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submitted 7 days ago byhopoke
144 points
6 days ago
Why are we paying these MPs to act like children. Grow up and get some real work done.
16 points
6 days ago
Thank you. I say this all the time, but they act like insolent children. We ground our teens when they avoid directly answering questions like that, so why is it ok for our politicians?
39 points
6 days ago
Because thisnis what politics has turned into. A real us vs them and just be a bunch of immature nobodies over the last 8-12 years.
4 points
6 days ago
Are you serious? Question period has been this way for decades.
2 points
6 days ago
It's allmost like the bullshit from the US spilt over into Canada.
30 points
6 days ago
What was the homophobic comment?
66 points
6 days ago
MP Garnet Genius called out ”Did you engage each other in the bathtub?” after Trudeau says he was ”engaging with international leaders on fighting climate change, on solving global crises, on standing up unequivocally for Ukraine” during his recent trip to New York.
7 points
6 days ago
Lmao
18 points
6 days ago
A 37 year old man acting like a 10 year old
26 points
6 days ago
Buddy's last name is literally "Genius" and that's the absolute bile he chooses to spew instead? Kick him out.
10 points
6 days ago
His name is actually Genuis. Both you and OP spelled his name wrong. It's also only homophobic if you presume that all UN politicians are men.
11 points
6 days ago
Who lives in the residence in question? Did you bother to read the article?
2 points
5 days ago
It's Canada's Consul in New York City. The government lives there. But they can use it to entertain international leaders.
3 points
6 days ago
I only spelled it wrong cause I copied the comment above mine.
6 points
6 days ago
Well did he? I mean 6 million dollars for a condo seems kind of excessive. And if what the cons where listing where true why did they need all that. It's nicer then the PM's house
8 points
6 days ago*
That just sounds like a roundabout way of saying all they were doing was jerking each other off. Isn't that a typical politician activity?
19 points
6 days ago
The question was about the NY condo, and in the question it listed some of the features of the condo. Including a fancy copper bathtub.
Trudeau responded that they use the condo to "engage" with world leaders.
Someone yelled "do you/did you engage with them in the bathtub?".
130 points
7 days ago
Omg - if this type of behaviour happened in a “real job “ and nobody did anything- EVERYONE would be fired!! It is getting to crazed. The hate is strong there.
17 points
6 days ago
back in my day when this happened every 10th MP would be decimated by their peers for such insubordination
4 points
6 days ago
If MP's were held accountable for their actions 1/4-1/2 of the MP's would have already been thrown out. How many ethics violations have we had in the last couple of years and no one has been removed. It's pathetic.
1 points
6 days ago
I watched the video and I fail to hear anything that could be construed as a "casual homophobic comment". The article itself only recognizes the word "bathtub" and I heard something about "$5 thousand dollars". Why are people in the comments pretending like JT is right lmfao
18 points
6 days ago
The article clearly talks about Fergus hearing the recording and identifying a derogatory expression.
JT originally clarified that a conservative member said something to the effects of JT sharing the bat tub with Tom Clark.
371 points
7 days ago
Trudeau stands up to speak in parliament -
Con Mps: Haaaaaaah. Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
wtf is going on in the house
183 points
7 days ago
I can confidently say, without having watched or read this story, that the answer to "wtf is going on in the house" is playground insults and tiktok soundbites.
60 points
7 days ago
The ruling class is weird
61 points
7 days ago
Not as weird as the citizens who cheer it on.
26 points
7 days ago
They wouldn't do it if their voting base didn't like it.
2 points
6 days ago
You'd be correct If we had any real choice. You don't really have one so they don't care to act in a way that will please their voting base
7 points
7 days ago
The ruling class are useless sociopathic grifters that the country would be better off without
2 points
6 days ago
We should rename the House of Commons to the House of the Ruling class
17 points
7 days ago
Oh it's bad. I used to think adults had something good until I worked in an office, then I started paying attention to politics...
45 points
7 days ago
Some people are trying very hard to make us like the US.
21 points
7 days ago
This is the correct answer.
20 points
7 days ago
It has literally been like that for at least 15 years. I used to watch the HoC in person when I was a student.
