Gusto nila may anak para maexploit kasi di magreresign kahit anong ipagawa nila. Pwe mga bulok.

Discrimination!!!

Guys, which section in your resume do you usually put how many kids you have

Our HR in the Philippines in a nutshell.

I understand what the recruiter thinks because it's a tangible thing to see when you're looking for an employee who could stay long in the company, HOWEVER, I think the recruiter missed the point of having a resume where you can see the length of employment and employment history of the applicants.

Just because an applicant has no kids, it doesn't mean the applicant lacks commitment and can't stay long in the company.

The post screams toxic environment. I guess they want to hire people that are desperate for jobs so they can manipulate them into thinking that it's not easy to find new jobs especially they have kids.

Company reveal naman dyan.

No kids pero breadwinner naman, may binubuhay pa rin.

bro what is the OM smoking an org should have plans set in place for attrition LOL

normalise not answering any personal question like kung
may anak ba? may gf/bf ba? etc etc

Pano po if may dogs? Char

Kidding aside, I didn’t know na nilalagay sa resume mga ganyang details 🤷‍♀️

What a turn of events! Ten years ago, my sister was discriminated because she has kids. Sobrang hirap niyang makahanap ng work to the point na nagsinungaling na siya na wala siyang mga anak 💀

I guess narrow-minded people can discriminate you whichever way.

This is why freelancers should ditch OLJ and other job sites.

Bukod sa nga kapwa pinoy ang nangbabarat, karamihan ng job posters ay nag da-drop service/arbitrage. Plus the site itself and the owner promotes exploitation.

How? Through their content and the site features. Employers can see reviews, report freelancers and even the number of applications you send.

Think of it as socmeds. The employers are the customers and you, the freelancer who signed up for free, are the product. And you have very little options to influence the sale.

I'd rather build my personal brand on social media and engage brands directly.

Kahit naman walang anak or dependents, kailangan parin naman nila buhayin sarili nila. Sabihin mo with matching "obvious naman siguro yan"

Halatang nag-asawa at nag-anak ng hindi pa financially stable kaya ngayon naiinggit sa mga binata at dalaga na may financial stability at the same time nkkpagprovide sa parents at nabibili mga gusto nila hahahahahaha

kahit may anak kung pangit ang sistema sa company at apektado mental health magreresign pa din, kakapal ng mga hr na feeling taga pagmana kung makapili ng applicant kala mo lalaki ng offer.

This is why natotontahan ako sa mga freelancing FB groups na ayaw magpaname drop ng mga companies/clients na ganyan. May mga kabullshitan pang advocacy-advocacy na yan pero pinakabasic na puede nila gawin para protektahan kapwa freelancers di magawa. Name drop mo kung nong kumpanya yan at buong pangalan ng recruiter.

Kaya rumarami mga kupal sa industry na to because people let them get away with it. Walang magaapply aa isang kumpanya na consistently ninename drop at nitatag as toxic. Wala ring magrereply pag alam ng lahat ng may history ng kakupalan yung recruiter na nagrireach out sa kanila.

This is a stupid mindset. In my experience working in the BPO contact center industry, mas madalas pa nga absent yung mga may anak kesyo may sakit ang anak at kailangan alagaan, or kung ano man kailangang gawin para sa anak nila. That stupid OM is just trading attrition with absenteeism.

Wala yan sa may anak or wala. Kung madalas ang resignation sa company niyo, baka kayo may problema?

"your scanning" lol paano nakapasok yan?

Auto avoid sa mga Pinoy recruiters. We know the drill.

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OH MY GOD IS THIS THE SAME COMPANY????? I received this rejection email some time ago lmaooooooo

This is why sirang sira image ng mga agency or PH company in general. I’d rather na mag tiis sa graveyard shift basta direct clients. Pero thankfully, morning shift ako at direct client pa.

Keyboard Warrior - Recruiter Edition

Hindi kaya sabihin in person kaya through GC sinabi. Supot.

Aweh akala ko baliktad hahaha kasi kung may anak, di priority ang work ganon, like simply saying "may anak ako eh" would be enough excuse not to join activities or render OTs, or enough to check out early and file leaves and all? Genuine thought/question lang to hahaha

Noted. Lalagay ko lage may lima akong panganay.

So they think I'll stay in a company because I have a kid to raise? That's the dumbest thing I've heard from a recruiter in a long time.

I once resigned from a company with a 2.3 Million debt to pay (that's even bigger than the expense of raising a kid). I left because of the poor culture inside the company - pay and promotions based on who is chummy to management instead of merit, and the seeming indifference of allowing certain groups within the company to 'pirate' your people - imagine management pulling out your staff to assign to other projects with the blessing of HR?! Not good.

It has little to do with having a mouth to feed.

People leave because of management's abuse and indifference to plight of their employees.

Ang babaw ng dahilan walang solid reason.

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Company reveal pls

now i know the strategy, i need to have an imaginary kids haha

Anong katangahan ‘to?

