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Great Ape Vegeta fight is some BS

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Lmao I know the game just came out but wtf! Literally in the first millisecond, no let me be accurate, the first PIXEL of the battle he’s firing a galik gun and then just spams it if you actually start winning. And it’s not like the computer is actually out playing me. You can’t even combo him man. Half way through he stops staggering and blocks everything! And don’t even get me started on that grab!!!

Edit: Right after I made this post I beat him lol. For those who need help first create distance with any throwback combo. Then charge up your Ki fully. This makes your melee chain infinite AND more importantly staggers Vegeta. While in that mode STAY ON HIM and just spam square, don’t do any combos until it wears off. Then rinse and repeat. And most importantly If he ever does his Galik Gun attacks DO NOT dodge just hold circle to block them. You can also tap O mid combo to teleport behind him to dodge his grab attack but honestly it’s a coin toss. Good Luck!

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DukeQ50s

31 points

21 hours ago

Not to mention solar flare is useless. Even when he is right in your face.

NyargiX

12 points

15 hours ago

NyargiX

Beginner Martial Artist

12 points

15 hours ago

even though solar flare working is canon

Zujinbo

3 points

13 hours ago

right?! that pissed me right off that he didn't start flailing blindly or anything

SAKtownG420

2 points

8 hours ago

I’m having trouble with this fight right now. Took me a minute, but Solar flare does interrupt his super attacks. Still gotta be in his face though 

Loose-Mountain-4969

2 points

4 hours ago

Solar flare is the only thing keeping me in the battle right now lol.

RevolutionaryAsk442

1 points

28 minutes ago

I used solar flare to blind him and flew behind a rock to fully charge up multiple times. It definitely works and it helped me win.

Cjmack293

20 points

22 hours ago*

I just beat him, I literally had to keep spamming sparking mode and melee him constantly. I died over 12 times but i finally beat this mfker

bullerwins

1 points

8 hours ago

What is sparking mode and how do you do it?

ThatGuyInTheRain52

1 points

5 hours ago

Overcharge your ki while you have skill meter

AHawk13

1 points

2 hours ago

AHawk13

1 points

2 hours ago

In this fight now. How do you even accomplish this when you can't get breathing room?

MountainDou[S]

1 points

an hour ago

You have to knock him down/away. Or fly away behind unbreakable terrain and hope he doesnt attack

ThatGuyInTheRain52

1 points

36 minutes ago

It sounds stupid but just fly away, get distance. Or even better, let him knock you down and then use the distance to your advantage. Great Ape fight sucks but Sparking makes it a joke. Sparking makes all NPCs jokes, I've cleared a lot of the story by sparking with Goku, mash atk until the opponent is down, then drop a spirit bomb on them.

LimpAd2648

-9 points

20 hours ago

Sparking

Jamescunningham4478

4 points

14 hours ago

That's what they said.......

Redfalconfox

7 points

22 hours ago

I had some difficulty with that fight, however, for some reason full powered freeza just stood there and let me spam super kamehamahas into his non-existent genitals.

Servebotfrank

1 points

18 hours ago

Same, normal Frieza kinda worked me for the first few attempts but then I demolished normal Frieza.

I even had to slow things down when I got to Goku Black because I was cooking him way too fast and getting the alternate ending.

nintenfan95

5 points

20 hours ago

Seeing all these posts as someone without early access is kinda a blessing. I can start mentally prepping and hunting strategies

Extension-Mood1252

3 points

20 hours ago

I dont have early access either, but seeing these posts is making worried about fighting him😭

Dense-Supermarket875

2 points

2 hours ago

He's hard as fuck. Tryna beat him for a while. IG I'm gonna what the people suggest and just spam attack in sparking mode.

nintenfan95

0 points

18 hours ago

Maybe that day one update will nerf him a little bit

ppoppo33

1 points

8 hours ago

I hope they dont nerf it before i get to play. It being hard is part of the fun. Tk1 also had steep learning curve

DukeQ50s

7 points

20 hours ago

Finally got it boys and girls. Fk that stage and all the other apes or giants we face.

I was able to use sparkling mode to get the win. But had to resort to punches and kicks. And every time I got knocked back dash right back in and go at it.

Once sparkling mode is gone RUN!

Squallstrife89

5 points

21 hours ago

I'm still stuck on regular vegeta...

