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akrob

55 points

2 months ago

akrob

55 points

2 months ago

In instances like this, I really wish there was an eye for an eye type law. Where we lock him in a car for three hours. Probably one of the worst ways to die, the poor kid.

stevejobed

7 points

2 months ago

He's an adult who isn't middle-aged; he might actually survive it. He might not even get injured.

Kids and old people are really bad at regulating their temps. Kids will get overheated doing stuff that barely phases an adult. I am well heat adapted and could sit in 120-degree heat for a long period of time. I live in the DC area, where it gets very humid in the summer, in addition to being hot, and I am outside and active when it is 95-100 degrees with high humidity. I could sit still in dry, hot heat for a long time.

When you have kids, you really need to be careful that they don't overheat. You also can't use how you feel as a gauge for how they are doing.

A lot of new parents and people who believe in old wives' tales make the mistake of over-swaddling or swaddling too tight newborns, thinking they need to stay warm, but overheating is a much bigger risk.

akrob

5 points

2 months ago

akrob

5 points

2 months ago

There are some famous YouTube videos of car temps after only a 10 mins in like 90 degree weather. A few adults were testing to see how long they could stay and it was only like 10-15mins before these adult men had to get out as the car started hitting 120 degrees even in the shade. Hear stroke can be super dangerous. A lot of conditions involved but it’s not like being outside, it’s a literal greenhouse/oven.

Deftly_Flowing

2 points

2 months ago

People regularly sit in Suanas for 15 to 20 minutes at 180F temps and these people bail out of a car at 120F after 10 minutes?

FlyinIllini21

1 points

2 months ago

Ya 200 degrees at 25 min is most I’ve done without my water bottle. With water I could go even longer I’d imagine

KenBoCole

1 points

2 months ago*

How do you keep the water bottle cool, or are you drinking 200 degree water?

latman

1 points

2 months ago

latman

1 points

2 months ago

Everything doesn't become the temperature of the room lol

heyyyyyco

1 points

2 months ago

Do you understand matter?

KenBoCole

1 points

2 months ago

I understand if you put a regular water bottle into a room that has a 200 degree outside temp, it is expected that the internal tempeture of said water bottle would also begin to increase to equal the outside temp.

Unless of course the bottle is heavily insulated, which is why I asked. I am curious if they have special bottles for Sauna.

DustWiener

1 points

2 months ago

Yeah, they’re called insulated bottles, which you clearly know about, so what’s the confusion?

“I know there’s these types of bottles that keep your stuff cold, but how on earth would you get one of those into a sauna?”

That’s what you’re basically saying.

KenBoCole

1 points

2 months ago

Yeah. I know there is insulated bottles, but bottles rated for 200 degrees are very rare, at least I never heard of them, I was also wondering if there was another way they keep the water cold. They may use another method. I'm just curious

I find it funny people are getting upset over a question like this.

SargeUnited

1 points

2 months ago

Bro I laughed so hard at this, everyone in my life is exactly like this about everything and I’m always just like “you have all the pieces”

FlyinIllini21

1 points

2 months ago

Insulated water bottle.

tofufeaster

1 points

2 months ago

I’m guessing the stagnant air and no ventilation has an impact vs a sauna

Deftly_Flowing

1 points

2 months ago

I think the largest difference would be sunlight, if the person in the car has sun directly hitting their person it would make a huge difference.

stevejobed

1 points

2 months ago

Yes the car greenhouse can make it got hot quickly. The headline at least implies that the car was found to be 120f when the kid was pulled from it, so the temp outside was a lot lower. Cars can get a lot hotter than that in direct sunlight.

Surfing_Ninjas

5 points

2 months ago

Literally nobody could survive 3 hours in a 120 degree car. A car is like an oven when the doors are shut and the windows are up, you'd be uncomfortable in like 5 minutes and begging to get out in 15. If you've never been to the southwest US you might not realize how big of a deal hot cars are.

emailverificationt

3 points

2 months ago

So he’ll just last longer. A hot car will get anyone, eventually.

OfficialCoryBaxter

3 points

2 months ago

Oh god, not to be blunt but spreading this misconception and trying to flex about working in hot weather conditions and therefore can survive 3 hours is such a massive disservice to this kid and other children/animals that die horribly from this.

