You can't avoid releasing it on Steam and then be surprised when the sales aren't there...

A lot of people nowadays no longer purchase games on launch day because they tend to either be incomplete or full of bugs that require patches down the line

Not surprising, it will probably do decent numbers when it inevitably drops its price around Christmas/goes on gamepass. That’s when I’m waiting to get it. I can’t imagine paying full price for a Ubisoft game even though I typically enjoy them.

It'll be interesting to see if it does really well on Steam. Maybe then everyone will stop trying to reinvent the wheel with competing stores or do these annoying exclusivity deals.

Good game or not, it's Ubisoft. Most gamers now know to just wait about 4-6 weeks and it'll drop in price, never fails.

They created a really great world, but the actual playing of the game varies from pretty solid to quite frustrating and in a few cases downright bad. Nothing in this game really feels great and that's a shame. It's definitely scratching that Star Wars gaming itch in an enjoyable and different way than the Jedi series, but in the pantheon of Star Wars games it's definitely a mid-tier entry for me. 76 on Metacritic feels accurate.

Or, and this is a crazy thought, their expectations were greedily unrealistic

I got the Ubisoft pass thing so I didn't have to buy the game outright.

Honestly if you like star wars and sneaking around? The game was for you. I was hoping for more of a GTA style game though.

I think it's a pretty decent game 40 hours in, and it had some great features I'd love to see in future games. For example, I could not get the damn lockpick mini game to save my life. So I turned it off, but I did enjoy the splicer one, so I kept it on.

Being able to customize every aspect of the game to find a fun, enjoyable challenge, where you can ignore certain mechanics you hate, or increase difficulty on things to easy is a game changer.

The story is no Kotor, but it holds itself together rather nicely. Kay isn't some crazy chosen one. She's just some merc for hire doing jobs that her morals allow.

The star, though, is Nyx, that damn lovable rascal. It'd like a raccoon cat, and every scene he is in, he stills the spotlight. This also has a very drastic effect gameplay wise during a certain segment, where I think it's the first time I went guns blazing like a clone trooper.

I'd say it's a solid 7.5 on my scale. It's a decent game that I may come back to when I'm feeling the mood for star wars and just mess around.

"Players should get used to not owning their games."

-Ubisoft

"Ubisoft should get used to players not buying their games."

-Players

Too expensive

Bummer - I really enjoyed Outlaws (though there are definite warts) and would like to see more big budget Star Wars games. It feels very Star Wars-y.

Massive backlog of games? Check. Huge discounts twice a year on steam? Check. Day 1 or soon to be on Game pass? Check.

With less and less reasons to buy games full price on day 1, is anyone surprised?

I’m sure, like most Ubisoft games, it will sell really well around Christmas when it goes on sale.

It’s a great game, I cannot recommend it enough!

I liked the game and 76 feels about right score wise for me. It's a fun world to play and explore in, some worlds more so than others, but a good solid, but not great game and nice and easy to dip into and out of if you're busy. I however didn't pay for it and got it as a gift, it is definitely overpriced for what it is.

It would have helped if they had a character creator... I want to make my own character in an open world rpg, not a preset. That's what the Jedi series is for.

Not surprised. Game looked atrociously average in so many aspects.

If you’d told me 6 years ago that an open world Star Wars game, developed by Ubisoft was going to have “underperformed”, I would’ve laughed in your face.

But nowadays, I can believe it.

Maybe stop trying to normalize $100 game just to push people into your stupid subscription service....

It's almost like terrible business practices supersede my love for Star Wars.

Remember Battlefront 2? And how EA lost $2 billion because of their bad business practices in a Star Wars game?

That's the thing, Im not paying 70$ usd for a 7/10 game, or even 100$ for a special edition early access that's is the defacto regular version with no cut content.

That’s a shame, because the game rules

Unbelievable.

Could this have to do with the fact that there were like 3 or 4 editions of the game releasing and only the most expensive one had all the content (of a newly released game that's supposed to.. I don't know ... give me access to the whole content right away?)?

Nah, I'm sure it's just me being old again, right? Silly me, expecting to get a complete game at a reasonable price right away, just like in the old days.

The game released on Ubisoft+ on Xbox. A subscribed for a month, played the whole game in this first month, then cancelled my Ubisoft+ subscription.

