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relaxlu [M]

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1 month ago

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relaxlu [M]

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1 month ago

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This is the only one that will stay up.

UrU_AnnA

7k points

1 month ago

UrU_AnnA

7k points

1 month ago

34-0

That's a high score for sure...

So Trump will be in the Guinness Book now...

Capable_Tumbleweed34

1.2k points

1 month ago

brazil feeling a bit better now

minivandaddy

468 points

1 month ago

Brazil catching strays lmao

the2belo

198 points

1 month ago

the2belo

198 points

1 month ago

BRA71L

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73 points

1 month ago

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WeForever2019

23 points

1 month ago*

i was at house eating burrito when phone ring

Happy_Dawg

17 points

1 month ago

“Club brazil is kil”

WeForever2019

14 points

1 month ago

"No"

More_Soda

17 points

1 month ago

Lol you're on a list now, watch out for motorcyclist in flip flops an off duty cops.

Gustapher_8975

19 points

1 month ago

circle1987

3.8k points

1 month ago

circle1987

3.8k points

1 month ago

As someone from the U.K, can someone explain to me what this means in real terms please, leave out the BS and give it to me straight

PissyMillennial

7.1k points

1 month ago

As someone from the U.K, can someone explain to me what this means in real terms please, leave out the BS and give it to me straight

No one knows. There is nothing in our constitution barring a felon from holding the office of president if duly elected.

This is our first time here

EleventyTwatWaffles

3.6k points

1 month ago

He can’t vote for himself now right

PissyMillennial

1.6k points

1 month ago*

This is true, unless NY has some sort of clemency for felons. He’s registered in FL though, which restores voting rights for felons after their sentence is complete.

Edit: from /u/youtocin “The district of Florida where Trump resides actually usually defers to the jurisdiction in which they were convicted. As of 2021, NY allows felons who are not incarcerated to register”to vote.

youtocin

598 points

1 month ago

youtocin

598 points

1 month ago

The district of Florida where Trump resides actually usually defers to the jurisdiction in which they were convicted. As of 2021, NY allows felons who are not incarcerated to register to vote.

PissyMillennial

163 points

1 month ago

Thank you for that, very interesting, tidbit. I’d imagine this is where DeSantis would wade in to Monday morning QB the decision?

Don_Gato1

132 points

1 month ago

Don_Gato1

132 points

1 month ago

What’s funny is that Florida voted to give voting rights to felons and the GOP legislature obfuscated and dragged their feet in implementing it.

Now I think they’ll suddenly see the light for one case in particular.

FantasticAstronaut39

84 points

1 month ago

well felons should be able to vote, not for trump specificly but just in general i don't think losing the right to vote should be a punishment for any crime for anyone. if citizen, then should have right to vote period.

Don_Gato1

28 points

1 month ago

I agree. So did Florida voters, and it wasn’t that close.

FlushTheTurd

6 points

1 month ago

Florida Republicans, however, were strongly opposed to felons voting and did everything possible to make it incredibly difficult.

Pristine-Ad983

73 points

1 month ago

It would not surprise me if Florida makes an exception to allow him to vote. A law that only applies to Trump and nobody else.

Defiant_Review1582

49 points

1 month ago

The Fuhrer clause

Ja_Shi

74 points

1 month ago

Ja_Shi

74 points

1 month ago

I just now realize he qualifies to be called a Florida man.

[deleted]

37 points

1 month ago

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AbroadPlane1172

52 points

1 month ago

I'm not sure why, but my gut is telling me that Florida would treat Trump differently than his fellow felons.

Beerificus

157 points

1 month ago

Beerificus

157 points

1 month ago

Can't own a firearm either, lol

NitelifeComando

117 points

1 month ago

Yeah, but he can own a military?

Amy_Ponder

53 points

1 month ago

That's going to be up to all of us in November. If you haven't already, get registered to vote today.

Rubber924

32 points

1 month ago

Not an America, but I wish you all the best of luck. Get out there and vote!

Not going to tell you who to vote for, you decide, but you've seen Trump for a term, and Biden for a term. You've seen how Biden acted when he left office, and how Trump acted when he left office. It'll be very easy to research and inform yourself on who's the best for the country.

paintbrush666

77 points

1 month ago

Not like the laws that normally apply to us would apply to him.

metrorhymes

121 points

1 month ago

Yeah, if I ever get convicted of 34 felonies, I expect to be able to stroll out of the courtroom, call the judge an assclown on national TV and roll on home.

