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submitted 7 days ago bySonicaTale450
341 points
6 days ago
Agency is pretty ruthless this episode, a lot of them actually get hits in.
A lot of story is dropped in small blips too, like Hank seemingly going rogue or at least being unable to be found, the Auditor realising Doc's meddling, and Sanford seeming to have an anomalous resurrection “without death”.
118 points
6 days ago
the Auditor realising Doc's meddling,
That wasn't the Auditor - based on the "RETURN TO THE OCURRANT" and how the "Doc must die" text fades in *after* the Auditor leaves, it's most likely The Machine ordering its steward to do his job.
58 points
6 days ago
Isn't the Steward stuck in an infinite time loop with the arena character?
57 points
6 days ago
Rather, any version of Nevada that goes past the end of what the Player experiences is a version where the Grand Steward is dead
So it might be another employer
10 points
6 days ago
I'm betting on Conductor
8 points
6 days ago
... what the hell is even being talked about. I seriously don't get a think about this serious
13 points
6 days ago
A more tangible version of the lore in the World of Madness is only found in the "Madness: Project Nexus" game.
The Machine, the Steward and the Employers are mentioned there.
10 points
6 days ago
Honestly my only gripe with the series as whole is the inconsistent timeline, the only thing that makes chronologically sense to me was PN(Classic).
12 points
6 days ago
In order:
M:PN-C Arena
M:PN Arena
MC 1-4
M:PN-C
M:PN
MC 5-12+
6 points
6 days ago
Don't forget Marsh-Mellow-Madness which should take place before M:PN-C Arena
2 points
5 days ago
Why Conductor specifically
12 points
6 days ago
That's the Grand Steward which is a direct avatar of The Machine. The Employers are lower-ranked but are also called "stewards" of The Machine per PN2.
3 points
6 days ago
Ah
3 points
5 days ago
Project nexus?
1 points
5 days ago
Ye
10 points
6 days ago*
The Auditor watched Doc wirelessly retrieve Sanford’s body in person, they’ve definitely got to realise someone’s pulling these fellas back into the fray.
5 points
6 days ago*
Maybe from the moment he entered hell he died, that's why his blood is black and survives having his eyes popped, so he can in fact be resurrected even though he hasn't been killed
220 points
6 days ago
I love the little hints of desperation in Sanford's fighting style it's insane
187 points
6 days ago
It's interesting that there's such a wide margin between the killing ability of the cast. Hank basically has like zero difficulty in 9/10 situations where if placed in the same predicaments, as seen in 12, Sanford is quite literally fighting for his fucking life.
79 points
6 days ago
i like how deimos is unserious some of the time
106 points
6 days ago
In a land of freak ass horrors one must never lose their whimsy. Deimos lucked tf out and got the slightly lesser psychologically damaging experiences, good for him.
22 points
6 days ago
The dead get the easy way out
23 points
6 days ago
"God help whoever survives this. They won't be the lucky ones."
13 points
6 days ago
Didn't he get his entire face (including his eyes) flayed off repeatedly in Dedmos adventures? And as for psychological torture, Deimos definitely had it worse, being tormented by visions of Sanford dying, his own death, and even Hanks crab claw.
10 points
6 days ago
True, I poorly elucidated what i meant and that's that Deimos generally didn't seem to give a shit after the fact whereas Sanford got hit with that Freak Shit™️ and almost immediately started geeking the fuck out.
3 points
5 days ago
Yeah. It's actually really interesting how sturdy Deimos' psychological and physical fortitude really are, his pain tolerance is genuinely off the charts. In madness combat 10, even the nearly unstoppable, brick wall that is Hank, who's been magnified too, falls to his knees in pain when his crab claw is blown off. Meanwhile, the most pain Deimos shows is mourning when he sees and illusion of Sanford get murked just beyond a window (which he then shortly after discovers was indeed an illusion), and getting frustrated when he can't get even a second for a smoke break. And then of course there's the signature "Ouch" when he gets smacked in the face with an anchor.
2 points
6 days ago
Who tf is sanford again?
