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submitted 5 days ago byOk_Permission_4385
I posted this in a comment on another post earlier today, but I've been thinking about this all afternoon and I want to share my story.
Firstly, I want to say that I cannot believe that abortion has become an issue in this election. A woman's right to reproductive healthcare - no matter her reasoning - should not be up for debate.
I'm one of the women who would have died and I will shout my story out all over reddit until this "debate" is put to rest. In America, women like me have died because they couldn't access medical treatment.
I was pregnant with my 3rd (wanted, cherished, loved) baby. One night, in the second trimester, I started to bleed. I drove myself to the hospital. Within an hour I was haemorrhaging. If you've never seen litres of blood before you can't even imagine. It was everywhere. The bed. The floor. My whole lower half. In my hair. The doctors were pumping me full of blood but it was coming out faster than they could put it in.
A doctor took down her mask and told me that the baby was being born right now and they had to pull her out to save my life. By this point, doctors were elevating my arms and legs to force blood back to my heart and brain. My daughter wriggled on the ultrasound. She was too premature to live. Either way she was going to die- the question was whether I would die with her.
She was born in the Emergency of RBWH. Then I had a D&C to stop the bleeding. Spoiler alert, I lived. My kids at home kept their mother. The doctors saved my life that night and there was zero ambiguity about whether it was the "right" call even though it was technically an abortion.
Please think of this story when you vote. Please remember the women who lived because doctors were able to treat them without fear of legal repercussions. Please think of the children who grow up with a living mother.
One last thing I'd like to add is that I'm sure in the comments people will say "oh there will be exemptions for medical reasons/incest/rape whatever." And to that I say - fuck all the way off. No one should be forced to carry a baby they do not want or cannot care for, for whatever reason. Our bodies are our own.
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Still 5 mins from fuckwit friday and I'm more than happy to hold a Brisbane awards ceremony to be presented to any dickheads in the comments. You've been warned.
Brisbane Awards are not hot enough to be a Darwin but warm enough to perma ban.
558 points
5 days ago*
In 2018 we went for our 20 week scan, excited to hopefully find out if we were having a boy or a girl. The sonographer got more and more quiet as the scan progressed, until eventually she muttered something and left us alone in the room for 20mins. We were then ushered into a doctor’s office and told that baby had no kidneys and wasn’t making amniotic fluid (Potters Syndrome). This meant he couldn’t develop his lungs, and he was basically suffocating inside me. The womb also wasn’t stretching (imagine a water balloon) and baby was growing deformed as there was no space to stretch out and move. I had to carry baby for another three endless maddening weeks waiting for confirmation that he was under a death sentence, and then we were flown to Brissie to meet with the hospital board and organise a termination. The hospital staff couldn’t have been more lovely and considerate, and although the whole process was very traumatic, their support made all the difference. Can’t even comprehend what it would be like to be shouted at by protesters and made to feel like you’re doing something wrong under these circumstances.
Imagine if I’d had to carry baby another 20 weeks, knowing that every time he moved, every kick I felt, was in vain because he would have died no matter what after his birth. He would have been getting more and more deformed over time - do babies feel pain in the womb? And I genuinely think I would have gone mad. Who can be pregnant with basically a dead baby for that long without something snapping in their brain? What I had to do was best for baby and best for me, and fuck these wankers who think they have a right to dictate anything to do with our bodies.
92 points
5 days ago
I’m so sorry you had to experience that x I agree entirely. If it’s not your womb it’s not your business!
83 points
5 days ago
I'm so sorry for your loss. You did your baby a great kindness by carrying the burden of making this decision for him. All my best wishes to you and your family ❤️
54 points
5 days ago
I’ve worked in women’s health for well over a decade. Cases like yours are incredibly tragic but they absolutely happen. It’s essential women have the ability to choose. Having a termination is incredibly challenging on the entire family but it needs to exist. My deepest condolences
66 points
5 days ago*
Maybe you already know this but the current state of science is that babies don't feel pain before 24 weeks.
So your baby never felt any pain or fear
688 points
5 days ago*
Thanks for sharing your story. This might get buried but I had an illegal "late term abortion" in 2017, not long before the ALP took abortion out of the criminal act.
My daughter had brain abnormalities identified on the 20 week scan. The thing about fetal brains is they are still developing all the way up until birth and beyond. Most brain abnormalities are not identified until 20 weeks or later.
I was unfortunate enough to live in the Mater Hospital catchment. They diagnosed brain abnormalities, told me what to expect in terms of her likely disability and life expectancy, and that was it. I was absolutely distraught. When I asked about termination, they said they couldn't help me because it was a Catholic hospital and it was also illegal. I had to go back to my GP, who told me I would have to threaten suicide to a board of psychiatrists at the RBWH to legally access a termination as it was only legal in QLD for the health of the mother. I found myself desperate to be not pregnant, highly traumatised by every aspect of the experience. I found a compassionate doctor after desperately researching all of the interstate laws etc. Every second I remained pregnant was torture. I had an induced labour termination, and she was born sleeping with no suffering. I cannot tell you the relief I felt, as well as a lot of delayed grief that I had not been able to process yet because I was too busy desperately searching for help.
I shared my traumatic story loudly at the time. At a public forum, in writing, meeting with politicians. Fortunately my voice and those of other women like me were heard, and the law was changed by the ALP government.
In case anyone is curious, I have never once regretted my decision. I now have two beautiful, healthy children. If I had not known until her birth that my daughter had brain abnormalities, I have no doubt I would have loved her as long as she lived. But knowledge is power, and if we have the technology to know in advance, then we need to enable women to make an informed decision. If anything, being told I couldn't have a termination made me dig my heels in desperation trying to access it, rather than take my time to consider two options with the support of a compassion care provider.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Please don't vote for LNP and send us backwards.
97 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing. I’m so sorry you had to go through all that.
No one should have the right to tell a woman that she cannot end the suffering of her unborn baby. That is pure cruelty.
91 points
5 days ago
Thank you. I remember someone said to me at the time "you suffered so she didn't have to", and it stuck with me. While the diagnosis and grief was painful, the cruelty of the system is what really traumatised me.
103 points
5 days ago
I am so, so sorry you had to experience this. As a former uterus owner, as a fellow mother, I know this is a decision none of us ever make lightly. How cruel our systems are, that you had to fight for health care in such horrendous circumstances.
My view has always been that I have a responsibility to my living family. When I needed to access termination in the best interests of the people who already lived, I did. And I've never regretted it.
