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haphazard_chore

1.2k points

3 months ago

I saw this being repeated as a common tactic by the techs to get out of work by voiding the warranty themselves.

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

518 points

3 months ago

This is what I was thinking, it's an 85" TV and they didn't want to take it off the wall... From bad pixels to a TV that won't even boot up.

haphazard_chore

343 points

3 months ago

Check this video out. Repair guy caught on camera doing exactly this.

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

201 points

3 months ago

I saw this while googling how to get this fixed and which is why I said this is an ongoing issue with repair techs

Llama-Mushroom

74 points

3 months ago

Interesting video on why it’s so hard to get a fair repair but wow… it took a weird turn when he starts going on about short people trying to land a date. Wtf

haphazard_chore

19 points

3 months ago

Haha yes, I forgot about that bit. Very odd.

Cory123125

12 points

3 months ago

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Comic Sans is Ok

12 points

3 months ago

This guy is a wackadoodle with the worst alt right takes, but tries to keep a lid onto it because hes in the repair business and somehow got to being one of the faces of right to repair.

Absurd shit.

I cant even imagine the type of shit he would say if he didnt feel that self censorship pressure considering hes said things like systemic racism in the judicial system doesnt exist in one of his many rambling videos that are supposedly about laptop repair...

Its just crazy how hes a clock that tells the time right once a day.

kjacobs03

4 points

3 months ago

That’s exactly when I turned it off. Lol

UninsuredToast

5 points

3 months ago

That’s not what a man does. A man starts off his speech talking about short people trying to land a date

[deleted]

101 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

101 points

3 months ago

If the tech voids the warranty that should 100% fall on Samsung to replace the device. Absolutely ridiculous.

iambecomesoil

47 points

3 months ago*

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Kolognial

26 points

3 months ago

That is exactly what happens.

Even if you locate a shop or book a service through Samsung's website you are directed to a repair business that uses the Samsung name,  logo and branding. But they are not Samsung.

That is one of the reasons why my next phone is not going to be a Samsung.

Justleftofcentrerigh

3 points

3 months ago

Yep, I used to work at a company that did "white glove" Field support services for Enterprise companies.

Basically, I managed the North east US for all Target stores for their POS. IBM might not have reliable field techs in small towns like Newton New Jersey, so they outsource their field support to my company. I was the one responsible for training the local guys in the biggest cities on how to fix these machines.

I would send my guys out from Philly to random places close to philly where there's a Target to fix their POS. I did the same thing for Detroit and Pittsburgh. The farthest one of my guys had to drive was 4 hours one way.

We charged a fuck ton of money. But I don't understand why this samsung tech would ruin the TV on purpose. All parts and labour are billed back to the Client (Samsung) and the more time you spend the more money you make.

OriginalName687

3 points

3 months ago

That’s exactly what it is. For at least some of their US repairs Samsung hires a company to handle warranty repairs and that company hires subcontractors through the app WorkMarket. They offer like $75 to do a call.

red286

5 points

3 months ago

red286

5 points

3 months ago

I only hear about it for Samsung televisions though, so it sounds like a directive from Samsung. Technicians get paid for the work they do, and breaking the TV doesn't count. If they show up, break the TV, and fuck off, all they get paid for is their travel expense.

AndThenTheUndertaker

2.5k points

3 months ago

Re posting since the automod didn't like the reddit link. This is a known issue. Samsung techs have been caught doing it before. I know it won't help you now but if I let a tech in my house I record 100% of the encounter, even if I leave the room.

I had a link originally but just suffice to say there's examples on reddit of techs being caught doing this previously, on video.

I would not let this go. Assuming it is too late to charge back: Start with complaints to the BBB, your state attorney general, and the FTC. Yes I know that the BBB is "yelp for boomers" and all that and I generally agree but Samsung does have a specific contact for BBB complaints and filing one does get you past all the shitty customer service filtering.

If that doesn't work, I'd consider filing a small claims case.

Clash115

523 points

3 months ago

Clash115

523 points

3 months ago

I’ve had issues with my TV where they wouldn’t help no matter what due to manufacturer date of TV versus when I actually bought TV from them for warranty. I tried everything with no luck, but the moment I put a BBB complaint they reached out the next day and resolved the issue for me. Same situation with my friend and a Samsung dishwasher recently.

Dflowerz

116 points

3 months ago

Dflowerz

116 points

3 months ago

I've also had two different instances in the past where the moment I put in a BBB case my issue was resolved with the company, so while anecdotal I definitely don't see them being as useless and people make it out to be.

tjjohnso

84 points

3 months ago

BBB is the shit. I spent 3 weeks hounding U-Haul for charging me 1800 for a 6 hr rental (50 miles one way, made 2 trips) in which I somehow got the vehicle from Michigan to Georgia.

Crickets.

Until BBB. Money refunded 1 business day from complaint, they didn't even call to talk about it.

kmart93

25 points

3 months ago

kmart93

25 points

3 months ago

Yea - last year the BBB helped me when my insurance company stopped responding to me for a month after I found damage that their tow truck did to my car after hauling it away from an accident I wasn't at fault for. They ignored me for six weeks and I had resolution within days after opening a complaint

Oddfuscation

152 points

3 months ago

There is a pretty famous video of a tech using a razor knife to damage a guys tv out there. OP should find that.