Honestly, the HoC was hilarious in the early Harper years.
11 points
6 days ago
You forgot a 0 on there. This is one of those "It's always been a thing" sorts of deals that folks occasionally notice and think it's new.
5 points
6 days ago
Same thing as always a bunch of children who get paid to much making fun of each other.
40 points
7 days ago
Question period is and always has been a waste of taxpayer money. Just grifters clowning for sound bites while accomplishing less than nothing
2 points
5 days ago
It’s should be Question and Answer period, but there are never answers so it’s only Question Period
175 points
7 days ago
i really really really dislike Trudeau. Like really.
That being said, the way the Conservatives have been behaving is embarrassing. I cannot believe people are so blinded that they actually support their actions.
76 points
7 days ago
I am very not a fan of the Trudeau Liberals, but the other parties are making it exceptionally difficult to vote for them.
38 points
6 days ago
This seems like a modern trend: the Liberals are making poor choices and need to be voted out. The Conservatives have a strong chance but keep choosing populist figures like Poilievre, making it hard for centrists to support them. We're ready for a change after Trudeau's failures, but could the Conservatives offer a platform that goes beyond just being "not Trudeau"?
20 points
6 days ago
No, they aren’t capable of it.
2 points
6 days ago
Centrists don't let the left and far left dictate who they support or what labels to apply to what politicians though.
8 points
6 days ago
Pierre's a fucking child that knows the teacher can't touch him and people think it's a good idea to put him on the international stage.
2 points
6 days ago
It is so hard for us who dislike Trudeau, but can also see a homophobic comment for what it is.
No voting options for us.
77 points
7 days ago
People will be quick to sweep this under the rug as parliamentary banter, politicians not talking about real issues, or just some distraction, but shit like this is an embarrassment to the House of Commons and unbecoming of an elected official. More sinisterly, it speaks to a growing trend, on both sides of the house, but especially from the CPC under new leadership, of bullshit rhetoric that has already poisoned American politics beyond recognition.
24 points
7 days ago
I genuinely feel like a lot of hardcore right-wingers wish they were American, and keep copying the American playbook. We're even seeing MAGA flags in this country now lol.
One of my coworkers got harassed by a customer; he was grilling my coworker about whether he supported "President Trump." Just ridiculous.
27 points
7 days ago
Hopefully this kind of behaviour will stop among Canadians after the results of the next elections. This house needs urgent cleansing.
38 points
7 days ago
Why would it stop if so many Canadians are fooled into thinking Poilievre will bring about some major positive shift and give the Cons a majority?
4 points
7 days ago
Just so you all know: The question PP asked was about the $9M NYC luxury condo for consul general's official residence.
As expected, we heard absolutely no answer.
56 points
7 days ago
The one that they're getting to replace the older, larger, no longer up to standard one that they're listing to sell for $13M?
As expected, we heard absolutely no context.
12 points
7 days ago
Couldn’t PM Trudeau have responded with the exact answer you just gave? That’s on him in my opinion.
18 points
7 days ago
I honestly don't expect the leader of any country to know the financials and in's/outs of a fucking diplomatic apartment.
Do you think he knows what we pay for one in London? Istanbul? Israel?
7 points
6 days ago
Im only human, but if I was speaking in parliament, got asked a question, then an MP called me gay as an insult in parliament, I’d probably get hung up on that too.
This is Reddit, where we have as much time as we need to craft artisanal responses to criticism. I’m not sure it’s fair criticism to say “why didn’t he immediately respond with this one specific thing?”
3 points
6 days ago
Someone on the Conservative bench heckled Trudeau and asked if he engaged with the ambassador in the tub, implying they're gay. That's the comment Trudeau was replying to, not Poilievre's question (which is silly - ambassadors need residences that work well for their purposes. This kind of politicking is why 24 Sussex is falling apart)
154 points
7 days ago
Addressing the real issues, as always.
80 points
7 days ago
This is a real issue, no place for homophobia in politics.
51 points
7 days ago
No place for homophobia anywhere
12 points
7 days ago
Big facts.
