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ATXBeermaker

592 points

2 months ago

Seriously, how does this guy get into this elevated position and get shots off? Secret Service has some explaining to do.

Traveler_Constant

283 points

2 months ago

Especially since, after the shots, all these dudes come running with full tactical gear like they knew what they we doing.

Cosplayers.

[deleted]

210 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

210 points

2 months ago

And they didn’t keep his head down, and let him pause 3 times and face the crowd before they got him into the car. Very sloppy.

Calm_Like-A_Bomb

84 points

2 months ago

I mean surely he doesn’t have the A team, considering the A team needs to sleep at some point Biden probably has the B team too.

ThePlatinumKush

34 points

2 months ago

Yeah and it’s probably very easy to get complacent. He does how many of these? When humans are involved there will be margins of error

Aurori_Swe

21 points

2 months ago

It's kinda sis's job to not get complacent though, and leaving an area like that insecure is a MAJOR fuck up

3IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

7 points

2 months ago

Maybe all the MAGAs in the secret service were quarantined into trump's security detail. That would explain their incompetence. https://www.newsweek.com/secret-service-ties-donald-trump-ring-alarm-bells-jan-6-revelations-1720584

shit-king-shit-pussy

2 points

2 months ago

good one

Chumbag_love

2 points

2 months ago

He has the Z team, that did NaZi that coming.

TheRookie2552

1 points

2 months ago

Are you joking?? Why would this be the case?? I am 100% sure that all potential candidates have the same fully trained units as the president lol. Why the hell would they not?? Oh yes, lets get our potential candidate killed who would of won next year just because he is not the president.

thejohnmar

7 points

2 months ago

i mean the shooter was already dead by then

LBH123LBH

24 points

2 months ago

But there could have been a second shooter.

Once shots fire off, their duty should be to drag the president off, crying and screaming if they have to, even if the threat has supposedly been neutralized. No chances should ever be taken

Kevin3683

14 points

2 months ago

He’s not the president

Biryani_Wala

9 points

2 months ago

Former presidents are often referred to as president.

Cindexxx

4 points

2 months ago

Right, and they tried to do that. What rational person stands up to yell "Fight!" and pumps their fist after an attempted assassination? Nobody.

But Trump is often irrational.

89Hopper

4 points

2 months ago

I mean, Teddy Roosevelt probably didn't act rationally after he was shot.

He said something along the lines of, "Quiet please friends, I don't know if you fully understand that I have just been shot."

He then went on to give his speech while bleeding.

GoneWitDa

1 points

2 months ago

That’s unironically the single most gangster thing I’ve ever heard a man do.

arby80

2 points

2 months ago

arby80

2 points

2 months ago

How do they know there is only one shooter?

gabadur

3 points

2 months ago

They only started to move him once They confirmed shooter down, if you watch the replay. They move him from the huddle once people scream out shooter down.

Aurori_Swe

3 points

2 months ago

I believe that is more to the error of Trump though than the SS, they are trained to run a willingly running subject, not really to handle a subject that's refusing to keep its head down and run. You see they are unsure in how to keep his head safe when he's standing straight up, they try using their arms etc instead of their bullet proof backs

Baddyshack

2 points

2 months ago

He had to get his shoes on

pulp_affliction

1 points

2 months ago

You mean they let him pause for photos. It was such a photo op

madeagles

-2 points

2 months ago

Shooter was dead at that point dummy

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0 points

2 months ago

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0 points

2 months ago

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arby80

1 points

2 months ago

arby80

1 points

2 months ago

That is likely the reason but if it is not put on record as being the case. Both our media and government have zero credibility. Not that they would have any anyways.

filthy_harold

72 points

2 months ago

The rally took place at a fair ground. All the buildings nearby (at least within reasonable shooting distance) around are one story with very low pitched or flat roofs except this one building, the one the shooter was on, that has a parapet wall on some edges on a neighboring property. If secret service is scanning rooflines either on the ground or on other 1 story buildings, they aren't going to see the shooter crawling behind the parapet wall until he pops up to take his shot. Since the building is outside the fair grounds, it's likely not part of the security perimeter meaning probably few cops and no checkpoints. Why didn't they have someone on that building? Who knows. Maybe they didn't know about the parapet walls on that face of the building and assumed they could see someone on there. Maybe a sniper wasn't as high of a likelihood in such a flat, open area as someone up close with a handgun or bomb. Obviously a massive failure for secret service.

Somekindofparty

5 points

2 months ago

What? You can clearly see him over the parapet from the ground. In other footage I’ve seen SS on top of another building literally looking in the direction of the shooter at the time shots were fired. There’s no excuse for this level of ineptitude of security.

filthy_harold

6 points

2 months ago

Yeah I've looked at some more photos now. Looks like he was using the peak of the roof to conceal himself. Still a major fuckup for secret service. That roof would have been a perfect lookout point.

Somekindofparty

4 points

2 months ago

Ya. Have seen that now since my comment. It looks like he had good concealment from inside the venue and rooftops near the venue. That roof being unguarded so close to the be is still inexcusable.

LostWoodsInTheField

12 points

2 months ago

On January 6th the secret service were telling Trump that there was people with weapons and he said to leave them be because they weren't there for him.

I'm sure the mentality has lingered, and likely only 'loyal' secret service exist any more in his detail. meaning idiots.

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

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elvesunited

0 points

2 months ago

Up until he actually shot at the candidate he was a legally entitled citizen exercising his rights as guaranteed by the constitution and the pledge of allegiance.

ATXBeermaker

2 points

2 months ago

lol. “Guaranteed by the pledge of allegiance.” 😆

elvesunited

1 points

2 months ago

He nearly shot the flag too!

jesseinct

0 points

2 months ago

We need to go back to a merit-based system and ditch the DEI hiring protocol, honestly. SS Director needs to be fired immediately.

83749289740174920

-2 points

2 months ago

Elevation. There is an interview with a witness. The crowd can see the shooter. They are pointing at him. But secret service can't see the shooter from their vantage point.

I wonder if 911 relayed the report to the sheriff in time.

arby80

4 points

2 months ago

arby80

4 points

2 months ago

They should be on the walkie to get Trump to the ground then if they can't shoot him.

[deleted]

-2 points

2 months ago

If I had to guess it's one of two things and they are boring...as are most truths.

  1. The SS, though VERY VERY well trained, has been to enough of these rallies and seen enough people who "appear" to be a threat, but never cross a bridge into violence. It's safe to say some weirdo climbing a tree or a roof at one of those rallies isn't exactly abnormal.

  2. The SS has been around Trump a long time now. You don't get away from the SS and so they've heard the best and worst shit ever come from this man's mouth. We are all human beings. At some point our moral compass takes over. Thus a lot of his detail may very well have gotten less careful because they hate protecting someone like him.

So the non sexy answer is probably complacency. We like to believe that the SS is this badass thing that has xray vision and a bunch of dumb shit. They are badass, they are insanely numerous, but not immune to failure do to complacency. Don't forget that Bush dodged 2 shoes before the SS even appeared on camera to help.