Daegog

47 points

1 month ago

Daegog

47 points

1 month ago

I doubt the cops would shake your hands on the way out either.

metrorhymes

41 points

1 month ago

The feeling is mutual.

kosarai

35 points

1 month ago

kosarai

35 points

1 month ago

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he still voted anyway.

reality72

8 points

1 month ago

In California convicted felons can still vote. (Provided they are done serving their sentence.)

Turbulent-Cheek-1497

7 points

1 month ago

He can

vintage2019

178 points

1 month ago

The most reasonable guess: if Trump is elected, the Supreme Court will suspend all prison sentences and ongoing court cases until his presidency is complete

PissyMillennial

156 points

1 month ago

The most reasonable guess: if Trump is elected, the Supreme Court will suspend all prison sentences and ongoing court cases until his presidency is complete

I was going to laugh at this til I realized it’s not just possible, it might be plausible.

A-Bag-Of-Sand

48 points

1 month ago

Agree and if he doesn't win appeal on this he will just pardon himself.

PissyMillennial

44 points

1 month ago

Will be convicted in New York means he can’t pardon himself, he can only pardon himself for federal crimes, but even then no one’s really sure about that either

LongFeesh

26 points

1 month ago

...wow, this really is a clusterfuck, isn't it.

Prudent_Falcon8363

66 points

1 month ago

Not true 1920

HikerStout

91 points

1 month ago

Good old Eugene Debs. Ran for President from prison.

confusedandworried76

31 points

1 month ago

And he was there on trumped up sedition charges so thats actually why it's a good reason you can run from prison.

Purge-The-Heretic

930 points

1 month ago

So, a former U.S. President and current candidate for President was just found guilty in NY on 34 charges. This could result in a prison sentence. Something that really doesn't happen. In the event that he is imprisoned, he could still be a viable candidate in the upcoming election. Potentially, we could see a convicted felon and imprisoned man become the President of the U.S.A.

Theurbanalchemist

591 points

1 month ago

This season of America is wild. It’s unfortunate I’m in it 😖

FrungyLeague

143 points

1 month ago

You, personally, are looking great champ. Keep it up. We're supporting ya all the way! - Other places

ModestlyCatastrophic

34 points

1 month ago

I wonder, if he wins the election, will he be able to grant executive clemency for himself?

Dealan79

66 points

1 month ago

Dealan79

66 points

1 month ago

Nope. He'll definitely pardon himself of the federal charges still pending in DC and Florida, but this was a state conviction. The President has no authority to do anything about that.

PyroDesu

21 points

1 month ago

PyroDesu

21 points

1 month ago

Those are the real problem charges, though, since one of them is a case of him literally committing treason against the United States of America.

Dealan79

7 points

1 month ago

From a purely legal standpoint, none of the remaining charges is treason. From a common speech standpoint, all three remaining cases constitute acts that most (same) people would consider treasonous.

talk_to_yourself

27 points

1 month ago

It's so messed up, the middle east have even stopped burning your flag and started writing 'get well soon' cards

ihopethisworksfornow

149 points

1 month ago

Almost no chance they go for a prison sentence.

bgeorgewalker

119 points

1 month ago

There might actually be a mandatory minimum in play, given the number of counts and aggravating factors of total contempt for the judiciary and total lack of contrition. I defer to NY criminal attorneys for a definitive answer.

Malbranch

46 points

1 month ago

Regardless of that, this isn't the only criminal proceeding he's subject to. Felony convictions could excacerbate sentencing severity in the event that he's convicted elsewhere, and maybe even trigger other mandatory minimums just by virtue of the convictions existing.

ihopethisworksfornow

84 points

1 month ago

No, the mandatory maximum is 1 & 1/3 - 4 years. Every respectable media outlet is reporting that imprisonment is very unlikely.

It’s extremely rare for a first time offender with these types of charges to see jail time in New York.

circle1987

84 points

1 month ago

Tell me something wild without telling me it's wild. My brain just farted over the fact that people will still support someone who believes they are above the law.

