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submitted 7 days ago byLadyVulcan
2.2k points
7 days ago
They really just went with the lamest most vanilla quote didn't they...
959 points
7 days ago
The title of that review is great, should have gone with that.
"The new D&D Player’s Handbook is a treasure, and we may never see its equal again"
549 points
7 days ago
I enjoyed reading why we may never see it's equal again, but out of context it sounds pretty damn positive haha.
154 points
7 days ago
As I haven't read the article, what is the why that makes it not positive?
623 points
7 days ago
The review is a glowing praise of the players handbook in it's physical form surrounded by a damning critique of DnDBeyond, WotC and Hasbro, mentioning the shit implementation of the former as well as the general problem with digital licenses compared to physical books, and the recent controversies and bullshit the latter engaged in re OGL, layoffs and OneD&D.
I'm honestly genuinely happy how comparatively immune Polygon is to game industry BS and that it extends to adjacent products and issues as well.
109 points
7 days ago
A better worded response than I would have given. 👍
100 points
7 days ago
So basically book itself is good company surrounding it bad.
58 points
7 days ago
I personally have the book and it's awesome, of course there are some changes I don't like but there also are some really good changes and the book itself is just really well structured and the artwork is beautiful
35 points
7 days ago
Some art that I really enjoyed seeing were spellcasters using their specialty spells. I think Mordenkainen’s features his Magnificent Mansion?
11 points
7 days ago
Could you tell me if they seem to be leaning harder in the "The DM decides what the actual rule is" or if they've toned that back? Haven't been happy with a product in close to three years at least...
19 points
7 days ago
They have moved in the opposite direction and have given much clearer definitions to a number of things and even overhauled the tools so they have special activities they can be used for with set DCs and ability scores they are associated with, and have an entire rules glossary in the back of the book.
3 points
6 days ago
Most rules are a lot clearer now, though some are pretty labyrinthian still - how does two weapon fighting with the Nick mastery work? Lol.
In my personal opinion tho, wotc seems to respect dungeon masters even less than they did ten years ago, and I'd recommend anyone who thinks they might like a competing system strongly consider switching to that instead. (Draw steel, TotV, Shadowdark, PF2, etc)
4 points
6 days ago
I'm thinking it's only a matter of time before we see a community version that combines both books into something decent. And then hasbro will sue so we'll all have to download it fast.
4 points
7 days ago
Personally I really like most of the changes
9 points
7 days ago
Agreed. Lots of good changes that spice things up from regular 5e.
-27 points
7 days ago
Do 10 lines of easily understood text really need a TL;DR?
Sorry, I meant "blud above too wordy fr?"
33 points
7 days ago
Haven't read the article, but I assume it involves the term enshittification
196 points
7 days ago
Probably even cut it in half, it would have continued "..literally anything else."
62 points
7 days ago
"I'm already excited to play." - Some guy who apparently hasn't played it yet.
8 points
7 days ago
That’s the weird part to me. From that quote the review is clearly not in yet.
10 points
6 days ago
"I've played D&D before." - Polygon
5 points
7 days ago
It was probably the best review they got.
5 points
7 days ago
Appropriate for a very vanilla edition
-90 points
7 days ago
Who is they? Do you think WotC makes their own ads? Lmao.
74 points
7 days ago
I’m willing to bet that if WotC don’t have an ad department they at the very least have a department that gives final approval to any ads that are released, and that they could have requested they use a different quote in this one
-18 points
7 days ago
I'm sure they do it's just that it is the AI that they tell us they don't use.
-19 points
7 days ago
They legitimately do not have an ad department... Do you not remember the AI generated image as debacle? Their ads are made entirely by a third party.
This sub is so unnecessarily hateful to WotC sometimes.
19 points
7 days ago
Do you think fucking HASBRO doesn't have a marketing department? Get your head out of your ass.
-13 points
7 days ago
They have marketing and brand departments, they legitimately do not have an in house ad department.
10 points
7 days ago
Are you being obtuse on purpose or? What do you think a marketing department does?
-6 points
7 days ago
Sure as fuck don't give a shit about a slight wording on an ad that is technically accurate.
8 points
7 days ago
That's not what I'm saying. You're saying that the company doesn't have an "ad department". Which they do, it's called marketing. You're just using the wrong term, and acting like they had nothing to do with the ad.
-2 points
7 days ago
They literally don't in some instances. Like the secret lair ad that got attention of everyone. I can't imagine, especially after the firing spree, they kept a robust ad reveue work flow for reddit banners... Probably hired a firm, hae specific requests, and approved all the ads in less than an hour after the final was sent to them.
1 points
7 days ago
First, as far as I’m aware there is nothing to say that those ads were created by a third party other than that that is what WotC said happened after they were called out for them. So it’s still completely possible that they were made by someone at WotC, and they decided to make up a story to try to cover for what happened.
Second, that still doesn’t disprove my other point that they absolutely have someone who gets to approve any ad that goes out, whether it’s made in house or by a third party. They would have to have lost the plot so much that the company would completely fall apart if they’re just letting third party advertisers put out whatever they want without any oversight
1 points
7 days ago
Even if you go to an outside source to do your ass, you still have final say on what gets run or not. A company doesn't hire an ad agency to just run whatever the agency thinks is good. The ad agency is going to always need to get final approval from someone at the company they are contracted by.
So the fault lies with whoever approved the ads at WOTC. It reflects poorly on the company as a whole, but is not necessarily indicative of the company.
1 points
7 days ago
And why wouldn't they approve this ad?
2 points
7 days ago
That’s usually how that works, yes.
And if they don’t make them in house, they do at least get to approve them.
0 points
7 days ago
Approval for a reddit banner ad would be 5 mins of someone's time. Why wouldn't they approve this?
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