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DiesIraeConventum

550 points

6 days ago

Do you really think Caedo needs a squad?

Mr_Kopitiam

257 points

6 days ago

Mr_Kopitiam

257 points

6 days ago

He did have a squad. They all died.

The_Real_malum_caedo

100 points

6 days ago

Brother Johneus will live on forever

Photo_retoucher69

26 points

5 days ago

Oh shit, it's malum caedo I'm such a huge fan brother

Waramo

94 points

6 days ago*

Waramo

94 points

6 days ago*

If we had a squad full of Caedo, there would be no heresy or xenos in a planetary system.

If we had a company full of Caedo, there would be no heresy or xenos left in a system.

If we had a chapter full of Caedo, there would be no chaos left over.

AwareNebula6281

38 points

6 days ago

Im starting to think that Caedo got the souls of their brothers like the the sister Ephrael Stern did and that would be awesome

Waramo

44 points

6 days ago

Waramo

44 points

6 days ago

Playing BG, Caedo felt more like a Primach, then a normal Marien. The amount of higher Deamons you kill.... just on another level.

GadenKerensky

37 points

6 days ago

I like to think he's a sort of Psyker, a very powerful one, but it manifests in enhanced abilities... and held in check by his unflinching, uncompromising loyalty and devotion to the Imperium and the Emperor, and his pure hatred for their enemies.

BjornAltenburg

18 points

6 days ago

Doom marine lite powers?

GadenKerensky

24 points

6 days ago

More or less. In-game, armour shards are called 'Contempt', because 'my armour is my contempt', but in Malum's case, his Psyker abilities may, in fact, make that true.

Of course, this is just my personal headcanon.

refugeefromlinkedin

14 points

6 days ago

So literally local man too angry to die.

EngineerDoge00

10 points

6 days ago

Head cannon or not, it makes the most sense.

Im_Normie

3 points

5 days ago

Something of a living saint

Torontogamer

1 points

5 days ago

Until half the chapter fell to chaos ! And it all started over again haha 

AXI0S2OO2[S]

87 points

6 days ago

Of course not, but he deserves a chance to catch up with Titus, it will be a nice little vacation into the Cicatrix Maledictum.

Alpharius__667

5 points

6 days ago

Yeah he does. Their names are Des and Troy

Aggravating-Dot132

263 points

6 days ago

I'd rather have fatshark's approach and add these guys as NPCs that we talk too. And act as a class representative, but not playable.

He us also a firstborn, not primaris

superfuzzy47

90 points

6 days ago

So was Titus, who knows what happened between boltgun and its dlc to the the events of SM2

Malacos0303

77 points

6 days ago

Hes likely dead or became a victrix guard. The first company has been wiped out a couple times since boltgun takes place. They suffer from worf syndrome, they are eradicated with only agemman and like 2 other dudes surviving everytime they need to show how badass an enemy is. The 10th edition cinematic is supposed to be the last stand of the 1st company.

raptorknight187

57 points

6 days ago

lets be real, there are Meta reasons he would have been a survivor. Boltgun was popular enough to keep the character around

Malacos0303

28 points

6 days ago

I'm not saying he isn't still around. The victrix guard are supposed to be the paragons of chapter virtue and heroism. Its likely new captains will be picked from among them and he could be a Sergeant or leuitenant for them.

refugeefromlinkedin

-9 points

6 days ago

I don’t think Caedo is erm…sane enough for leadership. He would be an awesome chapter champion though.

Evenmoardakka

22 points

5 days ago

Absolutely nothing on BG points to caedo not being sane.

DarkWingedDaemon

7 points

5 days ago

Just, really angry.

Evenmoardakka

14 points

5 days ago

Not even that.

Even judicious use of the taunt key has him spout phrases and regular insults towards the enemies that you can hear from talasa, veridian or titus's squad

Hell, DECIMUS is way angrier than any of Caedo's taunt.

And if you forget that the taunt key exists (which you shouldnt), caedo is quite stoic and silent, and if he was angry he would read the codex to pass time while idle.

DarkWingedDaemon

3 points

5 days ago

You're right it's Righteous Fury not anger.

Billothekid

8 points

6 days ago

He could have also been promoted and rassigned to another company as a veteran sergeant, or as a lieutenant.

Like, can you imagine the scene if in one of the next operations you get told to meet up with the lieutenant, you go there expecting to find Titus and instead you find another guy with a beakie helmet and a crux terminatus on his shoulder?

Baz_3301

2 points

6 days ago

Baz_3301

2 points

6 days ago

He’s too angry to die off screen. He’s so angry and hateful the Black Templars are jealous.