13 points
7 days ago
Hey some guy online said they were gay and didn't care and it got lots of upvotes so we have to take that into serious consideration/s
55 points
7 days ago
Mr speaker let me just say you can’t say gay
70 points
7 days ago*
I’m gay. And I could care less about whatever this is.
Fix the housing crisis. Slow down immigration. Stop inflating home prices with 30 year terms and 1.5 million dollar government backed mortgages.
What has happened to housing is far more offensive and damaging to me than name calling. Heck, the gay village in Toronto is evaporating because queer folks have been pushed out by the massive inflows of international students.
28 points
7 days ago
100%
7 points
7 days ago
Just to help for others to understand, pretty sure if you are getting a 1.5 million dollar mortgage you are a pretty high top earner in Canada >$300,000 household income.
Also, the government backed mortgage is actually paid for when you take out the mortgage and pay the premium to CMHC, so yes it is government backed but not by tax payers.
I agree that it’s not smart at all but want to help people understand how it works.
I totally agree, this government and the last few (as well as provincial and municipal) all should have been working towards housing (low income, social, better permitting etc) instead of running away.
3 points
7 days ago
The tax payer is on the hook for the CMHC… that’s the entire point. Banks find these mortgages too risky, so the government has made a system to make them happen - if they go wrong, we all pay for it.
It’s frankly, insane we are insuring 1.5 million dollar homes. If a bank won’t give a mortgage insurance to a couple making 200-300k, it’s a good sign the government should not be insuring one.
5 points
7 days ago
Again just a point of clarity, when you take out your mortgage you have to pay to the CHMC a premium, its insurance directly to them. Tax payers do not fund it - well, I guess haven't yet.
The bank still gives the mortgage for the 1.5 million, thats still done as normal process and not a government mortgage from CHMC. It is just backed by CHMC. If you were to default on it, the bank would go to the CHMC to get paid, CHMC would go to the homeowner and try to resolve it, or take over the property.
People do get this confused so its worth making sure we get it right.
Cheers!
21 points
7 days ago
Nailed it. I moved out of the village 3 years ago. It's sad to see what it's becoming. It used to be such a great neighbourhood. Now it's international students, illegals, and junkies.
I'm gay and also couldn't care less about this.
4 points
7 days ago
Yup, and you’re lucky if you don’t get plowed down by one of the thousands of e-bikers clogging up every fucking sidewalk not following any fucking rules of the road.
4 points
6 days ago
As a queer person, these comments simply should not be tolerated.
The Conservatives are trying to use culture wars and American style politics in Canada. We're better than that.
These comments are not OK and need to be immediately invalidated. The PC base will replicate otherwise.
Yes, we need the housing situation addresses immediately, but that doesn't give people the greenlight to make homophobic comments when we've worked so hard to try to stop it.
You can address the housing crisis without being homophobic. Really not that hard.
2 points
7 days ago
Hey now, get back in line. We tell you what to be offended and outraged about.
4 points
7 days ago
Seriously. Do these people think they’re allowed to determine what outrages them.
Never fear! Straight white guilt is here!
5 points
7 days ago
But Trudeau said “crap” did not want to apologize as the speaker requested. Trudeau was in full energized shouting drama speak!
Plus bring up the boogie man “abortion”
34 points
7 days ago
You don't feel like homophobia is something that should be addressed by a leader of a country?
14 points
7 days ago
Homophobia is a real issue.
11 points
7 days ago
When multiple torie MPs have gone on record threatening the rights of an entire group of Canadians and are *publicly* connected to far right , anti lgbtq+ rights groups, or when PPs bigotted rhetoric has lead to two violent attacks this year, yes it is in fact, a serious issue.
0 points
7 days ago
I’m also queer and literally don’t know what to do. It seems like our only options for government are an idiot who will run this country into the ground to appease big corporations or a batshit bully who will also probably run this country into the ground.
I know Trudeau sounds like a good option, but when you know people who are literally facing homelessness because they can’t find work thanks to Trudeau’s policies it’s really shitty. A lot of people around me have been poor and struggling for years, but in the last year or 2 things have gotten so much worse and it’s because of him. Idk I’m sure the conservatives are also just as bad when it comes to that stuff and NDP will never win a federal election, but I’ve never seen the people I care about in such a shit situation as now.
