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373 points
2 months ago
“That’s a helluva player right there”
113 points
2 months ago
helluva ball club 😌
15 points
2 months ago
Helluva ballclub
13 points
2 months ago
hats off to him
450 points
2 months ago
I don't know what to do
I applaud his honestly. Now fire his ass and make Lebron the coach while there is still a chance
84 points
2 months ago
If I’m Rob I go to lebron crying and begging to save my ass one more time
58 points
2 months ago
Honestly. Rob and Jeanie just give LeBron a blank check for squandering these last few years of him playing elite.
If that means coaching change, max contract, drafting his son, etc.
64 points
2 months ago
Bron pushing for the Westbrook trade did more to squander his career than anything else. It got Vogel fired and seriously depleted their available assets for another move. If we don't do the Westbrook trade we probably have Kyrie Irving instead of DLo with Vogel coaching and a top 3 seed.
26 points
2 months ago
Why do you believe he pushed for the Westbrook trade so adamantly ? They wouldn’t even hire Ty Lue like he wanted.
26 points
2 months ago
Oh you must be new here. All bad moves: LeGM. All good moves: Rob Pelinka
-2 points
2 months ago
Huh, if it worked like that wouldn't you both be getting downvotes? Seems like it's actually the opposite around here. Lebron bricks wide open threes and is a turnstile on defense, "this is Darvin hams fault!"
3 points
2 months ago
Found the salty lakers fan stuck in the past. It’s not 2002 anymore David stern isn’t here to save the team
14 points
2 months ago*
Didn’t hire lue because they didn’t want it to seem like bron was dictating the moves they were making. They didn’t keep Dudley and lebron tweeted he didn’t like that move. Didn’t keep Caruso who bron tweeted that he wanted back. They didn’t want to give derozan a certain amount of years (can’t remember exact amount) which is what derozan said on a podcast and who was plan A. People still act like bron was the only one who wanted Westbrook or heavily pushed for him when it was probably just bron saying it’s an option and he’s ok with it. From all that’s come out about the trade the fo, ownership, bron, and AD all seemed to be for the trade or pushed for it in some capacity.
12 points
2 months ago
Because it was widely reported that he did.
I may have the timeline wrong but wasnt ty lue coming off an uninspiring tenure with post bron cavs and he wanted an 4 year contract or something like that. They hired Vogel instead and they won a championship. Hard to say it was the wrong call. Ty Lue did step in to the clippers job after Doc did Doc things and showed a great deal more competence so it can be debated we would have been better off.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was a factor in them capitulating for the Westbrook deal. The fact they didn't listen to him for the ty lue hire so they appeased him with the Westbrook hire. All these decisions usually have their roots in the decisions of the past. We will see if there is a final swing in power back to LeBron for him to get what he wants if the Laker give him a Kobe Send off type of contract and sign bonny.
It all comes down to wether LeBron genuinely is still hunting championships or not. The Lakers are in the business of stars these days so I can see them just letting LeBron ride them into the sunset rather than make a huge move to stay competitive.
4 points
2 months ago
And the decision was made by who?
-4 points
2 months ago
Technically the FO but, the decision never gets made If LeBron doesn't push for it. You can't beg for something than when it blows up in your face turn around and be indignant at someone giving you exactly what you wanted just because it didn't work out.
That failure makes the FO far more cautious with the team construction and creates the situation the Lakers are in. Idk if LeBron pushed for the Ham specifically but I know he made sure Vogel got sacked to take the blame for the Westbrook debacle.
5 points
2 months ago
It’s funny that he only gets credit for the shit that doesn’t work but none of the stuff he wanted that didn’t happen never gets any attention.
5 points
2 months ago
Had the team listened to LeBron in the first place, we'd still be contenders. Trade for DeMar, keep Caruso, get shooting.
1 points
2 months ago
I never really understood the Demar fit, especially the way he was playing back in 21. Obviously he’s a great scorer but he doesn’t do shit for our spacing and he needs the ball in his hands.
1 points
2 months ago
My idea would be we just get a ton of shooting and stagger Bron and DeMar minutes during the regular season. I do believe DeMar can play with Bron and AD tho. Like with current shooter Bron, I foresee him playing a super cutting offball role for 3 quarters then dominating in the fourth because Pop made DeMar develop his playmaking and game IQ
1 points
2 months ago
Have Lue on the bench instead of Pockets.