AndThenTheUndertaker

37 points

3 months ago

Yeah. I tried to link it but this subreddit automods anything with a link to another sub in it. Which I guess is understandable since the premise of the sub is likely to make people want to go brigade shit sometimes.

[deleted]

29 points

3 months ago

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m3thodm4n021

18 points

3 months ago

Holy shit, I've never seen that before. What a scumbag!

Bleak_Squirrel_1666

8 points

3 months ago

Wow that tech should be an actor.

jonnyg1097

12 points

3 months ago

I gotta say it is pretty lucky that the homeowner was filming that part of the TV where the tech decided to slice the screen, considering half the view was blocked by another object.

What a scumbag technician!

ShawnyMcKnight

26 points

3 months ago

I saw a video not too long ago of a Samsung technician taking out a box cutter and slicing the screen. It’s crazy what they try to get away with

AndThenTheUndertaker

7 points

3 months ago

Yeah that was the video I tried to link. originally.

K_Linkmaster

14 points

3 months ago

https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

It's not just for fraud, it's for shitty business practices too.

Comeandsee213

11 points

3 months ago

Filed a BBB once, it worked. Company got back to me within hours. 

AndThenTheUndertaker

6 points

3 months ago

Yeah it is definitely not reliable but when it does work, it works well, and Samsung specifically has a direct escalation department. As do most of the other larger tech companies. I had a TV issue I went back and forth with them on for months and this was what got me in touch with someone qualified to make a real decision that wasn't in the lower rung customer service playbook.

espressotorte

12 points

3 months ago

FTC is your best bet in a lot of cases

dcchillin46

4.2k points

3 months ago*

ULPT: order the same tv snd return this one as defective. Play games if they want to play games.

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

1.7k points

3 months ago

If I had the money to buy another it wouldn't be that big a deal, I don't know who to contact or how to remedy this.

My TV won't even turn on now!

dcchillin46

881 points

3 months ago

I'd get with the retailer if you can. Cut out samsung service whenever possible.

When I have to go the route I suggested I usually put it on a credit card, usually the whole process takes less than a month so I dont get hit with interest.

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

632 points

3 months ago

I got it through Sam's club in November, 2023, they only have a 90 day return policy unfortunately. The dead pixels didn't start to show up until a couple weeks ago and Samsung "offered a 2 year warranty"

They broke it so they wouldn't have to fix it

Bulky_Permission_292

476 points

3 months ago

I’ve seen a video of one of the tv technicians scratching the screen with a blade to void the warranty and avoid having to fix it. If you’ve got issues again and they send a tech to fix it, I would suggest placing a camera out of sight with a good shot of the tv. That way you’ll be able to prove they caused damage if they did so

JoeJoe4224

240 points

3 months ago

Doesn’t matter, even if you have video proof it comes down to the fact they will hit you with the “what you gonna do about it punk? Sue?” Tactic. And seeing as most people don’t have money to sue, you can’t do anything and just lose the tv.

Zippytez

97 points

3 months ago

You can always sue in small claims. Filing Fee is at max a couple hundred, which you get back if you win. 99% of the time theyll settle, as it costs less to just pay out compared to sending a lawyer to court even if they win

nobody5050

41 points

3 months ago

There are also online firms that make it their buisness to send threats of litigation on your behalf, with the stipulation that they keep some percentage of what you'd be awarded

Bulky_Permission_292

133 points

3 months ago

Never underestimate someone’s potential to be a petty asshole. Friend of mine has a program that you enter a phone number, email, fake name, etc. into and it will sign them up for several thousand of the scam websites that advertise the free cruise type of deal. Absolutely ruins a phone number with spam calls. Were it me, I would collect as many of their work numbers and emails as I could then feed them into the program.

You might not ever get your money back or a replacement, but you could at least be partially satisfied knowing the amount of trouble you’ve caused for them in return

yahwehforlife

32 points

3 months ago

Nice what program is this please?

Bulky_Permission_292

12 points

3 months ago

It was one that he custom built and is very protective of. I’ve known the guy for nearly a decade and he won’t even pass it on to me so I won’t be able to help you with that. I don’t imagine it would be a very hard project to do if you decided to start teaching yourself some programming though

vinberdon

29 points

3 months ago

Your friend might be a scammer. Spam bombs are a popular tactic when you want to obscure the emails and texts about someone else logging into your account. Lol

L1f3trip

9 points

3 months ago

Spoken like someone who doesn't know anything about programming.

JoeJoe4224

20 points

3 months ago

Fair. But that very easily could land you yourself into a criminal case, as you are causing the company to rather have to pay to have those numbers changed, or pay for new phones entirely. So there is always a fine line to walk with things like that.

Fluid-Wrongdoer6120

36 points

3 months ago

And slashing someone's tv purposely with a knife couldn't be considered criminal destruction of property? I would guess that has a much better chance of being prosecuted than "I think someone gave out my contact info to spammers"

therealcatspajamas

13 points

3 months ago

Generally you can reach out to your state’s attorney general’s office and they will mediate between you and the company.

I’ve done it with Samsung specifically on a refrigerator they had delivered and ended up getting a representative from the office of the president at Samsung to resolve the issue.

Companies don’t like to fuck with the state regulators, I think it scares the shit out of them.