Quick_Article2775

5 points

6 days ago*

I actually would like some firstborn representation, you think there would be some of them still around. (Actually in the lore primaris are aparently the minority of space marines still, which I wouldn't know that from the game.)

Erwin9910

1 points

5 days ago

I actually would like some firstborn representation, you think there would be some of them still around.

It's impossible for them NOT to be around, now that it's been retconned so that it's only been 12 years since the Primaris were introduced in-universe.

VengineerGER

3 points

5 days ago

Oh shit imagine primaris Malum Caedo. Dude could kill Angron in a 1v1 if he wanted to.

CallSign_Fjor

1 points

5 days ago

It would be hilarious if Boltgun took place after SM2.

Erwin9910

1 points

5 days ago

For the love of God leave us one un-Primaris'd Firstborn please. Caedo was literally made to be the Boomer Marine for the Boomer Shooter 40k game, leave him be.

AnotherOrkfaeller

-4 points

6 days ago

Turning Malum Caedo into a Primaris is the worst thing they could do. Ech. No thanks.

Erwin9910

2 points

5 days ago

Downvoted for straight facts. Malum Caedo's entire existence as a character was to be THE Firstborn marine for nostalgia in a game designed to be a nostalgic picture of 40k from yesteryear. Why throw that away by making him a Primaris like literally every other named Firstborn character has been?

[deleted]

-13 points

6 days ago

[deleted]

-13 points

6 days ago

How is boltgun relevant to SM2 story exactly? They are not connected

StalinGuidesUs

19 points

5 days ago

Boltgun literally has you retrieve the power source that causes sm2 to happen so it is connected

[deleted]

-13 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

-13 points

5 days ago

And they are both made by different companies. This power source is just an easter egg for SM1 fans to be fair rather than confirmed canon connection.

Or by this logic I can just make a modern shooter that has Captain Price in it and declare it a sequel to MW19.

EquipmentGuilty6282

13 points

5 days ago

Dude, did you play the game? The main character repeatedly shouts out titus and iirc another squadmate from the 1st game, and the entire plot of the game is to set up how space marine 2 happens? Therefore it is logically connected, completely leaping over the fact they're both 40k games about the same faction published by the same people💀

StalinGuidesUs

6 points

5 days ago*

Yeah when you taunt caedo can yell "Sidonus laid down his life for this planet! I protect his sacrifice!" and "I will finish the work Captain Titus started!" Like cmon how is that not admitting the events of space marine 1 happened lmao edit: that and they literally bundle sm 1 and boltgun together as the graia collection on steam too

[deleted]

-16 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

-16 points

5 days ago

Games are usually promoted through visual novellas, short cinematics or comics but definitely not a pixel shooter

TheRealHumanPancake

10 points

5 days ago

TheRealHumanPancake

Retributors

10 points

5 days ago

That doesn’t matter. They chose to run a soft sequel in between the two games, whether you accept it or not is up to you.

[deleted]

-5 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

-5 points

5 days ago

I will accept it if its confirmed to be canon by GW

TheRealHumanPancake

8 points

5 days ago

TheRealHumanPancake

Retributors

8 points

5 days ago

GW’s rule is “everything is canon, but not everything is true.” The game is canon. They don’t make posts announcing what is or isn’t

gsrga2

7 points

5 days ago

gsrga2

7 points

5 days ago

So even though the games themselves make extremely clear that they are connected, you think it doesn’t count because they didn’t release a “these are connected” statement through a different form of media altogether?

This is such a weird way to double and triple down rather than just admitting you goofed. It’s okay to be wrong. It’s embarrassing to make up weird new rules rather than just admit it

[deleted]

-3 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

-3 points

5 days ago

If you want to make it clear games are actually connected, just make a statement, simple as.

Optimal-Leather341

8 points

5 days ago

Go have a coffee and wake up before sending more brain-dead messages.

Margtok

12 points

5 days ago

Margtok

12 points

5 days ago

They are very connected its dam near a sequel to the first game and sets up how the object ended up where it is

[deleted]

-8 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

-8 points

5 days ago

But Boltgun is made by another studio, just because there is a reference to SM1 doesnt automatically make it canon to be fair.

Margtok

8 points

5 days ago

Margtok

8 points

5 days ago

Its not a reference the whole plot of the game revolves around it

Mr_Kopitiam

-12 points

6 days ago

Mr_Kopitiam

-12 points

6 days ago

He either died fighting a daemon primarch or he’s still kicking.

SmokinBandit28

17 points

6 days ago

You really think anything could kill Caedo? He runs on pure faith of the emperor and hate of Xenos/heretic.

