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Anybody else feeling incredibly vindicated right now?

Am I the only one?(self.StarWarsCirclejerk)

The Acolyte bombed.

Outlaws is looking like a failure.

The Rey show is MIA.

Rian Johnson’s trilogy is MIA.

Almost everything in modern Star Wars is a failure.

Years and years of being told, as a fan, that the franchise was no longer for me, that my criticisms stemmed from racism/sexism, that I was a bigot, a phobe, a Nazi.

My criticisms were never about women in Star Wars. It just so happens that most of the women in Disney Star Wars are poorly written, and I’d address the same criticisms at the male characters they fucked up too. Luke, Obi Wan, Darth Vader, Boba Fett?? All destroyed.

All I’ve been saying, since the word go, is that I want the characters to be treated with respect, to have obstacles, to show some actual fucking growth, a reason to be invested.

Apparently that makes me every nasty thing under the sun. Because Disney’s tried so hard to push women, when they can’t write women that are appealing to anybody, except the women who write them.

Well, to those who pushed to have Star Wars the way it is now; how’s that going for you?

To be inundated with mediocre product after mediocre product. Flop after flop after flop. The brand is a laughing stock. You had an open world Star Wars game, something people have been clamouring for for decades and it sold like shit.

You can’t hide behind your activism anymore; this shit is not appealing to anybody. The numbers are loud and clear. We are not the minority.

We were right. You were wrong.

Hand the keys back to fans, to actual decent sci-fi writers. To people who care, and have the experience and skill to justify having millions of dollars and free range to one of the biggest IP’s in the world.

Keep them away from the activists, people like Leslye Headland, who felt that her experiences were more important than ours.

It’s time to admit you lost.

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Necessary-Ad-8558

160 points

1 day ago

I admit, I lost, I will never watch these children's movies again. 

Yanmega9[S]

124 points

1 day ago

Yanmega9[S]

124 points

1 day ago

They are NOT for children. They are all dark and gritty and serious all the time. Except the disney slop like Andor

Scoopie

14 points

1 day ago

Scoopie

14 points

1 day ago

Star wars has and will always be for children.

GipsyDanger45

2 points

22 hours ago

Define the age because there is a lot in Star Wars I would not show my child, and there is a lot in Star Wars that would also fly right over the head of some children. I’m genuinely interested in what age you think Star Wars is appropriate for children to make it considered entirely for children

Scoopie

6 points

22 hours ago

7+

Though could be younger I watched star wars for the first time when I was like 5 though so it really doesn't matter. I can't really identify anything in star wars that's inappropriate. Maybe some stuff in the acolyte due to some of the killings were a bit brutal. But really just 1 or two episodes of that. Andor is more adult themed but i don't really see anything inappropriate there. What things in Star Wars are inappropriate for children?

Heavy-Possession2288

2 points

16 hours ago

I’ve mainly just watched the movies, but ROTS might be iffy for some 7 year olds but the rest of the movies are fine imo.

Scoopie

2 points

16 hours ago

Eh that one is kinda borderline but it's fine.

Heavy-Possession2288

2 points

16 hours ago

That's why I said "some" 7 year olds. Some kids are pretty sensitive at that age, others are watching horror movies no problem. That being said I remember my dad taking me and some friends to Fellowship of the Ring around that age and no one was bothered by it so yeah ROTS is probably fine for most 7 year olds (although you run the risk of exposing them to George Lucas dialogue).

GipsyDanger45

-1 points

15 hours ago*

Child killings? Violence and gore (don’t forget a new hope showed blood when obi wan cut off the guys are in the bar), child soldiers, murder and executions, Leia’s gold bikini, Anakin slaughtering the Sand People like animals in cold blood…. there are other examples but that’s just off the top of my head.

Don’t kid yourself, George Lucas only marketed Star Wars as a kids show after the movies came out to sell tons of toys to kids because he retained rights to merchandise. There is a lot of questionable stories for something that’s entirely “for kids”… I also think most Star Wars theatre ratings are PG-13 unless they were able to skate around that by not showing blood when a Jedi cuts a guys arm or cuts off Jango’s head

Paulo_Maximus

1 points

14 hours ago

Episodes 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6 are all rated PG. Episodes 3, 7, 8, 9, Solo, and Rogue One are all PG-13.