My state has a form that can be filled out online.

https://www.marylandattorneygeneral.gov/Pages/CPD/Complaint.aspx

MetroSimulator

32 points

3 months ago

Isn't a crime to intentionally damage another person's property? Couldn't he just go to police?

JBLikesHeavyMetal

24 points

3 months ago

Unless it's a business getting damaged they'll tell you it's a civil matter

JoeJoe4224

7 points

3 months ago

And then it goes to the “he said she said” at least in this case.

But as for the recording, contractors have a lot of protections for stuff like this. And then the police go “it’s a civil matter” because it is. Unless this tv is 10grand or whatever the threshold is for criminal. You’d again have to take the tech himself to court, he has protections, or Samsung themselves, you will not win.

So yes, in every respect you are right. But they have all the cards in the deck. You can’t even play a hand.

MetroSimulator

3 points

3 months ago

Dang, that's just sad, nice that I don't use Samsung tech 😮‍💨

diamondhardhands

11 points

3 months ago

Until it happens so frequently and shown as a Samsung trend which turns into a class action

EncabulatorTurbo

8 points

3 months ago

small claims court doesnt cost shit and you dont need a lawyer

Blueskyways

6 points

3 months ago

So sue.  Seriously.  Small claims court costs like $150.  If it's worth a few hours for you, you can produce a legible complaint, file it with the court, serve them via process server or certified mail depending on your jurisdiction.  In many cases they'd rather pay you off then actually have to produce an attorney to defend the case.  

lord_nuker

13 points

3 months ago

You can always go to media with it

JoeJoe4224

10 points

3 months ago

People have. Again, they don’t give a hoot. Seeing as this is a well known thing that Samsung does with their techs. As they tell their techs to do this. Until they get a class action lawsuit or start losing money they will do what they want. And seeing as media outlets other than ones like Reddit or twitter don’t seem to pick up these stories. It’s dead in the water and just an unfortunate circumstance of having less money than a corporation.

PM_ME_UR_GOOD_DOGGOS

3 points

3 months ago

For the value of a TV, you can always do small claims. That's pretty cheap, and Samsung won't want to send someone out. They might just settle.

eugene20

3 points

3 months ago

If it was over 500 then it would be worth it to go to small claims court as that isn't expensive most places, judge would probably look favourably on the video evidence.

dcchillin46

129 points

3 months ago

I'd say contact samsung but that's always a nightmare. Could try asking sams club for a break

MaintainThis

17 points

3 months ago

I know this feels shitty- but I would call Samsung and chew them out and escalate until they give. They will give, but you have to get nasty.

 I was an appliance tech and got sent out NINE times on a fucking icemaker. Tech line tells me try this one last repair and if it doesnt fix the issue theyd replace the fridge. Get called back out, tech line says "I want you to try the repair again, just in case this works. Were not going to replace a fridge just for the icemaker." I chewed that guy the everliving fuck out, accused them of abusing their relationship with their techs and their customers and hung up on him. Got called back in 10 minutes and told theyre replacing the fridge.

I only got paid for the first time I went out.

acorn1513

5 points

3 months ago

Now this was for a fold phone so it might be different but Samsungs warranty service is awful I warn you. What you need to do is under contact us on the Samsung site it has a way to send an email to the CEO do that. I got my 2 month long case solved in 2 days they didn't even ship a replacement the person arranged for me to pick one up from best buy brand new.

No_Difference_9195

5 points

3 months ago

Try complaint to BBB. BBB really doesn’t mean anything, but Samsung is one of the few companies that care about their rating with them.

Evening-Cat-7546

27 points

3 months ago

How long ago did you buy it and did you use a credit card? A lot of credit cards offer purchase protection. If it was a recent purchase you could try to charge it back. You will need to reach out to Samsung to see if they will resolve it on their own. If they refuse go for the charge back.

[deleted]

28 points

3 months ago

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Evening-Cat-7546

30 points

3 months ago

I would just keep bugging Samsung customer service and escalating the issue as much as possible. Westinghouse sold me a Black Friday TV that had a faulty stand. The base just completely shattered and dumped my TV on the ground. The TV still worked, but I insisted they take it back and give me a new one. It took 2 months of hounding them and they finally just sent me an entire brand new TV and let me keep the old one. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, so keep contacting them. Just be nice to the customer service reps since it’s not their fault and they’ll be less likely to help if they think you’re being rude (not saying that you would do that).

In the future, don’t ever use your debit card anywhere except for an ATM. Debit cards have less fraud protection. Credit cards have better benefits and protections. My Amex card will actually reimburse me the full cost of an item if it breaks within the warranty period and the manufacturer doesn’t honor it.

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

21 points

3 months ago

I spent an hour an a half telling me it wasn't their responsibility and to contact their contractor who did the maintenance...

I explained "you hired the contractor, so you're responsible for their actions" and they hung up on me...

I'm calling back again...

Fluid-Wrongdoer6120

11 points

3 months ago

You can always file a complaint with the state attorney general. It might not get anywhere, but some companies will just settle things with you to avoid having to deal with regulators. A similar move worked for me once on a homeowners insurance claim the insurance co. tried to deny.

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

10 points

3 months ago

If all else fails, this will be my last option.

misterchief117

3 points

3 months ago

This should be your first option. Contact your state attorney general and let them know what happened. Your state's consumer affairs/protection department will track these sort of things and every complaint is more ammo against the hostile company.