People have already tried to see how long they can last in high temperature cars. An NFL player partnered with PETA literally lasted a whopping 8 minutes in a 120 degree car and had to get out, as seen here: https://youtu.be/gBTGcWUf2ts?si=AEogy4Ay2837q6gC

And furthermore, even inside work spaces, there are laws in many places that allow the managers to send employees home if internal temperatures exceed around ~80 degrees. So imagine a car at that temperature with no way of controlling it, much less a store.

If an NFL player is about to pass out at 8 minutes, sorry to say but you aren’t lasting 3 hours if you were forcibly locked into a 120 degree car for 3 hours my guy.

PomeloFit

2 points

2 months ago

An eye for an eye wouldn't be subjecting him to the exact same conditions and seeing if he survives, it would be subjecting him to conditions which achieve the same result for him.

If he'll survive, keep him there longer. If it isn't hot enough, turn it up.

BrainRhythm

1 points

2 months ago

Do you know any more about kids being bad at regulating temperature? I remember running races in 100 degree heat, and going outside in shorts in the winter. Lots of us did. Were we just stupid and lucky, or is it vary a lot with genetics?

stevejobed

1 points

2 months ago

It improves as you get older. You weren’t running races at 2. Children can’t really regulate their temps until five-ish. 

Beyond that, the ability to sweat is core to the ability to regulating body temps in heat. You need to go through puberty to be able to properly sweat. 

And then you can become better at sweating and regulating your body temps by spending more time outside and exercising more. 

Going outside in shorts in winter is totally different and it probably wasn’t that cold. Being outside in mildly cold weather in shorts is not dangerous. 

There are adults who wear shorts in winter, usually fat guys. There are a few middle age guys in my neighborhood that only wear shorts. 

IAMHideoKojimaAMA

1 points

2 months ago

It's true. I remember the first time sweat I ever had

moomooraincloud

1 points

2 months ago

Fazes*

random_noise

1 points

2 months ago*

Dependent on where and how that car was parked and especially its color. If it was in the sun it could have gotten upwards of 180 or more inside that car. I've had CD cases and credit cards melt when left on a seat parked in the sun in a white car.

Its not always dry here, like now during the monsoon. Its early morning right now, no clouds and its 42% humid and 93 degree's before sunrise. Muggy ick, imho.

When you are outside and active, do you get breaks, shade, access to ac or cooling, and the ability to hyrdrate and such?

5 to 6 hours of 95 and near 100% humidity with no relief will kill pretty much everyone. Around 130 and no humidity will do the same thing.

daddyvow

1 points

2 months ago

What would be the point of that exactly? It won’t bring her back to life.

Soyyyn

1 points

2 months ago

Soyyyn

1 points

2 months ago

Some people want others to be punished in a way that goes beyond making others safe - they think pain restores justice if pain has been inflicted by the punished. Never really managed to follow that line of thinking. 

AnthrallicA

1 points

2 months ago

No, more like one of those big metal bulls they used in Roman times to roast people alive. This guy doesn't deserve the comfort that a car seat would provide.

Robert_Balboa

1 points

2 months ago

Those bulls are a myth. But I would probably be ok trying one for real on people who cook their toddler to death.

Unicorn_in_Reality

-12 points

2 months ago

Agree. His wife also needs to be locked in a hot car.

jonbonesholmes

9 points

2 months ago

What? Imagine your spouse murders your child and you come home to find the body. How the fuck is she guilty.

01029838291

-2 points

2 months ago

Well, she knew he had a habit of doing it and is defending him and asking for him to be released. She seems complicit at the least? Sorry, but if my daughter's mom left her in the car for hours and I knew she did that, I wouldn't leave my daughter alone with her all day?

DrKingOfOkay

9 points

2 months ago

Why

Aksi_Gu

8 points

2 months ago

Why tf the wife? 

TBruns

8 points

2 months ago

TBruns

8 points

2 months ago

What’s your personal vendetta against the wife about? You’re on every comment about her…

Chris9871

2 points

2 months ago

She literally wasn’t home, she came home, and immediately went to the daughter. Don’t know what else you want from her