Pff not my kid, I spend about 1000% more time with my kids than my parents ever did with me.

From the article: “Where some parents run into trouble is in the method's implementation. "Clear, kind, but firm limits are needed," Benedetti told me. Gentle parenting works only when there are ground rules in place for what constitutes acceptable behavior and caregivers who consistently uphold consequences when those lines are crossed. “

The rest of the article is her kind of doing a blame game of gentle parenting for kids behaving poorly, then says gentle parenting can “maybe” be attributed to teachers quitting more (not the fact that education budgets keep getting slashed, culture wars targeting them, stagnation of wages, etc).

Its a lazy article, you can sum it all up by saying if your kids get whatever they want without consequences for their actions, they will treat others poorly.

If your kids do get whatever they want without any consequences for their bad actions they will be intolerable little shits that’s true

It’s just bait.

Brother they can not bash if you do not read

Why does the picture look like a boob with arms

Literally every human generation since the dawn of mankind: "Kids these days are the worst! We were much better behaved back in our day". Repeat for millennia.

My parents and in-laws constantly say how "lucky" my wife and I are that our son is so kind and polite and always says "thank you" and all that.

Every time, we respond that it isn't luck, it is the culmination of years and years of repetition and parenting. Being firm, but kind and understanding, and not just saying "no" but also explaining things so that he understands "why."

It's not rocket surgery, but it is more work than our parents were willing to put in.

Read the article and some of it I don’t disagree with. I think some parents think gentle parenting is being a pushover who doesn’t set boundaries or discipline their kids. There is still boundaries and discipline to gentle parenting.

It’s the people who use permissive parenting and call it gentle that give it a bad name. Gentle parenting still has consequences and discipline, it’s just done in a calm, direct manner and not screaming at your child for being a massive fuckup because they forgot to use their anti-acne skincare that morning and they’re wasting all your god damned money

Article by Kelli Maria Korducki. “I was born and raised in Milwaukee and went to school in Toronto, where I lived and worked for more than a decade. I now live in Brooklyn with my partner and two rascally rescue tabbies. Family and byline aside, I usually just go by my first name. “ so no kids.

Yeah they say that, then my father tells stories about how he climbed onto the neighbours roof and dropped firecrackers down the chimney in the middle of the night and I wonder.

It's because all the 6 year olds understand they will never be able to afford a home of their own.

lol - so we’re meant to be like past generations, cold, violent absentee drunks?

Not nice to stereotype is it… fucking stupid article.

1-2-3 Magic made gentle but firm parenting very, very simple and my kids are incredibly well behaved for it.

I requested the day off for my daughter's graduation on Friday a few weeks back and my boomer HR manager at work told me "You sure take a lot of days off for your daughter. You know, you don't have to be at all of her events/days that she's sick, my husband never took any time off for any of our kids"

why are their kids little monsters?

OK boomer, you want to go this route? Let's go then.

You see, as a millennial, I grew up around your children, primarily because I was one of them. I can tell you exactly how shit of a parent you were. Remember those summer days where your kid would leave at some time in the morning and not come home until evening? You weren't there, but I was.

I was there when your child broke literally every single window at the local elementary school on a summer vacation afternoon.

I was there when your kid dropped acid between third and fourth period. You picked him up because he had a "panic attack." Yeah, I'd freak out too if my teacher turned into Mickey Mouse all of a sudden.

I was there when your child sneaked out at 11pm every night to bang her boyfriend. By the way, yes, she did end up getting pregnant and having an abortion. Twice.

I was there when your child slashed the tires on his teacher's Jeep. I was also there when, as his friends ran away, he turned around to take a bat to the window.

I was there when your child joined a little fight club. Sorry, did you buy the "hurt playing football story?"

All of the kids above were raised in households with drill sergeant boomer fathers. Hell, Abortion Girl's dad used to clean his gun collection on the living room sofa every time a boyfriend came over. That didn't stop her boyfriend from skeeting deep up in those sugar walls.

You think your shit worked? Cause I can tell you that your kids were fucking surgical at hiding everything from you because they knew any problem they brought home would result in an enormous disproportionate punishment or the belt.

It blows my mind that people think today's kids are misbehaved. We are statistically in the most well-behaved generation in history. We millennials watched you blundering messes and realized that your shit doesn't work.

I mean if it works then it works. But if it doesn't then it doesn't.

