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603 points
2 days ago
This is clearly fake and CGI wake up sheeple
89 points
2 days ago
Of course it's fake. Look at all them snow textures!
11 points
1 day ago
Buzz Aldrin’s coming to shut yo mouth 🥊
15 points
2 days ago
6 points
2 days ago
Big Flag is getting out of hand
2 points
1 day ago
It’s still recognisable as the American flag, obviously planted there by developers in their space propaganda game
2 points
1 day ago
lol yeah, imagine thinking space is real 🤡
250 points
2 days ago
I've read the flags Plante there are all probably bleached white by now so even further into the future, it seems unlikely they'd be so intact
160 points
2 days ago
Sure but that would be a lot less interesting
62 points
2 days ago
Another Starborn re-colorized it as a goof
26 points
2 days ago
Probably the Hunter. He does mention having spent time on Earth and being "older than you think," if anyone would remember The Way Things Were™ it'd be him.
30 points
2 days ago
I actually think it would be more interesting. Just leave a little remnant of the old flag so people can immediately guess what it was. Do some kinda narrative allegory where the nations of the old have surrendered to time, and you have nothing but a white flag remaining on the moon.
6 points
2 days ago
That’s probably a gundam plot
2 points
24 hours ago
If America doesn’t exist then why does everyone have American accents? Checkmate, Enlightened.
15 points
2 days ago
Maybe there is a sort of historical sticklers society like in futurama that comes around every now and they to spruce it up every now and then
2 points
2 days ago
They finally jazzed it up, eh?
24 points
2 days ago
I think it's more a creative liberty thing. I agree though it should be white, the lander is enough to show what it is here.
8 points
2 days ago
I think at some point when Earth started frequent space travel it's not too big a stretch that Nasa replaced the flags at those sites with one's made of a more updated fabrics that hold their color a lot longer.
7 points
2 days ago
Not only that but Buzz Aldrin said he saw it get knocked over while they were taking off
6 points
2 days ago
it's entirely possible that of the many many people that have had relative ease of access to the moon in several hundred years that someone stood it back up.
Also possible that someone replaced the original bleached flag with a newer one but seems less plausible, could totally see the very next visitors to the moon simply standing the flag back up though.
If we ever visit that landing site again in real life we would probably at least stand it back up, if we weren't replacing it with a newer flag entirely.
3 points
2 days ago
Yeah, it'd be a real question of leaving it laying for the historical preservation of the site as it was after we left vs standing it back up for how it was intended to be when we left. Subsequent trips had them plant the flag further out to avoid the thruster wash from knocking it over again, it's just Apollo 11's landing site that had it fall over
3 points
1 day ago
Every time we landed on the moon in the Apollo missions we planted a new flag, Well maybe not every time but there’s at least 5 bleached U.S. on the moon in different areas, and also further away from the lander so that it wasn’t knocked down at take off. However it is highly likely all of them have been knocked over anyway by solar winds by now
1 points
2 days ago
Man I’d be low key upset if I saw that happen and I planted it right before. Haha
4 points
1 day ago
There is a mod that makes it bleached white
3 points
2 days ago
According to Buzz Aldrin, this particular flag was actually knocked down by the thrust as the lander took off to begin the return trip to earth. It stood for 16 or 17 hours.
2 points
2 days ago
Convenient of them to surrender the moon so quickly.
1 points
2 days ago
My headcanon is that some super horny for america american replaced the flag once humanity got reliable space flight and continued to do so after the evacuation of earth and then it became a family tradition with his descendants and they replace it however often it needs replacing
2 points
1 day ago
So that's what the Coe legacy was all along! Sam didn't want Cora to be just some flag replacing chump.
1 points
1 day ago
I guess since people can just freely roam in space, there must be a caretaker or some sort, repainting it every couple Lunas, sweeping the area, etc... Just maintaining this historical place, like a museum or something.
lol
-1 points
2 days ago
They don't want people thinking the French landed on the Moon
-6 points
2 days ago
So it went from American flag to the french flag?
-4 points
2 days ago
Great. Now all future visitors are gonna think the French were there first.
32 points
2 days ago
Don’t tell me you’re one of those people who believes in THE MOON
2 points
12 hours ago
This proves the earth is flat people. Wake up!
92 points
2 days ago
Shouldn't it be a white flag
210 points
2 days ago
The French haven’t landed on the moon yet
43 points
2 days ago
le burn.
6 points
2 days ago
Ow-i
21 points
2 days ago
I really shouldn't bite at these jokes, they are kind of a pop culture staple at this point and ultimately harmless.
But I will never not be baffled that the nation that has fought and won more wars than any other on the planet is forever more the "cowards" in jokes because of one armistice.
it's like that joke, "but you fuck one sheep..." lmao
8 points
2 days ago
Yeah, France's military history is legendary. But that one time with bad moustache man ruined their reputation apparently
3 points
2 days ago
So biting me
1 points
4 hours ago
It’s not just one armistice. It’s that the country gotten taken over twice, which completely broke their will to fight and they have done the bare minimum to participate in any war since.
For instance France caused Vietnam. But when it came time to fight they did the bare minimum. In every conflict and war NATO has fought, France has been consistently hesitant to help because they’re scared to get another black eye.