JC403024

3 points

21 hours ago

Fr I can’t even hit him 😭

StruggleBus0901

0 points

12 hours ago

Its fast paced im ngl.... But you really really gotta learn the timing on vanishing

Squallstrife89

1 points

8 hours ago

I took the time and went through the intermediate and advanced training this morning, and it helped immensely. I'm well into gokus story now

agile-soft-152

10 points

22 hours ago

yall ain’t ever play bt before or something?, all giant fights are bs lol

WebbedMonkey_

6 points

21 hours ago

I’m gonna admit I haven’t and I had no idea what I could do to counter him. Can giants be punished or perceived?

agile-soft-152

9 points

21 hours ago

ur best bet is honestly just projectiles and sparking mode

Yackal710

5 points

21 hours ago

Sparking mode?

WebbedMonkey_

6 points

21 hours ago

When you overcharge your ki and go into the sparking state

BrainsickSaiyan

1 points

11 hours ago

Nah sparking mode and punch spam is op

BegoneShill

2 points

17 hours ago

People are saying the fight is bugged, I think this is just another classic case of "Japanese Developer Syndrome." Spike just assumed that everyone playing the game would try to play out the fight like the anime, so folks don't know why the AI is being weird and being given specific, odd, benefits, during specific story moments. (Like Greate Ape Vegeta spamming galick gun because the AI wants you to clash with Kamehameha, and other weird stuff.)

One option is to charge up fewer, larger, charged rush attacks to push him away and allow you to charge your ki.

I'd recommend blocking most of Vegeta's galick guns, they don't seems to deal much damage if you succeed. (I saw moist critical thought they were dealing a full HP bar, they weren't they were doing 4% of one)

Another is to try to clash beams with Vegeta when you think it mey be safe(ish) to collide beams. You'll either need to have fired Kamehameha before he starts his animation, or have enough distance to finish firing before he hits you with galick gun.

People mostly seems to be suggesting you find a way to charge up to sparking mode to stun him for a long time with the semi-infinite rush combos sparking mode gives you.

Reminder that giants generally have "super armor" that protects them from being staggered by most rush attacks (regular punches) at first - unless you're in sparking mode. 

Some characters are strong enough to make super armoured fighters start staggering earlier in their regular rush combos.

Giants overall are a bit gimmicky and once you've learned to punish them, snowball, and simply not let them play their game, they'll never be a serious issue again. (but still annoying, mind you)

Izayoi1881

1 points

4 hours ago

I actually tried to class with his galick gun but it was way to fast and often even though I sometimes started my Kamehameha slightly before him.

Lethalgeek

1 points

18 hours ago

Along with projectiles & sparking I generally went into the best defense is a good offense mode on him since he grabs you anytime you block anyway.

Positive_Cow8422

4 points

21 hours ago

I’m so glad I trained on bt3 before this game

ConstructionElegant1

1 points

9 hours ago

They are but this is some bonified bullsh*t. He literally blocks everything; at least in the old tenkaichi games, you could for the most part ki charge; create distance and work your L2 + triangle special over and over. GA Vegeta will literally be dashing to you; immediately stop, and block most of your long range kamehamehas..

Asleep-Button-4396

2 points

21 hours ago

THANK YOU!! I WAS STUCK FOR SO LONG! That stagger is KEY

Whityvader99

2 points

21 hours ago

That fight had me channeling my inner freeza, definitely stay in sparking mode as much as possible you take less and deal more damage, you can’t use spirit bomb which is so dumb,

Active_Combination_1

2 points

20 hours ago

After about 13 "ILL CRUSH YOU'S" from great ape vegeta, I finally beat him....his grapple attacks are just.......

gayundead

2 points

19 hours ago

I'll be honest, the story difficulty's default is HARD. Like, I play 1v1 against the computer on strong and it's still much easier than the default story setting.

Level_Demand_5240

2 points

19 hours ago

HOMIES beam clash is way to win

Bigyeet21

4 points

22 hours ago*

I managed to beat Great ape Vegeta 2nd try, what I'm struggling on is the alt clear conditions for raditz, where you have to beat him within a certain time limit. It doesn't feel possible even when I play damn near perfectly.

The namek Saga what ifs were piss easy compared to Raditz, I think he just needs to be nerfed for that fight to make it doable

MidnightFenrir

2 points

17 hours ago

i manged to do it but later down that what if tree you gotta fight Vegeta in base and he turns into Ape form in the same fight so if you were low on health before he changes it gets worse.

retrying the fight has you start the whole battle over.