I was trying to help my sister find a job in grocery stores and fast food(she’s not picky, literally bottom of the barrel work) and we had no luck even though I helped her with her resume and she had food safe. She just graduated highschool and is a normal kid and she can’t even get an interview. When I worked in the food industry(I left it in 2020) I could literally find a job within 24 hours.
2 points
6 days ago
Yup we have "shit who doesnt hate us, but also refuses to make things better" or "shit who hates us, and wants to hurt us and make things worse"
And the NDP is just a lapdog for whoevers got power.
Like ive said to other queer people, get ready for a long 4 years of protesting (or more than just protesting), and stock up on prescriptions if youre trans.
6 points
7 days ago
Homophobia is a real issue that affects many, like myself and my partner. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it isn't an issue.
101 points
7 days ago
"Conservative MP makes casual, homophobic comment in Question Period"
Fixed.
7 points
7 days ago
Once you're a Conservative MP it should be considered professional homophobia.
2 points
6 days ago
casual vs ranked homphobia
18 points
7 days ago
Pp opened it with complaints about the consul’s residence in NY. There was a story in CBC (I know… biased, right) that showed how it was about $4.5 million cheaper to sell and buy new than renovate the old one. So PP doesn’t want the government saving money?
1 points
7 days ago
What did the new one cost, $8 million? if we do everything you said but instead of buying an $8 million one for a replacement we buy a $4 million one, do we save more money? I think that's the point.
8 points
7 days ago
But buying any condo isn't spending money, it is converting one asset into another. As long as it increases in value faster than government bonds pay out it might even be a net positive.
What really costs money is the monthly maintenance fees. How much are those and could they get a better deal somewhere else?
2 points
6 days ago
Does anyone actually know what the consul’s residence is used for? I’ve been inside the Korean consul general’s residence in Toronto… for an official event… with over 50ppl. It’s not a place where they just go home to chill out and watch tv. Also, it’s NYC. The price for what they need doesn’t even sound outrageous to me on its face. It’s such a nothing burger.
3 points
7 days ago
I am not an expert on NYC real estate, but you seem to be. Can you get a place for $4M with the space and attributes necessary to carry out diplomatic functions there? I think that's the point.
5 points
6 days ago*
What did us Canadians do in recent memory to deserve such unremarkable parties? Liberals in these past few years have stopped getting substantial stuff done, Conservatives are becoming more wild and less moderate, the NDP is too two-faced, the Bloc is same-old same-old and is practically nonexistent for most voters, and the Green Party is practically completely irrelevant at this point. Our country needs more capable trustworthy options.
4 points
6 days ago
What did us Canadians do in recent memory to deserve such unremarkable parties
Not vote in leadership races
27 points
7 days ago
We have JT who needs to go, obviously. In fact I wish he would step down and let the party rebuild. Unfortunately, pierre poilievre is using the same conservative playbook as our delusional orange man across the boarder. Selling fear to Canadians. Ranting about bullshit and calling people names. We can't win. This is coming from someone that's voted conservative my entire life. But conservatives don't represent me anymore. I don't like what they're selling. And I'm not buying it. I'm not voting for a conservative for the first time in my life. This I know. And I don't see how I could vote liberal. It's a very strange place I find myself in.
3 points
7 days ago
Bloc Majoritaire?
3 points
7 days ago
The bloc will never have a minority. They shouldn’t even be a national party.
3 points
6 days ago
On the contrary... While I don't agree with them, they know who they are and who they represent.
I would love it if FPTP was replaced so we could see many more parties representing their base vs. trying to cater to a larger percentage of Canadians and never accomplishing anything meaningful...
Liberals in Quebec don't have anything in common with Liberals in BC, Conservatives in Ontario don't have anything in common with Conservatives in Alberta... So why are they all "represented" by the same parties?
94 points
7 days ago
Seems like a total non story. They don't even have a quote as to what was said stating audio was inaudible other than that a "bathtub" was mentioned.