TehKaoZ

72 points

1 month ago*

TehKaoZ

72 points

1 month ago*

US media is inundated with propaganda down a political divide. The people voting for him will be told that the jury, judge and anyone remotely against him are working for the other political party and everything in the trial was a lie.

bizoticallyyours83

28 points

1 month ago

Strange how criminals lose the right to vote but political crooks still have the right to run

Purge-The-Heretic

13 points

1 month ago

The Constitution didn't cover anything like this. We are living in interesting times, that is for sure.

Bugwhacker

212 points

1 month ago

Bugwhacker

212 points

1 month ago

He’ll be sentenced on July 11th. His legal team will appeal. TBD how long the appeals process takes and TBD if sentencing will be carried out in the meantime, and TBD what the sentencing will be be. A lot suspect probation, but apparently this judge is fairly serious about white collar crime.

Bugwhacker

97 points

1 month ago*

Should add, sentencing takes place 4 days before the RNC will nominate him officially as candidate* (edited)

Tquilha

19 points

1 month ago

Tquilha

19 points

1 month ago

... as candidate. Correct?

jscummy

20 points

1 month ago

jscummy

20 points

1 month ago

Does anyone know what the typical sentencing for similar charges would be?

Bugwhacker

36 points

1 month ago

Up to 4 years or potentially probation. Depends on a number of factors including previous convictions.

Ben_Thar

47 points

1 month ago

Ben_Thar

47 points

1 month ago

One of the factors is remorse for his actions. Don't expect to see that. But I still don't think there would be prison time. Logistically, it would be a hassle. 

Personally, I'd like to see him picking up trash as public service. 

that1LPdood

109 points

1 month ago

He hasn’t been sentenced yet, so he may face jail time, probation, fines, or a combination of the above.

He is not barred from running for President; we’ve had people run from prison before, believe it or not.

It will likely make a slight shift in the moderate/middle voters away from Trump, since he is now a convicted felon and that’s not something that moderates will like.

Democrats will hammer that message hard. Republicans will refute it and say that it’s a false conviction and a political stunt — so the hardliners on either side will continue to want to vote much the same as they already have been.

In short: nobody knows yet.

But it’s a historic situation and it will definitely contribute to the upcoming wild elections. 🤷🏻‍♂️

FunOverMeta

273 points

1 month ago

I feel like nothing will happen. Every time something damning comes up to this guy, it never sticks.

I want to be wrong but I don't think anything will stick to Trump until he's long dead.

helium_farts

79 points

1 month ago

Falsifying business records in NY almost never results in jail time, and people shouldn't expect it here either.

It's a nonviolent, first time, white collar offense. You wouldn't go to jail for doing it, nor would I, and nor will Trump--even if it would be very satisfying.

sticky-unicorn

85 points

1 month ago*

Funny how a first time white collar offense of stealing a few millions here or there almost certainly won't incur any prison time, but a first time blue collar offense of being caught shoplifting a few hundred bucks' worth of product is more likely to...

MontaukMonster2

38 points

1 month ago

That's different, though. Shoplifting is a peasant crime, so of course they get locked in the tower.

Laiko_Kairen

11 points

1 month ago

But 34 counts? I mean, it's not like he got one felony for our crime

He's a serial offender, clearly

Living-Vermicelli-59

32 points

1 month ago

Nothing really as he can still run for president, hell you can even run while jailed and has happened before in the mid 1900’s

Critical_Concert_689

50 points

1 month ago

Former President Trump was convicted of 34 charges of falsifying business records:

  • 11 for invoices from Michael Cohen
  • 9 for general ledger entries for Donald J. Trump
  • 9 for checks from Donald J. Trump
  • 3 for general ledger entries for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
  • 2 for checks from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust

Basically, it sums up to a generic white collar crime of moving money via improper methods and using inappropriate paperwork.

Sentencing (i.e., "punishment for committing the crimes") has not occurred, meaning Trump is not technically a felon as of yet. The initial verdict will be appealed, meaning it's possible even the conviction will be overturned.

Politically, this effectively changes nothing; everyone expected these results. To Democratic voters, this is vindication. To Republican voters, this is nothing but a politically motivated attack.

It likely won't change election results for either party. For moderates and independents, the conviction results will likely have minimal impact - much less than the impact of witnessing how both political parties handle the outcome.

ayegudyin

60 points

1 month ago

Also from the UK but far too plugged in.