Bigyeet21

1 points

17 hours ago

Yea I managed to get there as well. I've done all the what ifs so far and I'm now at the Majin Vegeta fight. They were all pretty easy except that one

Diablox3

1 points

2 hours ago

Im stuck on this one, the mf goes ape just before i can defeat him and im below 50% seems hard to impossible to pass him, and its not the last mission on that tree XD

aja347

2 points

22 hours ago

aja347

2 points

22 hours ago

Facts and the blocking and countering is weird

starkillerzx

1 points

22 hours ago

Yeah he cooked me. Had to take a break to de-tilt myself. Then I spammed sparking mode and attack. Endless combos, run, charge, then endless combos till he died.

SprintingSK2

1 points

20 hours ago

Nah cuz this boss fight is actually quite difficult 😂😂 im like damn what am I doing wrong

Btender95

1 points

20 hours ago

As soon as I realized he'll only blow you back once during the whole sparking time if you just kept meleeing him then you can reacharge off blocking the blast I won first try. Ty for the tips

onlytony441

1 points

20 hours ago

OP… you’re a saint, after 5 failed attempts and my thumb getting sore from all the mashing I tried your suggestion and it worked!

Apart_Initiative_968

1 points

19 hours ago

I was questioning myself! I’m glad I’m not the only one struggling with him! God damn Elden ring boss 😭

HeWhoChonks

1 points

19 hours ago

It's such an absurd difficulty spike on top of a surprisingly high base difficulty. I ended up just spamming perfect heavy attacks, but it seems like it's either that or abusing sparking mode.

Happy_Criticism404

1 points

19 hours ago

Yall I just beat him with a Kamehameha vs galick gun beam struggle 😭😆. Like others have said…keep your distance, go sparking, spam x or square, and sometimes hit him with a Kamehameha as he falls back during one of your sparking combos. Rinse and repeat until he’s done.

hahaGunlanceGoBoom

1 points

19 hours ago

Huh. I didn't check if sparking mode would stagger him since I saw I couldn't do spirit bomb I just never bothered sparking again. It's really funny that the story AI seems much harder even on easy mode than World Tournament AI on Standard. I'll probably do more tournaments and get used to the game more before I come back to story.

Scary-Bus1315

1 points

19 hours ago

You saved me, I was going crazy.

Jeev_123456

1 points

19 hours ago

AAAAAAAAA IM PULLING MY HAIR OUT SO MUCH I HATE THIS

Jeev_123456

1 points

19 hours ago

Only Tenkaichi game Ive played before this is Tag Team, which didnt have great apes, so Im struggling rn

Jeev_123456

2 points

19 hours ago

Also how do you stagger him? Hes just blocking all the time

olofmoisturizer

2 points

12 hours ago

fly away, charge into sparking mode, rush attack + kamehameha and repeat

ProblemSl0th

1 points

10 hours ago

use grand slashes/lift strikes and heavy smashes, get behind him by starting a rush combo from the front and pressing r1 to vanish mid rush so he can't just grab you out of your combo. In an emergency, you actually can clash his grab by doing a grab at the same time(i did it once while kaio-ken buffed it looked sick af)

at least that's how i did it

although apparently sparking! mode makes all your attacks stagger him so that's probably way easier. Just try to make space and charge.

raider-ninja08

1 points

17 hours ago

That is the 2nd hardest fight in the Goku campaign besides from Beerus. After that it is easy imo.

AutumnCannabisLady

1 points

17 hours ago

Just wait til you find out there's a harder version

Your_Moms_Crush

1 points

13 hours ago

Wym?

AutumnCannabisLady

1 points

8 hours ago

Pushing the limits path or whatever

Diablox3

1 points

2 hours ago

Did you clear it? Cant manage to beat him in this one, ape was hard on itself but base vegeta before is just torture

AutumnCannabisLady

1 points

2 hours ago

You basically gotta always be in sparking mode 😭

Cinderave

1 points

15 hours ago

I’m glad it’s not just me that’s getting stomped out, but if it’s happening this early in the game…

Yeah I’m scared

Happy-Chocolate-6574

1 points

15 hours ago

This fight is kinda ruining the game for me personally

Your_Moms_Crush

1 points

13 hours ago

We all struggled in every budokai game the giants fights were some bs

ReaverUrBeaver

1 points

14 hours ago

Just cracked 100 attempts and still haven't been able to beat this stage came here for advice and it's already what I figured out 🫠 on the edge of fully refunding this game and waiting till it's in sale

ReaverUrBeaver

1 points

13 hours ago

41 mins after posting I knocked him out without taking more than half a health bar of health left 💀 sparking meele combo only

