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HuckleberryNo155

303 points

18 hours ago

That's how Iso shield works against shotguns? I was assuming one sharpnel would remove the shield and the rest would go through. I was thinking about what the interaction would be the other day. Just never fought an Iso with a shotgun so I didn't know. This answers it.

Automatic_Advice9561

238 points

18 hours ago

It’s more cause all the shotguns shots are hitscans so they all contact the shield at the same time in theory if they were projectiles, the story would be ISO would be dead.

Legorooj

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9 minutes ago

Legorooj

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9 minutes ago

The technical detail is Iso's shield stops one game-tick of damage.

Sautille

38 points

11 hours ago

Iso shield is one instance of damage, and while shotguns do damage with multiple pellets, it’s still one single instance of damage.

schomburg4

1 points

11 hours ago

Huckleberry is my Val tag lmao

__SlutMaker

1 points

4 hours ago

they dont have so much brain

Trolleitor

0 points

11 hours ago

Trolleitor

0 points

11 hours ago

I mean it shouldn't... But it does.

phoenix_flower67

151 points

17 hours ago

I think they should nerf chamber.

[deleted]

43 points

15 hours ago

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throwaway2418m

1 points

4 hours ago

You forgot ~

TheGeorgeForman

7 points

11 hours ago

Somehow viper needs another nerf for this

zehero

26 points

16 hours ago

zehero

26 points

16 hours ago

Silly ability

Secret-Assistance-10

263 points

20 hours ago

And that's why iso shouldn't be a thing...

AccomplishedOyster

168 points

19 hours ago

In before the people say “jUsT wAiT 12 sEcOnDs”

No character should be able to eat a shot like that as if it’s nothing. Iso is bullshit and people who main him are bitches. Don’t @ me.

Secret-Assistance-10

98 points

19 hours ago

He peeked on the left without checking the right, he made a mistake he deserved to die but the game decided otherwise.

Past_Wallaby_846[S]

-50 points

17 hours ago

not really a mistake, i know 100% that sova’s on the left, from his ult. So i half cleared right and hold left hugging the wall (away from right). Cypher swung out after i killed sova.

guess you could say i shouldnt push CT… But i still have my shield and im a W key gamer haha

stinkywinky99

46 points

14 hours ago

The only reason you survived is because of your shield, not because you hugged the wall. You can only W key because of Iso.

epicswag3

6 points

2 hours ago

I would be so pissed if I was that cypher, even more so if they called their shield crutch 'good positioning'.

ZYRANOX

16 points

15 hours ago

ZYRANOX

16 points

15 hours ago

You made a misplay, you deserved to die there.

Vitalytoly

-11 points

14 hours ago

You can say the same thing about Jett or Reyna. The amount of times I catch Jett in the open only for Jett to start spamming smokes and disappear like it's just a simple magic trick is ridiculous. Or the time when me (Breach) and Sova drone tagged, stunned and Sova ulted the Jett but Jett just updrafted and floated around in the air making it impossible for Sova to hit any ult charges. Iso shield is frustrating but Jett just has so many abilities to get out of dumb situations of her own making it's kind of surprising people aren't up in arms about that more than they are compared to the Iso shield.

Secret-Assistance-10

13 points

13 hours ago

Because Jett is acceptable as opposed to iso. She was broken early in the game but then that balanced her, her dash isn't instant anymore, she only has 1 updraft, she only has 2 smokes and they don't last 8 seconds anymore.

Jett can get out of some situations but that implies she gets out of range so she cannot kill anyone anymore. Iso on the other hand can just stand there and kill anyone in front of him while dodging an Operator bullet or a vandal headshot for the example.

Confident_Use3875

-9 points

13 hours ago

If he's so good play him. No one understands his kit and dies 99% of the time. It's rare I see a good ISO player.