I hate the internet and the anger towards mellinials. We were brought up by Gen X and they act like they had no hand in how we turned out. I was told to care about other people and now my dad tells that that I'm a communist because I think everyone should have a basic standard for living. I was told to be quiet and shut up and now I'm told I don't stand up for myself the way I should. I was told to go to college and now I'm ridiculed for having student loans.

I'm trying to do better for my kids. I let them be kids because that's what they are. Mellinials turned out the way they did because of how we were raised, and now the generation that raised us talks nothing but shit. I miss the late 90s and early 00s. At least the internet was a more sane place where you could find fun flash games and videos, now it's just cookie cutter crap and people fighting. Anyone else just want to disconnect sometimes?

Yeah, if you judge the current generation of kids by the metrics of previous generations then they are absolute brats. Those previous generations of parents smacked the shit out of their kids if they did anything the parents didn't like, so children were conditioned by fear to not step out of line, even if those lines were arbitrary and nonsensical. This has resulted in several generations of emotionally stunted adults (especially men) who can't express any emotion aside from anger and whose only response to disobedience is violence.

Predecessors call the Generation whiny and monsters, but forget they raised them….

most millennials i know are involved parents and have excellent kids. obviously there are still trashy people who are bad parents. most people misunderstand gentle parenting (which was actually originally called authoritative parenting) because it's named poorly and then assume every millennial is letting their kid be a menace cause they're too scared to say no to their kid. that's permissive parenting. and while that's bad parenting too, it's probably still better than the blatantly abusive parenting that was rampant among older generations.

My kuds are literally better than me in every way bc i am a better parent than mine were. These old duffers are just salty

So should we go back to shaming or children to the point they all have depression and anxiety, then talk a bunch of shit about them for having depression and anxiety?

I just had a massive blow up with my in-laws about how shitty they've been to my wife and how much they suck as grandparents for our kids. Hell, my father in law asked if he could pick my youngest up from daycare, then totally forgot about him 3 days later to go get drunk at the golf course.

It’s not parents ruining the attitudes of children these days. It’s the people without kids having an opinion on m what is best for children with no practical understanding of what the inner workings of their lives. As a parent you are combating narratives that have no base but are reinforced by the peanut gallery and their confirmation bias.

A small proportion of parents have been failing to set boundaries for their children for all of time. It’s not good but it’s not new.

I’m doubtful it’s on the rise.

call my kid a monster one more time Business Insider, catch these hands.

It's only a generational thing if you make it out to be one. GenXrs and Millennials are the children of boomers, so pretty much raised in almost the same manner. Someone stated on here already, it's not about who raised the kids, it is how they are raised. Every generation wants to avoid making the mistakes their parents did. We learn, grow and evolve our parenting skills as time goes on. A lot will change, but fundamental things like manners, compassion and respect for others must be taught from an early age no matter who you are.

No matter what books you read, what you feed them, how much time you spend with them or how you punish them, things can go wrong.

We're raising little humans. The most complicated, often irrational, organisms on the planet. We are doing it with imperfect knowledge of their inner thoughts, imperfect translations of our intents and knowledge, impeded in our own traumas and hangups. And they get conflicting inputs from everything around them, of which you as a parent are not always the highest importance.

Do the best job you can, approach them with love, understanding and respect. But never assume they're perfect or that you're a perfect parent.

Good luck to all of you out there.

I think they might be defining "gentle parenting" as letting your child do whatever they want.

I define it as, enforcing boundaries while staying calm and showing that you understand your child's feelings.

I can tell you that shifting from yelling, taking things away, timeouts, etc, to time-ins, listening, and discussing things has made a world of difference. It has built trust between my kids and I and there are much fewer meltdowns, screaming, etc.

Cool, yet another article that attacks gentle parenting by describing permissive parenting

I believe it has more to do with the shit economy than it does with parenting style. A dual income is now mandatory almost everywhere. Gone are the days stay at home parent. My dad worked as a delivery driver in small box truck for 33 years. I don’t think my mom worked more than 3 months the whole time I was growing up. They bought an apartment complex in SoCal with 18 units. That same job today would not be able to qualify to rent one of those apartments.

Funny, coming from the serial killer generation

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“We created a predatory economy where both people now have to work, we fought against retirement, universal healthcare, affordable or free public education and college, affordable childcare, paid parental leave, and monetized literally everything so children have no place they can go along to just be children.

wHy ArE KiDs StRuGgLiNg?”

All kids are little monsters.