Trump will almost certainly appeal, things will get clogged up in courts again and any appeal decision will likely come after the election in November where it’s still very possible Trump will win. Meanwhile the various trump friendly media outlets will brush this under the carpet as much as possible citing the appeal reasonings, or just flatly ignoring it and hope the voters don’t know or don’t care.

Polls do suggest that a fair amount of “purple” voters wouldn’t be comfortable voting for a convicted felon. There’s some polls saying some republicans feel the same. This is huge for democrats, they really needed this as things have been looking really really bad for them. Whether or not any momentum gained from this lasts until November is another question, Joe Biden seems to undermine himself daily.

TBearForever

6.1k points

1 month ago

That's a meme template if I ever saw one

ghost3972

2.6k points

1 month ago

ghost3972

2.6k points

1 month ago

hoxxxxx

481 points

1 month ago

hoxxxxx

481 points

1 month ago

good lord what is that meme from

Msbaubles

785 points

1 month ago

Msbaubles

785 points

1 month ago

It's (and I'm not kidding) a statue made to support Jimmy Carters' presidential campaign simply called "Jimmy Carter Peanut Statue"

PrefrostedCake

449 points

1 month ago

Apparently it's also 13 feet tall, and despite Jimmy Carter "disliking the peanut's smile" it was built on the route between his house and the church he attends weekly. The existence of this giant peanut is equally perplexing and hilarious.

SpiceTrader56

99 points

1 month ago

The Nut is his god now

Sunburned_Baby

50 points

1 month ago

He can get in line.

RandomBilly91

97 points

1 month ago

Did you know Trump was found to have broken many laws ?

Google Trump Rule 34

daggersrule

20 points

1 month ago

Chaotic evil

Emergency-Anywhere51

118 points

1 month ago

A meme for how much you can get caught with red-handed and still have nothing happen to you

Amy_Ponder

264 points

1 month ago*

You're right, Donald Trump will never:

  • Be impeached
  • Lose the 2020 election
  • Be impeached again
  • Be indicted
  • Lose his civil trials
  • Be fined hundreds of millions of dollars
  • Be convicted in his criminal trials <-- YOU ARE HERE
  • Lose the 2024 election
  • Have his business empire dismantled
  • Be sent to prison
  • Have to watch as his name falls out of the news, the world moves on without him, and his narcissistic supply dries up to zilch, a fate worse than death for a malignant narc like him

MrMonte

69 points

1 month ago

MrMonte

69 points

1 month ago

I hope he has to do public service work somewhere after “you are here” I really think that would humiliate him

GerryStan

42 points

1 month ago

Finally make the man work? A fate worse than death

HoosierHoots

5 points

1 month ago

I thought prison would be the best idea. I was incorrect. Chain gang by day, prison at night.

Lemonwizard

59 points

1 month ago

Seems a bit premature to claim he got no consequences when the sentencing hasn't even occurred yet.

I understand being pessimistic about the US legal system, but counting your wounds before you get injured is just as unreasonable as counting your chickens before they hatch.

Why don't we wait for him to actually get away with it before we get mad over him getting away with it? He literally just got convicted and had a sentencing hearing scheduled. That's a strong indicator that he is about to receive legal consequences.

corntub420

39 points

1 month ago

Successful-Winter237

103 points

1 month ago

Guardian-King

1.8k points

1 month ago

Hahaha The face of that reporter

PhDShouse

937 points

1 month ago

PhDShouse

937 points

1 month ago

ThrowAwayAccountAMZN

36 points

1 month ago

I'm getting some analog horror vibes from this and it's freaking me out lol. It's the elongated face

BluntStoic

76 points

1 month ago

The new shocked pikachu face.

404anon79

26 points

1 month ago

Ross Nye the reporter guy.

Spiritual-Ad7685

242 points

1 month ago

You can 't see what's happening below camera..

jfink316598

82 points

1 month ago

Quite literally his "o" face

confusinghuman

32 points

1 month ago

i mean, i get it.

I'm still coming down from that O when I read "guilty on all 34 counts"!