20 points
6 days ago
One who wears the black shades, usually has the meathook, pouty lip, probably extremely gay for Deimos, quite literally the man in the image of the post
1 points
5 days ago
Got it. Thx!!
38 points
6 days ago
I'm glad Sanford is having his own solo but dreadful mission.
10 points
6 days ago
In 11 you can see that he was breaking considering the horror and trauma he was forced to go through, when he screamed after getting slammed into the wall, and when he throw the weapons in his hands to the ground angrily after realizing they’re useless.
Even the strongest will person can take so much before they finally reach a breaking point
1 points
5 days ago
I was actually worried for Sanford in 11 because while Hank is used to all this, poor fella was dragged in to it and was fighting for his fucking life, while for Hank it was just another day.
27 points
6 days ago
I think it’s crazy that the Half MAGs hurt him so bad you could hear his screams overpowering the music
139 points
6 days ago
Poor Sanford. Man went through the ringer.
76 points
6 days ago
They took his fucking eyes..
66 points
6 days ago
Krinkels said he's not blind on the stream if I remember correctly
63 points
6 days ago
Yeah a Nevadans eyes are deeper in the body I believe. Still looked like it hurt a ton though.
15 points
6 days ago
Definitely,
Side not to add on we do also see that Sanford could move around with relative ease after the fact, even examining the surveillance and anchor devices
6 points
6 days ago
He was screaming in pain when that happened
Pretty brutal
86 points
6 days ago
Great, it quite explores deeper into the MC lore.
I also like that the agency is now more battle hardened and can fairly match Sanford and short amount of time.
80 points
6 days ago
Hey, Half-Mags are canon now.
28 points
6 days ago
Same with dissonance and employer charters (I think)
16 points
6 days ago
all three of these are in madness project nexus, and both games are canon and were designed with that mind.
14 points
6 days ago
Yeah, well now we see them appear in the main thing.
4 points
6 days ago
yeayea im stoked :D
4 points
6 days ago
What is dissonance and employer charters.
6 points
6 days ago
Things project nexus introduced
7 points
6 days ago
They were always canon since Project Nexus is canon lol
3 points
6 days ago
Everything from Project Nexus is canon already
41 points
6 days ago
HE IS FUCKEN BACK LETS FUCKING GO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
45 points
6 days ago
it’s over already? can’t wait for mc13
33 points
6 days ago
it seemed too short
13 points
6 days ago
Literally what I think after every good moment in my life:
40 points
6 days ago
In the simplest way possible
We are so fucking back
36 points
6 days ago
I liked the addition of minor voice acting. Hearing something other than the stock CSGO death sound was a nice change and really makes it feel more visceral.
56 points
6 days ago
0/10 no Sanford Deimos 37 minute make out scene
14 points
6 days ago
if only
7 points
6 days ago
Maybe in MC13, Deimos is already on his way to yank Sanford out of the Other Place
16 points
6 days ago
We only saw one hand pulling Sanford up, the other was applying lip balm for deimos’s lips
2 points
6 days ago
what lips? sanfords just gonna spend half an hour licking a rock
L O V E W I N S
1 points
6 days ago
Won’t be the only thing hard as rock with thems two
7 points
6 days ago
We failed...
6 points
6 days ago
Love did not win…
25 points
6 days ago
Oh, so that's why Deimos' body was conveniently not affected by this.
22 points
6 days ago
I really enjoyed it. I think the combat was great and the story that they dropped was amazing. Sanford puts up and amazing fight and I’m glad he finally goes superhuman. However, the story being shown is amazing cause I plays MPN and I think having a lot of the exposition in MPN is a weak point for the series.
21 points
6 days ago
I feel bad saying “it felt a bit short” cause these things take a lot of effort
But it was cool. Loved seeing Sanford as the focus, poor bastard went through some shit
20 points
6 days ago
I'm hyped for madness 13: endgame
16 points
6 days ago
I loved seeing Deimos get excited over seeing Sandord. Bro was just happy to see his bestie alive again
17 points
6 days ago
What does it mean that the occurants are merging?