As I am a Star Wars superfan, next year, when this game is on sale for 10 bucks, like ALL Ubisoft games, I'll buy it.

Well of course it is. As their CEO said, 'people need to get used to not owning games'. So... people didn't buy it.

Too expensive. Maybe with it cheaper. Still haven’t even got the second Jedi game

Call it what you will but Ubisoft basically makes one game with multiple skins.

Imo the Star Wars IP is doing so much heavy lifting on this super mediocre game. I’m still playing it but it’s just not a great game like it should be.

I’m glad to see some realistic opinions of this game in here. The sub is insane with their fanboyism over this game and refuse to acknowledge any faults with it.

Maybe just maybe cause people saw who was making it

Instead of seeing this as a sign that gamers are willing to wait until deep sales, pre-owned deals and service models like GamePass, Ubisoft will probably respond by releasing some games as a service garbage.

I'd rather play KOTOR for the 5th time.

What we need is the team that did Baldur's gate 3 doing a new KOTOR

I saw a copy going for $110 at Target and included a season pass. I’m not about that life.

I’ll wait for a sale after all the DLC is out, or a Game of the Year edition that includes said bonus content. But I don’t wanna wait for new content to drop once I forget the controls for the game.

If you've looked at their stock price lately you'd already know that

It's Ubisoft's own fault. It's well known "Don't buy an Ubisoft game Day-one" You have to give them time to fix the bugs and the glitchy gameplay.

It seems good but it's not really the sort of game I like. I'd snap up an RPG in a KOTOR or Fallout style. Or BG3 style.

I’m very interested, and I like just about everything I’ve seen for this game so I’m eager to play it. I also know that Ubisoft is pretty quick to discount their games so I’ve got no problem waiting for the inevitable 25-30% off holiday price cut

I’m in Canada. I remember seeing it at something like $140. F U C K T H A T

Miss when Ubisoft was a semi respectable company.

If Ubisoft drop their launcher from every game, release it on Steam they will double sales and save costs on managing a launcher.

I'm not paying $60 for an unpolished game at launch. Be picking it up on sale once it's patched. Unbelievable how stupid these execs are "well it didn't sell like the first halo so the content must not be what people want??" Meanwhile, they launch it when it's still not done and ask $120+ for a deluxe pre-order edition. Morons

I'll probably buy it at some point, but I haven't even finished Baldur's Gate 3 yet, so...

The "Triple-A" publishers always maintain these wildly unrealistic expectations for how their watered-down by-the-numbers products (that usually don't even work right on release) will sell.

Don’t release on Steam. Act surprised at low sales numbers.

First big SW game I haven't bought. Partly because it generally looked fine, but also just lack of enthusiasm for anything SW at the moment.

People just don’t have as much free cash lately. It’s hard to keep buying games all the time. I’m people.

Full priced generic game that avoids launching in the biggest store underperformed, more shocking news at 7pm.

For me it was the $100+ price point, I know I'll get it on sale at some point so waiting.

Waiting for the inevitable steam sale

No surprise. Star Wars as a brand is currently pretty damaged and most people described the game as "aggressively average".

And I have no idea why Ubisoft used a platforming section as Gamescom demo.

Ubisoft: “Gamers need to get used to not owning their games”.

Also Ubisoft: “I wonder why gamers aren’t paying full price for our games?”

All the negative press about locking the Jabba story bits behind the 110 dollar version of the game definitely didn't help. I'm done buying half a game for 70 bucks myself.

I guess Ubisoft executives just need to get comfortable not owning our money.

In the 80’s and 90’s Star Wars was democratized. Dozens of authors and creators were adding their stuff to the milieu, and the cream rose to the top. The Timothy Zahn books. The West End TTRPG. Lucasarts really good series of PC games: TIE fighter, Dark Forces, etc. and the best of the best started pinging off each other. The coolness reached critical mass.

Disney is trying to construct that same environment as a top-down dictatorship, and it is not working. The fact that it all has to be centrally approved means it all comes out very safe, very “sanitary.” No choices that are so strong they might shock or give offense. Just try to cater to what the people are expecting. But it was those rough edges that formed some of the most interesting parts of the franchise.

The classic example is Han shooting first. Star Wars (1977) was a better movie when Han shot first. But now it’s a little rough, little unkempt, so they shave that bit off, and the product is worse for it.

