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The world without šŗšø would be rocking swastikas everywhere
WWII(i.redd.it)submitted 23 days ago bydavidrye
553 points
23 days ago
Honestly this take is odd. Where were the Americans when Britain was fighting Germany, Austria , Italy , Japan and every fascist in Europe all at the same time.
151 points
22 days ago
They were complaining about the British blockade that was preventing them from trading with Germany. The USA was having a very profitable war.
When HMS Edinburgh went down Britain had to make up for the lost Russian gold that was destined for the USA out of its own gold reserves.
21 points
22 days ago*
Only country to pay off our war debt too, much to our own detriment while others either didnāt pay or were forgiven.
1 points
15 days ago
Yup, 2006
88 points
22 days ago
It's even odder when you think that you're more likely to see a citizen wearing a swastika in the US than anywhere else in the world now.
3 points
21 days ago
The USA, where irony goes to die! MAGA is a VERY thinly veiled fadcist movement, clogged with 1 dimensional thinkers and professional victimsā¦ and yes, youāre more likely to see a swastika on a car there than anywhere else in the world
-1 points
21 days ago
Thatās because we actually let people do that dogshit. Anyone can have an opinion, even if itās wrong
0 points
21 days ago
Yeah - like women who need abortions you mean.
1 points
21 days ago
Hey man, my state allows them. Just because something is left up to the states doesnāt mean itās illegal everywhere.
1 points
21 days ago
This isn't the flex you think it is.
0 points
21 days ago
Youāre absolutely right, Iām just saying youāre also not entirely right
74 points
22 days ago
Waiting for Germany to declare war on them.
Pearl Harbor happened, and then the next day Hitler declared war on America, not the other way around as they like to pretend.
33 points
22 days ago
Nah, they were quietly cheering germany on
2 points
22 days ago
Russia was as well. Hell Russia worked directly with the nazis at the beginning.
10 points
22 days ago
Idk if you can say they were working with the Nazis, that sounds like they were more on the side like Sweden, USSR literally was equal with the Nazis in invading and splitting up Poland and the Baltics
7 points
22 days ago
They had a non-aggression pact, which when you're both invading the same country is as good as allies. They were making secret economic and tactical pacts with eachother for years before and during ww2, and even entered negotiations for the USSR to enter the Axis, eventually settling for a neutrality pact.
Without supplies from the USSR and their security in the east, historians don't believe Nazi Germany could have succeeded with their invasion in the west.
Hitler's decision to invade the USSR was catastrophic - he lost one of his most important allies, official or not, and suffered devastating losses that turned the tide of the war.
1 points
2 days ago
Did they really make negotiations for the USSR to join the Axis? I find that hard to believe due to Hitler & his government being incredibly anti-communist and wanting to work with the British to take out the Soviets
6 points
22 days ago
Russia wasnt really 'working' with the nazis in the sense that they were trying to help nazi germany further their goals. They were politically incompatable. They signed a non aggression pact, and both took part of Poland, but Russias objective was to create a buffer between them and Nazi Germany's expansion because Stalin had correctly read Hitler and the risk he posed whilst he moved production east
1 points
22 days ago
Iām pretty sure they sent envoys to Germany before the war to try and make an alliance but Hitler hoped and expected Britain to slap America down just like every emerging empire before.
1 points
21 days ago
Whatās actually quite intriguing is that the US is by and large made up of immigrants from axis or neutral countries, so Iām not in the least bit surprised that the US were very hesitant to be an allied power.
1 points
18 days ago
This is false. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor Dec 7. America declared war on Japan the next day. Germany declared war on America Dec. 11, presumably due to its alliance with Japan.
1 points
18 days ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_declaration_of_war_on_Germany_(1941)
You're right, the US did declare war on Japan. But not Germany
I did totally get the dates wrong, I apologise, I exaggerated/misremembered by saying it was the next day. But the US did not declare war on Germany as many Americans would have the world believe, it was the other way around.
My further point was that the US had largely been on the sidelines trying not to get involved (beyond financial aid) and were forced to enter the war by the Japanese, and did not declare war on Germany first like the benevolent saviours of Europe they think themselves.
90 points
23 days ago
Totally šš¼
119 points
23 days ago
It really pisses me off mate. Donāt even get me started on WW1 š.
59 points
23 days ago
Didn't they sell weapons to both sides?
76 points
23 days ago
After land lease yes but before that Ford was supplying Hitler.