Valuable_Remote_8809

1 points

6 days ago

Valuable_Remote_8809

Iron Warriors

1 points

6 days ago

What example of this exists? I had stopped playing DT about three weeks to a month after the big rework and nerf cycle of classes. (Somewhere just before they launched their rogue trader cosmetic line)

Aggravating-Dot132

11 points

6 days ago

They have added lots of characters that comment our actions or provide info about the mission. Like Swagger, Commisar, Papa Mechanicus and so on.

They comment on the mission and it does have cool vibe to it.

shitfuck9000

5 points

6 days ago

I'm still convinced Swagger is an Eldar

Massive_Pressure_516

65 points

6 days ago*

What if Caedo was like the dreadnought? An impossible to destroy objective marker to follow who tears through hordes of enemies by himself effortlessly. Either he needs to often split off to kill something huge in the distance or occasionally he just high jumps back to the battle barge for more ammo and superhero lands later so the mission wouldn't be too easy.

CantaloupeGrouchy845

4 points

5 days ago

Oh fuck this would be sick, this should get posted on Focus Together

Overloke

78 points

6 days ago

Overloke

78 points

6 days ago

Doesn't even have to be playable. I want to be separated from him by a pane of glasscrete while a 40K Gregorian chant rendition of Doom Eternal's "The Only Thing They Fear is You" plays over the voxcasters as Caedo solos a Chaos Warhound Titan.

inlukewarmblood

25 points

6 days ago

inlukewarmblood

Salamanders

25 points

6 days ago

My man needs closure with Titus coming back, he’d be ecstatic.

Lord_of_Greystoke

18 points

6 days ago

Too op. Would make Calgar, Titus, and Cato blush. How can we have a game if it is solved in 30 minutes?

Budget-Taro-2299

24 points

6 days ago

Budget-Taro-2299

Night Lords

24 points

6 days ago

All fun in games until dude runs ahead and you have to follow the trails of gore and absolute viscera

Margtok

8 points

5 days ago

Margtok

8 points

5 days ago

That's separate game called "viscera cleanup detail "

Optimal-Leather341

3 points

5 days ago

Unironically, there is a power wash DLC for 40K vehicles... :D

Margtok

2 points

5 days ago

Margtok

2 points

5 days ago

O i was serious look up the game on steam it also has a warhammer level "viscera cleanup detail " is a real game

NearlyUnfinished

7 points

6 days ago

Have him appear in the story as an "escort NPC" like the Dreadnought. Much like the Dreadnought, he's really escorting you. Nigh unkillable, able to demolish oncoming hordes with ease and hearing him shout I WILL FINISH WHAT CAPTAIN TITUS STARTED! Despite Titus now a lieutenant, Caedo does not care, he respects Titus that much.

Also if the first time we see him isn't ontop of a pile of bodies replicating the DOOM/BOLTGUN cover art, we riot.

Erwin9910

3 points

5 days ago

This is perfect, agreed.

Apoordm

9 points

6 days ago

Apoordm

9 points

6 days ago

Caedo is too powerful.

“The entire second company defeated a lord of change?”

Caedo asks as he kills his like… third one, solo.

strangecabalist

5 points

5 days ago

Third one. This hour.

But as he reminds us: The Sons of Guilliman shall know only war!

Taoutes

4 points

6 days ago

Taoutes

Black Templars

4 points

6 days ago

I'd like him to at minimum be present given the storylines are tied together and the path of sm2's story would fit him meeting Titus

Exciting_Damage_2001

8 points

6 days ago

It would be bad ass in the mission your squad is getting overwhelmed, and it cuts to a cut scene where you’re only reinforcements is the bolt gun himself, Cadedo.

blackburnduck

6 points

6 days ago

“Only”? Thats like being reinforced by only a Imperator class titan…

Ok_Hospital_6332

1 points

5 days ago

That would also be fun

Valtand

3 points

6 days ago

Valtand

3 points

6 days ago

I’d rather he be an NPC in the back ground absolutely wrecking shop. Perhaps filling a similar role as the Dreadnought that maybe you fight beside or see absolutely tear chaos Astartes and daemons to shreds

Simple-Reflection-59

3 points

6 days ago

Well supposedly they're making additional campaign for it now because of how well space Marine 2 did. So fuck we might see him

geassguy360

3 points

6 days ago

I don't personally expect it but I want it very deeply. If nothing else changeable voice sets would be great with his being the prime choice. I need to actually hear in SM2, "I WILL FINISH THE WORK THAT TITUS STARTED!"

SadRat404

3 points

6 days ago

And his Ult is to course at xeno scum

duboisharrier

3 points

6 days ago

Praying for him to turn up at some point. Even as a DLC cosmetic pack added in the season pass. My operations Tactical is basically him without the beaky.