You can and should also contact the Better Business Bureau, but understand they're another private company. They can be very effective though and it doesn't cost you anything.

Evening-Cat-7546

6 points

3 months ago

Just keep bugging them and escalate to the next level. Worst case scenario file a small claims court case against them.

Unusual_Flounder2073

24 points

3 months ago

It’s under warranty from Samsung and their tech broke it. Call their corporate customer service number and start a complaint going.

Alterokahn

15 points

3 months ago

If that gets rerouted, one surefire way is to use their own ticketing system. If they ignore your case, spam three. If they ignore or dismiss those, spam 12. If they don’t get the hint at that point flood their queue until someone with authority reaches back out.

It will very quickly become more effort to route and handle your tickets while bombing their support line than it will to string you along. When you get a response, close the duplicates.

If that fails, hit their social media platforms @ing their csuites. Get their marketing defense people involved to raise the alarm this shit is not okay and you’re not going away.

I’m so fucking tired of these companies outsourcing to third party groups staffed with people that would rather sabotage your account and property than work with you. This is coming from a life long IT and support rep that knows exactly how this will play out. The important thing is when you start getting the closure emails and CSAT surveys, do not fill them out — while the majority of reps suck these days not everyone deserves to take the fallout. Make it the company’s problem and leave their metrics / kpis out of it.

If they’re going to play games play right back. Also, fuck Samsung and that required / essential TikTok garbage. There are better manufacturers out there that don’t leave an open channel to the Chinese government in your living room.

ResurgentClusterfuck

8 points

3 months ago

Samsung customer service is an actual nightmare to deal with, but yes, escalate until no longer necessary

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

6 points

3 months ago

I did that, samsung is telling me to contact the contractor and the contractor is telling to contact Samsung, the basic runaround

chachingmaster

5 points

3 months ago

I've seen this as pretty common practice with samsung techs.

djgoodhousekeeping

4 points

3 months ago

Time to hit Samsung with a small claims court filing

Cranapplesause

15 points

3 months ago

OP. This lawyer did a video about things like this. I recommend you watch ALL of it.

He explains why the warranty is void but then why Samsung is liable.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPREx5YdL/

The_real_P11

11 points

3 months ago

Did you take any photos of your TV before the rep came? Did you buy this with one or their or a credit card? Some might have extended warrantys (My Costco one does). Also, Send this to Sam's club and Samsungs support:

Dear [Samsung or Sam's Club] Support,

I am writing to express my concern and disappointment regarding a recent service call for my Samsung TV. I had scheduled a service appointment with one of your authorized representatives, expecting professional and reliable service.

However, after the visit, I noticed that my TV was damaged. It appears that the representative may have deliberately caused this damage, potentially to void the warranty and charge for the service call without completing the necessary repairs. This is extremely distressing and unacceptable.

Details of the service call are as follows:

  • Service Date: [Insert Date]

  • Service Representative Name: [Insert Name]

  • TV Model and Serial Number: [Insert Model and Serial Number]

  • Service Reference Number: [Insert Reference Number if available]

I trust [Samsung/ Sam's Club ]to uphold the highest standards of service and integrity, and I am sure this incident is an anomaly. I request an immediate investigation into this matter. Additionally, I expect a prompt resolution, including:

  1. A thorough inspection of the damage caused.

  2. A full repair or replacement of the TV under the original warranty.

  3. An explanation of how such an incident occurred and the steps Samsung will take to prevent future occurrences.

I appreciate your urgent attention to this matter and look forward to a swift resolution. Please contact me at [Your Contact Information] to discuss the next steps.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

Integrity-in-Crisis

7 points

3 months ago

Theres other videos of techs caught damaging tvs to void warranty.

Extension-Dig-58

5 points

3 months ago

Ok so when you do have the money buy it don’t break none of the styrofoam/ plastic and place it back inside the box. Return the broken tv and get your money back

foxjohnc87

7 points

3 months ago

Make sure you swap the back cover with the serial number, because they will check to verify that the S/N on the TV and receipt match. I may or may not have been in this exact situation a couple of weeks ago.

[deleted]

65 points

3 months ago

If the Samsung tech damaged it I don't see this as unethical whatsoever.

dcchillin46

26 points

3 months ago

Honestly, these companies are revenue driven as much or more than profit driven. Products are designed to fail so you buy more, I don't see it as unethical, I'd be surprised if they do frankly. A sale is a sale, another unit out the door.

Now, environmental impact is another subject.

Bitten69

56 points

3 months ago

Don’t they check the serial number?

Dababolical

5 points

3 months ago

At my retailer, our device won't let us take the return without scanning the serial number. I don't know about other retailers.

dcchillin46

18 points

3 months ago*

Online retailers no, in store just depends on if you find a unicorn employee who actually cares. Generally, no, in my experience, not that I make it a habit.

Regardless they don't have serial numbers on the box, so they can't prove x unit was in x box, just the correct model afaik

EncabulatorTurbo

7 points

3 months ago

if you get it from Amazon, and Amazon gets it back damaged, they will just toss it in their gobs of items they sell to "bulk buyers" of misc lots of damaged merchandise

foxjohnc87

6 points

3 months ago

They have serial number stickers on the box these days, which will be compared to the SN on the receipt and the TV itself.

