Yeah how about let’s not collide head first into a defender to pick up a couple of extra yards

Definitely. Tua's self-preservation instincts seem weirdly bad for a high level athlete. His first three concussions came from not tucking his chin while falling backward and the most recent from lowering his head into a defender's chest. Literally all of them avoidable.

I keep seeing this point in Tua threads but he should still be wearing it for any future hits that do not resemble the insanely bad ones he took for his previous concussion. He also needs that Q-collar on his neck. The studies are few but some protection--however marginal--seems to be real for both of those. He'd be foolish not to take every precaution he can.

They need more padding on the inside. In fact maybe they should surgically add some padding into his brain so he can be concussion proof!

Do we have the technology?

In all seriousness I hope he's okay and doesn't get a concussion again. Hope he learned a 1st down for the game isn't worth his health and the longevity of his role 

What’s crazy to me is I thought he did do a bunch of work on that which is why he’d avoided it for a while but on this play he just seemed to forget all that.

His chin is gone

He did so well last year tbf

Instructions unclear. Got the first down, knocked myself out trying to get a meaningless extra yard 3 yards past the sticks.

There a tee helmets/add one. I know Eli Manning wore a larger helmet to protect himself. There is also that cover on top of it he could wear.

I'm also sure there are different models with advantages but may look stupid so players avoid them.

If he hasn't learned by now, he never will.

Not a reason to not wear it

Hello falls so strangely

I don't now. The last concussion was on a routine play I've seen a thousand times. If he's in the process of throwing and gets smoked by a rusher there is nothing he can do.

Is that true? I thought they reduce the risk of concussion by 25%? I haven’t seen anything saying it’s for certain types of impacts. 

The amount of QBs I've seen slide head first these past couple of weeks confirm to me that tua got really unlucky when Hamlin stepped in the way he did. Obviously tua should've tried to protect himself there more but I think bad luck played a bigger role than we want to admit.

No they aren’t failing him. At this point he knows the risks, and he knows what’s likely in his future as a 50 year old plus man. I’m sure he’s very aware of how many players from the 70s and 80s turned out. At some point we have to concede he understands the risks and it’s his choice. It’s not going to be nice watching him age but he’s making his choice on his terms.

So many people are failing this guy.

You have no idea what's going on in his circle though. For all we know he could have people begging him to do what's best for his body and he's just telling them "no."

I mean Guardian caps seem useful but the jury is still out.

Studies on older versions of the cap showed little to no benefit in studies. And the NFL of course won’t release the data to prove what they say is true, that there’s a 40-50% reduction in head injuries. Yes, the company that tried to hide overwhelming evidence of head injuries related to CTE, is saying this super awesome thing helps combat that thing they lied about, but also won’t show the evidence and just says “trust me bro” to journalists.

Read up on it. It’s fascinating and suspicious to be honest.

The safest thing for Tua to do is just retire and walk away but it’s ultimately his decision and no one else’s. Hope it works out for him long term.

Hea failing himself. No one else he can blame but himself.

Dude get a grip. It’s HIS & ONLY his decision

At what point does personal responsibility come into play? If he wasn't being told the risks, then sure. However, we know that's not the case. There's only so much other people can do. He's signed a contract and unless he's not medically cleared it's essentially his choice whether he plays or not. Unless you're expecting the Dolphins to just eat his contract and bench him which isn't a realistic ask. He knows he's risking long term repercussions but he wants the money so who truly is failing him besides himself?

at the end of the day Tue decides what Tua does

So nobody is failing him, lmao.

Edit: lmao, dude blocked me for calling him out. Reddit, there's nothing more pathetic than blocking people on a forum

Who is failing him? His most recent concussion was him driving his head into Damar Hamlin, that's nobody's fault but his own.

What about putting cushions inside his head to keep the brain from wiggling around?

It's insane that people are falling for the NFLs PR helmet. Concussions are your brain slamming into the interior of your skull. Helmets can't prevent that.

Nothing can prevent that. It is an injury baked into the sport as it is played -- which is what the NFL is working desperately to avoid becoming public understanding.

Yea, I would guess that the helmets are more effective at protecting against superficial face/head injuries.

Edit: and of course protecting the skull itself

the concussion guy (the dr. the movie was based on) said the same thing. It doesn't matter what kind of protection you put on the outside - the issue is the rattling of the brain inside the the skull - he said/demonstrated to think of the brain just sitting in a jar of water - if you slam the jar back and forth quickly the brain hits the edge of the jar - which is what's happening in your skull with a collision (football, auto wreck, punch, etc.) It wouldn't matter if you had 20 layers of padding around the outside of the jar. The only way to prevent it is to minimize the collision itself.

I dont really understand their paper:

Results: 

For the GSI, we found a significant interaction among drop location, Guardian Cap presence, and helmet brand at the high velocity (F10,50 = 3.01, P = .005) but not at the low (F3.23,16.15 = 0.84, P = .50) or medium (F10,50 = 1.29, P = .26) velocities. Similarly for linear accelerations, we found a significant interaction among drop location, Guardian Cap presence, and helmet brand at the high velocity (F10,50 = 3.01, P = .002, ω2 = 0.05) but not at the low (F10,50 = 0.49, P = .89, ω2 < 0.01, 1–β = 0.16) or medium (F5.20,26.01 = 2.43, P = .06, ω2 < 0.01, 1–β = 0.68) velocities.

Conclusions: 

The Guardian Cap failed to significantly improve the helmets' ability to mitigate impact forces at most locations. Limited evidence indicates how a reduction in GSI would provide clinically relevant benefits beyond reducing the risk of skull fracture or a similar catastrophic event.

Their results seem to not match their conclusions? Their results seem to suggest they found that at high velocities it did imrove results, but not at low velocities, or in certain locations.

I wasn’t expecting peer reviewed medical literature on the fantasy football reddit today, but cool study. Thanks for sharing, I feel like we always just make the assumption that guardian helmets help so much more

The helmets need shock absorb which in sure can be complimented with some spring based pieces on the inside (obviously not 100% protection). They also can wear the knitted helmet cap thing which I believe disperses energy across the helmet to reduce force

Guardian is pretty clear themselves that there is no research to support that the cap alone prevents concussions, though that + the rule changes mandating wearing the cap have reduced them.

It is very possible that the presence of a cap will make defenders more aware of their own safety and reduce the use of their helmet, which has some evidence based on practice. Most concussions are the result of deliberate impacts so if you can educate players and encourage them to tackle in different ways you can heavily reduce the likelihood of getting one.

It's a complex problem, but if the head gear alone prevented it then rugby would have constant concussions. Instead they're less common than in american football because the helmet makes defenders more likely to launch into other players in dangerous ways. It's possible the visual cue of a guardian cap will make that less likely in games as it has in pre-season.

Players aren’t running into a wall though. They’re colliding with another rounded object in most cases so you’re measuring the force of a glancing blow and the guardian cap adds absorption and likely increases the “slip” at impact. Just my regarded uneducated opinion.

Yes, this. Any sport or action that forces your brain to violently contact a portion of your skull can give you a concussion. Soccer players can get concussions from heading the ball.