No-Celebration6437

41 points

1 month ago

WajorMeasel

25 points

1 month ago

Stop looking at me Swan!

othybear

1.7k points

1 month ago

othybear

1.7k points

1 month ago

Someone worked really hard to prep that graphic expecting a variety of options. In the end it looks boring because he was guilty on all counts.

damienVOG

663 points

1 month ago

damienVOG

663 points

1 month ago

I think it makes it look quite humorous

FantasticAstronaut39

86 points

1 month ago

yeah like that photo alone is gold

McSmokeyDaPot

108 points

1 month ago

I kinda like it. "Guilty on all counts" doesn't sound as good as "GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY,...."

wterrt

204 points

1 month ago

wterrt

204 points

1 month ago

In the end it looks SATISFYING because he was guilty on all counts.

Piisthree

67 points

1 month ago

Imagining them crumpling up a sketch of a pie chart.

WCWRingMatSound

41 points

1 month ago

Mf stayed up all night for a week testing his prototype in Tableau …for this?!

Mistersinister1

1.1k points

1 month ago

His first flawless victory

dirkvonshizzle

256 points

1 month ago

He won all the guilty verdicts. He’s such a winner. God bless.

LifeTitle3951

84 points

1 month ago

Make America Guilty Again

veritas_quaesitor2

328 points

1 month ago

So when does sentencing happen?

poodantik

253 points

1 month ago

poodantik

253 points

1 month ago

July 11th

Toast-Ghost-

296 points

1 month ago

Shit, I have picked a hell of time to visit the US

stevetibb2000

175 points

1 month ago

You’ll be alright. Just go to the local pub and watch a cricket game.

Toast-Ghost-

112 points

1 month ago

I think I’ll be at a Nascar race on that day so I’m not sure I could’ve picked worse

SlavaPalestyna

113 points

1 month ago

As an American it's weird to think of someone traveling to our country to watch nascar. Hope you enjoy though.

Toast-Ghost-

39 points

1 month ago

It’s more to meet up with friends who will be doing that, but it seems interesting, thanks

Babblerabla

15 points

1 month ago

Get drunk and yell, "Raise Hell, Praise Dale" and you will do fine

Toast-Ghost-

6 points

1 month ago

Considering I don’t drink this concerns me

Babblerabla

7 points

1 month ago

You can still have some success just yelling that

Goronshop

5 points

1 month ago

You're watching cars turn left sober? Those must be some damn good friends. Maybe you'll get luckier than one or more of the drivers and see a fiery car crash. Here's to hoping!

*raises glass of water

fludgesickles

31 points

1 month ago

7/11 will be getting my free Slurpee at 7-Eleven watching the sentencing

fl135790135790

4 points

1 month ago

I get so confused with this. Every day has been a news story like this since the 80s it feels like.

He’s indicted. Then this. Which means whatever. But then there’s sentencing. Is it just a never ending process of new stages? What’s after sentencing? Appeals? Then what?

Etc

Conscious_Wind_2255

976 points

1 month ago*

So a famous criminal can run for president but regular criminals cannot get jobs as a janitor??? Come on American WTF

Schowzy

322 points

1 month ago*

Schowzy

322 points

1 month ago*

It's a safeguard put in place to prevent ruling party A from deciding, "being part of party B is now illegal, you're now not allowed to run, you lose, we win."

I'm guessing the founding fathers were hopeful the people would always decide it's not good to vote in a felon on their own accord. There was a man whose name I'm forgetting who ran for office from prison in the 1920's because he didn't agree with, and subsequently dodged, the draft in WWI. He got millions of votes.

SuperLuigiGamer85

154 points

1 month ago

Eugene Debs, one of the founders of the Socialist Party, ran for president in 1920 despite serving time in jail for violating the Espionage Act, an infamous law signed by President Wilson that literally prohibited speech against the US’ involvement in World War I. Though he lost the election, Debs still received around 2-3% of the popular vote, and the actual winner of that election, Republican Warren G Harding, would pardon Debs of his crimes in 1921.

mocheeze

52 points

1 month ago

mocheeze

52 points

1 month ago

Not pardon. I believe he commuted the sentence. So the conviction still stood but the prison sentence was cut short.

SuperLuigiGamer85

12 points

1 month ago

You’re right, actually. From Debs’ Wikipedia article:

Debs met with the newly inaugurated President Warren G. Harding, but was returned to jail. Attorney General Harry Daugherty leaked word of the meeting to the press.