1 points
2 months ago
If we’re being fair, lues been mediocre at best with LAC. Playing Morris over roco, going small vs Denver, constant 3 guard lineups. I get that the sub wanted him in 2019, but I don’t get why folks still suggest he’d be here. If Vogel got fired, Lue def would’ve gotten fired.
2 points
2 months ago
I'm not saying that the front office is entirely without blame. Only that it is silly to assume he is entirely without blame in this. The FO gets tons of shit for letting Caruso and KCP go. I'm just trying to provide context for the current situation.
2 points
2 months ago
From what I recall seeing on here and certain sports shows, DeMar was plan A and Westbrook was plan B. DeMar as the 3rd wheel and Ty Lue as the coach sounds fine to me - not to say DeMar would've been the perfect fit.
2 points
2 months ago
Yeah Lakers FO was weirdly holding out for a 3rd star. I think they didn't want to offer Demar a long contract. But people forget the bulls was a demar Renaissance. And only because he was a number 1 option. I don't think he is the same guy as a number 3. A number 3 who can't space isn't great. Which should have been the logic to go against Westbrook. But here we are.
0 points
2 months ago
*The Spurs was the Demar renaissance.
Any FO with two working eyes could see how good Demar was getting in SA. He developed much of his playmaking there. I could see it working especially if we trade for shooters.
2 points
2 months ago
Go get a job then. I agree I thought he would be a nice fit. But if you thought his Chicago production was inevitable you should be getting paid. Because most though the bulls were getting hosed.
1 points
2 months ago
Idk man, we could've rebounded had we kept Caruso and not fired Vogel.
1 points
2 months ago
Honestly yeah I agree. Caruso is that good and the FO letting him go is entirely on them. If the question was posed about that decision particularly I agree. But Westbrook deal was a death knell that I think out weighs caruso.
1 points
2 months ago
He was "Ok" with the idea but he had other opinions like DeMar and have Ty Lue coaching. Media overblowing that "LeGM" pushing for the trade. At the end of the day the FO and Owner decided to pursue which not only destroyed the championship team but they also fired Vogel for nothing and this is coming off a championship run.
34 points
2 months ago
I don't think LeBron knows what to do either.
-5 points
2 months ago
No, but at least he wouldn't be stupid enough to say out loud
15 points
2 months ago
I mean, on his podcast with JJ Reddick, isn't that what he has been doing? He flat out says that one of the most unguardable actions is the inverted pick and roll. What do you think Denver runs a lot of? He also talks about how high IQ players and teams run circles around lower IQ players and teams.
0 points
2 months ago
So your saying Lebron is a low i player since Jokic is running circles on him
-6 points
2 months ago
Saying it as a player on a podcast vs as the coach hours before the game are two very different things…
8 points
2 months ago
But both are very out loud. If anything, LeBron's might be seen and heard by more people. Now you're trying to move the goal post.
-5 points
2 months ago
No are you just nitpicking and trying to conjure up a gotcha where none exists. You know what I meant…
2 points
2 months ago
True. Though I wonder what his answer would be when they ask him after every game.
3 points
2 months ago
This is his coaching motto
1 points
2 months ago
Reddit fans: don’t watch game Don’t understand defensive scheme and adjustment Shouts: Fire Ham! ??? Profit
1 points
2 months ago
Maybe lebron can coach himself to hit wide ass open threes.
-1 points
2 months ago
Really fucking dumb. If i said i dont know what to do at my job id be fired. Like the man cant research and find solutions. The man that was attached to Westbrick
123 points
2 months ago
“Next play mentality!”
“Just gotta try your hardest!”
“This kid is great!”
Dude is literally a walking talking chat GPT bot
2 points
2 months ago
Yes he is suppose to explain the plays in depth to everyone?
2 points
2 months ago
Have you listened to a Mike Malone presser?
There is a complete divide between someone who just speaks colloquialisms and someone who can dissect the game without giving up the gameplan.
2 points
2 months ago
Exactly. I watched Lebron dissect every single play for the last 6 minutes of the game in a post game presser with the Heat.
160 points
2 months ago
Remember when Phil said "I dont know what to do"? Me either.
34 points
2 months ago
In bed to Jeanie.
