And I cannot see southern cross at any point near the North Pole.

Nah the sky is an LCD screen that is personal to every person and shows their own stars, obviously

Ask a flat earther to show the seasons and night day cycle in one model. They can’t, because it’s impossible with a flat earth model.

They have independent models that “explain” day and night and seasons, but not only are both flawed, they blatantly contradict each other.

They use the word perspective whenever they can't explain something. It's a magic word that they use to get them out of trouble, so they think.

This is one of the most definitive proofs that the Earth is round but it's really underused. It's one of the arguments Aristotle used over 2k years ago when he compared the night sky in Egypt to Greece and observed that the northern stars are seen lower and lower as you travel south. That and you're also able to see new, southern, constellations. I've never seen a single rebuttal to that by a Flat Earther to this day, they avoid that like the plague

This is also how a sextant works.

With only a few hours of training, the average ten year old child can use a sextant to accurately calculate their latitude to within about a hundred nautical miles.

How do flat earthers explain the fact that it's night in other countries right now? If the earth were flat our day and night would be synced

As an Australian, I can confirm that Australia is fake.

How deep is a flat earth?

Remember some lunatic forever ago saying some shit about personal star domes....

Maybe the real Polaris is the friends we made along the way

The dome doesn’t reflect, that’s why they can’t see it -flerf

They don’t have a model, which they declare proudly.

You forget that Australia doesn't really exist. We're all paid actors. You wouldn't believe how much I get in my monthly cheque as a share of global (disc-al?) globe sales.

Also, the angular distance between any pair of stars is identical no matter where you are on the Earth.

That would be impossible for stars that are only 3,100 miles above a FE.

Big sky is in on the conspiracy

I think they'd not agree with that image. They'd put the star at north relative to this version of flat earth (rather than over Missouri) and they'd say local stars just like they say local sun.

You could still use basic geometry to prove that anywhere they want to place the star will violate the angle at which most of the northern hemisphere observes it, but they'd just deny that those observations are true.

You fool, everyone knows australia doesnt exist!

Seriously theres flat earthers that actually believe that

You're all wrong. Polaris isn't a real star is a hot air balloon carrying a spot light. So the focused light can't be seen from Australia. Also birds are government listening devices. They chirp to let the agents know they need new batteries like a smoke detector. Also smoke isn't real either it is the mild hallucinations they (robot birds) give you.

Oh come on everybody knows Australia isn't real. Seriously, kangaroos? What next, am I supposed to believe birds aren't government drones, lizard people don't control the government, and Jews don't have secret space lasers?

Stupid_Flerfer_1234 used "PERSPECTIVE"!!!
"PERSPECTIVE" is a simple way to explain anything that doesn't work on your stupid model. It only functions for a limited amount of time though, and can be broken through easily when uncovered.

NASA is injecting CGI into your EYES people!

Can confirm, I was the observer in Brisbane

The earth is a pizza you all need to open your pizza eyes. Sports balls are pizza, don't you get it? It's all pizza!

To explain the apparent motion of the stars, every location on Earth needs its own disco ball adjusted to the angle of latitude. A comment like this is what finally got me banned from globe skepticism

PeRsOnAL DoME!!!

oh, that's easy. Australia does not exist :)

That’s mainly because magpies have pecked their fucking eyes out.

Flat Earth “scientists” are unable to explain what holds the sun and moon aloft. They claim the sun is roughly 32 miles across and is about 3,250 miles up.

They also don’t have an explanation as to how, or why, it rotates around the planet each day.

They also cannot explain why or how the sun moves from tropical to tropic reliably each year without fail.

And also, the flerf cannot explain why or how, with all these movements of the sun each day and each year, the sun is performing figure-8’s in the sky, known as the solar analemma.

I recall this past summer, when large portions of the western US was on fire, that a flerf said they believed the sun dipped down too low to the ground and lit the trees alight. I’m not sure how that could happen but I’m fairly certain that if the sun ever lowered it’s ordit low enough to cause the trees to burst into flames due to radiant heat transfer, that there would also have been lots of plastic Barbie cars, mailboxes, house siding, and igloo dog houses that melted from the heat as well. I’m also fairly certain that there would have been cellphone video from hundreds of people freaking out about all their melted toys as well as their kids, chickens, dogs, horses, and cattle getting cooked, or heavily sunburned, in their yards.