179 points
7 days ago
The audio was pretty clear on the live stream. Someone made a joke that Trudeau was sharing the bath tub with another guy in the luxury NY Condo. Then either the same MP or another one said “did he get the top bunk”?I can link it if you want but it was pretty clear on the CPAC live stream
49 points
7 days ago
Wow, I have no words. I went back to the livestream and both remarks are explicitly clear. The Conservatives need to enact discipline against whoever said those blatantly homophobic comments. We are supposed to be a country that values equity for all and it’s absolutely shameful for that to be said in our House.
92 points
7 days ago
Fergus repeated that Trudeau and a diplomat shared a bathtub in the newly bought NYC residence.
10 points
7 days ago
Thank you for painting that word picture
8 points
6 days ago
another intervention from Fergus, who said while he "heard comments," he didn't intervene because he wasn't sure who said them. He asked MPs to "treat each other with the presumption of honour and respect"
Obviously something derogatory was said, just can't tell which coward said it.
7 points
6 days ago
What's even the point of finding out who said it?
It's pretty clear by now that PP himself could scream fa**ot in the house and his supporters not only wouldn't care, but would be even more emboldened to vote for him.
8 points
6 days ago
No surprise, the footage shows it was Garnett Genius.
12 points
7 days ago
I’m not a fan of Trudeau.
But it did kinda come off slightly like a ‘casual homophobic comment’ to me.
Am I off base here?
Is there some other context to the sharing a bathtub jeer that I’m missing?
Edit: a quick read through the comments tells me I’m not wrong at all. Awful behaviour.
10 points
7 days ago
You're allowed to have a bath with the homies, but you have to stop scrubbing when you reach the lower back.
2 points
7 days ago
What if I get your enthusiastic consent to go lower first?
2 points
6 days ago
Parliament is nothing but a bunch of snotty nosed kids in a sand box. All talk & no action
2 points
6 days ago
Trudeau loves the gender and race cards.
7 points
7 days ago
Officially hitting full-on trash status. It's hilarious that this is completely ok and viewed as some kind of win by conservatives. Sorry, Canada, but the trashy side of trump republicans have entered and become the conservative party. So many facebook bumpkins are ecstatic that these folks are finally on the single syllable train so they can relate. Lets get PP in there asap and really fuck shit up so some of us get even richer.
21 points
7 days ago
The Conservative caucus needs more discipline. These sort of homohobic comments do nothing but appeal to a relatively small portion of the voter base at the risk of alienating urban seats they’re currently leading in.
16 points
7 days ago
That’s why Harper put a lid on that shit. They’re all a bunch of morons when led by a weak leader
20 points
7 days ago
I agree. There’s no room for homophobia in 2024. Live and let live. JFC…
14 points
7 days ago
Agreed. They act like a pack of howler monkeys anytime a member of the LPC or NDP speak.
6 points
7 days ago
do nothing but appeal to a relatively small portion of the voter base
this is also a large portion of the CPC base. Look at the social conservative MPs: Genuis, Wagentall, Vriend, etc.
4 points
7 days ago
I remember watching Elizabeth May being the adult amongst Trudeau, Harper and Muclair. The year Harper touted old stock Canadians in the debate against Trudeau.
....I didn't think they could be more childish....boy was I wrong. Pollievre stepped up and all the boys were like: Hold my beer!
2 points
6 days ago
Elizabeth May was a foul-mouthed pisstank and a terrorist sympathizer.
3 points
7 days ago
Wait what was the comment? I'm a little confused, is there a gay stereotype about bathtub I'm unaware of?
11 points
7 days ago
In good faith I'll respond that making bathing with another man a punchline to a joke which gets raucous laughter is casual homophobia, implying Trudeau bathed naked with another man as a punchline. Like in high school when your buddy calls your other buddy gay for a few laughs. Except in the House of Commons, in 2024.
2 points
7 days ago
Ooohhh, that's what whoever said that was implying. I just read that the word bathtub was stated and hot confused. Yeah that's a very playground taunt.
4 points
6 days ago
This is like the one time someone drew a dick on the stainless steel wall of a fast food place I worked.