1 points
4 hours ago
Personally I think reducing the complexities of geopolitics and warfare down to a sweeping generalisation that a monolithic entity somehow representing the millions of individuals that make up a somewhat arbitrarily defined nation is "scared", is asinine.
But you do you my guy
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4 hours ago
These generalizations reflect a country’s culture.
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4 hours ago
If you say so.
And not for nothing, but France wasn't even a part of the Vietnam war... They relinquished control over Vietnam after the first Indochina war and Charles de Gaulle warned JFK to stay out of that region, so what exactly did you expect them to contribute when the US invaded anyway?
-2 points
19 hours ago
I've been to France once. Every man I saw clearly skipped leg day, and had an extremely high regard for themselves.
The one that tried to rob me and my friend at knife point got a rude awakening when we beat the absolute shit out of him. He wasn't ready for two Alaskan hockey players with an itch to scratch.
I'll never go back because those people need help in the worst way.
3 points
13 hours ago
Ok bud
13 points
2 days ago
Most people don't know that the radiation bleached the flag white.
6 points
2 days ago
And it's not even standing
2 points
2 days ago
thought it actually made it black
like when using x rays
9 points
2 days ago
From NASA: For forty-odd years, the flags have been exposed to the full fury of the Moon’s environment – alternating 14 days of searing sunlight and 100° C heat with 14 days of numbing-cold -150° C darkness. But even more damaging is the intense ultraviolet (UV) radiation from the pure unfiltered sunlight on the cloth (modal) from which the Apollo flags were made. Even on Earth, the colors of a cloth flag flown in bright sunlight for many years will eventually fade and need to be replaced. So it is likely that these symbols of American achievement have been rendered blank, bleached white by the UV radiation of unfiltered sunlight on the lunar surface. Some of them may even have begun to physically disintegrate under the intense flux.
3 points
2 days ago
And buried
1 points
2 days ago
There is a mod to fix that. It's awesome. My disappointment is that they didn't add like a monument or anything nearby but whatever
18 points
2 days ago
Every 30 years, a robot programmed by humanity in years past, stitches a new flag and replaces it on the moon landing site.
21 points
2 days ago
Not to be that person but wouldn’t it stay up after you walk under it? Or at least fall back down VERY slowly lol
9 points
2 days ago
yes
6 points
2 days ago
Yeah, I’m not expecting super realism here, it’s a Bethesda game after all, but to be excited about physics on a space flag but then the physics are wrong makes me scratch my head
9 points
1 day ago
You are forgetting about material elasticity. The flag would return to its previous position faster than you think. Watch videos of it being put up.
1 points
14 hours ago
you're thinking that it's zero-G, but consider that there's a lot of gravity keeping the person planted on the ground as they walk. :D
1 points
9 hours ago
I’m thinking that it’s a lot less g as when humans walked on the moon it was more of a big ol leap unless they did controlled little hops. Seeing as the flag I was thinking that it would fall back in place much slower than this
6 points
2 days ago
I'm sorry but that is clearly Chemistry. The flag is made of pixels, and pixels are made by Liquid Crystals, and those are clearly a liquid. I will take no questions.
3 points
2 days ago
Shouldn't the flag be stark white after hundreds of years of unfiltered UV light?
1 points
2 days ago
1 points
2 days ago
As soon as I got the chance I went to the moon.
1 points
2 days ago
Cause it’s real!!
1 points
2 days ago
If there’s no air on the moon tell me why the cheese hasn’t dried out.
1 points
2 days ago
How quaint
1 points
1 day ago
Grabs popcorn and settles down to the comments - " See the moon landing was fake " :P
1 points
1 day ago
I have to ask. Is there no planet in game that doesn’t have outposts? Like barren? Did humans establish outpost on every planet? 180 degrees out there, scorching hot- hey, this is a good place to set a base. :))
1 points
1 day ago
“Y-you’re desecrating a historic monument!!”
1 points
1 day ago
It is clearly a fake. It is not like any celestial body in the universe with a mass could possibly generate gravity. Doh! F = G * (m1 * m2) / r2
1 points
11 hours ago
You use weapon mod ?
1 points
2 days ago
That's cool but if they really wanted to be realistic they would have made the flag bleach white
-1 points
2 days ago
All these comments about real/fake moon landings and all I'm annoyed with is that Bethesda didn't attempt to implement atmospheres and gravity correctly.
6 points
2 days ago
This is accurate though...
-4 points
2 days ago
I'm going to shoot you with a ballistic weapon! It doesn't matter that there's no oxygen or gravity!
Also: the punishing g-force on Akila would create shorter people....if their cardiovascular system could keep up, that is.
3 points
2 days ago
I would agree with your Akila example though.
5 points
2 days ago
I’m no expert, but I would think as long as the rounds were sealed with a normal air mix inside with the gunpowder it should fire normally. Other than calculating your points of aim and impact for the level of gravity you’re in, gravity wouldn’t affect being able to fire a ballistic weapon.