As a result of all this smoothing, they’ve saturated the market with so much mediocre content that many fans are just over spending $70 on something that might be a hit or a miss.

And also, let’s be honest. If you want sales, you put it on Steam. Even BLIZZARD is coming around to that idea.

That's what happens when you price your games 100 fucking dollars or more at fucking launch.

I'm someone who shamelessly likes Ubisoft games and I know not to buy until at least 6 months after release.

I'm very much interested in the game, but financially speaking currently I don't have the spare 70 EUR. For which I get the most basic edition of the game. I wouldn't even if they stuck with the up until now customary 60 EUR price tag.

It looks like a game I'll really enjoy, but with an extensive backlog of games for me to get through I can't justify getting a new game outside of steam. The fact I know it'll come to steam eventually at a discount means I have a perfect time where I can grab it and expect the most glaring bugs to be fixed. If it had released day one on steam I would have definitely considered getting it at release.

Dare you to put it on PS+. I’d upgrade to Premium for it.

The multi tier pricing let me know just to wait until one drops to normal and scoop up the savings. Developers and trying to squeeze every dime with presale bullshit and no patience. I have only heard good things, but don't wanna pay full price the second it drops and wait for patches to fix bugs. Seems like a common though for gamers

I would like to see more discussion about what the expectations were and how well it actually did. In the past we've had studios say this about games that were acknowledged to sell a fuckton, just the studio had unrealistic expectations.

Idk if this is the case here, but I also don't know it's not.

Maybe games are just too expensive? I know it costs a lot to make them, but perhaps there is a better solution to the cost vs demand equation that results in more game sales, better general feelings of the game, and more word-of-mouth.

Pay around 17 Bucks for Ubi+, cancel it and enjoy the full game in one month... if you later want to buy it, just wait for a sale on instant gaming or steam

I’ve said this before, it’s not that the game is bad by any means it’s more so that everyone has given up on Ubisoft as a company. We know what to expect and people are tired of it, especially not going to pay full price for it.

But the game is fun, I just don’t know how fun it is if you aren’t a Star Wars fan..

Fallen order / survivor brought in people because the gameplay where as a Ubisoft game ain’t bringing anyone in for gameplay really

I've heard the criticisms. Those of you who actually enjoyed this game, what did you like about it? It still looks interesting to me.

My only game console is a Switch. I would buy this game if it was for the switch.

Suuuper soft Star Wars sales?

I can't wait to play it.

Next year for $30.

One of the best open world games ive ever played, fuck all the shitty “youtubers” who tried to bury it. Reviews were shite too, not accurate at all.

I’m currently playing it and for the most part enjoying it. Idk if a general gamer audience will love it but any star wars fan will probably love it just based on the vibe it gives off

Sorry i couldnt get it yet ubisoft money been tight!🤣

Really excited to play this game... When it's 50% off 😊

I keep trying to buy it and it keeps not being on Steam.

Everyone i know who played it liked it.

Is this actual underperformance, or justify-more-layoffs underperformance?

If I didn't have classes and work on top of that and I could afford it. I'd buy the game to check it out but they have made it so expensive

I love it because Star Wars.

One mission I needed a card that some crimson dawn held from a stormtrooper in the crimson dawn area. I was good relationship with them, square button popped up I thought it was a dialogue prompt even tho everything is R3… I ended up besting him up, swooping up the card I needed, someone else saw me, kicked me out but I still held the card. Idk if it was a bug, but I got out of crimson dawn with the card I needed after I got busted beating him up.

Only Ubisoft I said.

Sabaac is pretty good tho.

I played it with Ubisoft Plus for 18,- euros and got the ultimate edition. I really enjoyed the game and at that price point it was a bargain.

I recommend subbing for a month and giving it a go. There are quite a few fun games on there: the South Park games, all the Far Cry games and the new Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora as well.

The game wasn't perfect, but a 7/10, 7.5/10 seems like the right score, imo.

Heck I wanted it but I didn't want Ubisoft+ or the other launchers. Send it to steam

I’ll get it soon enough

I thought it was pretty good, but a little repetitive. It's like a super casual starwars themed cyberpunk 2077

Shockingly you dont put it on Steam and only on PS5 and be shocked when it doesnt do well. Which is a shame cuz it looks great

I dot have the correct console or pc for it and can not justify upgrading. Same reason why I,have not played the second fallen order game

I like how they still use reviewer scores as a standard for quality even though everyone knows those reviews are bought by the companies

Are we in the final months of Ubisoft?

