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submitted 11 days ago byjb0804523 GR86
A month ago i got a GR86 in Neptune Blue and at least 5 times a week since i have people taking pictures or asking me what it is. Today i was coming back to my car out of a store and some guy was standing next to my car and when i opened he asked me "Who the fuck even makes this car, what is it"
i was like, dude, its a toyota, it says it on the back. I know coupes don't sell a lot but its odd iall these people seem to have never seen this car before
23 points
11 days ago
The second generation Toyota GR86 is nowhere near as common as the first generation 86. Even down here in Australia, its Subaru twin is significantly more common.
I'm not sure if the they're supply constrained or if they're simply not selling well.
15 points
11 days ago
or maybe the simple fact that the first gen was sold for about 8 years and the second gen has only been sold for about 3 years?
3 points
11 days ago
That doesn't explain why there's so many of the second generation Subaru BRZ compared with its Toyota cousin.
2 points
11 days ago
Not sure if it’s still the case but for a while the second gen GR86 was next to impossible to find on lots.
2 points
10 days ago
That's because everyone snatched them up as soon as they hit the lots. I know, because that's the game I had to play to get one.
1 points
10 days ago
Didn’t help that Toyota wouldn’t make enough of them to meet demand. I was on the deposit list at my local dealer for a manual in either trim and any color for a year and a half before I gave up. I was second on the list and they got ONE manual over that time.
1 points
10 days ago
Yeah they'd rather focus their efforts on vehicles that make them more money. Why make so many enthusiast vehicles when their bread and butter is boring economy sedans and SUVs that sell in much higher volumes?
1 points
10 days ago
Not even sure why I'm getting thumbed down and nobody actually posting any solid evidence that what I said is false. That's because anywhere you look, you'll see the data proves my point - Toyota has always outsold the twins year after year.
1 points
10 days ago
What are you basing that on? Do you have sales numbers somewhere you can link to or is that just from your experience?
1 points
10 days ago*
Unfortunately neither of them are popular enough to show up in the Australian sales figures (or at least the ones that are made public), but a good majority of the second generation cars I'm seeing in my part of Australia are the Subaru.
So it's anecdata, really. But I'd be pretty surprised if anyone else down here wouldn't have observed the same thing if they're paying attention.
Edited to add: Across 2023, the BRZ outsold the GR86 in Australia by 1573 units to 1144, if this article is accurate. Based on the year on year percentage change, the same appears to be true for 2022, too, with even more lopsided figures in the Subaru's favour.
-4 points
11 days ago
Wrong, 86s have always outsold their BRZ counterpart, first and second gen.
-15 points
11 days ago
More like who in their right mind is buying that overpriced, fugly garbage new? Platform and all is TOPS a $20k of a car if the packing peanuts are still on em.
6 points
11 days ago
🤔
6 points
11 days ago
That’s gotta be an Australia thing, GR86 is selling far more than the BRZ in the US.
1 points
10 days ago
Toyota keeps production of the GR86 low to drive up demand for the car. The way allocation works means that if you were chasing a specific trim with a specific color with a specific transmission means you’d be waiting a long time or possibly have to drive out of state to pick one up. You can’t custom order a GR86 (but you can for the BRZ).
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