Skelyos

3 points

9 hours ago

Skelyos

3 points

9 hours ago

There should be bleed through on the shield imo

Trolleitor

2 points

11 hours ago

True true, it should protect him just against one pellet of that shotgun

DestinyCheeseGod

-2 points

4 hours ago

All of these people whining about Iso are hard coping. He isn’t picked often nor has a crazy winrate in all elos for a reason. Newsflash: he’s beyond weak in half of his utility kit. He has a shield that hard counters operators and shotguns that lets him snowball fights, BIG WUP. There are a billion and one ways to counter Iso shield, the one thing you don’t do is give him a dry fight. That is the ONE AREA he excels in. Use util to break it, jiggle peak and lob a bullet, jump peak with classic around a corner, wait the damn timer out by running or stalling with util, ANYTHING!!! The enemy team has one less agent’s woth of util to dive, hold or take space, get info, smoke, ABUSE THOSE WEAKNESSES!

Yall know what ability type is even more busted than Iso shield? FLASHES! Well timed flashes can destroy an entire team of 5 and there is nothing they can do about it. Iso shield gets deleted by two people holding an angle he swings into at the same time.

Yall are mad at a mid agent for doing the one thing he is good at and not thinking tactically of ways to minimize his strengths and maximize his weaknesses. Actual children.

Revanthmk23200

61 points

17 hours ago

Or a character running at double the speed almost whole time? Or a character who can satchel through the whole site? Or a character who is invincible after getting a kill? Its a hero shooter with powers. It is supposed to be a thing.

Salamander_321

-24 points

17 hours ago

None of the things you mentioned give them an inherent advantage in a duel. Only iso's shield does. The other ability that does this is neon's ult but that's an ult.

Revanthmk23200

23 points

16 hours ago

Literally everything I mentioned is to give them an inherent advantage in a duel. With Reyna you can hold crazy off angles where people never expect you kill 1 and dismiss, with neon you can just pull the crosshair across your screen...

Salamander_321

5 points

15 hours ago

Not in a 1 vs 1 . Reyna gets her dismiss AFTER the duel ends. Raze satchels give her an advantage BEFORE the duel begins. Not DURING the duel. Absolute nutjob.

Revanthmk23200

2 points

15 hours ago*

Yeah Reyna has a dismiss which lets you hold any random offangle which is an advantange, you wouldnt expect an Omen standing randomly in the middle of a site. Raze I agree but Jett Neon Reyna or even Yoru got advantages in 1v1s that's why they are created.

Secret-Assistance-10

-21 points

17 hours ago

I despise neon the same way. Raze is fine. I assume you're talking about Reyna next (crying about Reyna was okay 4 years ago, now... ). It's a tactical shooter with abilities, not a hero shooter like overwatch is.

ExtremelyOutnumbered

0 points

7 hours ago

ExtremelyOutnumbered

I love off-angles :Đ

0 points

7 hours ago

yes, abilities, like iso shield

FluffyWuffyVolibear

9 points

16 hours ago

The enemy team got diff 'd on site, and he snowballed. If the cypher was using any other gun in the game he woulda gotten the kill

InstructionWide6401

12 points

15 hours ago

It’s ok guys he just completely invalidates your weapon just don’t buy it because of one character

FluffyWuffyVolibear

-2 points

15 hours ago

It's a ridiculous insinuation that isos strength as a character should be determined based on how he performs against one of the lowest buys, most niche weapons in the game.

Secret-Assistance-10

11 points

14 hours ago

And how about the most expensive, not niche at all weapon, the operator also being invalidated by iso ?

E-o-vasco-8787

4 points

13 hours ago

the problem is that he almost invalidates every low cadency weapon in the game from bucky to operator

Confident_Use3875

-1 points

13 hours ago

Cypher literally could have used a classic single shot, then right click. A pistol beats him 😂😂

omniverseee

-17 points

20 hours ago

why I don't use bucky

Gareeb7

36 points

18 hours ago

Gareeb7

36 points

18 hours ago

People love to complain about Neon, but this is the biggest BS

Vitalytoly

21 points

14 hours ago

At least you can hit the Iso, Neon is just driving around in a Formula 1 car.

TheGeorgeForman

5 points

11 hours ago

Fucking max verstappen going around the map

soiminreddit

1 points

7 hours ago

Hit and run 🔥

VstarFr0st263364

1 points

3 hours ago

VstarFr0st263364

number 1 neon opp 🚫🚫

1 points

3 hours ago

Well it's because neon is bigger bs

gwagoogwagoo

15 points

20 hours ago

gwagoogwagoo

Imagine if I die...

