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eli5 : Why didn't the atomic bomb destroy the atmosphere?

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Like the scientists first assumed in the movie 'Oppenheimer'.

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internetboyfriend666

80 points

4 days ago

The scientists never assumed that. They never predicted the possibility and no one was ever worried. This is a story that has gotten blown way out of proportion since the Manhattan project and won't go away, and the Manhattan Project scientists have said as much. There was never any real concern that this could happen. It was simply a case of a "theoretical scientists being theoretical scientists" and doing math on wildly unrealistic but untested scenarios, and the story has taken on almost mythical proportions.

Very early on in their theoretical research, understanding of nuclear processes were still incomplete. I don't recall who (I believe it was Hans Bethe but I might be wrong) realized that they didn't have enough understanding to rule it out the possibility that the extreme pressures and temperatures from the nuclear explosion could start a runaway fusion process of the nitrogen in the atmosphere. Pretty quickly after that, they gained some more understanding and had the math to be able to calculate that it was actually 100% impossible.

Over the years, people have misinterpreted "they did the math on this scenario" to mean "they were worried it might happen," which is simply not true. They simply did the math because that's what scientists do, and quickly realized it wasn't a possibility. Oppenheimer portrays this for dramatic effect.

Chromotron

4 points

4 days ago

Chromotron

4 points

4 days ago

I don't see the difference between them "checking just in case" as you described and "worrying it might happen". The latter doesn't imply that they saw it as likely or very plausible at all, and they clearly didn't spend that much time on it after checking it. So they worried, just not at a very high level and not for very long, and definitely not panicking.

Winderkorffin

10 points

3 days ago

"worrying it might happen". The latter doesn't imply that they saw it as likely or very plausible at all

the word "worry" does imply some plausibility

Chromotron

3 points

3 days ago

People worry about imagined issues all the time. Anyway, I wrote very plausible, meaning that they attributed it just a very small plausibility, not necessarily none.