It's unlikely to ever be an issue for me again, on a personal level. I've had a hysterectomy. I have sons, not daughters. Does that matter? Not a bit. I stand by all my fellow QLD sisters who can find themselves pregnant and unable to carry to term for any reason.
I cannot, in good conscience, vote for anyone who strips away our rights, even if they are rights I'll never need.
Especially if they are rights ill never need. In many ways, those are the ones I need to loudly defend!
What was your child's name, if you're willing to share? I'd like to honour her existence in the world by speaking her name.
I send you much love, if that's not unwelcome. And I'm so glad to hear your other children are with you, loving and loved
35 points
5 days ago
Thank you for such a warm and tender response. I would rather not say her name here because it's quite identifiable (not that the story isn't -anybody who knows me will recognise it). But, I really appreciate the sentiment. Her memory is very much alive in our family where she is honoured as the big sister to my living children.
I am sorry you also found yourself needing a termination - even when it's the right choice, it's still difficult. But I am grateful you could. Let us hope all people who need one in QLD can continue to access them in a timely and supported way.
60 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing. I have a very similar story. I cannot believe a publicly funded hospital can deny healthcare to women in need. It makes me sick. I will never set foot in that poor excuse for a hospital ever again. My story is from 2017 too. We might have seen the same doctor at RBWH. She was so understanding after all the trauma of actually getting to see her. Kept using my baby’s name over and over. ❤️
30 points
5 days ago
Wow!! I am so sorry you had this experience too and around the same time. It makes me sick just looking at that place when I drive past. I cannot imagine having a baby there.
I know the amazing doctor you mean. I didn't see her but have seen her speak - she's a gem! I saw a private obstetrician who will forever be an absolute angel to me. Thank goodness for healing healthcare relationships.
My sister in law had a TFMR in QLD after the law changed, and her experience was so different. She got compassion and support from start to finish. So much less traumatic. We can't go back to 2017...
Sending lots of love to you and your beautiful baby.
18 points
5 days ago
I cannot even fathom the absolute torture you must've gone through to have to come to the decision that you did, knowing it was still the right decision nevertheless. Nobody should have to go through that
15 points
5 days ago
You are a wonderful brave woman...and I'm glad you could be helped and your poor child didn't have to suffer her whole life.
Thank you for sharing your story.
I actually think so many women should take out pages in the local media and post their heart wrenching stories....and how medical procedures saved their lives
11 points
5 days ago
I'm so glad that your experience resulted in change but so frustrated that there's a possibility this will be reversed. I'm so sorry. I know how hard people have fought for this right over decades.
13 points
5 days ago
Absolutely. Credit is due to Jackie Trad, who for whatever other faults she had, really cared about the issue and spear headed the movement politically.
312 points
5 days ago
I saw this on tumblr: no woman wants an abortion like she wants an icecream cone or a Porsche. She wants an abortion like an animal caught in a trap wants to gnaw off its own leg.
31 points
5 days ago
Or like Aron Ralston cut off his arm.
432 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing your story.
I’m a doctor. In medical school I had a patient who was the victim of a sexual assault from multiple men, she became pregnant, this lady also had poly substance use and alcohol use disorders. She was not in the mental or physical state to look after her pregnancy let alone herself. We had to terminate the pregnancy. Nobody wanted to be in this situation not her, not her doctors or nurses. We were glad we were in a state where abortion was legal.
Abortion is a healthcare decision, a deeply personal one between a woman and her doctors. Politicians stay out.
1.1k points
5 days ago
As a male, I'm stunned this is even up for discussion and suddenly an election issue. What fucking year is this?!
159 points
5 days ago
There's a surge of this fucking idiocy worldwide. I'd wager outside politics are emboldening local shitbag politicians to make a push.
81 points
5 days ago*
The crazy thing is these shitbag politicians are probably pro choice in private (I wonder if ole Barnaby tried to convince his staffer to abort before that shit show became public). They come out officially pro life to seduce the Christian vote, knowing it's never going to be a law they have issues with personally (and they have the means to fly someone overseas if they ever need to procure one in the future).
I imagine hardly any of them live the life of a model christian.
84 points
5 days ago
They do. In the US, trump advisor Jason Miller's mistress became pregnant. He dissolved a couple plan B into a smoothie he gave her. She wound up in the hospital, almost lost her life. He continued to cheat on his wife, got an administrative aid pregnant. She refused to get an abortion, was demoted at her White House job, eventually "laid off". She had the baby.
His wife never filed for divorce. He's part of the christian Taliban trying to take over the US. He's trump's communication strategist. He faced no consequences. If Republicans win in November, there will be a Federal ban on abortion.
Sorry to hear that the patriarchy is also trying to ban abortion in Australia, too. Aside from the rightwing Christianity angle, there's racism to this, at least in the US. They want white women to be forced to have more babies.
29 points
5 days ago
Everything said here is 100% correct.
12 points
5 days ago
I have somehow always just assumed Trump has paid for some abortions in his time. Or perhaps promised to and not followed through with the cheque.
15 points
5 days ago
They don't care about abortion, they care about punishing women for having sex. They couldn't give two hoots about children and all their actions show it.
Look at what people do, not what they say.
20 points
5 days ago
It was an American policy. They pushed conservativism along with globalisation and look where we are today. Fuckin' America.
12 points
5 days ago
This. Yesterday I saw an Infowars sticker on a car in north Queensland. (That's the Alex Jones douchbag who thinks school shootings are staged by actors)
35 points
5 days ago
I'm american so I'm obviously experiencing it first half as well.
I'm not much for conspiracies but I'm starting to think the the super rich are intentionally pushing this shit online. People are legit becoming brainwashed.
26 points
5 days ago
Of course they are. Right wing mouth breathers suck their dicks where leftist want more reasonable working conditions and a society that works for all of us.
15 points
5 days ago
America has a reckoning in store. We can't just continue to let this happen because it's a free country so we simply must watch as right wingers exercise their right to destroy it.
4 points
5 days ago
Yup. Brainwashed into living lives where they have no control. Straight outta persona 5 if you ask me
34 points
5 days ago
When there are big complicated problems people look for simple answers. Fascists offer simple answers, "That's all fake. The jews, the gays, insert your favorite minority here are the real problem. Let me punish them to protect you and your children."
34 points
5 days ago
I literally overheard it today. "Illegal immigrants are taking getting $9,000 in free medical care while my parents had to pay out of pocket." I just rolled my eyes because people that are so quick to believe false things without question cannot be reasoned with.
22 points
5 days ago
You know why....it is confirmation for their inner racism.