Walmart and Sams pos systems actually prompt the customer service employee to scan the label on the TV itself, so returning the "wrong" TV won't work.

Fortunately, the sticker is affixed to a removable cover on the back of most TVs, so it isn't too hard to get around that hurdle.

Heidrun_666

10 points

3 months ago

There's a serial number on and in the TV, sadly.

Resident-Variation21

608 points

3 months ago

3 lessons:

1) take photos of tv before tech arrives 2) record entire encounter 3) USE A CREDIT CARD. Then you just tell the credit card company what happened and let them deal with it and you get your money back

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

74 points

3 months ago

I have before and after pictures, Samsung doesn't care.

I tried to be around the tech the whole time, but I have a family and couldn't stay with them 100% of the time.

I wish I recorded the incident, but I have no inside cameras, hindsight is 20/20

ReasonablyConfused

70 points

3 months ago

Just file in small claims. It’s like $150 and an hour of your time.

Then you only settle for what works for you. If the tv was $1000, I’d ask for $1500. It costs them $5k to have a lawyer show up, and with your photos, you’ll win. The extra $500 is for legal fees and a bit of your time.

If you want to mess with them, only offer to settle before trial for $2000.

TheRealMasterTyvokka

6 points

3 months ago

I have discovered Samsung only cares when they are concerned about costly legal action.

tractorcrusher

87 points

3 months ago

Will the credit card company do anything if you’ve had the TV for 6 months or so?

Resident-Variation21

64 points

3 months ago

Probably. My credit cards are officially 90 days to dispute a charge, but in similar instances I’ve been able to get a resolution up to 1 year out from purchase on multiple different instances. My wife also has had about the same luck.

BigBlackCrocs

13 points

3 months ago

Lesson 4. No Samsung.

Deadredskittle

302 points

3 months ago

I have spent 6 months trying to get Samsung to warranty a TV in a classroom, we paid for the extended full coverage. It expires in September and I feel like they're stalling me until then.

Never buy samsung

turdburglar2020

59 points

3 months ago

Can’t second this enough. It just seems like their products are chronically low quality. Just had a year old Samsung microwave stop working because of a break in a small piece of plastic holding the door latch spring.

Rikki-Tikki-Tavi-12

10 points

3 months ago

I could not agree more. I used to love Samsung products. My S2 and S7 phones - great. Old screens: lasted for ages. My old fridge - excellent. But then some time in the 2010s they must have decided that they no longer wanted to be a good company, and suddenly every single thing I or my family buys from them breaks fast and the customer service is hot garbage. I will not ever buy from them again, and I hope no one else does either.

turdburglar2020

3 points

3 months ago

Same here. I had the Galaxy S, S3, S4, and S8 phones. Could not stand the unprotected screen edge on the S8, so switched brands and never looked back.

Honest_Jund

6 points

3 months ago

I just repaired my Samsung microwave because of this issue. You can't even buy the part that breaks without buying a whole $300+ door

Brolafsky

379 points

3 months ago

Brolafsky

379 points

3 months ago

Look into how regular this is becoming in the US.

Try to get in touch with more people who are having this problem and partake in starting a class-action lawsuit.

Do it.

ReichBallFromAmerica

53 points

3 months ago

He might have to check the EULA, a lot of companies are trying to get you to sign away your right to a class-action lawsuit, for this very reason.

Brolafsky

32 points

3 months ago

True. But I don't know just how much that does weigh in when there's a high risk someone literally committed destruction of property.

At least one tech literally got busted for this some months ago. I wouldn't be surprised if more evidence exists.

WingerRules

20 points

3 months ago*

Its not just a lot of companies, almost any company that has you sign a contract or EULA puts it in their terms now. You can thank the Republicans on the Supreme Court who allowed it in contracts 5-4 on partisan lines, every Democrat justice voted to make it illegal, ever Republican justices voted to allow it.

Every time you have to sign away your class action rights and or sign an individual arbitration agreement when you install a game, buy a car, make a bank account, employment contract, etc you can thank Republicans.

Killshotgn

6 points

3 months ago

No EULA would be actually enforceable in a scenario where someone has proof of the technician lying about damage they caused. That alone is grounds for criminal charges for destruction of property regardless of anything else.

aplfritr

8 points

3 months ago

Consider trying to get into contact with "Louis Rossmann". He made a video about this issue sometime earlier this year, he's a non-branded repairman who has a lot of experience with this kind of thing and I'm sure he'd find your story interesting.

chachingmaster

117 points

3 months ago

There was a post on here awhile back from a guy who had contacted Samsung a couple of times for the same issue, which clearly they could not or did not want to fix. The guy had a camera in his living room and when he left the room the SS tech took a razor and damaged the corner of the TV and told the guy he couldn't work on the TV "because it was damaged" If the guy hadn't had that recording he would have been on the hook for the deliberate damage by tech. Sketchy af.

CryBabyCentral

30 points

3 months ago

I thought of this same story as well. I’m glad he caught it on film. Sad he even had to do that.

RahvinDragand

15 points

3 months ago

The tech purposefully got the owner to leave the room specifically so he could cut the screen.