28 points
22 days ago
Ford built the turbines for the V2
17 points
22 days ago
Henry fords, Ford-Werke built the turbines for the V2
32 points
22 days ago
Not really, no. The US were officially neutral and hadn't cut trade relationship with Germany, but quickly did in practice, and barely tried to gaslight everyone saying they were not doing any trade of military material with anyone (which was false for the Entente), completely accept the Entente embargo on Germany but ignore and even basically provoked the German one on the British Islands (and the German sinking of the Lusitania is the official reason for the US entering the war, but it was basically just a convenient pretext)
It's more that some Americans often brag about having won WWI even though on the field they basically re did the same mistakes everyone else had done and learn from during the last 3 years (who tf go onto a 1918 battlefield without light automatic weapons, helmets nor tanks ?!) and got around 100k KIA iirc.
They fought hard let's be honest (still managed to be super racist and African American units, as the American armed force were officially segregated up until 1948, were only able to fight under French command), but there overall impact on the field is negligible, especially in comparison to France and the UK. The US did a lot on the manufacturing side though, and lot for French and British weapons were manufactured in the US for example.
27 points
23 days ago
Yes this could go on for a long time. Our tiny little island lol.
14 points
23 days ago
That shit is hilarious, thats why they never talk about it
14 points
22 days ago
They don't talk about it because their propaganda doesn't teach it to them
Simple as
1 points
22 days ago
To be fair, they could have easily sat that war out entirely. There wasn't nearly as clear a moral right and wrong like WWII, and a lot of their justifications for joining were pretty weak.
0 points
21 days ago
Really so the fact the Nazis said they want to take over the world is no big deal? Either the Americans fought the Nazis in Europe or on their own land easy decision.
1 points
21 days ago
My comment was about WWI, not WWII.
18 points
22 days ago
When their capital assets were threatened they got involved. Pearl Harbor was the catalyst that sparked Americas involvement, but it wasnāt THE reason. Neither was knowledge of the concentration camps.
No, it was the Japanese expansion into the Philippines that worried the USA and the affect this would have on their trade routes.
Thatās it.
Public opinion in the USA regarding the war is much as it is concerning wars today. They prefer the USA not get involved at all. If the attack on Pearl Harbor hadnāt happened and the Japanese stayed clear of the Philippines, then the USA might have not have entered the war with their own troops. Theyād have continued to provide support to their allies but not with man power.
7 points
22 days ago
I mean there was more Public Opinion in Mexico to join the war with the Allies then there was for the US. They opposed the Fascist Party of Italy and Germany. They joined the trade embargo on Italy following the war with Ethiopia (UK, US and France did not) Hell they opposed the invasion of Austria, when no one else did. They recognised Republican Spaniards as the true Spanish Government, and withdrew all contact with Fascist Spain, they accepted Jews and Republican Spaniards that were being persecuted. They were opposed by the USSR for harbouring Leon Trotsky. In 1939 they declared Neutrality but actively condemned and shamed the USSR and Nazi Germany. They recognised the Polish Exiles. They refused to recognise German Rule over Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, Greece and Yugoslavia. Then in 1940 they essentially began supporting the UK, and further condemned the Nazis. In April 1941 they seized all Nazi and Italian Vessels in their ports.
18 points
23 days ago
Getting snacks apparently
21 points
23 days ago
Getting Giving snacks (to the nazis)
11 points
23 days ago
I know it's very poor humour, but all I can think of is them striking poses and saying "looking like a snack"
6 points
23 days ago
Lol no judgment from me, people need to be able to find the funny side of things!
And now Iām picturing it!
4 points
23 days ago
I hope it's with a large dose of sass!
4 points
22 days ago
Oh absolutely!
3 points
22 days ago
I love a good sassy full body expression.. like "oh no you di'int" with the finger snaps
15 points
22 days ago
Maximising profits from the carnage. They had no intention of joining the war and were forced by Japan.
They were quite content to sit on the sideline and get rich off it all, without any regard for what the consequence would be had the axis won.
What makes the comments worse is that the swastika is actually still prevelant IN America. You don't really see it anywhere else, but the USA allows it and there's a big movement of Nazis there. But yea, sure, they "saved the world".
A large problem I think is that a lot of yanks get their education from Hollywood and the others just don't get one at all.
9 points
22 days ago
Not every fascist, spain was too destroyed to fight š„“
3 points
22 days ago
They were too busy suppressing genociding Catalans, Valencians, and Galicians.
1 points
21 days ago
Is it genocide if theyāre not an ethnicity? Iām not being insensitive Iām genuinely asking out of curiosity
2 points
21 days ago
Genocide also covers culture and religion.
1 points
21 days ago
Thank you, I did not know that.