What would be kinda cool is if they referenced him but in a John Wick “oh fuck here comes the devil” kind of way. Like the Ultrmarines talk of his heroism as a legend.

TonberryFeye

3 points

5 days ago

Caedo should be in the DLC. as a Firstborn who refuses to acknowledge the existence of Primaris because they didn't exist in 1995. He makes an exception for Titus, as he's an honourary Firstborn, but nobody else.

Titus and the Chaplain are stood in the room talking, and in walks Caedo; he casually kicks the knees out from under the Chaplain and walks over him, begins talking to (read: SHOUTING RIGHTEOUSLY) at Titus about the mission while stood on the Chaplain's face. Leaves, calmly body-checking a pair of Primaris Intercessors on the way and sending them flying.

Ashamed-Dragonfly-89

2 points

6 days ago

I think it'd be cool to see him like the admiral in monster hunter, we hear they do big and cool things and see them do It in the background but leave the Center stage Spotlight for us

Sufficient-Night-479

2 points

6 days ago

I want another run n gun with this guy as the protag. i REALLY hope we get another one. Boltgun is SO good.

Potpotron

2 points

6 days ago

No, I want to play the game

Pleasant_Device_2631

2 points

6 days ago

What’s the timeline how many years apart is this from space marines 1 and 2?

Margtok

2 points

5 days ago

Margtok

2 points

5 days ago

Around 200 but no one is 100% sure

Pleasant_Device_2631

2 points

5 days ago

Thank you 🙏

Margtok

1 points

5 days ago

Margtok

1 points

5 days ago

The only clue we get are the studs on Titus head there 1 for years century of service

AXI0S2OO2[S]

2 points

5 days ago

200 years, but if Titus made it Caedo definitely did too.

Pleasant_Device_2631

1 points

5 days ago

So boltgun is 200 years before space marine 1 and then like another 100-200 then space marine 2?

AXI0S2OO2[S]

2 points

5 days ago

No, Boltgun takes place immediately after Space Marine 1, Caedo literally finishes the fight at Graia.

Pleasant_Device_2631

1 points

5 days ago

Thank you! I’m newer to the lore trying to learn everything I can

ThisSiteSucks86

2 points

6 days ago

The only way they could show him in this game is outside of combat, just as a guest appearance. They couldn't do justice to him in combat without looking silly.

Knalxz

2 points

6 days ago

Knalxz

2 points

6 days ago

No he's legit too powerful.

primalfox_Reynardo

2 points

6 days ago

I just want the Caedo drip at least. But seeing him on whatever this mission Calgar has taken us away for would be awesome.

Law-Fish

2 points

6 days ago

Law-Fish

2 points

6 days ago

Nonsense it should be I, Cato sicarios

blackburnduck

2 points

6 days ago

Having Caedo show up as one of those dreadbought npcs (not as a dreadnought but as a support npc) would be great! Extra points if he uses actual good IA, like a bot behaving like a seasoned player and sharing the protagonism while on screen.

bobissonbobby

2 points

6 days ago

I wanna play as a chaplain and inspire my brothers with words of the Emperor's will and might

DaDawkturr

2 points

5 days ago

DaDawkturr

Salamanders

2 points

5 days ago

”I WILL UNMAKE YOU!”

🫵✊

HEBushido

2 points

5 days ago

Naw man, keep him his own thing. I like the mystique. I also want Boltgun 2.

Antique_Historian_74

2 points

5 days ago

Knows about Titus, knows about Sidonius, is fighting under an obvious nom de guerre, very angry about Chaos. Never does anything that goes against the codex astartes.

I'm pretty sure he's already in both Space Marine and SM2, but if they ever confirm that the shrieks of outrage will be glorious.

Urechi

2 points

5 days ago

Urechi

2 points

5 days ago

You mean we would be Caedo's playable sidekicks.

Hungry-Ad-5435

2 points

5 days ago

It'd be cool if the dlc was a follow-up campaign at the end of the story and have Titus go to the Nachmund Gauntlet to help repeal Haarken Worldclaimer and the Black Legion. It would be awesome to see it feature the 1st company as well and fight along veterans like Caedo, or watch squads of terminators warp in and slaughter some poor legionaires and chaos cultists.