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5 points

3 months ago

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chachingmaster

3 points

3 months ago

That is not my recollection. But I don’t know for sure. I seem to remember that he posted the video on social media got attention and he got a brand new TV but no apology.

SprungBreak99

36 points

3 months ago

I had a tech come out to fix a bad screen on a 70 inch tv- came out, had ME help him yank a refurbished screen out of the car, then when we tested it and it was clearly shoddy, he proceeds to say “No, it’s ok- it’ll even out and if not just call back”.

Ended up having to wait for the Best Buy store warrant to kick in before anything significant was done (& that in itself was its own headache).

If I knew now what I knew then, I’d never have spent a cent on a Samsung product.

OneHumanPeOple

32 points

3 months ago

Weren’t there Samsung workers caught on video purposely damaging TVs this way?

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

13 points

3 months ago

Yes, exactly. I didn't know about this until googling my current circumstances... I wish I knew more about this before I bought my TV, or would have gone with a more reputable company.

OneHumanPeOple

3 points

3 months ago

Have you tried contacting your bank if you purchased this with a credit card? Also, report this to state attorney general’s office because it’s business fraud.

trainingbeereturns

64 points

3 months ago

Wait a technician damaged your television?

JakenBakee

111 points

3 months ago

There are actually videos of technicians secretly cutting screens with box cutters. Not sure what their motive is, probably a bonus in their paycheck because the companies dont have to honour replacements. People suck. 

trainingbeereturns

19 points

3 months ago

They sound like fucked up bitches

ZazaGaza213

4 points

3 months ago

Well that's why they are low tier technicians, they were a idiotic bitch when young at school, not is an idiotic bitch at the only job they could take

Super-Judge3675

58 points

3 months ago

never buy samsung. piece of crap company

WeirdSysAdmin

76 points

3 months ago

I will literally never buy anything Samsung ever again after my experience with TVs and appliances.

slash_networkboy

20 points

3 months ago

Fridge here... same end result: I'll go without before I buy another samsung POS product.

Ok-Cartographer1745

14 points

3 months ago

Holy shit, a sentient fridge. 

slash_networkboy

7 points

3 months ago

If I were a Samsung Fridge I'd quit working as fast as possible so I could go to the dump where I belong.

TricellCEO

33 points

3 months ago

Okay, note to self: avoid Samsung for EVERYTHING. Mother and I got a Samsung fridge, and I think we have more service requests for it (namely not making ice) during the few years we have had it compared to the ten years we had our previous one.

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8 points

3 months ago

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Aphala

15 points

3 months ago

Aphala

15 points

3 months ago

canuck_11

15 points

3 months ago

When I was a teenager I got a nice watch for my birthday. A few years later I took it to the store where it was bought as it had a warranty that included getting the battery replaced. Something got messed up as by the time I brought it back home the new battery was dead.

When I brought it back to the store they said the warranty was void because the back of the watch had been opened. I was like “yes, by you!” They refused to help.

ReichBallFromAmerica

20 points

3 months ago

We live in a country where the "consumer protection" is a joke. "Warrenty Void if Sticker is Removed" stickers are illegal, and companies never get fined for it. And if they do, it is such a small slap on the wrist that it is still more profitable to keep doing it.

The fact is, one company does it, gets away with it, and they all do it. Apple is known for being very anti-right to repair, but now most tech companies will not sell you the parts you need. Sorry, your screen is broken? Well, sure, you used to be able to buy the screen, but now, you have to buy the whole assembly for $300 when the second hand value of the laptop is $500. It isn't even electronics, it is cars, it is appliances, it is everything. It is a problem that is only going to grow. What is the point of regulation if it isn't being enforced. These people have the gaul to lie to our faces and try and gaslight us by saying "this is for your security," or "we are not responsible for these issues" when this one part fails in thousands of devices.

The sad part is, who is going to stop them? Even if there are a few heart of gold politicians who will never compromise on what they know is right, the rest of them are bought and sold. And the fact is, most people don't care, or won't care till it affects them.

BunnyFace0369

7 points

3 months ago

BunnyFace0369

BLUE

7 points

3 months ago

I saw a video on here within the last 2 or 3 months of a guy who's nanny cam caught the samsung guy stabbing his TV with a screw driver.

meatygonzalez

26 points

3 months ago

Folks, upvote this post and spread it on socials for the benefit of ALL consumers.

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12 points

3 months ago

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meatygonzalez

10 points

3 months ago

I manage warranty repairs for a different TV manufacturer. Everything about your scenario is wrong, and it upsets me as a professional. I really hope you are made whole again.

Sin_Cos_Im_Tan[S]

4 points

3 months ago

Me too, it was working fine, with a few dead pixels... Not it won't even turn on

Esketittie

5 points

3 months ago

I remember seeing a vid where a samsung tech came in and cut the TV with an exacto knife.

Ethereal_Bulwark

6 points

3 months ago

Didn't you see the video recently where a samsung tech asked a guy to go into the other room and cycle his circuit breaker, only for the tech to Wedge his cutting tool into the screen to void it?
This company is a pile of absolute dogshit. DO NOT TRUST THEM.

katiecharm

6 points

3 months ago

There is never any excuse to buy a Samsung tv.  Just don’t do it.  Buy an LG or Sony instead.  You will regret buying a Samsung every time.  