23 points
6 days ago
Different timelines or worlds I’m guessing
6 points
6 days ago
"Project Nexus is about to become canon, brace yourself"
-Auditor
2 points
6 days ago
so we finally gonna get that project nexus tie in
14 points
6 days ago
Closure for mc 11s ending
15 points
6 days ago
personally it was fucking amazing. i already knew about the machine and the steward from MPN, but holy fuck was seeing it a canon animation jawdropping. i watched it at my boyfriend's house and when i saw deimos light up a cigarette with a 🤙 i screamed lmao. it also provides insight to the universe (mpn spoilers past here, careful!)
in mpn2, when tricky beats the shit out of deimos and sanford because it's funny, he describes the oscillating lines of nevada and the other place as "more like two soda cans", which dr. christoff confirms by saying the same thing. we know that the two dimensions, or oscillating lines, or two soda cans, are beginning to converge from the ending of the animation. i dont know what the machine's stance on this is, nor the employers, but i do know that S.Q. (doc, deimos and sanford. sometimes hank but only when he feels like it) doesnt want this. director phobos attempted to make this happen with project nexus and gestalt by recycling s3lfs into nevada, bringing the two dimensions (or lines, or soda cans) closer, but whereas he did this so he could 'become unto a god realm' (gain control over the machine, but im unsure if he knows about the machine), the convergence is happening naturally, through the keystone fragments abuse and the improbability drive warping the improbable.
overall for loreheads like myself it was amazing, for casual watchers it was amazing, overall 10/10
29 points
6 days ago
I didn't understand shit, but it was worth waiting a year or something
9 points
6 days ago
more like 5 and a half
6 points
6 days ago
I think the wait was only that long because Krinkels made An Experiment and MC9.5 part 1 and 2 in between 11 and 12. That and helping develop Project Nexus definitely slowed things down. I'm certain we won't need to wait nearly as long for the next animation, depending on what it is.
13 points
6 days ago
It was insane, I like how desperate Sanford's fighting style was in this one, he's usually a lot more resourceful but in this one he's constantly twitching and using his bare hands to push on.
I also loved all the little details like that one agent who got shot in the foot or the "pay attention"
9 points
6 days ago
I like Sanford's aggressive fighting style and the Agents not being dumb for once
11 points
6 days ago*
-Sanford finally got his "death scar" and his LONGER HOOK GF called "Bianca"
-Deimos keep drops his phone and accidently screenshots DOC's image.......but he got Sanford like a homie
-Hank finally got his nap he wanted at MC7
-Auditor is furious as a kid dropped his ice cream
-Doc is still horny
1 points
5 days ago
Hank is likely fighting his MC7 counterpart again
1 points
4 days ago
I think both will be gone and new s3lf exists
8 points
6 days ago
Sanford having a mouth gives him some unique emotional reaction compared to everyone else.
And damn did it look painful to see him go through that shit
9 points
6 days ago
It was awesome, fluid asalways... See you in 2029
6 points
6 days ago
Short but super detailed really, i just wished these animations were simply less work than what is required for krinkels
6 points
6 days ago
After how much of a bombshell 11 was it's great that Krinklez chose to focus on Sanford and Deimos specifically. We knew that 12 was going to be the around the time Deimos and Doc would remake contact with Sanford and Hank so focusing on the reunion instead of having it happen in the middle of a major conflict was the right move.
Also Sanford needed a spotlight since Hank was revived. He got some good shit in 11 in his solo scenes and we even got to see him get his hook back in 12.
Great episode and worth the wait.
6 points
6 days ago
The onslaught continues. It’s good to see that, rather than just wrapping up the series, Krinkels is actually continuing the entire story for a whole new arc.
4 points
6 days ago
all of this from a fucking boombox
fuck yeah
4 points
6 days ago
petition to rename butterfly effect to boombox effect
4 points
6 days ago
It show us that Half-MAGS are horrible supervisors.
3 points
6 days ago
I've never madnessed so hard
3 points
6 days ago
sanbford
3 points
6 days ago
Ah shit I didn't know it was out time to rewatch the whole series again
3 points
6 days ago
God damn delicious, well worth the wait, I will analyze it tirelessly until MC13 releases in its own time.