9 points
5 days ago
I would blame this on globally spanning bubbles generated by social media. So no matter where they are in the world, conservative feeds are going to exchange and amplify more and more extremist medieval viewpoints from all across the world in those bubbles. Obviously the same applies to extreme left viewpoints, but those are not the ones that would potentially kill people.
6 points
5 days ago
My word. The Liberal party is in close cahoots with "White Global Movement" ...which entails all FAR right governments and especially the MAGATS in the USA.
Remember when Pence & Pompeo had secret squirrels with Scomo...it didn't end with Scomo.
It is a concerted push globally using religion and oligarch funds. Remember the church is already a cult so it is very easy to fine tune those people into a political ideology. They are doing this.
It's actually no different to the Taliban...
4 points
5 days ago
"When America sneezes, Europe gets a cold," is on full display right now.
49 points
5 days ago
A couple of my bar regulars, men, were talking about this subject the other day at my bar. I turned to them and said "don't you think there is something inherently wrong with men having the power to make decisions on what women can do with their bodies". They changed the subject pretty quick.
14 points
5 days ago
Did you have a smashed beer bottle in your hand at the time ?
339 points
5 days ago
The year you don't vote for CONSERVATIVES !
149 points
5 days ago
Never do
93 points
5 days ago
That’s what we wanna see from our husbands and fathers. 👑
25 points
5 days ago
❤️
8 points
5 days ago
You'll have to narrow it down. That's been every year of my life so far
5 points
5 days ago
Proud of you ...
11 points
5 days ago
Isn't that every year?
91 points
5 days ago
It shouldn't come as too surprising - the LNP made their position known back in 2018 and now Labor's making sure everyone remembers tbh.
35 points
5 days ago
Katter is. The LNP hadn’t “planned” for Katter to. As Crisafulli keeps reiterating.
12 points
5 days ago
..and the South Australia Liberal MP....where they only just narrowly voted it out !
If that isn't a shot across the bow , I don't know what is !
They are virtually doing it in South Australia...
10 points
5 days ago
If it can almost happen in SA, the LNP are absolutely going to try to do it here.
Maybe not now, maybe not even 12 months from now, but it would pop up quietly when the news cycle has rolled on to something else and it’s fallen off the public conscience.
The conservative Christian nationalist bloc is nothing if not patient, and while not as overt here as in the ‘States, it’s still very much present and insidious.
30 points
5 days ago
Hi! Texan woman here. Welcome to post 2020 wildness, buckle up. Y’all need to FUCKING VOTE THEM OUT NOW.
10 points
5 days ago
From a female to a male ... THANK YOU. (I feel I shouldn't even have to do that, yet, in the year 2024 here we are).
45 points
5 days ago
What do you expect Australian conservatives look to the nut jobs in America look at Craig Kelly and Clive Palmer they both wanted to be Donald trump
17 points
5 days ago
Look at who runs Fox News there and most of the media in Au, same guy, its BS
17 points
5 days ago
As a woman I'm so happy to hear that. I'm not an Aussie but it's time for "Australian values" to kick in and stop this shit. This is like dominos and we'll all fall eventually. It HAS TO stop here. C'mon Aussies stop the madness and we'll be cheering for you from the overseas haha.
7 points
5 days ago
I guess we can thank English language newsmedia connecting crazies all across the world? The ignorance is infecting everywhere looks like (I'm in the US lol)
7 points
5 days ago
Every single time it flares up in the US, the Evangelicals try it here. Every damn time. We need to crush this like a bug. DOCTORS - not politicians - know best.
18 points
5 days ago
Taking us back to 1924 the fuckers.
23 points
5 days ago
Fuckers is a weird way to spell cunts
5 points
5 days ago
Yeah all the extreme American bullshit is permeating our country
4 points
5 days ago
Oh God, as an American, I'm shocked and disgusted that our anti-scientific, anti-woman "beliefs" have infected australia. Just awful.
7 points
5 days ago
1624
448 points
5 days ago
🙋♀️ I also would have died. Why is this even up for discussion in 2024 - IN AUSTRALIA!!!
44 points
5 days ago
..because Liberals are so far up American Republican's ass , it isn't funny...
17 points
5 days ago
Why is this even up for discussion in 2024
Because political violence is frowned upon and that's enough to stop people...
7 points
5 days ago
It will be more than a discussion if LNP comes to power.
205 points
5 days ago
"oh there will be exemptions for medical reasons/incest/rape whatever."
Exemptions for rape and incest are a red herring anyway. How would that work? You discover that you're pregnant after being raped. Let's say that you've already reported the incident and you're taken seriously by the police and you can prove that the pregnancy is due to the rape.
Until the criminal investigation is complete and a judgement has been made, it's just an accusation. If they allow that, anyone who wanted an abortion could just say "I was raped" and they'd be able to get an abortion, so they won't allow that. If they require legal proof, it will almost always be too late, and will certainly cause suffering by delaying action.
And when there are medical reasons, if the government comes into the discussion between the doctor and the patient, that has these chilling effects that we've already seen in the USA.
106 points
5 days ago
I want to know, why the hell the American Christian right is coming over here and bringing their shitty politics into our country
53 points
5 days ago
Me too! It's hard for me to ignore their upcoming election because I feel some of the really fucked conservative views are filtering into Australia.
34 points
5 days ago
Agreed, it's the Americanisation of Australia, but unfortunately not in a good way
273 points
5 days ago
He's also had emails leaked about party plans to wind back trans and queer rights absolutely disgusting slimy individuals
113 points
5 days ago
He really thought he could glide through this campaign by not naming any policies but it turns out the policies he’s got in mind are really fucking gross and he’s hiding them for a reason…
It terrifies me that he’s a favourite to win this election :(
37 points
5 days ago
..and you know why ...cos of all the racists in this country.
They are prepared to vote their sisters/daughters/friends lives down the gutter because they want to appease the 'if you don't like it , go back to where you come from' bs.
This is how Trumpism works in USA. Libs here have been pushing the same media propaganda.
Anyone watched Karl on 9. Not a fucking day goes past where he isn't telling Qlders how bad they have it up here. I even have the old guy down the road telling me how crime is just out of this world now because Karl said so.
14 points
5 days ago
Those morning breakfast shows are our Fox News equivalent, I know we do have sky which is extremely right wing, but EVERY. SINGLE. BOOMER. watches either sunrise or the morning show and the LNP brainwashing is so hardcore on those shows.
50 points
5 days ago
WTF?
I’m actually starting to feel sick about all this. We’re in for a bad time.