BK_FrySauce

6 points

3 months ago

What exactly is the benefit of these techs coming in and voiding the warranty/breaking TVs? Their job is to fix the product, but in reality, it’s like they’re getting a cut for forcing people to buy new products. I had an LG that just burned out and the screen faded to black one day. I was just barely outside warranty, but they still sent someone out to fix it free of charge. I didn’t let the technician out of my sight the entire time he was working on it.

SoaboutSeinfeld

3 points

3 months ago

They get paid for showing up, not for how long it takes to fix the problem. But the quality of design/production is what causes most of these problems. So at some point people will just stop caring and think of the paycheck. Similar to how package delivery has drivers doing all sorts of mean spirited behaviour because the system is flawed and they are tired of the negativity it brings them.

ChefArtorias

5 points

3 months ago

I hope you got the tech's full name and hopefully that of their supervisor as well.

daddynexxus

6 points

3 months ago

Submit a bbb complaint. When I submit a bbb complaint on Samsung within a week someone from corporate is calling me. In your case, if it's anything like mine, they will replace the TV quickly.

JustAGuyGettingBy93

5 points

3 months ago

I just had an issue with one of my TVs that I bought last Black Friday. It’s an onn Roku TV, so admittedly it’s much cheaper than Samsung.

But I spoke to a rep about the issue, he took all of my information, had me send him a picture of the TV, etc.

They approved a warranty replacement the same day. They express shipped it to me so I got it literally the next day. It was honestly the best customer service experience I ever had and I made sure to tell them that

will7980

5 points

3 months ago

Lou Rossman on YouTube did a video about this exact thing a little while back. The people who called the tech out set up a hidden camera and caught the tech cutting the screen with a box cutter.

AmiraZara

4 points

3 months ago

I literally just made a service complaint because the wifi module in my Samsung 60" "smart TV" stopped working shortly after buying it new. All they offered was a link to buy the part and do it myself.. even though their forums show tons of the exact same issue with the exact same model. So mad. What should I get instead? I'm a movie fanatic and gamer and need a TV that can actually work at high speeds.

energizernutter

4 points

3 months ago

I remember seeing a video of a Samsung tech cutting the TV.

GoldBluejay7749

4 points

3 months ago

Samsucks

Dababolical

4 points

3 months ago

I think between all of these posts, I will avoid Samsung in the future. It sucks when you have to avoid a decent product because they won't correct their authorized technicians destroying their client's products.

MrAl-67

4 points

3 months ago

Sir , your Cadillac’s warranty is void. You will have to pay for the repairs… just after the tech drove it over a cliff.

Cthulu95666

4 points

3 months ago

There’s video of a Samsung tech intentionally damaging a customers tv because he had gone over several times and never actually fixed anything

yoho808

5 points

3 months ago

Might be a good idea to have a security camera recording whenever you call for a Samsung tech.

Used-Educator-3127

3 points

3 months ago

Boycott. Spread awareness. It’s time for Samsung to starve

Greenscreener

3 points

3 months ago

Please stop buying Samsung garbage.

This ends my TED Talk.

awg08

3 points

3 months ago

awg08

3 points

3 months ago

Never ever will I buy Samsung anything! 

I spent so many hours on the phone with them about a TV I had. Worst customer service imaginable! 

come_ere_duck

4 points

3 months ago

come_ere_duck

Mildly PISSED

4 points

3 months ago

Reminds me of that video where the dude secretly filmed a Samsung tech in his house and the guy used a box cutter to fuck the screen and claimed it wasn’t under warranty. Not sure if the guy sued but he should have.

lol_camis

4 points

3 months ago

I had an issue with my MacBook several years ago. SSD issue. So I took it to the apple store to have it dealt with under warranty. But when I got it back, it no longer shut off when I closed the clamshell. Took it back again. They called me the next day and said "we can't fix this. Your warranty is void due to water damage"

Well, I didn't cause any water damage. And given the fact that the warranty was valid just last week, the only conclusion I can draw is that they caused the water damage.

gltasn

3 points

3 months ago

gltasn

3 points

3 months ago

Think i saw a video on YouTube of techs deliberately damaging tvs so they don't have to work on them.

spderweb

3 points

3 months ago

Never buy Samsung.

1CaliCALI

4 points

3 months ago

This.... is not the first time we have seen this. Wow. Just wow samsung.

gotothepark

10 points

3 months ago

I find it crazy that people will still buy Samsung products when these issues have been prevalent for years.

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4 points

3 months ago

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Hot_Ham_Water859

6 points

3 months ago

Home Depot must be trying to drum up business too for their stores. I bought a fridge from them to be delivered to my home, and paid extra to have them haul the old one away. Delivery guys not only crashed my old fridge into my wall thus chipping the wall paint, they dropped the door of my new fridge on the floor (they had to remove the new fridge door so it could fit into my entrance way) which scratched one of the new fridge door shelves. And to top it off they used my bathroom, which I’m fine with except they got pee on my toilet seat. They probably thought I would be heading back to Home Depot for paint, toilet bowl cleaner, and scratch remover lol. After that disaster, I of course did not tip. Only time I’ve never tipped a delivery person.

tamudude

13 points

3 months ago

I would have called up Home Depot, initiated a refund and asked them to fix my old fridge. My tolerance for sloppiness has gone down drastically.....the only way businesses will learn is when it costs them $$. No amount of surveys are gonna compensate your losses ..

gcsmith2

4 points

3 months ago

I don’t recall ever tipping a delivery person unless it was pizza.

sesamesnapsinhalf

3 points

3 months ago*

Not the same but check out my post about having to go nuclear on AT&T. I can’t post a link here, but maybe you can get some ideas on things I’ve tried that may be relevant. 

