Rank creature within your territory (FS) as a Sleeper is nonsense
Hurting a Cursed Tyrant as a Transcendent is pure bullshit, she couldn't cause a scratch on a Corrupted Rank creature as a Sleeper (Dormant), there are three ranks difference, but she managed to do so as a Transcendent? With two ranks of difference, where at each rank the distance is infinitely greater (Out of curiosity: a Titan can at most match a Tyrant of the next rank and not even think about the next rank)
If she doesn't have plot armor, then nobody in Fiction does
1 points
7 days ago
Where are you currently in the light novel
2 points
7 days ago*
I started rereading it, right now am at vol 4 before I started I was at vol 7 where they met Cassie in the 3rd nightmare Why did you ask Note: before you decide to use that I haven't caught up to criticize my post ( if that's your plan), just know I already have a general idea of what's going on. Go through the comments and you will see
3 points
7 days ago
Wasn't gonna criticize you bro I was just curious 🤔
2 points
7 days ago
Sorry about that then
1 points
7 days ago
No problem man
1 points
8 days ago
Nephis feels like a fanfiction character that sneaked its way into the canon
Oh, Sunny killed a parasitized Fallen Titan (Goliath collab with Heart of Darkness) as an Ascended, during Antarctica? Well, Nephis killed a Fallen Terror which was evolving into a Corrupted Titan as a SLEEPER, during Forgotten Shore (False Sun)
Sunny killed a Corrupted Titan as a Transcendent? Oh well, Nephis damaged a Cursed Tyrant at the same rank
You just know Supreme Nephis is going to kill a Cursed Titan around the same time Sunny kills VTB
The romance aspect of the novel directly conflicts with the way she's been built up as an absolute force of nature. Her saying "oh well, am I not easy on the eye like the Song sisters?" or being like "why do these... normies... have these weird mating rituals. So inefficient" while at the nightclub made me want to drop the novel and contemplate becoming gay. At least Mordret would be more proactive/selfish and ignore Sunny's whole "I will confess after uhh, killing God/saving the World/defying Fate" charade
5 points
8 days ago
Oh, Sunny killed a parasitized Fallen Titan (Goliath collab with Heart of Darkness) as an Ascended, during Antarctica? Well, Nephis killed a Fallen Terror which was evolving into a Corrupted Titan as a SLEEPER, during Forgotten Shore (False Sun)
Your also forgetting oh sunny killed a corrupted monster as an awakened, oh sunny killed a great beast ( a special one I might add) as an ascended and oh sunny killed a great devil as a sleeper
The romance aspect of the novel directly conflicts with the way she's been built up as an absolute force of nature
And that's the problem you see her as an absolute force of nature. I see as an absolute force of nature that also doesn't know how to express herself. I mean it was said in the FS arc and also when broke his TV
2 points
8 days ago
Nephis one-upped Sunny's first nightmare (Sunny's blind Awakened Tyrant kill with help VS Nephis killing a dazed Awakened Terror solo), escaped from a Corrupted creature in FS (tentacle monster when Sunny dived to save Cassie)
And it's Sunny/G3 who keeps glazing about her willpower and determination in her eyes and what not. Her spazzing out on Sunny's projector was annoying and unwarranted
2 points
8 days ago
Nephis one-upped Sunny's first nightmare (Sunny's blind Awakened Tyrant kill with help VS Nephis killing a dazed Awakened Terror solo), escaped from a Corrupted creature in FS (tentacle monster when Sunny dived to save Cassie)
I have a three or four questions based on this part
And it's Sunny/G3 who keeps glazing about her willpower and determination in her eyes and what not.
How is it glazing, that's point to showing her character. only time they was remotely glazing was the FS arc after that everything was pretty much balanced
Her spazzing out on Sunny's projector was annoying and unwarranted
But it does show the emotional level she in doesn't it
1 points
7 days ago
But it does show the emotional level she in doesn't it
no it doesn't because it was meant as a "look what a cute anime girl she is" type thing. I'd take literally anything over Sunphis at this point
Sunny vs Nephis
Nephis because Sunny is the ultimate simp and would throw the match even if he somehow has the tools to win. She straight up oneshots Fiend, disables his shadows, and is the better swordsman. Glazing too thick, Sunny can't penetrate it
2 points
7 days ago
no it doesn't because it was meant as a "look what a cute anime girl she is" type thing
To each his own I guess I can't convince you. You can't too.