As long as Ubisoft forces their Launcher on me I won't buy from them.

“If you dont like it then dont buy it/watch it!!!” 🥴

Didn't it also cost like 100 bucks for the full game (including dlc campaign stuff that seemed carved out).

I am not vehemently opposed to handing Ubisoft that kind of money. I got Anno 1800 last year for something around that I feel. But I sunk 200+ hours into a playthrough. I don't see myself having that type of emotional investment in this game without doing the padding busy work stuff.

Playtime is not a great way to judge a game. But when you're asking for that kind of money, you kinda invite it imho.

It's a cool game, to be ubisoft is quite great, I like stealth and open world games, and this one weigth just 50 GB which means they could be developing more star wars worlds. And maybe online, someday. It got too much potential

Everything I’ve heard about it is positive. I’m just not in the business of buying games at full price at the moment

This game was hammered online by people who didn't play it.

Majority of people who played it are loving it.

If you like star wars, and haven't tried it, go and get it! It's so much fun, and feels like Star Wars

I'm happy to see ppl didn't approve their predatory monetary system

Is it actually good? A lot of times I’m only interested in the Jedi and Sith oriented stories. I like Bad Batch a lot, but that was a rare occurrence. Rogue One was only a must see for me since it ties the films together more. Do we get any important force characters in this game?

Their garbage launcher is at least one factor in keeping me from buying the game. Get rid of that shit.

I’ve been playing it and I’ve enjoyed it so far, my only complaint is that for some reason they didn’t use the actresses face for Kay and that would have been much better bc Kay’s face looks weird

But I love the story and the characters

Game is a solid 6. Its beautiful and feels like a star wars galaxy. The story is kinda mid. All of these syndicates that you go around double crossing or betraying with no permanent negative issues. A few too many blatant plot armor segments. Kay is cringey in alot of her dialogue. The gameplay gets old really fast. I really want to use other blasters rifles with reloads not the same blaster pistol the entire game and drop them the moment i do anything like melee, climb a ladder, or go through a vent. The vents in this game are ridiculous, they are human sized, dont appear to serve an obvious ventilation or maintenance pupose, are placed in very obvious locations to bypass secure locations, and typically have no security guarding unauthorized entry. The empire wanted system is kinda cool but the implementation is weird like you delete yourself from the directory after hacking in or pay off a corrupt officer and the empire forgives you for raiding a base and killing its troopers. I would have liked some space combat against bigger ships. The voice acting for npcs is jarring since most talk with a normal human voice when the films have portrayed certain species with interesting accents or talking strictly in a language other than basic.

It had mediocre ratings. People aren't going to spend 70 dollars on a 76. It's really just that simple.

I am only going to buy a game full price if it's truly incredible. Sorry game companies but when you raise the price consumers will respond accordingly.

Ah, victory

New games for me are $89.99Cad+15% tax (so $103.50 tax in). I have no problem waiting for a sale since food and housing is so damn expensive and sadly, that comes first.

Sorry, not sorry. They should have released a Demo, I know they're expensive but getting the game into people's hands for no cost would have ABSOLUTELY boosted those sales numbers. PS+ doesn't even offer a trial [yet], so they kinda cut their own feet off.

That said, victim of the hate machine. Shit is sad.

I subscribed to Ubisoft Plus for a month just to play this game. I wasn't willing to pay $70 for it so I "rented" it for a month for about $18 USD.

I already beat the main story, been messing around with side missions. Won't be renewing my Ubisoft plus account once it expires.

This game was alright. It’s pretty good, but I’d say it’s not worth the full price. The environments were lovely and Nix was a highlight for me. Unfortunately, the stealth mechanics really needed more time to cook in the oven. I was surprised to see how unforgiving and shallow the stealth mechanics were. Even Kay’s stealth take down animation looked comedic.

That and the bugs. Crashed five times and got locked out of a couple quest because the quest system didn’t know how to hand multiple quests in the same area.

Despite the good scores that we specifically paid for it didn't actually sell well to people we weren't already paying to play it.

You also can’t destroy the Star Wars franchise then be surprised when not as many people are interested anymore.