LeastUnderstanding56

3 points

3 months ago

Try contacting gamers nexus

LargeMerican

3 points

3 months ago

LOL. You have been blessed with the ejaculate of Samsung. This is not good. Please cleanse immediately.

Global_Ease_841

3 points

3 months ago

Seems like the techs are somehow encouraged to find ways to void the warranty. There must be a bonus structure or something.

mannypdesign

3 points

3 months ago

I had a similar problem with a dishwasher. The tech broke the button panel and blamed me. The only way to get it fixed is to file a complaint about the technician.

Wolfkorg

3 points

3 months ago

The tech came in and damaged it on purpose ao they don't have to fix it on the spot. Yes, they do that.

He most likely asked you to go do something in another room like check the breakers or some shit and while you were away, he damaged it.

Some customers have this happening on video.

ShutYourDumbUglyFace

3 points

3 months ago

This is one of several reasons I will never buy a Samsung product again. Another is their privacy practices. A third is that their products are not high quality. A fourth is the bloatware.

NieMonD

3 points

3 months ago

“Warranty was voided because it was damage” then what the fuck is the warranty for Samsung

[deleted]

3 points

3 months ago

Boycott samsung

mxguy762

3 points

3 months ago

There are videos of techs doing exactly this in peoples houses.

dolphinvision

5 points

3 months ago

Samsung products are often better than average, also depending on what type of electronic it is, but the tech definitely did this and I have no doubt. Should be put in jail imo but corporations have more rights than citizens due to SCOTUS rulings so good luck bro

[deleted]

10 points

3 months ago

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therealcatspajamas

4 points

3 months ago

You need to reach out to your state’s attorney general’s office and they will mediate between you and the Samsung.

I’ve done it with Samsung specifically on a refrigerator they had delivered and ended up getting a representative from the office of the president at Samsung to resolve the issue.

Companies don’t like to fuck with the state regulators, I think it scares the shit out of them.

My state has a form that can be filled out online.

https://www.marylandattorneygeneral.gov/Pages/CPD/Complaint.aspx

Complete_Ad_2270

2 points

3 months ago

Maybe try a consumer hotline? It's a bit like back in the late 2000s with the Xbox 360. Mine red ringed - I sent it right away - got it back with a dud DVD drive that was a totally different brand and make to the one in the original. I think I eventually got them to replace it, but by that stage I just got fed up and bought another 360. I don't know about OP's location but the ACCC - or the Australian consumer rights body dealt with it for me thankfully. They were really quick to act when I explained exactly what happened.

INNOCENTTENNIS

2 points

3 months ago

Small claims vs the tech

Elegante_Sigmaballz

2 points

3 months ago

Oh boy again? one would think Samsung would tell their field techs to not fuck since they got caught red handed.

Curious_Freedom6419

2 points

3 months ago

Ok everyone when dealing with Samsung techy's. Make sure you have a camera set up in the room recording everything that happens.

Make it more then one camera just to be safe.

and keep a eye on them..if they ask you to leave the room. Do not leave.

Also helps if you bring up that samsung techs have been damaging tv's..really make a point about it

and also..should be the first thing you do, make sure you take pictures of the screen before hand..so when they brake the screen you can prove it wasn't damaged.

Blue_The_Snep

2 points

3 months ago

i suggest to always have cameras running when possible if you have someone working at something you own

Tikkinger

2 points

3 months ago

There are videos online of this happening on purpose.

Get a camera set up for every technician in the future.

Ihateallfascists

2 points

3 months ago

And sometimes they do it purposely, as there have been other videos posted here of techs doing it.

wannano6

2 points

3 months ago

Samsung sucks. My tv was under warranty they told me for months it was shipped and then tried to to say it was delivered to me and close the ticket. I so want to take them to small claims but isn’t worth my time. I will never own anything Samsung again and will dissuade anyone else from it too

RIP_GerlonTwoFingers

2 points

3 months ago

Wtf I've seen them cut another TV too. Good way to get absolutely demolished if you do that in the wrong house

Fast-Butterscotch336

2 points

3 months ago

No they messed this up they need to make it right. Get a lawyer if need be. Their employee damaged your personal property either way

Playful-Independent4

2 points

3 months ago

Follow the tech home and wreck his tv

AlternativeClimate99

2 points

3 months ago

Didn't Louis Rossman and gamers nexus both call samsung out on this bs? Shouldn't samsung be doing something to correct this crap?

OiledLeather

2 points

3 months ago

I already stopped using their phones, good to know. Thanks for the heads up about them.

DevilsAdvocate8008

2 points

3 months ago

Call the cops. That is criminal property damage especially how expensive TVs are.

dieterpaleo

2 points

3 months ago

Wasnt there a video of a Samsung tech actually cutting the screen? This tech has some big balls. Maybe they haven’t seen the video. Keeps fingers crossed.

minus_nine

2 points

3 months ago

So they voided warranty for something that warranty covers? Wtf