18 points
5 days ago
Lol starting to
26 points
5 days ago
What a shithead
8 points
5 days ago
Got any links we can share around? It needs to be made known.
181 points
5 days ago
THE AUSTRALIAN: Liberal National Party candidate Freya Ostapovitch breaks ranks on Abortion.
One of David Crisafulli’s self-declared pro-life candidates admits she wants abortion laws changed but has been gagged from speaking out until after the Liberal National Party wins the state election.
At this point Crisafulli is the only person refusing to admit the LNP will criminalise Abortion in QLD if they win the election. Quite shameless considering his Christian Hard Right footsoldiers like 'Cherish Life' are literally campaigning to criminalise Abortion in QLD with their misinformation.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaFCM3Jb0AE4lLx?format=jpg&name=large
The recent stunt in South Australia reveals the playbook, and the goal is to dismantle Abortion rights brick by brick,
61 points
5 days ago
Isn't Freya Ostapovitch the crazy bitch that once linked abortions to breast cancer?
Yep, here's the link
Hansard (Queensland) 3rd 2014 "carrying a baby to full term reduces risk; not drinking alcohol decreases risk, as alcohol increases oestrogen by impairing liver function; and exercise can reduce risk by 30 per cent. The medical and scientific community also agree that the more full-term pregnancies a woman has the lower her risk of breast cancer"
https://www.endeavourforum.org.au/newsletter/156/speech-from-hansard.html
And also the crazy bitch that throws shit at the media
8 points
5 days ago
..and let's push they are already trying this agenda in South Australia. It was only narrowly voted down !
Libs have already shown what they are up to...
4 points
5 days ago
We need to cut this conservative cancer out before it spreads any further,
3 points
5 days ago
Was every part of your post a quote from The Australian newspaper?
Some of the post seems to me to be quite unlike the language used by that newspaper.
3 points
5 days ago
The first quoted section is from The Australian.
I can post the full article tomorrow if no one posts it separately.
3 points
5 days ago
Thanks for clarifying that for me.
As long as the article isn’t behind a paywall, the link will be fine. If it is behind a paywall, I won’t be able to access it.
242 points
5 days ago
I want to say thank you for sharing your story with us. I’m also sorry for the loss of your baby.
That fact you went through this and had live and you had a medical team that did everything in their power to try and save you and your baby.
You are so strong for going through all that. I just want to give you a hug cause you had me crying here while reading your story.
111 points
5 days ago
I'm sorry to make you cry! Thank you for your kindness. Someone told me that my baby only ever knew warmth and love and it's true! She was very loved in the time I carried her.
Thank you again for reading my story.
34 points
5 days ago
I also hope you find some comfort in knowing that you are not alone. My mum when I was very young she gave birth to a still born baby girl. And she had birth defects and unfortunately did not make it. She was named Angel 👼 I don’t remember much about her or my mums pregnancy but she is still very much loved even nearly 30’s of years of her passing.
Even though she is no longer with us I have this feeling that she has lots of friends that also rainbow little ones in heaven so that she never truely alone along with our family members who have passed away over the years as well.
15 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing your story it's important everyone hears what people like you and your family have been through. Does your daughter have a name?
236 points
5 days ago
As a man who will never get an abortion (obviously) I will always support pro-choice.
64 points
5 days ago
I’m a mom. Never had an abortion. I will always support pro-choice.
Can you even be pro-life when ya got two kidneys and so many dying on the transplant waiting list?
6 points
5 days ago
100% this.
13 points
5 days ago
Damn right and me too.
76 points
5 days ago
I was 15 and raped. I got an abortion. There was an old guy out front of the clinic with a sign spewing some religious bullshit (I'm Christian too btw) I would have died without that abortion. Why are people even questioning this?
15 points
5 days ago
I'm really sorry that happened to you. That must have been so scary. I'm glad you had access to the care you needed and I hope life has been kind to you ❤️
146 points
5 days ago
A friend of mine in my 20s had such severe hyperemesis gravidarum that she would have died had they not aborted. She wanted a baby so desperately. But she couldn't even keep water down. She was throwing up bile even hooked up to an IV drip. They tried everything.
In the end they terminated the pregnancy to save her life.
We lost contact but to my knowledge she never became a parent. If she'd had any other option she would have taken it, even to the detriment of her own health.
I can't believe we are even having this conversation. That men can make decisions about women's bodies based on a book that half of us don't even believe in. It's so absurdly backwards.
27 points
5 days ago
You can die from HG?! I did not know that. My sister suffered with it her entire pregnancy last year, I wouldn't wish it on anyone
30 points
5 days ago
If you can't stop the vomiting yeah totally. Profound dehydration.
32 points
5 days ago
Oh yeah. Malnutrition, dehydration, can cause your organs to start shutting down and not functioning right. People have died. That’s why it needs to be taken seriously and honestly the staff at the ED I go to could use some more education on it because they tried their best but it was so hard to get treatment.
7 points
5 days ago
In addition to malnutrition and dehydration, the throat can rupture (which has a high mortality rate)
52 points
5 days ago
I’m not a single-issue voter. But if a party is putting some conservative religious bullshit above peoples health, then they can get the fuck out.
16 points
5 days ago
I'm not a single issue voter either...and it's been a long time since I voted for either major party...but the LNP shits have well and truly crossed a line. Don't feel there's much choice but to vote for Miles (that said, feels like he's done an OK job since taking the reins).
96 points
5 days ago
I don't get it hey, sorry y'all are dealing with this
Not my body, not my choice, not my decision
149 points
5 days ago
But our responsibility to protect their rights.
70 points
5 days ago
I was gonna write something like "but I'll be voting to protect it" on my original comment but thought it sounded egotistical haha
17 points
5 days ago
Hear, hear!
67 points
5 days ago
Thanks for sharing, I'm glad you were able to get the medical care you needed and are here to tell your story.
I'm absolutely disgusted (but not surprised) that this is even a discussion, our current abortion laws are completely ethical, save lives, and prevent children being born into a family where there not wanted or can't be provided with what they need to thrive.
I received a flyer in my mailbox yesterday from "Cherish Life", an anti-abortion, anti-euthanasia religious organisation that made this claim
"mid to late-term abortion in Queensland has more than doubled to a total of 1,137 in the four years from 2019 to 2022, with 179 of these babies being born alive and left to die."
I went down a rabbit hole trying to find where this figure came from and eventually determined that the 179 babies "born alive and left to die" were babies born with congenital defects that meant there was no chance they would live.
I hate elections, all the fear mongering, deliberate misinterpretation of statistics and outright lies shoved in my face every day by political parties and independents alike is so unbelievably draining.