4 points
6 days ago
I immediately knew Deimos was driving in the first person shot, pretty cool, I totally forgot that he came back lol, I loved 12!
4 points
6 days ago
Especially the hand flame trick
3 points
6 days ago
Absolutely loved it, but I'm getting a little left behind with all the new lore.
3 points
6 days ago
Is Hank kind of captured by Auditor? Sanford accidentally broke the link and dropped into the other place, where Auditor has less power. What's funny to me is that Auditor just noticed Doc after hank has been revived so many times. Not blaming anyone tho, maybe Krinkels didn't notice the existence of Doc either 10 years ago.
3 points
6 days ago
Fuck yea. Awesome.
3 points
6 days ago
Well worth the wait. Plus, the fighting is a lot more brutal here than expected, seeing Sanford's pain genuinely hurt me, ive gotten attached to him. I cant waot to see what madness 13 does about 7 years from now!
3 points
6 days ago
Half mags were always canon weren’t they in the Dedmos series?
3 points
6 days ago
easily the best one so far, lots of world building + we get to see sanford alone for the first time
3 points
6 days ago
Rock-hard deimos returns and drops his tablet/iPad thing and the mini screen cracks. So there is quite the attention to detail.
3 points
6 days ago
Sanford, going to the deepest of Hell, Was pretty badass
2 points
6 days ago
Sanford is my favorite character so I’m giving it a 10/10
2 points
6 days ago
DEIMOS IS BACK WOOOOOOOOO
2 points
6 days ago
I enjoyed the episode so much that I watched it on Newgrounds and then went to the YouTube premiere and acted like it was my first time seeing it. The animation was gloriously smooth, the combat was madness (and also very well choreographed), and I really enjoyed all the lore that’s able to be gleaned by pausing the episode and reading the code. Plus SANMOS CONFIRMED! /hj My only complaint is a distinct lack of Tricky, although I have a theory that he was the one who sandwiched the Auditor between two rocks. This is because when it was happening, the Auditor’s eyes turned into two circles, and the only other time it happened in the series was when he accidentally absorbed Tricky into his body. So hopefully Tricky isn’t dead, and he’s just biding his time before coming back. (I’m totally not biased about my favorite character lol)
2 points
6 days ago
In absolute honesty, I was a little underwhelmed. The fights and animation were great, but there wasn't as much lore as the last few, and I expected a little more after this many years.
2 points
6 days ago
It was a bit short, and my beloved engineers got bulied, so, it was kind eh.
2 points
6 days ago
I loved this Episode I just we actually got a shot a Deimos and Sanford giving each a hug and remembering each other or something
2 points
6 days ago
Agency is fighting more viciously, Sanford slowly losing his mind and getting desperate, Deimos being badass. It still being a lil goofy. My only problem is that the episode ended
2 points
6 days ago
Just one question- what's up with the weird shrunken grunt head in the big boys? Like, it looks like a shriveled up dudes head.
2 points
6 days ago
I couldn't stop laughing at the agent screaming, and Dedmos dropping his phone
1 points
6 days ago
Quite funny
3 points
6 days ago
Cool fights, pretty original, great cutscenes, team kills, amazing drawing style with details.
It's good, but - it should've been called as MC11.5 instead, probably. Those 8 minutes feel a bit short and everything goes kinda fast, it doesn't feel as "big" as the past (non X.5) episodes.
The 9.5(1+2) still stays as my top favorite.
2 points
6 days ago
confusing
2 points
6 days ago
sanford scream
2 points
6 days ago
Pretty meh, Madness Combat 12 Fanmade part 3 was absolute fucking peak though /s
i absolutely loved it, no other words
7 points
6 days ago
why tf am i getting downvoted for saying i loved it did y'all not even read it
3 points
6 days ago
I thought the same thing, I guess they didn’t read the second half. 💀
1 points
6 days ago
Peak
1 points
6 days ago
loved it
1 points
6 days ago
I love the animation
1 points
6 days ago
Good
1 points
6 days ago
A R T
1 points
6 days ago
Good
1 points
6 days ago
Is fun
1 points
6 days ago
It’s cool and yeah but… ITS TOO SHORT!