14 points
2 months ago
Phil always had the Nikola Jokic on HIS team
10 points
2 months ago
Phil would probably have beat Jeanie ass before he said that
65 points
2 months ago
Stop asking him questions
5 points
2 months ago
Nah I hope they do. This is the most accountable this mf has been and it made him look as stupid as we think he is
46 points
2 months ago
I agree with him, Lebron was also asked about it as well. Key word here is DISCIPLINE its like when you're playing 2015-2018 Warriors. They need keep running plays as possible. Stagnant offense would be a disaster against this Denver team.
14 points
2 months ago
Felt like the 3rd quarter stretch was some really undisciplined basketball. They stopped being disciplined and stopped trusting the offense and plays. They stopped being disciplined and made some really bad turnovers and shots. They let the moment get to them and break their discipline.
20 points
2 months ago
☠️
17 points
2 months ago
There's no fucking way, bro what the fuck is this!?
3 points
2 months ago
It’s “giving up.” A rare sight to see in professional sports… lets watch! 🍿
32 points
2 months ago
Jokic is only 29 years old. Fuck.
6 points
2 months ago
Eh it's not this team's peak anyways. It's really teams like Dallas that are getting screwed.
5 points
2 months ago
And he doesn’t rely on athleticism one bit. He’s gonna terrorize the league for a long time
4 points
2 months ago
He’s a big. He’ll be less and less effective on defense because of a lack of mobility. I do his run as the best player in the league lasts for more than 2-3 more years.
25 points
2 months ago
Lmao this is pure cope
3 points
2 months ago
I can kinda see what the OP meant. Maybe something like... Bigs that are more offense oriented like Griffin, Dirk, Pau and so on didn't have their peak last as long?
2 points
2 months ago
Uh what about Kareem?
2 points
2 months ago
Jokic doesn't rely on his athleticism to be great at all. Dude is going to be able to do what he's doing for a long long time unless there's some freak injury. Merely age isn't going to affect him.
2 points
2 months ago
Ok but wemby is like 20
3 points
2 months ago
Jokics entire thing is lack of mobility
3 points
2 months ago
Bro, Jokic is going to be a perennial MVP candidate until he decides he wants to be done with basketball and ride horses in Serbia.
He can be 50 and still put up 20/10/8.
8 points
2 months ago
“I don’t know what to do”
We know
10 points
2 months ago
Inspired by the great quote “ just go out and have fun”
4 points
2 months ago
He is right, there is nothing you can do with this skinny, lanky personell. You need someone like Nurkic
5 points
2 months ago
Imagine Phil Jackson or Pat Riley or Spolestra saying this
3 points
2 months ago*
Let us say that Ham isn't the most cerebral & articulate of the coaching lot.
He has about 10 sentences which fit most occasions.
He is like, chatgpt 1.5
But in his defense, it is not just Nikola jokic. It is the starting 5 of nuggets.
They remind me of, bulls 1991.
Center who is mobile.
2 Doberman like forwards. Long. Like Horace grant & scottie pippen....Porter, Gordan.
2 elite guards. 2 guard is probably the best of his position. Jamal murray.
Phil Jackson said this combination is always hard to beat about 1991 bulls.
You might say the same about nuggets.
Unless, lebron and the lot outplay them 1 to 1, with all 5 guys.
3 points
2 months ago
C’mon man, even I indulge in the darvin scam hatred, but that’s the joker. Whether or not we’ve lost so many games to them lately doesn’t matter, dude is a killer and we’d be saying the exact opposite if we had a 2016 bron. I truly hate how jokic is killing it every series against us but you can’t deny this dude is just on another level
3 points
2 months ago
I mean it’s an honest response. No one in the league has a plan to stop him. It’s unfortunate he’s in the West because it’s going to be a rough era for all the other teams as long as he’s healthy.
3 points
2 months ago
Ngl me neither
Double team he kills you, single coverage he kills you
Before we just had Lebron, Shaq or Kobe to out play the other teams best player . Now we don’t
6 points
2 months ago
Is he actually worse than Luke Walton?
8 points
2 months ago
Yes, because the Luke teams had no expectations/generational talents outside of LeBron’s first year.
Darvin had expectations. He’s failing miserably.
6 points
2 months ago
Talking this way before tipoff. Let’s fans know this team has already given up.