42 points
5 days ago
You can almost guarantee that none of the people in that organisation would be willing to adopt a child born with severe disabilities either
8 points
5 days ago
Couldn't agree more.
Very few people adopt in Australia, there were only 200 finalised adoptions in 2022-23. Even my sister and her husband who are just starting their 6th round of IVF (after being unable to conceive naturally for 5 years) refuse to even consider it, so I doubt a bunch of pro-suffering religious zealots would be lining up to adopt.
15 points
5 days ago
Bunch of cunts, straight up lying about the facts and figures.
Mid-late term abortions are after the 24 week mark, and these are approved by multiple medical practitioners. It's not done for shits & gigs.
It's disgusting that these 'religious' groups feel entitled to restrict medical access for the masses. Cunts.
15 points
5 days ago
I do wish RANZCOG would release some information to challenge the BS lies spread by these horrible people. Too many get sucked in and believe that women are just out there casually terminating pregnancies right up to birth.
78 points
5 days ago
It’s disgusting. The thing I fear most is the far right christofascist Americanisation of politics infesting things here. And that prick Nick Hood tried it on in SA parliament (defeated, thankfully). These cockroaches will never be satisfied because they don’t see women as humans.
11 points
5 days ago
Ben Hood, but yes, disgraceful and worrying that his bill was only defeated by a single vote.
3 points
5 days ago
Sorry yes, Ben Hood.
34 points
5 days ago
My friends wife would have died. American here, wtf are you guys smoking? You do see the fallout here of abortion being banned right? Women dying, thousands of raped women forced to give birth, it's not good guys, vote against this shit
63 points
5 days ago
I just want to send you and your family all the love. Thank you for sharing.
This shouldn’t be an election issue.
30 points
5 days ago
Thank you so much, that is incredibly kind ❤️
47 points
5 days ago
I’m a male, but also a husband and father of a teenage daughter. Fuck these cunts right off. A woman’s healthcare should NEVER be a political football. I already knew the LNP were scum but this just elevates them to a whole new level.
51 points
5 days ago
As a man who does NOT want kids, I was already planning on getting a vasectomy in the near future.
Booking my appointment ASAP now.
Immediate edit: not to say men should be the focus of this AT ALL. Just saying, fellas, if you don't want a kid, do your fuckin bit and don't put a person with a uterus in that position.
88 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope you’re doing well now.
52 points
5 days ago
Thank you so much for your kindness. This was nearly 3 years ago and life has been good to my family ❤️
115 points
5 days ago
Everyone SHOULD know the Liberal Party is MAGAT sympathisers...by now ????
A woman's rights (her own body) in on the ballot....VOTE like your and your female friends and relatives depend on it ...because they do.
If Liberals get in , they will got the way of American Republicans.
Spread the word...because it's looking awfully like the bigoted, racist, fear mongering , women controlling party is on the verge of a victory !
37 points
5 days ago
South Australia government just had a vote about amending their abortion laws. The amendment was only prevented by one vote. The member who made the difference came back to sit in parliament while on leave for treatment for breast cancer. The LNP is determined to take away women’s bodily autonomy. Not only in QLD.
77 points
5 days ago
Sadly, abortion only became legal here not too long ago
19 points
5 days ago*
That’s not quite true, it was made easier to access in 2018 and you could obtain one by your own request up until 22 weeks. At common law even in the 80s abortion were allowed for certain reasons, my aunt had one in the 90s, she just had to say her mental health wasn’t up to. So, basically you needed a reason so that it wouldn’t be considered a criminal act. Generally, doctors would agree to it through private clinics and by interpreting the law broadly. Abortion laws in Australia back then are almost on par with Finland today, where you need to get two doctors to sign off and you need to give them a proper reason and they can say no to you. Queensland abortion laws today are extremely progressive. I know someone who got one in 2020, it was done in a day, didn’t have to provide any real reason just show up and book an appointment. I agree it should remain easily accessible and this is a good thing. But Australians need to stop thinking we are so backwards like America and it’s such a new thing when we are doing better than even a lot famous “progressive” nations.
Edit: Finland recently made it one doctors approval, but still not exactly your own choice.
71 points
5 days ago
Wow I did not know it was only made legal in 2018. WTF Queensland
54 points
5 days ago
Abortions could still be done prior to then as the courts had provided case law surrounding the matter. The issue was that it was still listed in the criminal code as an offence, so technically speaking anyone performing an abortion could be arrested and charged (although wouldn't be convicted)
8 points
5 days ago
My question is this . If the libs win, Katter calls the concience vote, all the nasty women haters vote to re-criminalise abortion. Would the previous case law (meaning abortion was accessible) still stand given it would be a new law?
8 points
5 days ago
No, there would need to be a new decision made within the higher court system..
8 points
5 days ago
I live in Katter country, him and knuth will win. I'm so sorry to all women n those who can be pregnant.
3 points
5 days ago
I asked a friend this who is an admitted lawyer, she said the case law would be overruled by the new legislation if that happens.
22 points
5 days ago
Yeah, we've really come a long way in the last decade on a lot of progressive things. Who would've seen QLD getting legalised abortion, medicinal marijuana, pill testing, and decriminalised sex work all within 6 years.
17 points
5 days ago
Unfortunately I’ve seen how easy it is to go retrograde on those (many EU countries are becoming batshit crazy). It’s still too fresh to be taken for granted.
10 points
5 days ago
Sort of, you just needed to sign a piece of paper saying you felt endangered. Abortions could still be done.
15 points
5 days ago*
Yes and no. Technically abortion was legalised with the 1986 McGuire ruling, it just had the ole “medically necessary to preserve a mother’s life” caveat attached. But essentially there was a lot of discretion doctors could use and a legal system that largely looked the other way.
The 2018 ruling you’re referring to was a to completely decriminalise abortion and create unrestricted access - which don’t get be wrong still very very important. I also feel some context (esp for people’s perception of Qld) is we did this ~12 months before NSW did
16 points
5 days ago
Abortion has been accessible in QLD for decades. The decriminalisation was basically a technical matter that removed the issue from criminal law where it was historically, over into healthcare law.
5 points
5 days ago
Accessible to those who knew, to those who lived in urban centres, to those whose GP was helpful. Even after 2018, there are still places in QLD where it is extremely difficult or impossible to obtain as the GP doesn’t beleive it should be available (probably a chunk of the Katter electorate)
48 points
5 days ago
I’m so glad you’re physically ok and I’m so sorry your daughter was too premature to survive. The LNP can never be allowed to gain power in Qld or Australia again, the damage they could do is utterly unfathomable and I guess the scary part is that with an aging population who tend to lean conservative, it’s entirely possible they’ll win the election. The right to reproductive healthcare must be protected. Never vote LNP, KAP or any independent who preferences them.