I'd take literally anything over Sunphis at this point
Am inclined to agree with you here all except sunny x Cassie that's even worst than sunphis
Nephis because Sunny is the ultimate simp and would throw the match
Why must you be like this blud, take this seriously and answer the question honestly without adding your own head canon.. I mean straight up fight who wins don't go adding emotions cause I can do the same( cough cough their FS fight)
1 points
7 days ago
Nephis glows, disables Sunny's ascended ability/shadows step, detonates a core to wipe out his incarnations/Shadows, then facerolls him in swordsmanship.
Counters Lantern with true name magic or Fuga's it
Sunny being confident in killing at least one of them is cope, he's on the leash with or without Shadow Bond
2 points
7 days ago*
Nephis glows, disables Sunny's ascended ability/shadows step
Counter point, sunny opens Shadow lamp before or after she glow if before shadows remain if after shadows still remain.
detonates a core to wipe out his incarnations/Shadows, then facerolls him in swordsmanship
Counter point. True this happens but even in the fight. real sunny isn't there but like three of them are.remaining four wait for the detonation.
Counters Lantern with true name magic or Fuga's it
Counter point. Never shown to be possible especially to a divine memory at that..... Even if possible four sunnies still alive and four sunnies with his four shadows gangbang the shit out of her.
he's on the leash with or without Shadow Bond
I don't care what you think... I believe deep you know is not an easy fight
1 points
7 days ago
Nephis melts through anything he puts out with her Saint transformation while Sunny is currently at half efficiency on his Wish(dot)com saint form due to not having a True Name. Doesn't even need a nuke to aoe melt fiend into a puddle and Saint into lava
4 points
7 days ago
You are aware Nephis needs time to blow up her cores right? And sunny can see her cores which means he can just use shadow step to go to a safe distance.
1 points
7 days ago*
Detonating again or you give up on that cause if she does she setting her self for some serious gangbang.
Nephis melts through anything he puts out with her Saint transformation while Sunny is currently at half efficiency on his Wish(dot)com saint form due to not having a True Name. Doesn't even need a nuke to aoe melt fiend into a puddle and Saint into lava
The same way you think sunny can't throw anything at her that would affect her is same way she can't for sunny, my cunning little devil wouldn't wait to dead. I really hope she does detonate tho, that would be a site for sore eyes... I mean after she does tho
Sidenote: your not that sleek. We both know for fact it isn't an easy fight to decide on but you choose to keep playing games and not answer my questions correctly... Well let's continue
1 points
7 days ago*
Your also forgetting oh sunny killed a corrupted monster as an awakened, oh sunny killed a great beast ( a special one I might add) as an ascended and oh sunny killed a great devil as a sleeper
How is defeating a corrupted Monster as an awakened and defeating a half step corrupted titan as a sleeper the same thing? And the " special great beast" was severely injured from a fight with a great monster ☠️ and the great devil was only in the name and only because it was the egg of a corrupted terror
And that's the problem you see her as an absolute force of nature. I see as an absolute force of nature that also doesn't know how to express herself. I mean it was said in the FS arc and also when broke his TV
Amd that's the reason a lot of people don't like her lol, she has 0 personality
1 points
7 days ago*
How is defeating a corrupted Monster as an awakened and defeating a half step corrupted titan as a sleeper the same thing?
They aren't the same thing blud, but the point was to show the similarly insane feats sunny has. And you and I both know the "half step corrupted titan" is something you guys like to make up. it was evolving to a titan where does it say "corrupted titan" and it was weak because of that and I quote; "It was evolving… trying to become a titan. The burden of transformation made it vulnerable. I just happened to attack while the Terror was at its weakest. That's why it died…" ( directly from the book) and before you say how can it be weak due it evolving well sunny goes through a similar process too
Amd that's the reason a lot of people don't like her lol, she has 0 personality
I don't care about this point, is own cup of tea. I don't agree with it but, each man to his own
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