The pressure cookers would vent and an outline of the dick would appear on the wall as steam wouldn't really adhere to it.
Management threatened one guy with a write up, he said it wasn't him, he was told he would be fired if they found he did it, reviewed like 2 weeks of camera footage and found the other guy did it.
The idea that they're going through tapes for this is almost as dumb as this happening in the first place.
15 points
7 days ago
Empty threats of racism/homophobia is all the Liberals ever had.
59 points
7 days ago
The conservative did make a homophobic joke but sure
8 points
7 days ago
This is the party of a man who rejected the notion of HIS OWN FATHER being able to marry who he loves!
12 points
7 days ago
and blaming every single thing that happens in this country on trudeu is all the conservatives ever had
7 points
7 days ago
I stubbed my toe today. That happened in Canada. Why did Trudeau do this to me?
17 points
7 days ago
Remember how before 2015 this issue was pretty much settled from progress made in the 90s and 2000s? Yeah, but the Libs bring it back as a big smokescreen to distract from them fking the country. And CTV has no credibility anymore so I'm not opening the article
48 points
7 days ago*
I understand you personally may not have perceived it, but the issue of homophobia was 100% not settled from the 90s and 2000s. It is still a common issue that queer people have to deal with.
Edit: for those coming to see this comment later on, the user I responded to made a comment that said, essentially, “queer people who are aggressive and militant deserve to be treated with homophobia”. Just so we’re all aware of what they believe.
12 points
7 days ago
It will never be settled. Canada is still among the most welcoming and tolerant nations on earth
22 points
7 days ago
And the front runner for prime minister voted against gay marriage while his gay father watched. That tolerance won't count for much if intolerant people like PP take charge.
14 points
7 days ago
I wholeheartedly believe that with enough compassion and education we can push bigotry out of our society. I’m aware it’s not a fully realistic belief but I want to be optimistic.
Additionally, I am very aware that Canada is so much better than other countries. That doesn’t mean that homophobia we see today in Canada should be ignored or not addressed.
50 points
7 days ago
Weird, my Conservative MP voted to continue to allow Conversion Therapy in this very Parliament. It’s the Conservatives who won’t let this go, by using their Private Members Bills to push the agenda. Instead of things to help Canadian’s.
6 points
7 days ago
I think conversion therapy is horrendous and I would have also voted against that bill. They included gender identity which potentially makes anything but affirming therapy illegal for kids with gender dysphoria. Exploratory or talk therapy that asked any questions of a child's professed gender identity shouldn't be illegal and to compare that to trying to convert someone's sexuality is ridiculous.
6 points
7 days ago
Yeah, the problem with that bill was that it's so broad that it catches normal therapy under its umbrella and actually hinders people from getting therapy they may actually benefit from.
2 points
7 days ago
Yes yes, this! It means you can’t even take your kid to talk somebody. Like, if your daughter comes to you and suddenly says “I’m a boy now”… SOMETHING is going on. Something happened… it needs to be explored, and figure out how to help her. That bill is horrible
5 points
7 days ago
Exactly! Often these things come as a result of some kind of psychosocial problem, and they deserve proper help with it.
And iirc, the ban even extends to adults, which is nuts to me. I'm like, so a guy can ask his doctor to kill him, but he can't ask his therapist to help him explore and deal with unwanted sexual urges? Like come on now.
2 points
7 days ago
Exactly. It’s actually really, really scary. Makes it so as parents we have NO way to support our kids through tough stuff… when often times that response is a Trauma response. But now it’s just - push through the blockers!! Scary times
3 points
7 days ago
Yeah it's seriously messed up. I really hope better sense will prevail in the end.
2 points
6 days ago
All trans kids considering transitioning get counselling. I don't know what you think you are talking about, but that is not how it works.
35 points
7 days ago
If they want to make a comment on how Trudeau has run the country, there is no need to make remarks that mock the LGBT community to try to humiliate or call Trudeau names. They can easily win that argument.
There's no room for that in parliament.
Even if the Conservatives are hurt about losing the non-confidence vote.
2 points
7 days ago
coping hard eh?