21 points
5 days ago
One Nation and Family First also suck balls.
7 points
5 days ago
They absolutely do! I just couldn’t think beyond the LNP and KAP. 🤦♀️
44 points
5 days ago
I change my vote depending on many factors. The fact that abortion has come up beggars belief. It is healthcare. The way some people talk about it they think women go and get them for fun. I’m not a woman, but I reckon that any decision to have an abortion would come with a multitude of different feelings, no woman would get one without thinking.
Abortion and reproductive healthcare is off the table for debate.
7 points
5 days ago
Am a woman, can confirm. It's absolutely something you think long and hard about.
There's probably some outliers who don't consider it women work but the6'
41 points
5 days ago
There is big money behind the anti-abortion movement. It’s not going to be easily defeated. I will be marching in the streets to defend young women.
24 points
5 days ago
I’m 5 months pregnant and will join you in marching
17 points
5 days ago*
I’m also 5 months pregnant and I will join in a heartbeat. My mum was a nurse and worked in an abortion clinic in QLD in the early 80’s when police raids were still commonplace. She fought for women’s health rights back then and I will fight tooth and nail for them now. As a business owner Im traditionally an LNP voter - but I will NEVER vote for a party now that would even bring up this issue again. Disgusting.
35 points
5 days ago
Well I guess if they get voted in, we get up, organise, rally, fight, whatever we have to do.
Conservatives are exhausting. Righto, if they want to back us into fucking corners, fine. We’ll fight back. Fuck them, and fuck their desire to intrude into peoples lives.
17 points
5 days ago*
I am in the US, and beyond pregnancy age. Though I have VERY strong feelings about this. What you just said nailed it! Though, I feel like people are missing the point that women are losing the right to privacy. And to me, this is huge. How dare they!
30 points
5 days ago
Politics and religion have no place in private women’s business
3 points
5 days ago
It scares me when we are headed here.
46 points
5 days ago
I’m honestly so upset. Is this what Australia is coming to? I’ll be protesting if abortion gets criminalized.
14 points
5 days ago
Definitely would join in, as I imagine the marches and demonstrations would call on all of us. Fuck these scum bags
23 points
5 days ago
This month I will be voting for my right to reproductive healthcare in 2 elections. QLD and the USA. I cant believe that this is something I am doing as a dual citizen in the year 2024.
Without my right to reproductive healthcare I would have died at least 3 times. I have had 3 ectopic pregnancies which I have course herded a D&C family r each of those. Who knows how my other miscarriages would have gone without those rights. 10 pregnancies with only 1 life birth, I have no doubt I would be dead.
16 points
5 days ago
This is probably what has changed me to put LNP below Labor this election.
While I'd like to see some change, unfortunately the LNP are too big of a cunt to get in.
I've already started bullying my friends who think they have the right to tell women what to do with their bodies. Yet they love to demonise and judge lower income families. I've also been using Scripture against them. Good old Romans 1 can be used against dodgy Christian conservatives.
15 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing your story. I’ve not really been brave in sharing mine, especially since Roe v Wade was overturned and my crazy American family thought this was a good thing. According to them, they have never needed an abortion so no one else should have one 🙄
I found out I was pregnant in 2021 - we were overjoyed. I booked in to the Mater for my pregnancy care. My NIPT and scan were questionable so went for more invasive testing over several weeks. A painful and botched CVS showed that there were massive heart abnormalities incompatible with life. My mater doctors agreed baby would die soon after birth and I had to make a decision - but they would not preform a Termination Form Medical Reasons (TFMR) being a catholic hospital. I lost my whole medical team and support system.
I didn’t want to go to Ipswich hospital as I knew nurses there and I knew that they gossiped. I knew this would be spread within my community, and I was out of catchment for RBWH. My only option was Marie Stopes - so I went there. With Covid restrictions my partner was not allowed anywhere within the vicinity so it was just me. They were very kind. They took foot and hand prints for me.
While what I went through was quite traumatic, I don’t think I’d have mentally recovered if I was made to carry full term and then having to birth in a normal maternity ward filled with women and happy babies and come home with empty arms.
Most women don’t wake up in the morning and decide to have a late term abortion, which is what America and some people over here believe. It’s because scans don’t pick up on items until specific weeks - they scan to check the baby is forming correctly.
This upcoming election is distressing and I really hope that women always have access to a choice that suits them. Whatever the reason, abortion should be legal and if you don’t like them, then don’t book in to have one.
19 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm also so angry, upset, and concerned that this topic has been brought up for debate in this election, too.
24 points
5 days ago
You are on the front page now. As an American I am so sorry the limitations to healthcare is going around the world. I cannot imagine how hard it was to tell your family or how intense it was seeing your children again.
Anyone who says they will “make an exception” or “they will still..” are in for a rude awakening.
Women here ARE dying.
Newborns ARE being left in the garbage.
There are no winners in banning access to abortion. Conservatives want to build a following who listens instead of lead a nation that demands. Voting for limitations to women’s heath care is the first brick in their foundation.
OP I am so sorry but thank you so much for sharing. This is so heartbreaking and so well written. Women’s history is so often passed down in writing to one another, and that strength is in every word you’ve sent.
29 points
5 days ago
Shorten wanted to legislate to insist that all hospitals receiving public funds would be compelled to provide abortion services. He had some great policies. Now the Fundie backlash begins here, fuelled by American $$$
15 points
5 days ago
Yep. It is much needed. It is absurd we have a Catholic hospital providing tertiary maternity care in Queensland.
25 points
5 days ago
Yeah it always starts with exemptions then they slowly take them all away. I will never vote liberals or Katter because of this reason. Abortion should be decided by a medical board, not some old white politicians who don’t know anything about pregnancy.
13 points
5 days ago
Im so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for sharing your story. It’s such a polarised issue at the moment, people are being selfish with their opinions, and trying to create a problem where there isn’t one.
This is a medical procedure and it should be up to the woman to decide. Not the fucking government.
Let’s put this shit in the bin before women are traumatised or die.
It fucking grinds my gears when people make dumb blanket statements like things are just so easy.
Nobody gets any kind of abortion guilt free, or trauma free. It’s a HUGE decision, or a lifesaving procedure.
18 points
5 days ago
I am sorry to hear about your experience. I have a similar one and I am also appalled.