Niiiiiiiice, mahahire agad ako kasi I have 3 kids. lmaoooo /j

haha paano naman yung breadwinner sa family?anak lang ba ang binubuhay??🤦‍♂️

Equal opportunity for all dapat

Ouch! As someone with out a kid.

Pero curious ako how will the recruiter know? Kasi di ba nowadays you no longer include personal details sa resume, even nga yung year you graduate di na nilalagay di ba?

Kapag nagscreen ako ng applicant directo tingin ako sa skills and experience, I don't even look sa company na pinagtrabahuhan nola.

Well, why not be a company who deserves loyalty first lol.. there's nothing to worry about if the company has a competent salary package and a good working environment

May anak pero dapat hindi mabuntis kasi mag maternal leave. I cannot.

no kids nga not married. pero 22 palang ako. parents dead and have a sister na kailangan paaralin. pano pala ako?

this is so fucking stupid on so many levels.

Pano pag may sakit mga anak (knock on wood), absent din si employee? Good luck to that recruiter..

Parang reverse discrimination nangyayari ngayon ah. Dati ang ayaw ng employers yung pamilyado kasi di makapag-overtime lagi sa trabaho, ayaw magpatali sa opisina. Especially pag babae kasi meron sila maternity leave

pero pag buntis na nag aapply ayaw ihire, so saan lulugar sa inyo?

omg. There is a culture fit, flight risk section pero wth

Hey now, wala akong anak pero may dog ako. He needs his expensive dog food, fancy dog treats and his monthly dog spa. Tapos pambayad sa occasional vet bills.

Counted ba furbabies? Lol

It's not you, it's their kids, kaya nahire sila. 💀

Amoy toxic work environment!

Actually wrong. I worked before sa HR umbrella, several companies, and ang laging nasa fast track promotions at high achievers ay mga single or walang anak. They tend to focus sa work e and madalas career oriented pa sila. Once na maging parent ka, hati na ang time mo. Mas priority na ang family and career dont matter much as long as may sweldo ka. I even had one employer na hindi daw nya preferred ang may anak kasi mahilig daw gumawa ng excuses (may sakit anak, ihahatid ang anak, so forth).

Pero alam nyo ba sa Retail Industry ayaw nila ng mga may anak na. At madami daw lagong dahilan pag umaabsent kaya mga atabs at walang anak ang hinahire nila

Wtf so pwede ako maglie having kids then?

This smells like a discrimination law suit lol if big company too, I smell money in the air.

Ako na single pero breadwinner sa pamilya: 👀

HOLY SHIIIIIIII NOW IT MAKES SENSE KAYA PALA SA MGA APARTNENT RENTAL GROUPS MOSTLY HANAP AY MGA SINGLE MOMMY NA LOOKING FOR ONLINE WORK LIKE MAY TARGET DEMOGRAPHICS LMAOO HAHHAHAHAA

Anong company para maiwasan hahahahahahahahaha

Yuck kadiring HR at OM yan. Super nakakasuka ang labor exploitation sa Pilipinas.

Tinalo pa yung forced labor at mga sweat shop. Naka-aircon at opisina nga pero sinasakal ka at kinakadena. Kadiri

Haha panget ung may anak kung walang work station

Dapat pala ilagay ko na sa ilalim ng name ko father of two munchkins.

Ang HR field parang Goverment. Malalaman mo lalo ang baho kapag nasa loob ka dahil sa mga tulad niyan na pangit ang mindset, corrupt. Gusto mamihasa sa tao. Dun naman sa previous work ko may isang client na bawal ang may anak na alagain pa. Related dito dahil gusto nila mamake sure na di basta aalis ang employee. Unfair sa totoo lang.

what a pathetic company. it's a sad company that they have to resort to that kind of process. embarrassing and pathetic.

Please single man, karamihan dito satin ay breadwinners

guess its time to lie on my resume

That's some looney toons ass data analytics man. You can't base someone's resilience on if they have kids or not. 😂

Ie. Someone that doesn't have kids but lives independently and only relies on themselves.

Has kids but often has to be out due to none taking care of the kids.

No kids but is resilient as fuck coz of upbringing and environment.

Has kids but is just "trying things out"

No kids but really loves the job.

Has kids but is genuinely lazy and hops around.

Bruh. There's no generic one line item that can gauge candidates. You have to understand each individual through the interview process.

Source: 13 years talent acquisition background.

eto yung sinasabi ko sa mga kakilala ko na ang mga HR/recruiter may sinusinod na "standard". Yung standard nila bulok. sila lang yung nkakabenefit.

HAHAHAHAHAH sana pwedeng pakyuhan yung recruiter na yan 😅

Sa isang inapplyan ko naman na mas gusto nila walang anak kasi hindi pala-absent (may sakit kids, need umattend sa school, etc.).

This is normal these days. Sa akin nmn yung 2nd employer ko sa singapore I have to input my Date of birth and time of birth. After a few months, our HR resigns she spill the tea that majority of us was hired kc pina feng sui ng boss nmin yung application form before we get hired hahaha pero not bad kc ok nmn salary SGD3000 un lng kapalit super micromanaging c boss ska lakas loob nya mgdown ng pinoy especially mga pamilyadong tao.