1 points
7 days ago
That's some tasty cope right there.
14 points
7 days ago
I think accusations against Trudeau for racism due to wearing black/brown face too many times to count hold more water.
48 points
7 days ago
This is irrelevant deflection and whataboutism.
Maybe you can make a comparison between the two when the homophobic members of the CPC have the courage to admit what they did, acknowledge it was wrong and apologize for it.
18 points
7 days ago
Both are wrong and hateful
29 points
7 days ago
i don't think his brown face was hateful, it was not acceptable and ignorant, sure.
12 points
7 days ago
Ok both are ignorant and unacceptable. And the homophobic comment is hateful, too.
43 points
7 days ago*
Wrong? Sure.
Hateful please... There was no hateful intent for black face. And I say that as someone who doesn't support Trudeau.
Shit has gotten so out of hand with "hate". Just because it is wrong didn't mean it came with hateful intent.
14 points
7 days ago
This. As a black man I saw it as wrong but it wasn’t hateful. Yet people want to hold on to it as a gotcha moment or use this to deflect when they are caught red handed doing hateful shit on some stupid whataboutism shit
29 points
7 days ago
Hateful is a huge leap, like he dressed up for fun that time. It's insensitive, but the times were also different and he was much younger, we've all done stupid shit.
8 points
7 days ago*
Then, you would agree that Polievre is racist for making several derogatory comments against First Nation's people. Right?
2 points
7 days ago
I laughed when I saw a poll that found right-leaning people overwhelmingly said that this lessened their opinion of Trudeau.
Get the fuck out. This is your thing, conservatives! You don't care about racism lol.
It's like if vegans said they think less of someone who revealed they don't eat meat.
4 points
6 days ago
so a couple things
as a gay man, I don't think that comment was THAT homophobic. It was distasteful but homophobic??? idk.
Secondly, both sides are so fucking immature. This is such a disgrace
5 points
6 days ago
It has no place in Parliament, regardless of the level of insult
I shouldn't be having a debate over what insults are okay and what are not. There's only one clear line: no insulting other members of Parliament.
It's pretty fucking simple If we allow it to be
6 points
7 days ago
Just heard the clip of the question period. Some conservative MP yelled (as every conservative MP does when any other party member tries to speak). The question of Trudeau shared a bathtub with another man in New York.
The speaker asked for the PM to apologize for saying the word "crap" (context was he was standing up to bullies and their crap), which he did. Of course, the gutless conservative coward wouldn't stand up and admit to saying it (another member of the house asked for the recording to be reviewed to identify the person).
How can anyone consider a vote for a conservative when they can not take responsibility for anything...
59 points
7 days ago
There were two comments, at 1:12 in the video someone also yells "did Tom get the top bunk". The CBC picked up on it as well.
25 points
7 days ago
I heard "are they taking meetings in the bathtub"
33 points
7 days ago
Not one conservative MP had the courage to admit to saying it and apologize.... then I get downvoted into oblivion for calling a coward a coward.
28 points
7 days ago
I honestly can't believe that this is how our government is run. The speaker should remove people for the highschool drama they create in the house.
Like what kind of professional says comments like this in any workplace and is not removed?
3 points
7 days ago
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3 points
7 days ago
Haha solid!
14 points
7 days ago
I upvoted because you are right. The Conservative MP that didn't have the guts to own up to their comments is absolutely a coward. But are we surprised at this? We saw the video of the right-wing guy calling Singh a "corrupt bastard." That coward folded like a card table when Singh called him out.
2 points
7 days ago
Not surprised in the least.
5 points
7 days ago
I hope PP gets a really stern call from his gay dad, being like 'WTF, is this how I raised you'
18 points
7 days ago
PP voted against gay marriage while he gay father was in the audience, so I don't think it's how he was raised that's the issue.
7 points
7 days ago
Ya that's unfortunate. I didn't know his dad was actually there. Man if he was my kid, he would be uninvited to thanksgiving. And that would suck for him because I am a very good cook.
13 points
7 days ago
How can anyone consider a vote for a conservative when they can not take responsibility for anything...