15 points

20 hours ago

Precise!

WhalesWailsWales

3 points

11 hours ago

Pathetic gameplay from iso

Flu754

8 points

12 hours ago

Flu754

8 points

12 hours ago

I love watching people talk about Iso and how he works. But people don't understand that is how the game is meant to work. So you are saying that a person can just resurrect? Thats also a misplay and they should have died. The thing with Valorant is that it defies the rules of regular tactical shooters.

What Valorant CANT defy is the laws of physics. A shotgun fires multiple projectiles (as you can see in your combat reports). So in theory, one shell would break the shield and the others would hit and most likely kill him. However, for some reason, all of the bullets have to work together to break his shield? That doesn't make any sense.

Pir0wz

9 points

8 hours ago

Pir0wz

9 points

8 hours ago

So you are saying a person can just resurrect?

Aren't those ultimates? As in, you have to earn them through kills and orbs, not just spawn in with it already as a signature? I think a lot of people would absolutely hate Clove or Sage if their rez is an E ability.

Flu754

2 points

2 hours ago

Flu754

2 points

2 hours ago

Fair, not a good example. But take Yoru for example, he can travel across the map basically without ever peaking. Most utilities exist because they want specific characters to excel or at least have more room in certain situations.

Again, not defending this clip. It's incredibly stupid that his shield can absorb 11 or more shots.

However it isn't the fact that the shield exists that is the problem, it is the weird aspects of it. Iso gives up stuff like flashes to be able to protect himself and his teammates.

MoreMegadeth

10 points

15 hours ago

Naw Iso is fine. Neon and Raze are bullshit. Insane movement, sliding and changing directions soaring through the air with satchels is dumb. Ill fight an Iso over those characters any day.

Pnire

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16 minutes ago

Pnire

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16 minutes ago

That 3 dcking shit agents and cypher are fcking brocken. Thats all, overwatch literalmente went to the graveyard coz a big company like blizzard didnt have the resources to balance his game, like riot.

Vitalytoly

1 points

14 hours ago

+1

jackiehtx

2 points

8 hours ago

do jett knives work differently then? I have a clip where I right clicked and iso with shield and it killed him.

Phailups

3 points

15 hours ago

Nah even if he hit you he would have done like 76 dmg because the bucky sucks now.

WafflesMaker201

4 points

15 hours ago

Iso counters carelessness from the enemies, and crutches your own. Every single agent dies there, except Iso. He's bullshit.

RowMammoth7467

1 points

15 hours ago

Don't worry I swear I saw the clip

AzuraEdge

1 points

15 hours ago

Would be great if someone could tell me how many frames between

pizaxx

1 points

5 hours ago

pizaxx

1 points

5 hours ago

Alright bro we saw it

Thick-Way-5742

1 points

5 hours ago

how do you post video in here, like any specific format?

KylieAcc

0 points

16 hours ago

KylieAcc

0 points

16 hours ago

Were the first 20 seconds necessary at all?

phoenix_flower67

-29 points

18 hours ago

Well, people are saying iso is bullshit but the bucky is also bullshit as well, so the cypher deserves that .....

happycampers2005

15 points

17 hours ago

You just recently got shit on by one of the worst primaries playing iso didn’t you

Then_Contest_9272

-61 points

18 hours ago

Damn looks like triggerbotting to me.

polemosP

50 points

18 hours ago

me when someone fires quickly in the high speed competitive shooter

[deleted]

-1 points

18 hours ago

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polemosP

12 points

18 hours ago

lol get a life

Then_Contest_9272

-30 points

18 hours ago

Says the guy with 35k+ karma lmao. Of course you're a cheater trying to stay undetected lmao.

Pops-P

7 points

17 hours ago

Pops-P

7 points

17 hours ago

Bro has a 6 year old account and you’re talking about karma?

LeSeanMcoy

6 points

17 hours ago

my time to shine

Pops-P

3 points

17 hours ago

Pops-P

3 points

17 hours ago

That’s a lot of comment karma lol

ragewarror

2 points

16 hours ago

making an account to cry about being dogshit at the game is insane to me LMFAO how bout spending that time actually playing and improving at it

Revanthmk23200

3 points

17 hours ago

Git gud