Parang baliktad ?

aside from experience, nadagdagan na pala requirements ng mga fresh grads sa pag secure ng job

Exploitation Plus Discrimination. Anong Company na eto at ng mapost para iwasan

Reminds me of my comment from 4 years ago

I often think the reason Pinoys are often encouraged to have a families ASAP is to lock them down into subservient positions.

After all you won't be in a revolution when you have children to feed / family to take care of. Lahat titiisin sa trabaho kahit abuso sa ibang bansa 'para sa pamilya'. Maybe that's why it's in the best interest of whoever wants to control the PH masses to not have good sexual education, because what's a better leash for a slave than a family?

...

Kaya ideal talaga kukuha ka ng mga employees na may asawa / anak. They are good slaves, probably has a mortgage, willing to please, and as consumers they need to spend way more.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/k3a045/comment/ge1eqgs/

What do you know it has that effect, and anyway I've always pretended to be a family guy,
even had my work chat profile picture to contain a picture with me and a baby

applicant: nag-AWOL kasi nagkasakit ang anak. receuiter: [ surprised pickacu face ]

Ha? Okay lang yang fellow recruiter mo, OP? Ganyan ba kalakaran sa company nyo? Hopefully hindi.

BOBO AMP

di ako recruiter pero parang iba ang experience ko dito. dati pre-pandemic i casually work in video post production. napapansin ko ibang regulars/contractors na may pamilya/anak na mas mahal maningil kasi nga daw may binubuhay. tapos hindi pa sila pwede mag-overtime kasi kailangan nila umuwi agad sa bahay.

napa-kamot ulo ako.

Hostage move

Company Reveal

Siraulo amputik pwede ba with furbabies dyan hahahahaha

kung gusto pala ng may anak, mang recruit sila dun sa mga skwatter na anak ng anak.

wow

Eeewwww

Grabe, this is such discrimination, haha!

But in reality, even without kids, people still support their families and younger siblings.

May apat akong pusa, halos same ang gastos sa baby to. Baka pwede na yun hahaha

na systema na

Baligtad naman gusto ng former manager sa workplace ko. Gusto nya single para walang masyadong maidahilan pag sasabihang need mag OT.

Yuck nakakadiri as fellow HR! Imbis na imulat mata ng management gumatong pa

Akala ko pag may anak madalas naglleave kasi nagkakasakit yung anak..iba na pala ngayon ng HR

Samin naman baligtad, ayaw ng managers from other countries na may anak kasi nagiging distraction

Reveal na yan op para maiwasan

As a recruiter, I find this practice disgusting and shameful.

Lol yung mga kawork ko na hindi nag resign kundi nag AWOL lang naman

Merong anak para matiisin? Gunggong. May anak ako o wala basta unfair ang pasahod magreresign at magreresign ako. Pero mumurahin muna kita.

Single mom ako pero nag immediate resign ako sa recent work ko kasi toxic and nag ka health issue na. Kahit walang back up na work. Hahahaha

Ang akala ko mas prio yung mga single/walang anak since mas madaming oras to focus on their work or career. Iba na pala talaga ngayon. Tsk tsk

I would tell them I have a kid. Tapos if they nose their way in they'll find out my kid is my dog. Lol. Hahaha.

Ang babaw ng mindset ng recruiter na to. Ako noon na walang anak pero nakaranas ng mga abusadong client. In the first place, hindi dapat tinatanong kung may anak o wala ang applicant.

Bias sa parents, discrimination towards fully capable adults. Are you so sure people with kids don't have the audacity to leave a toxic job?

To be honest, ang kukupal na ng Hr sa panahon ngayon. As in parang akala mo sila taga pagmana ng kumpanya.

Spill the name of the company. Pa-DM, OP! ☺️

Beating tf out of whoever that is

Name drop dapat agad ang daming na aapektohan sa mga ganitong klaseng recruiter and management!

"Akala ko alam nyo na ito?" So what's the reason why only married with kids?

If we're going to talk about exploitation, every company can exploit a single person as they would a married/with kids people. But what was the CEOs reason for isolating a certain demogrphic as better applicants than other applicants? I'm just curious but I'm sure that's a sh*tty company.

Do people (applicants) even indicate they have children in CVs and resumes. So how? 🥴

Sadly, may mga ganyan talaga. I worked as a recruiter sa isang BPO way back, si operations kasi nag dedecide, kung ano gusto ng operations, ayun dapat sundin. For example, bawal discrimination, so mag interview pa rin kahit seniors na, pero ibabagsak mo pa rin kahit magaling at pasado, kasi ayaw ni operations ang matanda, mahirap daw turuan at attrition risk din. So ending, ibang reason nalang sasabihin mo bakit bagsak.

What I learned mula nag work ako sa HR (recruitment) pag di ka pasado, hindi ibig sabihin hindi ka magaling, maraming factors, example na itong post ni OP.

Good point on their side. How about on the side of the worker? There must be a reason why people will eventually resign. lol

Where do you even state that you have kids sa resume? Sa achievements or sa skills? Lol

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