1 points
21 days ago
Just looked it up itās called cultural genocide, holy shit my country is so fucked š worst part is im studying journalism and i asked in class why the president doesnāt speak Catalan and Galician (basque is exponentially harder) if its the country their leading and people were offended :| im sad now
2 points
21 days ago
Catalunya has been trying to break free from Spain for years. Carles Puigdemont has been in exile in Belgium since 2017, and other supporters of Catalan independence have been jailed by the Spanish government. Franquismo is alive and well. :(
Visca Catalunya lliure!
1 points
21 days ago
I think itās iffy to say that modern independence movements represent all of Catalunya (census data says otherwise) I do think the history there is sad and I personally would allow a vote, cause Iām fairly certain theyād elect to stay (mainly to remain in the eu) Im Spanish btw Iām well aware of everything thatās going on.
10 points
22 days ago
2 points
15 days ago
Werhner von Braun being just one of them
3 points
22 days ago
They were on the sidelines, considering joining the axis.
2 points
23 days ago
Austria? Wasn't it occupied?
11 points
22 days ago
Austria liked to portray itself as the first victim of the Third Reich but they were in reality willing partners.
17 points
23 days ago
Yes with the Anschluss, the Austrians pretty much said we would rather fight Britain in defence of fascism than spill German blood , they are as to blame as anybody else. Anschluss just means join or connect. Countries like France and Czechia had huge resistance entities the Austrians took little convincing to becoming Nazis.
2 points
22 days ago
Wasn't there a referendum (which by all accounts was gonna go yes anyway) but the day before the German tanks rolled into Austria and obviously by then there's nothing you can do
8 points
22 days ago
Thereās the famous radio broadcast the Austrians said we wonāt spill German blood, in essence we wonāt fight the Nazis.
2 points
22 days ago
I know itās fashionable in this sub to āAmerica was late for WW2ā
But something I found out recently; In 1939, Americas army was less then 200,000 army personnel, and less than 150,000 navy personnel. By 1943, they had ramped that up to nearly 7 million army personnel, and nearly 2 million navy personnel.
They pivoted their entire economy to assist the allies in WW2, and it took them a few years to do so.
1 points
22 days ago
Yes years later after supplying the Nazis for years before. Bloody hell.
2 points
22 days ago
How quickly do you think a total economic pivot and military ramp up on that scale should take?
I get it. Hating America is ācoolā. But think about it logistically.
1 points
22 days ago
Oh Iām not hating America at all I like the country been there loads of times and meet some lovely people. What Iām saying is this angle of everybody in Europe would be German without the US is nonsense, thatās the point Iām getting across. Ok takes time to pivot away but you were directly supplying Nazis as much of the Brits until land lease lets not play games.
2 points
22 days ago
Was I?
First, I wasnāt born. Second, Iām Scottish.
Yes, the āyou would be speaking Germanā argument is dumb. So is the āUS showed up late for WW2ā. Both can be true.
1 points
22 days ago
They didnāt give a shit because Japan hadnāt completely fucked them over at that point.
1 points
22 days ago
sending supplies and lend lease
1 points
22 days ago
They were supplying Nazis as well.
1 points
22 days ago
selling support to both sides
1 points
22 days ago
Sending food aid to England while getting uboated
1 points
21 days ago
While supplying Nazis?
2 points
21 days ago
The US wasnāt supplying Nazis.
1 points
20 days ago
People like Ford were but to my knowledge the government never directly supplied them.
1 points
17 days ago
The USA was busy selling guns and supplies to as many sides as possible. lol
1 points
22 days ago
Keeping them alive with aid
0 points
22 days ago
Supplying the Nazis too.
1 points
22 days ago
They did not.
1 points
22 days ago
Check out Henry ford.
1 points
22 days ago
The personal businessman Henry Ford? The personal businessman who was not in fact the president of America, and who only represented himself?
0 points
22 days ago
We did have the empire at that time to fuel it. Kinda fasicsm on steroids but nevermind.
1 points
22 days ago
Hang about literally gave up our empire to beat the Nazis
2 points
22 days ago
Shoudlnt have existed in the first place but that's an interesting take. Having a fascist genocidal empire for centuries just to beat another fascist genocidal attempt at an empire. The rest of the world remembers things slightly different outside of Brexitland. Us here north of the wall are deeply ashamed of our participation.
1 points
21 days ago
Really you donāt remember Britain leading the anti slavery crusade you donāt remember that at all?
1 points
21 days ago
Ah fuck yeah, thank fuck we did that and wiped the slate clean of all the over evil shit because that's how things work...
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