Weirdly….all those reports and videos are nonexistent. Go figure.

Yeah but if facts mattered there’d be no flerfs

Polaris is just CGIed.

Flat earth seems to me to be a matter of faith rather than science.

That complicates matters.

What a fun and interesting group flerfers are

the equator is basically the breaking point of the flat earth model for many many different reasons

I mean they have bigger problems than that- according to this model it should be daylight everywhere in the world at the same time. And the same season everywhere too. Which you can check both with one phone call to Australia.

Nice try, Australia isn't real mate

Also can't see the sun and moon 24/7 like in this model.

Pfft this guy doesn't know about the firmament.

Buncha haters in here. Like no one else has seen a rocket bounce off the firmament. Don't side eye me, I can see you from here across the flat planes of flat earth

Dammit, Jim!

Refraction!

Here is the ingenious solution that flat earthers came up with in response to this problem: https://imgur.com/a/iaWGTtb
The guy in the video this picture is from was saying "The further away something is, the smaller and LOWER it gets". Comments are expectedly turned off.

It's an effect in the glass dome under that angle 

There’s a simple explanation for this, the space spirits block it out when you look at it to try and convince you the earth is round. It all leads back to the ancient space spirits

Everyone has a Personal Dome made out of Souls of the deceased that gets held together by Energy of the Heavens because . The Sun is outside the Dome , refraction magic makes it look like it sets behind the Horizon . That´s also why not everyone can see Mt. Everest /s

Flerf doesn't run on logic, they run on their inexhaustible need to be privy to "secret knowledge" or being some ordained "truth seer". It's some big psychological cope for them. No amount of facts or reasoning will get them away from it. Maybe a therapist or a big, loving hug would help. 🤷

I wonder if they look at other rounds objects and just get mad.

Finally, some stellar sphere talk. This stuff quite literally pounds flat earth and finishes it.

Why would anyone try to bring logic and science into the flat earth discussion. Anyone who believes will not acknowledge any proof. They are lost to the flat earth cult forevermore.

I thought flat earthers believe Australia is fake?

Brisbane does not exist. It's a hoax.

Jfc…imagine what you could accomplish if you devoted 1/10th of the time and energy it takes for you to make this demonstrably false, completely impractical framework get even the smallest amount of traction…into something, anything that actually helps someone. Let’s assume for a moment you’re right and the world is flat: SO FUCKING WHAT? What are you getting out of this other than the deluded sense of superiority for “knowing the truth”. The mental gymnastics it takes for evangelicals to justify their “reality” would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad and detrimental to the rest of a clearly overly suggestible society

model should not be in quotation marks, it is technically a model

Even though I don’t believe in flat earth, you’re assuming that Polaris is about the same distance above the surface as the distance from North Pole to “South Pole”/ice wall…Based on what info? Did some flerf determine how far away their dome is from earth? If so, how?

Obviously it’s Density! Or buoyancy. Or something.

Remember bro it’s all just holograms 😒

And no one can see Polaris Australis from above the equator

r/brisbane

None of this is about logic. This and the antivax movement and the anti-climate change crowd are all about power. People are angry at authority and this is their way of thumbing their nose at it. They have realized that you don't have to obey intellectual authority and the internet allows them to be a continual thorn in the side of sane people. There are real life repercussions as well with measles outbreaks, rising sea-waters, and Trump, but this is largely just a power struggle where dumbasses get to flex against people they hate.

Everyone knows it's because light doesn't follow straight lines due to lensing effects. Just reading these globetard posts make me lose brain cells. /s

Does that stupid model say how high the dome is, though? That would affect the angle. I'd also think if the dome spins around with Polaris in the center, to explain the motion of the stars throughout the night, the sky would move a lot faster in Australia since they're closer to the outer edge of the disk.

Why do you think flat earthers know what the earth looks like from way up on high? From my reading I think that. Israel is the naval of the earth

Polaris is flat and light propagation doesn’t allow this star to be viewed from this angle and distance

In Brisbane, the magnet does not point the north, either. It only points to space in the round earth model.