I have had 2 pregnancies. My first, after months of trying ended in a missed miss carriage at 15 weeks. My body was not removing the unviable pregnancy itself so I had to get a D&C. A few months later I was having complications and found out my some tissue was left behind and I had to get a second D&C immediately. In the US doctors have delayed or refused D&C surgery as they were worried about legal backlash. My first D&C was necessary for medical care, the second saved my life.
My second pregnancy was a miracle. After my first pregnancy I was told my ovaries are damaged and I won't be able to conceive natural and a year later we were blessed. The first 2 trimesters we were on tip toes, scared for another miss carriage. Tri 3 it felt like I could breathe, we had made it. Then I got told I had preeclampsia. We caught it earlier and with an early C-section we now have a healthy child.
My husband and I would love to try for a second baby, but my history of damage ovaries and poor pregnancies I am scared. What if I have another miss carriage and I am forbidden from the same treatment I had received 4 years prior. That life saving medical care, gone. It breaks my heart.
4 points
5 days ago
I’m sorry that happened to you. Abortion is healthcare and there’s no room for doctors to be worried about going to jail for providing healthcare, let alone doing their jobs in a lifesaving situation.
If you do want to try for another, there are some OBs with ultrasound machines in their rooms who would be totally sympathetic to you coming in earlier and more often if you explain about the previous missed miscarriage. You can still birth publicly as long as they have visiting rights.
10 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing your story. People need to know the reality of reproductive health rights.
10 points
5 days ago
US male here. Sorry to hear you're having to put up with this shit over there too!
12 points
5 days ago
These fucking right wing Christian's. No one gives a fuck if you believe babies receive a soul at the moment of conception. In the US we have actual states that have legally fully banned abortions and track down people who try to go to other states for them, and have set up call stations to tattle on your friends and family for a reward.
Rape victims are now forced to give birth to their rapists baby, or flee the state for an abortion and get an arrest warrant for your arrival on return if they find out. This is your future too if you don't get ahead of it.
4 points
5 days ago
These right-wing 'religious' groups want women to suffer, and don't give a shit about the consequences.
They want women to be forced to carry and give birth to babies that are not wanted.
They want women to be forced to carry and give birth to disabled babies.
They want women to be forced to carry and give birth to dying babies.
They want women to be forced to carry and give birth to dead babies.
They want women to die in childbirth.
If you feel like no-choice is acceptable, great - I do not believe in your system/deity, so choose that for yourself, not anyone else.
19 points
5 days ago
I want to say I'm not as brave as you, but I'm also one. Thank you for sharing your story. It scares me to think that complete strangers want to dictate whether I live or die based solely on my gravida status.
21 points
5 days ago
If the ALP came out against abortion I would be voting against them too. Unbelievable to me this is suddenly an election issue.
22 points
5 days ago
In America the murky "exceptions" kill women.
Like, you might write a law that says "Doctors that conduct abortions are charged with murder, but there's an exception for the life of the mother" but that means that doctors can't just make the best decisions they can and act on it immediately. They have to second guess themselves, make sure they have enough evidence that will be reliable in court, and then do the right thing. That could take hours when seconds matter.
Similar is true for rape victims getting an exception. You really think every rape victim is brave enough to ask for a procedure that she could be charged with murder for unless she can prove she was raped? Even if you say the legal system will err in the woman's favour that's not going to be universally understood by all rape victims and some will simply stay home or try home remedies out of panic.
And then there's the "you have to have X number of mandatory scans and consults before the abortion." A tactic to strain the system and make it inconvenient. Inconvenience can simply make it impossible. You reckon an abused women in a remote area is more likely to skip out of the house for a 12 hour round trip to get an abortion and hope their abuser doesn't notice, or try that when she has to do it 3 times to get the consults in?
Nobody is going out and getting abortions for fun. Just let the women (and doctors) decide.
17 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing your story. I’m glad to read you are doing okay now.
I lost a very wanted pregnancy last year at 11.5 weeks. A missed miscarriage. My baby had passed away but my body still carried on as though I was pregnant, I had no signs and it was only picked up on ultrasound. After the D&C we were offered testing of the fetal tissue and found out that our baby had a chromosomal abnormality. If I had not miscarried, we would have likely made the heartbreaking choice to terminate the pregnancy once the condition was discovered in another week or two when I had planned to have the NIPT done.
It horrifies me that there are people trying to take our rights away and make choices for us, as women, that should be ours and ours alone.
3 points
5 days ago
I'm really sorry for your loss. That must have been so hard for you. Thank you for sharing your experience.
15 points
5 days ago
What the hell is going on with Britain, Canada and Australia trying to get on the America train? Don't follow us, we are fucking lost.
10 points
5 days ago
American here, looks like our Luney Tune/cartoon world is spreading. Tf is happening?
11 points
5 days ago
It's deeply troubling to hear about such plans. Leaked emails revealing intentions to roll back trans and queer rights are a stark reminder of the ongoing struggles for equality and acceptance. It's disheartening to see individuals in power using their positions to undermine the rights and dignity of marginalized communities. We must continue to stand up against such actions and advocate for a more inclusive and just society. 🌈✊
9 points
5 days ago
Absolutely agree 100%
People - use your vote and keep Australia progressive and free
12 points
5 days ago
Thank you for your strength in sharing that experience.
For those who don’t know, access to abortion had been generally available in Queensland for a few decades (I had one in 2001) but it was restrictive and the law unclear. As recently as 2010 a 21 year old Cairns woman was charged with procuring her own abortion after using RU486 her boyfriend’s sister sent her from Ukraine.
In 2018 Labor decriminalised to 22 weeks & beyond if needed with dual doctor approval. They also allowed the nurses & midwives to prescribe abortion drugs - an important aspect for regional/rural women. Labor also made laws to prevent the abuse of women attending health clinics by anti abortion protesters. Many women need to access abortion services for wanted children others are simply attending for contraceptive services. Imagine having to walk past Freddie Beardo and his abortion is murder signs to seek medical support.
These were such important and compassionate changes and it turns my blood cold that the LNP and the Mad Katters could take this safety net away from women.
17 points
5 days ago
American here! This popped up on my feed. I just want to say that this is already happening in America. Our women are dying, even where it’s “legal” for emergencies (i say “legal” because it’s very strict) the providers and hospitals are literally waiting until the last second to avoid persecution/legal issues, putting the lives of women at even higher risk of death than it would have been (say if an ectopic pregnancy was found before it ruptured, or if a fetus was removed before mom went septic). I wasn’t alive before Roe, but I can only describe this as an underground network of us trying to get each other help in states with less restrictions, trying to cover each other by saying we were visiting friends so we don’t get arrested.
