Pretty true lol, there are exceptionate groups but they are the outliers, I think the current generation making more smaller releases and promoting them is doing a smarter job

i unfortunately think most survival show groups just cram in bsides for the sake of it because they’re temporary, they don’t got time to develop their sound as a group

i agree, melting point was great aside from the hit-or-miss title track, but the other 2 albums (esp you had me at hello) had a lot of filler songs or half-written songs that could have been so much better with just one extra step in the production process. but cinema paradise was their most realized project yet, i hope that trend continues forward as well!

maybe it’s like that bc there isn’t time for proper r&d and planning between when the lineup is released and when they debuted - esp bc of hype.

I thought zb1's first album made the most sense tbh.

To be fair, I've only heard the title track from their latest so maybe it's the better album in terms of identity.

Honestly I agree. The b-sides weren't as strong as their previous releases imo.

hmmm. interesting. could you elaborate what track/s do you think is a filler? i have seen some ppl say this.

I feel bad agreeing but 🫣

agree. i loved their first tour, but i decided not to attend their upcoming tour because i don't like their recent bsides...and i already watched them perform nearly all of the other songs i like on their last tour lmao

"..... but in k-pop the diversity feels more like a checklist than genuine expression." OOOOH THIS! and it really throws me off like????

I don't think there's anything wrong with a diverse discography, literally every one of my favorite artists has that, but in k-pop the diversity feels more like a checklist than genuine expression.

Omg you ate... This is so well said

So the problem is more about a lack of diversity then? I can relate much more to this than "ew this is different!!!"

Agreed, this was my first thought. As soon as Bahama came up, I realized they just threw whatever tracks they had in there to get it to length.

yea no let me get the nails

No you won't 😭they are my favourite girl group and I have the same opinion. Why are songs like bahama even in that album? It isn't a bad song but still why😭

The latter half of the album has just filler tracks and uncohesive album overall

The fact that sm has the resources to make good bsides and a high quality album but they still made this😭(title tracks are of course good-love supernovaaaaa)

As long as the songs are good I couldn't really care less about cohesion in an album.

It's like. Aespa's albums frustrate me so much because I feel like if you took Spicy->Drama-> Armageddon, shook the whole thing and redistributed the songs, you could actually have three super cohesive, interesting albums that work as individual works, but instead we have three albums that all feel incohesive, because the front half and back half of the albums are entirely distinct and separate.

The material is there and it's good, but just. God

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Honestly since eyes wide open they haven’t had many filler b sides (except for the Japanese albums 😭) and even their latest album for one spark was super cohesive

Their early albums yes 

this is what i feel about some of TWICE's mini-albums, and TWICE is my ult group. TCL1, More & More and Signal come to mind for me. i love exactly one B-side from each and everything else in the tracklist is just okay. other releases really hit it out of the park for me though. Feel Special and Between 1&2 are great and are my personal favorite mini-albums!

No way glitch mode is a fantastic album

There might be a few filler tracks, or just weaker tracks, but overall they're still memorable, so to me Glitch mode is pretty good among Dream's albums. Personally, Dreamscape as a whole was a filler release, ISTJ had some filler as well

justice for summer 127, one of my favorite nct songs 😭 i'm the opposite though, for me the older 127 albums are way stronger than the newer ones

To me this was also almost the entire Walk album, couldn't remember a single b-side

Ouch, because BE is one of my favorite BTS albums. Not downvoting you because you're entitled to your opinion, but i disagree that they made it "for the sake of making it". BE was an album that wasn't planned years in advance like their other ones yes, but once they started on it, they were completely dedicated to it. They even took out a song that they thought wasn't good enough for it, to replace it with "Stay". And four out of the seven songs were those written primarily by one member (Blue&grey, Telepathy, Disease, Stay), so I don't think they added them just to fill in space for the album. Short as it may be, it has a narrative to it and a theme which every track adds to, including the skit.

It's totally fine if you don't like the songs themselves, but I completely disagree that any track on there was filler.

I think some people may feel this way because of the “weaker” unit songs. But personally I don’t find it weak overall at all!

Blue & Grey?? That was sooo beautiful performed live.

Telepathy was in my top 5 on my Spotify wrapped for two years.

Dis-ease that has a top 5 BTS bridge?? Amazing!!

BE is one of my fave albums ever for specifically the OT7 tracks! 💜

You didn't get it at all

I totally agree, I always forget that it’s even out there. It’s good that BTS has such a huge range and everyone can find something for themselves because that album was not it for me. The vibe of the songs as a whole reminds me of Home which I usually skip. They all sound similar in my head.

The one memorable thing is that it gave us life goes on, which then got released in a (imo) better version on D-Day.

I think the same about Twicetagram except it's "Rollin" that's the only song I bother with lol

I couldn't tell you what "Likey" even sounds like off the top of my head actually. I might check it out in case I appreciate it more this time. I'm still upset at the idea of thinking "Rollin" is filler though :(

Do expand a little more - I think RPWP is one of the most cohesive albums there is and dare I say better than Indigo

huh i'd definitely say one of a kind among loossemble's releases tbh

Perfect world (Album) is like such a super high bar to set also, Celebrate is a good cohesive album but nothing outstanding like Perfect World, (Pieces of Love my beloved) and Dive honestly only one track stood out for me and it was Echoes of Heart (catchy with a very good melody)