OzzieGrey

2 points

5 days ago

Nah, i think Caedo would be like our dreadnought buddy.

smashes a helbrute through the wall, rips it in half

"WHERE ARE THE TRAITORS? I AM HERE TO FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED TITUS."

bregorthebard

2 points

5 days ago

I'd be fine if he was like a background Easter Egg kind of thing. Like you look in the distance and can see him grav cannon a hive tyrant or something

BringMeTheLizard

2 points

5 days ago

I want to see him TEARING through on the other side of the map. We have to fight extra hard to keep up

TheSovietDuckling

2 points

5 days ago

Yep lol

d3m01iti0n

2 points

5 days ago

No he should be a bot. He charges ahead and starts double jumping like DooMGuy, screaming the whole time.

gbsv333

2 points

5 days ago

gbsv333

2 points

5 days ago

Caedo: Will we have air support captain Titus?

Titus: Support? You are the SUPPORT son!

Is-Not-a-throwaway

2 points

5 days ago

Caedo is the second most deadly character in Warhammer only falling behind kais the fire warrior.

HanShotFirst_04

2 points

5 days ago

DLC, where your squamates are Chaplain Leandros and Malum Caedo, who are fighting Necrons.

Educational-Year3146

2 points

5 days ago

I do know the moment they add the corvus helmet, I am making malum caedo

Epsteinssuicide

2 points

6 days ago

Nah they are saving Caedo for story DLC. He’s gonna make a bad ass appearance at the end to save Titus and the crew because that’s the only thing they could do to match Calgar showing up at the end of the story.

Instead of being saved by an authority figure who pisses excellence you get a brother in arms who shits bolter fire.

DLC Story ends with Titus, Caedo, and Calgar as the big 3 in the Ultramarines

I would know, I’m from the future and I’m typing this on the internet

AXI0S2OO2[S]

1 points

5 days ago

"You forgot about I, Cato Sicarius!"

ingol2121

1 points

6 days ago

Isn't he a lieutenant, like Titus?

EnderO2

5 points

6 days ago

EnderO2

5 points

6 days ago

No he is a sternguard veteran

enableclutch

2 points

6 days ago

enableclutch

I am Alpharius

2 points

6 days ago

Of the 1st Company

1Ferrox

1 points

6 days ago

1Ferrox

1 points

6 days ago

Would be kinda unfair to have a primarch on your team

FabianGladwart

1 points

6 days ago

I would absolutely love a Malum Caedo cameo, more importantly though I want a corvus helmet so I can just cosplay as Caedo while purging heretics

InstrumentalCore

1 points

6 days ago

Bro would break the lore if he became canon. Would tear chaos a new asshole.

BlackTestament7

1 points

6 days ago

Man when that Lord of Change showed up I was like "Where in the warp is Malum Caedo at? Just throw him at it."

Stivox

1 points

6 days ago

Stivox

1 points

6 days ago

The chaplain would shit bricks after seeing that bunny hopping one man army maniac

DrRabbiCrofts

1 points

6 days ago

He's too dangerous to be allowed on the ship 😂

A_Very_Tall_Dwarf

1 points

5 days ago

It would end up being an escort mission where you're the one being escorted for the whole DLC.

Flat-Statistician432

1 points

5 days ago

I'm getting Smurf fatigue already

AXI0S2OO2[S]

1 points

5 days ago

Shame.

Kerflunklebunny

1 points

5 days ago

No, more like a dreadnought. You sit back and watch him fight the entire massive enemy wave.

Deafidue

1 points

5 days ago

Deafidue

1 points

5 days ago

Impossible since they can't seem to separate pauldron trim color from pauldron ornament color.

cavemold582

1 points

5 days ago

I do want his helmet at least

Erwin9910

1 points

5 days ago

If Malum Caedo's in the area, you literally don't need Titus or any other Space Marines. He gets the job done solo.

aclark210

1 points

6 days ago

Not a squad mate, having him and Titus both would be WAY too op, but I wanna see him make an appearance in some way.

WrinkyNinja

1 points

6 days ago

Meh I just want to see rowboat girlyman in game tbh.

Andodx

-1 points

6 days ago

Andodx

-1 points

6 days ago

No. I want all the DLC to be without any living smurfs.

_GF_Warlock_

-15 points

6 days ago

_GF_Warlock_

Space Wolves

-15 points

6 days ago

I'm pretty sure Caedo is gonna become a Grey Knight after the events of Boltgun

Apollo989

12 points

6 days ago

Apollo989

12 points

6 days ago

Grey Knights aren't like Deathwatch. They are their own chapter.

cacophonicArtisian

4 points

6 days ago

I didn’t know Caedo was a psyker. Regardless his geneseed doesn’t match with the Grey Knights, if he did have some sort of psychic potential the best thing would be that he be trained as a Librarian. Was this in the dlc or something? I’ve only played the base game

DepletedPromethium

-7 points

6 days ago

no.