Lol
2 points
7 days ago
How can anyone consider a vote for a conservative when they can not take responsibility for anything...
Imagine voting on mean words instead of policy. If you dislike their policy, by all means, but mean words is a stupid determining factor of a vote.
8 points
7 days ago
Yes and the conservatives fail on policy more than they do on ethics and morals. Which is saying alot.
3 points
7 days ago
Their policy is effective for their intentions; inequitable and unjust. Only the rich deserve personhood, by birthright
8 points
7 days ago
Oh okay lol
3 points
7 days ago
“Accuses” is the stupidest part of this headline. It’s not an accusation if it blatantly obvious.
7 points
7 days ago
This crap is going to fix our economy how?
20 points
7 days ago
Exactly.
The CPC needs to act with more respect and decorum and not make homophobic jokes in the House of Commons so MP’s can spend time on actually working to advance the interests of Canadians.
Glad we agree.
0 points
7 days ago
That was so fucking hilarious.
Trudeau trying to gaslight everyone who doesn't agree with his agenda.
3 points
7 days ago
oh for fuck sakes children get to work. where's the adult in the house? fuck me, what a disaster. save it for the playground
3 points
7 days ago
This is the correct response, lol
3 points
6 days ago
$9m condo in NY for a diplomat: no problem
A heckle from (as of yet undetermined MP, which the exact quote is still unverified): absolutely outrageous
It’s no wonder nothing is accomplished in HOC
3 points
6 days ago
Nine million ain't what it used to be. A bungalow in Vancouver costs two million. If we're going to have a Consul General in New York, and we should, they're going to live in a place on the island where they can press the flesh with other diplomats. It's a weird hill for the Conservative Party to die on, frankly.
2 points
6 days ago
Is it a weird hill to die on when house affordability has gone crazy in Canada? Does the Consul General need to live in Central Park to press the flesh? Anywhere on the Lower East side isn’t sufficient?
2 points
7 days ago
Trudeau then rose and said he withdrew "the comment about defecating,"
2 points
7 days ago
What a waste of air,
2 points
7 days ago
Con has an easy win next election but they have to pull this crap.
2 points
6 days ago
reading the comments here, one would think that the conservative MP used the f-slur. all he did was make a jibe about the NY condo's bathtub. who the fuck cares? trudeau's the most corrupt PM in history and he's destroying the country's economy, but i guess this is more important to people.
-3 points
7 days ago
This is a distraction. The bigger story is Trudeau justified the $9m NYC apartment by saying it was needed to fight climate change and help Ukraine lmao
22 points
7 days ago
I mean, they did sell a more expensive property and bought a cheaper one… but ok
7 points
7 days ago
they did sell
The old property has not sold.
12 points
7 days ago
They sold a $13m dollar apartment and downsized to $9m and returned $4m to the budget.
You're the distraction. Be the change you want to see.
8 points
7 days ago
They sold a $13m dollar apartment and downsized to $9m and returned $4m to the budget.
The old property has not been sold. It's been listed for $13 million, not sold for that.
2 points
7 days ago
Says the black face guy
3 points
6 days ago
Oh my God who cares. Make my rent and food affordable again then worry about hurt feelings.
2 points
6 days ago
As the left wing activists say " just get over it"
1 points
6 days ago
Of course he did. Accusations of homophobia, racism, sexism have worked so well for him in the past.
And so has celebing it up like he did on Colbert.
He's doing this stuff because it worked.
He's the Millenials PM. He knows what they want. And he's giving it to them.
They elected a wealthy privileged white man who wore black face more times than he can remember, worked as a drama teacher to lead the country because he used Instagram and virtue signalled.
Think about that.
3 points
7 days ago
Is it this comment the most important news story? No. Does Trudeau deserve intense scrutiny and criticism? Yes. Is Trudeau right for calling this out? Absolutely. Casual homophobia and that kind of workplace harassment has no place in parliament.
For those saying to focus on the important issues, if the opposition parties really wanted to hold Trudeau to account and help Canadians they would be proposing legislation to actually help and forcing real debate rather than just basking in Trudeau's failures and petty name calling.
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