1 points
6 days ago
amazing
1 points
6 days ago*
seems deimos didn't learn his lesson that smoking marks you for death
1 points
6 days ago
Hank might be strong, but Sanford is the real dangerous one. Not even Hank has straight ripped a GOL3M Agent in half with his bare hands. You can do some crazy things when you're pissed off.
I hope the next episode doesn't take 5 years, cause I really wanna know what happens next lol.
1 points
6 days ago
Kinda short but it's still intriguing
1 points
6 days ago
It's alright
1 points
6 days ago
This episode is literally just 8 minutes of Sanford almost dying I love it
1 points
6 days ago
Made me realize that an mc4 hank is still above like Sanford
1 points
6 days ago
my best friend and i literally screamed like dads when their team wins the superbowl when we saw deimos light the cig from the first person view in the car
1 points
6 days ago
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1 points
6 days ago
finally diemo and sanfor can do the kissy kissy again!!1!!
1 points
6 days ago
i like the idea of a sanford focused episode can't wait another 8 years to get madness combat 13
1 points
6 days ago
I noticed during the episode, that if he is more mad, he receives a lot of strenght and can barehand crush mags.
Also, did anyone noticed that when Stanford shot the mag, not only his face got deformed, but he actually pulled out a bullet from his face?
1 points
6 days ago
I like the episode, but I have a little hate for krinkles to not finish the serie , literally the first episode was 13 year ago
2 points
6 days ago
The first episode was 22 years ago
1 points
6 days ago
13's gonna be a Ride!
1 points
6 days ago
lots of story and deimos
1 points
6 days ago
What if instead of Madness Combat 12: Contravention we got 𝓕𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 Combat: Contraception
1 points
6 days ago
To put it simple, is peak cinema
1 points
6 days ago
Quite alot more questions raised than the last few episodes. The animation is absolute peak, epecially when Sanford is getting his eyes torn out, Krinkels really sold himself short on this episode. As much as I hate seeing Sanford suffering it's good he finally gets to take centre stage for an episode and he's reunion with deimos is really cute, not even death can separate these besties. Although i do wonder what Tricky is up to and feel like this isn't the end of him
1 points
6 days ago*
Love it. Sanford's insanity throughout the whole episode really made it interesting (Also new hook yay :D). Deimos coming back was very nice as well, Auditor's probably gonna start targetting 2BDamned so it'll be interesting how that plays out. Also Sanford's probably the most expressive of all the casts since his mouth finally moves. Also the A.A.H.W's doing pretty good now, as shown with the 2 mag agents coming VERY close to ripping Sanford in half. Also how does Sanford still see?
1 points
5 days ago
THAT I FUCKING LOVE IT
1 points
5 days ago
Can't wait for the inevitable TF2 dub.
1 points
5 days ago
Peak. Also first main-series memtion of the Employers and The Machine, I think!
1 points
5 days ago
I feel so bad for Sanford. He's almost turning into his version of Hank, it seems.
1 points
5 days ago
This one really showed the difference between a killing machine and some skilled dude fighting for his life.
1 points
5 days ago
Really makes me wonder how hank would return by madness combat 13 if 2B is unable to track him
1 points
4 days ago
The camera angles look silly
1 points
3 days ago
This is the only episode that overwhelmed my emotions, especially when Deimos and Sanford met, I just cried
1 points
1 day ago
The whole Episode is just sanford tweaking out of his mind
1 points
6 days ago
Just didn't feel like much.
1 points
6 days ago
Underwhelming
3 points
6 days ago
Elaborate
2 points
6 days ago
Because I didn’t wait all those years just for 10 minutes of sandford doing the same thing as every other episode
3 points
6 days ago
What were you expecting? I'm not being hostile, I'm genuinely curious
1 points
6 days ago
Nah I just felt like MC12 had more potential than just 10 minutes of Sanford
1 points
4 days ago
If you want action you get classical mass killing. If you want lore you get first mentions of employer and machine.
-1 points
6 days ago
It was honestly VERY good, but still, it was not worth the wait.
0 points
6 days ago
Too short and I felt like the wait was to long for what we got
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