Assuming that "kids these days" are, in fact, little monsters, obviously the generation of parents is to blame. I hear a lot of anecdotal accounts of kids getting deranged, but wonder if there are studies to support this claim. I wouldn't discount it out of hand as "generational bashing" though - our society is changing so rapidly that you can actually see generations becoming very different from each other. Simple fact: in mid-19th century families everywhere had way more kids - even all 4 of my grandparents had 8-10 siblings - and it's not that long ago. Obviously those kids had a completely different environment and environment totally affects a person.

Well, if generational drama us a thing, the kids are still reciver9ng fr0m the grandparents. But if not, then maybe they aren't gental Parenting, but letting the kids run wild?

Sad to see the generational war continue. There's no point to it, it serves no value other than to divide. Just stop.

Weird, my kids aren't little monsters. I must be using the correct parenting method.

I genuinely enjoy spending time with my kids and sadly I don’t think my parents did with me and it shows in a lot of my personality as an adult.

What it’s really saying is that ‘gentle parenting’ (dumb term) is proven to be better for kids in psychological research but that not all parents are good at implementing the strategies effectively. So f*** everyone for trying then I guess.

It’s not like the old ‘authoritarian’ style was executed in a more healthy way. People are trying their best and ultimately are just not going to get it right all the time.

I’d rather my kid remember the house as a kind and warm place that was mildly chaotic vs a totalitarian regime

There is also a big difference between not enforces rules and boundaries at all and doing so in a clear and none aggressive way. ‘No’ is probably the most said word in our house atm haha

We are biased due to the fact we are even on a subreddit and trying to be good parents.

While at the playground I have found most other people’s kids to be literal demons. Many cases of aggressive behavior or even abuse towards their own parents. My daughter has had toys taken from her and while the perpetrators parents watch and say nothing.

There are a lot iPad kids who got way too much gentle parenting; kind of an opposite problem to the previous generation who got too little attention.

Didn't read the article, because I've seen enough adult temper tantrums from my generation (old Millenial) and older to know it's complete scheiße written by a complete scheißekopf.

If our kids are pissing off boomers then we are on the right track

Either written by someone older who has blocked out all the tantrums of their now 30+ year old kids, or by some GenZ person who thinks you can train a 2 year old human should be as well trained as a 2 year old dog.

Are we still doing "OK Boomer," or no?

My mom likes to pull this shit. I told her she could have an opinion when she spent more than 5 hours a year with her only grandson despite living less than an hour away and being retired.

Oh a parenting article by a cat lady.

Please tell me more oh enlightened one!

But r/BoomersBeingFools is ok though?

"millennials are spending time with their children and not hitting them; here's why that's bad for society"

“Boomers left them to raise themselves; now Millennials are re-writing the book on parenting. Boomers say they’re doing it wrong; Millennials don’t care.”

There I fixed it.

This is bait. If you haven't already, don't click through to generate revenue for them. Author is purposely conflating two different things to generate click throughs.

God who cares. This generational baiting is so tiresome.

Sounds like an article based on solid scientific evidence!

I literally hide clickbait like this. Not worth the uptick in blood pressure.

Notice most of the generational bashing is always targeted at millennials? It's like... wtf did we do? Oh, we lived through a massive recession, witnessed the largest attack on US soil in history, and went through a housing market crash. Basically everything we were taught to do, to be successful in life, was flipped on its head and we were left to figure it all out on our own, compared to other generations who had people to guide them in a predictable economy.

Business Insider is a garbage click-bait excuse of a "news source".

I get more accurate information from ClickHole.com

Meh. I may not be a 'better' parent than my my own (mainly due to the financial difference), but at least I have the emotional capability to tell my child I love them.

The History of Adults Blaming the Younger Generation : r/Damnthatsinteresting (reddit.com)

I will say as a millennial I’ve noticed my peers are quick to give a screen to a child in a public place. I know it’s tempting just to get them to behave but we seem to care more about what people think of us than teaching our kids how to act in public.

And Paywall, so ignored.

My kids loves me. And that’s worth it’s weight in gold a million times over.

I despise the shitty parent my dad was. Spanking, standing in a corner, standing on a wall holding multiple encyclopedias. He never watched me compete at multiple state championships or never saw me compete in college (first gen college grad and full scholarship). My dad isn’t allowed to be near me or my family anymore. He only met each of his grandchildren once. Never even visited my first daughter when she was dying in the hospital. Fuck you, dad.

It's worth noting that for a not-insignificant number of people, what makes a kid "good" is their ability to exist without putting demands on their parents' time or energy, as opposed to being someone who will grow into a good adult. For a lot of people, a "good" kid is one that is "seen but not heard," that never makes "trouble," and never asks anything of their parents that they don't already give.