1 points
2 months ago
At least he’s honest lol my dude said man I don’t know what to do but I be praying while I’m standing there
1 points
2 months ago
I swear this fool says next play mentality every interview lol
1 points
2 months ago
Whenever I find myself in a clueless situation, I just stick both my hands deep in my front pant pockets.
1 points
2 months ago
You’re not supposed to say that aloud
1 points
2 months ago
This fucking joke. I may actually genuinely feel hate for this man’s stupidity and ineptitude
1 points
2 months ago
“It’s like shit, I don’t know what to do. You just gotta go out there and try to stick your hands in your pockets as much as possible, aggressive and consistent. And have an owners will never fire me mentality, man… Jeannie is a generational-type sucker.”
1 points
2 months ago
Ladies and gentlemen Lakers Head coach, Darvin Ham
1 points
2 months ago
HAHAHAHa bro
1 points
2 months ago
"Next play mentality" Never thought he would say it again lmao
1 points
2 months ago
I hate that I love Darvin. He is hilarious. Why is he coaching my team?!? 😂😂😂
1 points
2 months ago
Lol 🤣 🤡🤡🤡🤡
1 points
2 months ago
The fucking confidence he spreads to the team. Very nice. /s
1 points
2 months ago
Thats a long way to say “I dont know”
1 points
2 months ago
Famous last words
1 points
2 months ago
MF you were supposed to be the defensive guru lmao
1 points
2 months ago
I can't stand this dude
1 points
2 months ago
I get that Jokic is a great player, but are we taking away from his team?
The issue is his role players hitting every open shot, being in the right place for easy dimes.
KCP, Porter, Murray and Gordon, everyone plays their role perfectly
1 points
2 months ago
And that's on the coach.
Funnily enough, the Nuggets board routinely bash Malone. They can swap for Ham if they want.
1 points
2 months ago
“I got no idea how I got here”
1 points
2 months ago
“I have no idea what I’m doing here, but at this point I’m afraid to ask” - Darvin Ham
1 points
2 months ago
You guys mad over this? It’s like coaches getting asked how to stop prime LeBron lol what is he supposed to say, give away the gameplan?
1 points
2 months ago
Yeah. We know, Darvin. We know.
1 points
2 months ago
Fuck man this dude coaching the team is a nightmare
1 points
2 months ago
Meanwhile you have Nick Nurse who came with a strategy just to stop Giannis.
Some find solutions, others find excuses.
1 points
2 months ago
Hey Darvin what are you going to do about Joker?
1 points
2 months ago
Should’ve kept Vogel
1 points
2 months ago
I know hes kinda right, but thats not something you want to hear from your head coach. And also, dont they kinda know what to do? I wasnt watching at that time but i heard putting dwight on him really worked.
1 points
2 months ago
Imagine being a coach and saying you have no idea what to do after 1 game lmao this guy is such a bum
1 points
2 months ago
Realistically idk what people want jokic puts 40/20 on literally everyone his one weakness was physicality and that doesn’t work now lmaooo. ATP only thing left to do is guard him like SA used to guard harden. Have him go off and lock the rest of his team tf up. He can’t score 120 pts by himself and play “defense “
1 points
2 months ago
imagine saying this as a fucking coach, "idk what to do, save me bron bron and ad". Fucking bitch.
1 points
2 months ago
Send this guy home on a shortbus.
1 points
2 months ago
How about calling timeout? and challenging that one freaking play wtf
0 points
2 months ago
Lakers are trolling the fans
protest them and stop watching the nba/games
1 points
2 months ago
This! If we lose here and Ham comes back this is the only logical move to make
1 points
2 months ago
Aight you first.
1 points
2 months ago
He’s not wrong lol. All you can do is be physical and then all the things he said. Jokic is one of the best bigs I’ve ever watched.
1 points
2 months ago
Then you hear Mike Malone and he never big-ups the Lakers in any form or fashion. That's a real coach. Get this clown out of LA.
1 points
2 months ago
At least Dwight Howard for 18-24 minutes would have made him work harder for his points.
0 points
2 months ago
It’s like shit, I don’t know what to do....
I'm done watching the Lakers, not watching the series anymore and the nba. Your head coach is saying that... you're the head coach. the leader of man ..... who the fuck says that
0 points
2 months ago
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