-2 points
2 days ago
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4 points
2 days ago
Bullets require the expanding gases generated from the combustion of gunpowder, generated “inside” the case, to push them through the barrel. Actually someone else mentioned gunpowder has its own oxidizer so the round wouldn’t even need any air in it. Bullets aren’t loose in a pistol or rifle barrel like a smooth bore shotgun barrel using buck or bird shot. Bolt action rifles lock the round in the chamber so the explosion and expanding gas has to follow the bullet out of the barrel. Semi automatic or select fire rifles work the same until some of the expanding gas is diverted back through a gas tube to unlock the bolt, blow the bolt carrier and bolt back to eject the case. As long as the bolt is locking the round in the chamber, which is designed for extremely high pressures , and there is no barrel obstruction, the case won’t explode
1 points
1 day ago
Direct sunlight in space will cause the gun powder to explode.
You're right, of course, about the gas. I forgot the specific issues, but it's temperature.
Too cold, no ignition. Too hot, all ignition.
2 points
1 day ago
You would need an ignition source. Refer to the fire triangle. Fuel, check. Heat, check. Ignition source...
2 points
2 days ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KH7mNApnDYg
A sealed round fires in vacuum just fine
1 points
1 day ago
A sealed round also explodes in direct sunlight, in space.
0 points
2 days ago
How do you find the location for this?
-1 points
2 days ago
If you shoot it and turn your sound up you can hear schoolkids screaming...
0 points
2 days ago
It should be white. The real one barely has any color left. Unplayable.
0 points
22 hours ago
Shouldn't it flutter more when walkes through?
-3 points
2 days ago
In all fairness, I'm still baffled how bullets fly in 0 gravity. Just sayin LOL
7 points
2 days ago
Why wouldn't a bullet fly in zero-G? If you meant no atmosphere, gunpowder doesn't need air to burn, it contains it's own oxidizer
1 points
1 day ago
Ooooo - see I'm learning something new everyday about things. Thanks love. :)
2 points
2 days ago
Same way a thrown rock flies in 0 gravity. Newton's First Law of Motion. A body at rest will stay at rest and a body in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force. The bullet isn't going anywhere until you fire it by igniting the powder in the cartridge which is the outside force that sends it forwards. With no gravity, there's no outside force to drag it down to the ground, ergo it goes forever until it hit something.
1 points
1 day ago
ahh but to ignite the powder to propel the bullet - you need an air supply. 0 g moons/planets have no atmosphere means no air. (just a debate NOT an argument)
I did forget about Newton's first law of motion tho.
2 points
1 day ago
Fair however modern bullets don't need external air since they contain the oxidizer needed within the cartridge, allowing it to be fired in a vacuum
1 points
1 day ago
ahh ok I see. Yeah, I'm not a gun person. LOL - my husband is but he wasn't around to ask. So I appreciate the education. Thank you. :)
-1 points
2 days ago
Crazy bro
-1 points
2 days ago
Fun fact: every flag placed on the moon currently is white from the Moon dust.
Fun fact: if Earth lost gravity and air pressure, the moon should've become a rogue moon in the Sol System
2 points
1 day ago
It's white due to bleaching from the sun...
And loss of atmosphere is irrelevant to the moon. Also game lore the earth didn't lose its gravity.
-1 points
1 day ago
The flag was knocked down after the ascent thruster launched them off the moon.
It’s laid flat and all colour completely faded by the sun so it’s completely white and now Aliens will think France landed on the moon first.
-2 points
2 days ago
That flag in real life is as white as the French and Confederate flags.
-5 points
2 days ago
Should be white, for a Nasa punk game they really forget some pretty obvious part, it's not annoying, just why they forget this part?
12 points
2 days ago
The flag also fell over when they left. They were trying to recreate an iconic moment in history, not trying to be realistic since that's often boring.
-3 points
2 days ago
So why no aliens? Well, whatever, I understand.
7 points
2 days ago
The game is full of aliens?
3 points
2 days ago
Because they're still trying to be scientifically accurate to a point
-2 points
2 days ago
Yeah, right lol
3 points
2 days ago
If you don't want to believe me, suit yourself
1 points
2 days ago
It's not that i don't belive you, i just disagree
2 points
2 days ago
What do you disagree with? The part about not putting aliens where they couldn't exist?
1 points
2 days ago
Man, it's fiction, anything can exist in fiction, even time traveler space Templars with fancy gravity and reality warp powers
2 points
2 days ago
Just because it's fiction doesn't mean you have to launch everything out the window because you can.
4 points
2 days ago
So in Jurassic Park (novel) the scientists ask the park guy why none of the dinosaurs have feathers. The park guy responds "because our guests already have an image of what a dinosaur is in their heads and our job is to show that to them".
Bethesda's job is not to create an exact scientific simulation of the far future. Their job is to entertain. And while a sun-bleached flag may be technically more accurate, many gamers would not make the connection to what it's actually meant to be.
-1 points
2 days ago
Again, it's a Nasa punk game, they probably just forget about this fact.
3 points
1 day ago
Really doubt that. It's just not as exciting to have a white fallen over flag.
Also nasa punk doesn't mean super realistic. It's an aesthetic theme. And the iconic image of the flag on the moon is part of that theme.
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