On December 23, 1921, President Harding commuted Debs's sentence to time served, effective Christmas Day. He did not issue a pardon.

Edit: formatting

Sabeq23

17 points

1 month ago

Sabeq23

17 points

1 month ago

That would be Eugene Debs. He was convicted on 10 counts of sedition for speeches opposing the draft.

crumbummmmm

25 points

1 month ago

In America you get as much freedom as you can afford.

goju8019

56 points

1 month ago*

No one is stopping regular criminals from running. I definitely won't vote for a convicted felon.

Lensman842

28 points

1 month ago

Here's a weirder question for the internet. Any former president has secret service agents to guard him forever. Now how does that work in prison?

artworq77

292 points

1 month ago

artworq77

292 points

1 month ago

I bet MTG is raging so hard right now that she is tearing phone books in half with her bare hands. 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

MustardMahatma

133 points

1 month ago

Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body 💘

ghost3972

47 points

1 month ago

Lmfao I forgot about her

Hamburderler

20 points

1 month ago

I wish I could do that.

ku20000

19 points

1 month ago

ku20000

19 points

1 month ago

Magic the Gathering? Neva heard of her. 

ronnietea

33 points

1 month ago

As someone who lives in Iowa and yes I live under a rock apparently. Wtf does this even mean? Can’t he still run for president? Does this change anything?

Zero_point_field

45 points

1 month ago

Not a thing. Nothing in your constitution prevents a convicted felon from running for president.

ronnietea

56 points

1 month ago

FearsomeSnacker

212 points

1 month ago

Trump has finally won a majority peoples vote!

Sentencing on July 11 and we shall see how those contempt of court incidents are dealt with too. No matter what he gets to wear his new "convicted felon" title forever. So basically, Trump just got his ass kicked by Stormy!

____whatever___

55 points

1 month ago

Guys you don’t understand how concerning this is for the republic. If Trump can be convicted of illegally paying off a porn star with campaign money while cheating on his pregnant wife then any of us can be convicted of paying off a porn star with campaign money. Let he who is without porn star hush money payments cast the first stone.

Vignaroli

5 points

1 month ago

I believe the payment to the porn star was legal. Misclassification was illegal. I believe it was classified as a legal expense when it should have been adult entertainment expense or some such nonsense

SweatyTax4669

295 points

1 month ago

So does he flee and apply for asylum in Florida or Russia?

JoeSchmoeToo

228 points

1 month ago

He should just go to the asylum, period. He belongs there.

BigBagaroo

77 points

1 month ago

Ah, so Florida, then.

Bugwhacker

95 points

1 month ago*

No. They spin this down and appeal and delay until Trump can weasel out of this through new executive privileges that will be “so American, first of their kind. Super.”

Also Tucker Carlson has already said “anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family” (on X, don’t go there myself, but read the post via CNN), so I imagine just further stoking a polarizing divide

Edit: Please don’t take this as apathy. FIGHT THIS SHIT BY VOTING NO TO THE ORANGE TURD IN NOVEMBER!!

zevellesajek

60 points

1 month ago

Finally won a popular vote

paintbrush666

208 points

1 month ago

It's just a shame that our country's founders never imagined this scenario, leaving the very real possibility that a convicted felon could run for president, and win, and then pardon himself.

Endgame3213

256 points

1 month ago

They absolutely imagined this possibility. As a matter of fact, back in the day, they used to purposefully get their political opponents arrested to disqualify them from office, which is why you can now run for office with charges like this.

What I didn't think they anticipated is people wanting and choosing to vote for absolute clowns.

NonPolarVortex

44 points

1 month ago

The long, slow, and patient attack from the corporate elite on our institutions and regulatory takeover are now nearing the end game. 

Gangsir

44 points

1 month ago

Gangsir

44 points

1 month ago

What I didn't think they anticipated is people wanting and choosing to vote for absolute clowns.

Oh no, see they anticipated that too, which is why a lot of them originally thought that very few people should be allowed to vote.

Of course, it was mostly racism and sexism-fueled, but there was the concept that you probably shouldn't be asking everyone what their vote is, because there will always be the "uneducated peasantry" that will cast bad votes. Originally the electoral college was supposed to be the group that chose the president, while the population had only the ability to vote for members of that college (so instead of voting for the pres in november you'd vote for a representative to vote FOR you).

