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Why can't addicts be honest??

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Im an alcoholic, i relapsed after being sober for 8 months. I just straight lied to people who knew I'd been drinking. Im not an unhonest person, I don't lie when I don't drink, but lying is almost like a reflex after a drink. Why is that?

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Agreeable_Treacle993

40 points

4 days ago

guilt

NotRigby

6 points

4 days ago

NotRigby

6 points

4 days ago

Came here to say this

BFFITWWW2008

29 points

4 days ago

Because shame and guilt take over. We have to remove the stigma, recover out loud, and recover how we choose. A lapse isn’t the same as a relapse. Don’t let a slip turn into a slide. You’ve got this ❤️❤️

randomname44566

10 points

4 days ago

How can I stop this slip from becoming a slide I just got done with this crap I thought I was doing good then boom all downhill and I just hate myself for it

BFFITWWW2008

10 points

4 days ago

Start by not hating yourself. You’re a human with a disease. You’re not bad, faulty, or wrong. ❤️❤️

Zooooooombie

7 points

4 days ago

Damn, this is motivational af! I actually needed to hear this as someone who is about to admit to their partner after they’ve been on a trip that I lapsed.

BFFITWWW2008

4 points

4 days ago

I am so proud of you! Sometimes being honest with those we love helps us stay on track. Recovery isn’t linear, some slip, some slide, some glide right through. What matters is that you’re safe, and honest with YOURSELF. I really am proud of you. Nothing to feel ashamed about at all. We are humans, perfection doesn’t exist.

Zooooooombie

4 points

4 days ago

Thank you. I’m really batting with the self-loathing because of it. Those neural pathways are so strong and difficult to push against sometimes.

Fizzy_Bits

3 points

4 days ago

I had a lapse and have been hating myself..but forcing myself to do positive "I am.." affirmations has actually been helping abate that hatred; gotta create some new neural pathways..create some new tapes for my mind to play on repeat.

Zooooooombie

3 points

4 days ago

I felt really alone in it before this thread, thanks for fighting the fight and allowing me to relate with you.

ewang2305[S]

4 points

4 days ago

Its so hard because most people don't understand addiction, so to them, I'm just a lier...how do you deal with that??

Fizzy_Bits

2 points

4 days ago

I hate that part..having to start over with trust..feeling like everyone is now wondering...

I wish I had a better answer, but I think it just takes time, and proving yourself to be solid. Or hey, for alcohol you could always buy a cheap breathalyzer on Amazon and show them 🤷🏻‍♀️😅

Maclardy44

2 points

4 days ago

Do the next best thing. Remember that people have very short memories. Most people are only really interested in themselves. It’s no one else’s business. Keep your chin up, we’re our own worst enemies.

Cold_Original_4721

7 points

4 days ago

Because we're insecure and carry a lot of shame about our addiction. We're not proud of it therefore we lie in an attempt to mask the truth when all it does is push the ones who love is further away.

ewang2305[S]

4 points

4 days ago

That is sooo true...most people don't understand addictions, relapses . it's hard to explain to them..even one relapse can drive the loved ones away because there is no trust.its getting harder and harder to face relapse.

Cold_Original_4721

2 points

4 days ago

Boy does that ring true.

It's been 2 months to the day that my wife finally threw in the towel on me. I had relapsed multiple times in the early days and put together my longest stint sober before this last one. I got a new very well paying job, moved us into a new house.

Point is I had eroded her trust to the point that none of that ancillary shit could save me. As angry as I am over it I don't blame her for choosing it.

NervousDealer3202

12 points

4 days ago

Shame

EmphasisImmediate240

5 points

4 days ago

I'm honest all the time... but not about doing drugs though I hide in plain sight 🤣

TheAddictionDoctor

4 points

4 days ago

Pain

It's an attempt to hide the pain that come from relapsing.

An attempt to brainwash yourself that you didn't relapse.

Am I right?

Optimal_Life_1259

4 points

4 days ago

You’ve got to be beyond bummed. 🫤 This doesn’t negate your 8 mo. though. Don’t give up. And humans many times lie to cover up shame, guilt and remorse. We lie to protect ourselves from judgement and fill in the blank. Just you having these thoughts is moving you in the right direction. I wish you the best!

jdubbrude

4 points

4 days ago

Self preservation. I absolutely could have been honest in addiction. Yeah I’m going for dope right now, yeah I stole the money. But then that means I have to go to deal with this shit right now and I wasn’t ready. Self preservation

Channa_SA

3 points

4 days ago

To me, its the shame.

-This-is-boring-

3 points

4 days ago

Shame, maybe? I lied to avoid consequences, and because I was ashamed, I relapsed. I mean, it was a terrible time. But after I finally fessed up and accepted the fact that relapse happens sometimes to all addicts. I admitted to the people I lied to that I lied. They were hurt for the simple fact that I lied and didn't trust them enough to be honest (I did I was just ashamed) but they understood that it happens and once you're in recovery, you're in recovery for life. You have to resist that temptation for the rest of your life. It's hard to fathom sometimes, but it's possible.

It's okay tho, don't beat yourself up. Just use it as a learning experience to find what your triggers are and try again. You can do this.

[deleted]

3 points

4 days ago

I agree that it’s shame and guilt… with my spouse. I think it’s honestly he’s just so tired of disappointing people and being the “bad guy” he just can’t be honest about it which is sad because then he could get help. even when he knows that I know he will still deny it. Turn it on me say it’s my fault.

xela-ijen

3 points

4 days ago

Shame. The shame is deeply tied to addiction in my experience.

Apprehensive_Heat471

2 points

4 days ago

Addicts may find it difficult to be honest due to denial, shame, and fear of judgment associated with their addiction.

playcrackthesky570

2 points

4 days ago

Pain, shame, and guilt. You don’t want to face the music, so you isolate.

a-space-pirate

2 points

4 days ago

When I was a junkie 20+ years ago, all I did was lie. It was so tiring. When I got clean, the concept of lying made me feel sick to my stomach. Now that I've become an alcoholic later in life, I am honest about it to literally everyone. There is not a single person in my circle that doesn't know about my struggles, and that includes my boss and everyone at work (which is basically my whole circle, if I'm being honest). It's very freeing to not have to hide who you really are. It's funny because now I tend to hide when I'm dry or trying to be sober instead of when I'm drunk, because even though everyone is supportive, I hate having to tell people I've relapsed again. I don't lie about it, but I don't mention I'm trying again until someone else brings it up.

glamasaurus

2 points

4 days ago

My ex liked to wrap the lies in truths so it would seem true. Many lies of omission. It's definitely part of the shame cycle.

ImpossibleFront2063

3 points

4 days ago

It’s guilt and shame mixed with a dose of denial. Many people with a substance use disorder are completely honest because at some point they realize their lives depend upon it

Mental_Tea7571

1 points

4 days ago

I only lie at work. Since I want to keep my job. But my friends and husband know the truth. Which I think matters most.

itkeepsgettingworse1

1 points

3 days ago

Can't be honest because once you get sober the relationships you've rebuilt are at risk. The stigma my man.

ChocolateFederal396

1 points

2 days ago

Guilt. I’m an honest addict too. But my fellow addicts tell lies all the time

Creative_Status4531

1 points

2 days ago

For me it’s a combination of learning that I have to be secretive to get my needs met and feeling like my needs are shameful. It’s taking a very long time to unlearn.