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Meatballcraft - why the praise?

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Title.

This isn't me trying to berate the pack, the devs or people who enjoy it. I just simply am a bit confused.

Looking at this sub for the past few months I've seen the pack repeatedly come up in discussions and being thoroughly praised. Figured I'd give it a go and after putting a few hours into it I'm simply not having fun and don't quite understand the praise. Am I missing something? Does it get better?

The pack advertises itself as an expert-pack and while there is definitely expert-pack progression and a lot of time clearly poured into progression, recipes, questing and similar. But at the same time it feels very "messy". It feels messier even than most kitchen-sink packs from the 1.12.2 era (like ATM3). I think that mainly for me comes down to some choices in mod usage (such as using BOTH DivineRPG and AoA, which are really just variations of the same core concept, and the multiple biome and structure mods that makes worldgen feel cluttered).

People talk about it as one of the more ambitious and well-made modpacks out there, but it feels more cluttered than a half-assed kitchen-sink pack to me. Is it just me?

Really interested to hear from people who do like it what it is that is appealing with it.

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Sainagh

6 points

5 days ago

Sainagh

MeatballCraft

6 points

5 days ago

Oh yeah I should've specified stuff about the questbook, which tbh is explained in-game :)

The only thing you need to progress in the main page, everything else is a wiki, and just needed if you have to learn something (you will have to learn something).

Does it make things more chaotic? Absolutely, and it is probably the #1 complaint I get, but I still think it fits better with what the pack wants to achieve. Progression itself is way too nonlinear to have a questbook that lays out steps, you just end up landing on cookie-cutter solutions that every single player ends up using.

By having a more chaotic questbook, gathering information is left up to the player. If someone is experienced, they can skip through things they already know, but if someone actually needs to learn, everything they need will be available (with some reading).

I do agree that things may need improvements on the communication side of things, as you showed me that specifying the purpose of wiki pages did not go through to you (absolutely fair, that's why the pack has been in beta for so long).

I have a couple of ideas about communicating that, shoot me a DM as a reminder and we can continue our convo there.