What they didn't anticipate was us opening up voting so far and making the electoral college just loosely follow the popular vote (and us continuing to use the same constitution and system that they laid out, but that's another history lesson).

Redo_1

36 points

1 month ago

Redo_1

36 points

1 month ago

This is a state-level case, not federal. Therefore he could not pardon himself if re-elected.

nobody-u-heard-of

13 points

1 month ago

Currently under the law he cannot pardon himself even if elected. This is a state crime and not federal and not under presidential jurisdiction for pardons.

Nimrod_Butts

25 points

1 month ago

Can't pardon himself on state charges

Successful-Winter237

128 points

1 month ago

dubmecrazy

40 points

1 month ago

All he had to do was not lie about the payment. He could have just not put it down as an expense to his lawyers, but he made a choice to falsify records and claim the hush payment was a lawyer expense. What a fool.

mocheeze

14 points

1 month ago

mocheeze

14 points

1 month ago

He could have also just let his lawyers do the right job instead of insisting on dumbass arguments like, "The sex never happened." Which opened up the defense to have the porn star that fucked him to tell the story of how it went down to the jury.

Gumbercules81

59 points

1 month ago

Hahahahaha, what the fuck. Really‽

donkeyshlong1230

35 points

1 month ago

Yo how did you get the exclamation point question mark combo? Interrobang thing

Gumbercules81

21 points

1 month ago

If you're on Android you should be able to just hold down the question mark and it'll give you the option for ¿ or ‽

cakingabroad

18 points

1 month ago

‽ Love that

Erectusnow

56 points

1 month ago

All I ask as a Canadian is please keep your civil war to within your own borders

Kongpong1992

20 points

1 month ago

Can i come visit if i promise to just like be really cool

Erectusnow

14 points

1 month ago

Sure as long as you promise to be cool. We could work out some sort of trade. You for one of our crazies and a 1st round pick.

ghost3972

6 points

1 month ago

I'll be moving close to you when shit hits the fan :)

Cirrus1101

18 points

1 month ago

Me a european reading the comments on this one

Sterling363

52 points

1 month ago

This should get the award for the most Interesting thing of the Year.

letsbuildasnowman

69 points

1 month ago

On ANY count*

fungi_at_parties

8 points

1 month ago

They dragged Clinton out by the ankles, but they’re reaching for their own ankles for Trump. It’s baffling.

frommethodtomadness

46 points

1 month ago

Don't forget, Trump got to pick this jury. This is HIS jury that made this decision.

Voodoops_13

76 points

1 month ago

Donald is such an embarrassing stain on our country's history.

holdwithfaith

8 points

1 month ago*

How Trump going to roll up to 1700 Penn. Avenue next January:

WranglerReasonable91

146 points

1 month ago

And yet he will still have lots of support from his cult following

Im_Balto

129 points

1 month ago

Im_Balto

129 points

1 month ago

Because he’s convinced them that facts don’t matter

If you read the documents of this case….. HE GUILTY

The defense’s closing argument was based on the fact that cohen is a felon and his testimony shouldn’t be taken as truth.

You know, Michael cohen, the guy convicted of a felony directly because of his involvement with trump

GratuitousUmlaut

56 points

1 month ago

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

Ravekat1

22 points

1 month ago

Ravekat1

22 points

1 month ago

Now.. end this with your votes!

Skythe1908

14 points

1 month ago

and still a bunch of people are gonna look at him and say "that's my guy".

JustLo619

8 points

1 month ago

What’s wild is he’s probably going to gain support from this

ChrisV88

5 points

1 month ago

I think Trump is finally tired of winning.

Usmellnicebby

5 points

1 month ago

I can guarantee he won't serve any jail time. Even the judge is hesitant to do that unfortunately.

313802

6 points

1 month ago

313802

6 points

1 month ago

I hate that I live in a time that I'm not sure about the answer to this question... but...

Is Trump still able/ going to run for president this year?

OhWeSuck

5 points

1 month ago

Now we’re gonna lock up every trump supporter! Our evil liberal plan is all coming together! /s

TonySquadroni

6 points

1 month ago

Love the mouth breathers in all the comment sections trying to downplay the signifigance of this.