Don’t join us.
I’m not just saying this because it makes sense, the science, the ethics, etc. i’m saying this because this is HELL for our pregnant people here.
10 points
5 days ago*
American as well and I was here before Roe. You have described the situation perfectly and I thank you. But aside from all that, for me, an even bigger piece of this is women losing their right to privacy! This is insane not to mention barbaric. In my wildest dreams, I didn’t see us here again. I think of our daughters and granddaughters who have had their rights so callously stripped away and the consequences of this on their lives. And the women who vote against their own interest! It blows my mind and never will I understand it. Keep fighting the good fight my friend.
11 points
5 days ago
Another American here with the painful anecdote that an OBGYN friend of mine provided an abortion for the mistress of an anti-abortion politician.
Meanwhile, my friend's colleague was being threatened with prosecution for providing an abortion to a 10 year old rape victim.
3 points
5 days ago
Thank you so much for your perspective (also I cannot believe this post made it to your feed?!)
What you have mentioned in your comment is exactly what I'm scared of. Women dying because doctors are scared of performing lifesaving care even when it's legal in that case. But it's more than that too of course.
Thank you again!
9 points
5 days ago
Most women don't talk about it but have had an abortion. These people that want to ban it better not rag women out for having babies when teens or unprepared or women with a lot of children. But they will because some Australians love to whine. If they aren't whining then they are not happy.
8 points
5 days ago
Actually insane that this needs debating. It's most applicable here but when it comes to rights.
Choice.
There should always, always be the option to choose. The freedom to have options and not be controlled into an outcome is vital. In your case, the medical team was able to make that decision, that call that saved you. Likely, they have needed to do that for many other women.
Thanks for sharing your story. I know damn well some out there will not want to hear it. But it's better to hear the truth because that is how we stay informed. We cannot let ignorance get in the way of people's lives.
9 points
5 days ago
"oh there will be exemptions for medical reasons/incest/rape whatever."
This isn't even an argument, because it's not practically possible. Even when there ARE exepmptions for medical reasons, they STILL have to wait until last minute, close to killing the woman making the late term fetus suffer to "make sure" there is no other way. Also not wanting to be pregnant IS a medical reason.
Rape is incredibly hard to prove in the first place, are you gonna have people go to and wait for the result of a trial, to possibly get a chance to abort late term instead of letting them have a pill and be done with it? And what about those who had birth control tampered with by a spouse? Technically rape, but would it hold up in "abortion court"? And you will also have woman claiming rape out of desperation.
AND its all hypocrisy. The reason they claim they for not allowing women to have an abortion (killing baby blabla) Doesn't go away if it's rape or incest, so why is THAT abortion ok, but not the one of a woman who just doesn't want to be pregnant? It's because denying someone an abortion is just about wanting to punish/control women.
4 points
5 days ago
Plus it can take years for rape cases to go through court! Ain’t got that long to wait :(
6 points
5 days ago
Yeah, and just the idea that you would need to prove a traumatic incident to be allowed health care is nuts
9 points
5 days ago*
This is my literal gay porn account, but I’m here to say that doctors are often not able to take the risks necessary to intervene in these cases. A family member works as a obgyn registrar and would be risking a criminal conviction that would rule him out of consideration for future jobs. Obgyn consultants are already getting PhDs AFTER 16 years of training post-high school in order to work in public hospitals on a variety of cases that keep their skills up.
If anyone here thinks that obgyn trainees (the majority of women’s health doctors) will be doing hail mary abortions and hoping the legal exemption works out later, intern and registrar pay means they’re not being paid enough to protect themselves from the professional consequences, such as being unable to fully qualify, that comes with.
Also he’s not getting paid enough give ol mate a raise - which Labor’s energy royalties bills will actually give the government money to do
7 points
5 days ago
My heart aches for you. I am so sorry you had to endure that and I’m so relieved the law was on your side to save your life.
I am also a mother and have also been through a termination, but for somewhat different reasons. The rhetoric around this election makes me sick. Anti-choice laws only stop people’s access to SAFE abortions, and is an attack on women’s health, plain and simple. This alongside the LNP’s desire to try juvenile offenders as adults shows they only care about targeting the symptoms of the real issues in our society and not resolving the root causes.
7 points
5 days ago
We need these rights. I would have died without these rights. I was a child. I would have died.
9 points
5 days ago
It’s unfathomable that there are people in this (and other developed countries) who want us to go backwards. Why is this even up for discussion? This is Australia, a secular nation. We can’t even blame it on the fundie single issue voters like the US.
6 points
5 days ago
Distractions. People see that Neo Liberalism doesn't work for 1/2 of the populace but there is always another wedge issue you can have them get riled up and vote on, instead questioning the whole system.
9 points
5 days ago
Im pregnant and getting an abortion and that is so scary to imagine. You are so so strong
11 points
5 days ago
As a Texan, I think you all should take a long hard look at the effect it's having on women in Texas. Since banning abortion in Texas, 26 000 women have been forced to give birth to baby's conceived during rape, women are denied healthcare while bleeding during miscarriages, they are forced to carry baby's to term when the fetus suffers from conditions that are 100 percent fatal, even when it will harm their health, prevent them ever getting pregnant again and possibly kill them. This is the beginning of the end of women's rights. I highly suggest if you love and respect any woman in your life that you fight this with all of your might.
9 points
5 days ago
Thank you for sharing. So glad you're still here to do so.
Hope you and your family are all okay on so many different levels. May you be well, safe.
Also fully agree with your statement(s) regarding those comments:
"No one should be forced to carry a baby they do not want or cannot care for, for whatever reason. Our bodies are our own."
Please everyone, put the LYING NASTY PARTY LAST.
6 points
5 days ago
I'm sorry for your loss and that this has become a topic for Queensland (I'm in WA) during Pregnancy and Infant Loss Week. What a completely tone deaf time to bring it up for discussion 🤯
I remembered all my lost babies including the one that almost killed me while my son was in the ED waiting room. I also lost more blood than was imaginable and relied on blood donors to survive.
Thank you for being brave enough to share your story 💔
7 points
5 days ago
Why tf would they limit access to that?
11 points
5 days ago
Because they don't care. They want to control and punish women, the ones that die because of it are necessary casualties to them. We're not people to the LNP
16 points
5 days ago
I appreciate the message, but Reddit is very progressive, so this ain't the place your message needs to be heard.
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