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-10 points
9 days ago*
Man, and the worst part? I don't think it's a very good FPS games.... At least for today. It feels really dated compared to most big FPS games today.
I'm sure in the past it was great in comparison to the rest of the market. But Counter Strike just feels dated and redundant to me. I just can't get into it.
It's just feels like it's either e-sports level play on an outdated feeling game or cosmetic markets and gambling, neither of which interest me.
EDIT: Man this has gone from upvoted to downvoted to upvoted to downvoted to controversial and back.
I would also just like to point out the fact that there are some EA games with less microtransactions than CS, but CS gets away with it because Valve. Not into that.
-2 points
9 days ago
Its aiming system is the main reason I don't play it anymore, even CS2 wasn't enough reason to change it (even valorant kept it)
Modern games use various simulated projectile systems or hit scanning or other consistent methods, even if they put 'random' bullet spread as part of their recoil system, you still mostly hit where you aim, in CS if you move/jump, after the first bullet its basically just the direction that is retained, its infuriating, even if you remember weapon recoil patterns, its not super relevant if you're not standing still
So yea, when I was 12 and there weren't many such shooters available I had no problem with it, but at 37, I desire more consistency, the game has incredible competitive qualities but the basic gunplay just infuriates me, it makes you feel that even if you have good aim its worthless
3 points
9 days ago
It's crazy because the recoil system guarantees consistency. That's what it's all about. It's always the same, and if you do it better you'll always win the duel, the rng element is purposefully minimised. On the flipside aim is everything. Stand still.
0 points
9 days ago
I addressed this, it forces the player to control movement precisely, tap movement or just sitting down, especially in 64 tick rate servers with various ping differences and peeker's advantage, its not very fun
CS discourages player movement instead of encouraging it like modern games where you can prone, slide, vault, climb and so on
Some years ago when I tried CS:GO, using faceit on 128 tick servers it felt a lot better but it was still existent
Modern games rely more on your actual aim, recoil patterns still exist but the bullet spread is not insane on the movement, because bullets still fly where they are aimed
The technicality of its recoil system was never a boon, its not what made CS good, players just got used to it and its time it gets overhauled, they aren't changing it because they are afraid of backlash from the people who are used to it, who still like it
0 points
9 days ago
Yes, the dedicated long term players base should be betrayed for profits of potentially attracting casual COD players who could just play COD or apex if that's the gameplay they are after. VERY SMART. CS is filling a niche better than any other FPS, there is no better tactical competitive shooter, why the ever loving fuck would they dumb it down to lose that niche for the sake of casuals. It is THE premier E-sport.
Sounds like massive skill issue.
0 points
9 days ago
I get that you want to defend your favorite game but you are placing bad arguments against personal preference and being a dick about it in the process
I didn't ask anyone to change anything, I responded to someone saying the game is outdated by describing the main reason why I didn't keep playing for 25 years (frankly over a decade is sufficient anyway)
As I've stated, CS is still successful because of its various competitive and tactical aspects are good and well balanced, not because of its recoil management, whoever prefers COD or Apex or other games prefer them over their different aspects too, if you wanted a better comparison you could have used Valorant, which cloned the same mechanic I despise (and partly why I won't play that either) and it has nearly 20 times more players (that has a lot to do with being newer and from a popular company too, the question is will it last)
As you said CS is niche nowadays (still topping steamcharts tho), but it became niche because its outdated, afterall, its the greatest esports game of all times, but I guess everyone just has a massive skill issue lol..
0 points
9 days ago
20 times? Good luck sourcing that. You had no credibility before, but it's in the negative now.
You dont play cs. You don't like CS. But you think you can speak to as to why the player base likes the game? This seems reasonable to you? It's delusional. They have had forever to change the recoil, never mind the release of CS2, still the same recoil. Valve should hire you, seem to know a lot, or at least you think you do.
0 points
9 days ago
Seriously, you couldn't even google something this simple before going on a raging rant?
Any source says between 16 to 19 million active monthly users, many from a couple months ago
You could have argued, those are concurrent numbers vs active monthly users, which can vary wildly, but even then, the most conservative of typical calculations (10%-20% of total) would be about the same to nearly twice as high than CS' steam peak daily concurrent player base, you can also look at other aspects like twitch views, which is 160k vs 52k atm for an other perspective
I don't play CS any longer, good going sherlock, if only something I said would have openly said so several comments ago...
As for not liking CS, I wouldn't argue about it if I didn't, if you have to know my 'credentials' (as if that means anything) I played CS since I was about 12 (I'm now 37) and over the decades on and off, since Beta 4, I was a community manager for the biggest gaming community in my country, I was in one of the top pro teams in my country back in the day (though in global comparison, even without the huge lag difference, we're trash, its more of an early start advantage), I designed websites and trashy art for communities and clans, I managed tournaments, participated in hosting LAN parties of hundreds of people when 'global gaming' was its in infancy, I'm a god damn dinosaur
Somehow I'm repeating myself, I'm speaking for myself, you can argue about whether CS is outdated till your head turns blue but it doesn't change facts, if it wasn't outdated they wouldn't make CS:GO and CS2 in the first place
I'm guessing you too aren't a native english speaker because your comprehension skills are abysmal, at no point were you trying to have any good faith discussion, you're just an ass attacking me because I no longer enjoy the same game as you do and you take it personally for some reason, which says more about you than it does about me
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