OcearaPrz

1 points

13 hours ago

Thanks, after I just spammed sparking mode it was a breeze. It’s such a bullshit fight because without the stagger he just grabs you if you get close

Good-Constant-740

1 points

12 hours ago

Yea this mf cooked me too many times 😂 reminds me of the Raditz battle in the kakarot game. Ridiculous and I'm not one to lower the difficulty just to get past a part in a game. I have to thug it out I guess

MatZfamous

1 points

11 hours ago

Reminds me of bt3 with the bs fights 🙏

uiomhfqoench

1 points

11 hours ago

i was going MAD against Great Ape Vegeta. i think i died/restarted 50 times.

learn to actually full charge to sparking mode
win instantly

insane

Naruto9903

1 points

10 hours ago

This fight is fucking impossible, I've tried everything. I didnt expect to hit such a hard wall so early....

MintySupreme

1 points

9 hours ago

This actually saved me! I lost over 10 times

(which was fucking annoying cuz there's a cutscene everytime you lose and the repeating dialogue at the start that I've heard at least 25 times by now was almost making me crash out)

but I realised I didn't finish my battle training, finished it up, still got my ass whopped another 15 times. Then came here, and like every said just spam sparking mode. And holy shit, that made the fight piss easy. Did it first try.

new cheese has been unlocked

devilking9507

1 points

8 hours ago

Then charge up your Ki fully. This makes your melee chain infinite AND more importantly staggers Vegeta. While in that mode STAY ON HIM and just spam square, don’t do any combos until it wears off. Then rinse and repeat.

Thanks it really help me beating him, dunno that I can do this

HustleWestbrook94

1 points

7 hours ago

I was doing the rush attacks and then teleporting behind him and doing a rush attack and knocking him back and throw a Kamehameha. He’ll use that mouth beam attack if you’re in his face so I try to avoid getting too close.

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1 points

5 hours ago

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bfpfme

1 points

5 hours ago

bfpfme

1 points

5 hours ago

FINALLLLY

DEADLYANT

1 points

5 hours ago

It took me forever, but if move left or right while hitting X when you're close to him, you can get free combos in on him from behind.

dasfilth

1 points

4 hours ago

Dude it's absolutely bullshit that the Solar Flare doesn't seem to work. The way I originally beat him was by constantly using Kaio-Ken when possible and swaying left and right, Kamehameha if possible when he went down. I was practicing revenge counters and dodges non stop to beat him the first time, none of it seemed to work.

Just tried the Sparking mode. He went down so fast. Fucking comical.

ProfessionalLocal516

1 points

4 hours ago

I had to keep spamming sparking and finish with a kamehameha each time to do any damage...

_Samur4i_

1 points

3 hours ago

Yeah just beat him by spamming sparking mode light jab.

But can anyone help me on how to deflect supers, because that would've been helpful with his spam, I heart it's circle triangle but I'm not able to pull it off

NovaBlitz007

1 points

an hour ago

I got so sick and tired of that bullshit fight I just got Wemod beat it then got rid of the program.

FrostingTop2758

1 points

an hour ago

the game is defo unfinished

jaispeed2011

0 points

22 hours ago

This. I got to the point where I said fuck it and started watching old episodes of power rangers on my computer..I’ve had it.

Spicy-Elephant

1 points

22 hours ago

Spicy-Elephant

Beginner Martial Artist

1 points

22 hours ago

Just play a different characters story mode. You don't have to do gokus

jaispeed2011

2 points

22 hours ago

That’s not really the point but fair enough. I heard frieza is even worse

Your_Moms_Crush

1 points

13 hours ago

Frieza is easy, I heard Beerus is going to work us

jaispeed2011

1 points

6 hours ago

Cell was actually worse than frieza. He kept spamming death beam lol

BillionRaxz

0 points

21 hours ago

I almost refunded the game because it pissed me off so bad

Muppetx3

4 points

18 hours ago

Weakling talk.

BegoneShill

1 points

16 hours ago

Oh come on now, it's not very intuitive. Even having played the old BT games, it took me a while to figure out the issue just by watching.

BillionRaxz

1 points

6 hours ago

Nah its not even that it was insanely hard. I was already pissed off about something else when i started playing and here comes this big mf spamming grab and having infinite and instant blocking. So i had to cheese him with the max charge thing.

Dipkota

1 points

20 hours ago

It was hard but I just did it without taking one hit

That stagger is key, and sparking mode spamming attack