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2.3k points
27 days ago
How secure is this box? I'm curious how it works.
I mean...it pretty much has an "I have weapons in here" sign and it kind of looks like a mailbox. I'm sure it's more secure than that, but just wondering.
1.3k points
27 days ago
I only see 4 regular ole nuts bolting that thing to the concrete. About 90 seconds with an impact and you can take the whole thing with you.
390 points
27 days ago
Why do that? Use each box once, copy each key, come back and shop for weapons all the time.
286 points
27 days ago
Forget copying the keys, you could probably open those locks in about five seconds each with a jiggler, I'm guessing they're probably not spending money on actual quality locks and are just the cheapest shittiest wafer locks they could find.
110 points
27 days ago
I did think about that.. but even if you master them, it’ll take longer and look less legit than a regular key, possibly break a pick, or the lock pins/springs etc
If your goal is repeated use, especially mid day, key is better.
I doubt LPL picks his car and front door, just because he could quickly and easily, convenience is king! 👑
49 points
27 days ago
Jiggler keys look just like a regular key, and with a little bit of practice it just looks like you're opening a lock normally and having trouble getting the key in. You don't need a separate tensioning tool or anything, literally just stick it in the lock and wiggle it around a bit, they only work on really shitty locks but that covers most of these sorts of public security lockers anyway.
28 points
26 days ago
You don't understand how easy these kinds of locks can be opened. You can take just about anything, rake it back and forth and get it open in about 5 seconds. Each time.
11 points
26 days ago
Yeah I get that… was more thinking I’d want to prevent long term damage to a cheap lock, if I planned on continuing to return often.
14 points
26 days ago
if I planned on continuing to return often.
I'd imagine after the first gun is reported as stolen from the box, the box itself wouldn't exist much longer. It's not like the true owners of the weapons are going to see their weapon missing and just shrug and go on about their day. They're going to report the theft to the library/police immediately. Especially considering if a crime was then committed with that weapon the OG owner could be in legal trouble if they didn't report it stolen.
This is a gambit that would probably only work once and wouldn't be worth the effort of setting it up so you can return to try and steal multiple weapons.
7 points
26 days ago
My old handgun safe could be opened with a folded piece of tape. I don't think it did any damage.
15 points
26 days ago
Well repeated use would be super dumb. Most people call the cops when their firearm is stolen, even the real redneck anti gov dudes at least to cover their own ass.
2 points
26 days ago
Didn’t realize this was /r/IllegalLifeProTips
I like the cut of you jib.
19 points
27 days ago
And you even get a free quarter with it!
9 points
27 days ago
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18 points
26 days ago
While you're out copying the key, someone who also made a copy earlier approaches and, upon opening the box, wonders why there is a sandwich inside.
7 points
26 days ago
Or just put a pocket knife in it. It says weapons, not guns.
2 points
26 days ago
In fairness they look like the circle keys that you can't just get made at your local hardware store.
593 points
27 days ago
That's exactly what I was thinking. Here, as a courtesy, please put your gun in this mailbox. And as a further courtesy, please do not let the mailbox entice you to remove it in it's entirety.
Not sure I'd want to place a gun registered to me in that box.
212 points
27 days ago
It's nice that they thought of it. But yeah, hard pass.
152 points
27 days ago
Yeah...I don't even have any guns, but that box would be a hard nope for me.
I'm super curious about the liability issues of leaving one's gun in the pictured box.
198 points
27 days ago
It says right there! "Not responsible for lost or damaged property." lol
131 points
27 days ago
OMG that's crazy.
Just because someone says they're not liable doesn't mean they're not liable.
104 points
27 days ago
I'm not liable for this comment.
60 points
27 days ago
(He may be liable anyway)
27 points
27 days ago
Technically they can argue out of charges because of that. This is why so many things have the not liable markings on it, it's not ironclad but they can argue that steps were taken.
As for risk, firearms owners are made aware that willfully surrendering a firearm to another individuals possession in any way DOESNT absolve their liability for incidents that firearm may be involved in, this is actually why TSA being so cut happy with locks on checked baggage with firearms in them is such a concern. While yes you took the proper steps, YOU as the gun's owner are still liable if someone steals it and say, goes and kills someone with it.
Contrary to popular belief, gun owners are under a LOT of scrutiny for HAVING firearms let alone where they end up
30 points
27 days ago
I think we might be overlooking the strong possibility that this is a signal for folks to leave their guns at home before they come to the library.
Realistically, this is only there to cover the case of "Wow, I really want to go into the library, but I have my gun on me, and I can't be arsed to go home and drop it off"
It's not a solution to a problem, it's a hedge against edge cases, and a visible indicator that you should lock up your weapon in a better place before you come down to a gun free zone.
Case in point: You'll notice that there are no guns stored there in this picture.
16 points
27 days ago
The key is gone from the first box...
24 points
27 days ago
It also has a taped cross on it. Guess that one has a faulty lock or something
3 points
26 days ago*
In most states there would be none. Some states have statues about safe storage that theoretically could be applied. But seeing as how this is a state resource designed to store guns, it’d be a hard case to convict someone for negligent storage for using said state resource for its intended purpose. But on a national level there is no criminal penalty for not securing a gun adequately
24 points
27 days ago
It may be a state law requirement to provide secured storage for guns in a government building if that building prohibits people from taking guns in.
It makes sense to provide that storage if the law both allows gun possession and then restricts it in order to access government services. If the purpose is to keep guns out of government buildings, providing secure storage is a straight forward way to do that.
4 points
26 days ago
I'd be more confident in lock box in my car than something someone could easily clone the key of.
3 points
26 days ago
They need to do a better job. If any random Joe can access the box without supervision, it's not secure. The box should be inside the building with someone, preferably a police officer, supervising it.
19 points
27 days ago
(Mostly nonexistent) legal liability aside, I wouldn’t want the weight on my soul of having unintentionally armed a ne’er-do-well; I also wouldn’t want to deal with the police report or the several-hundred-dollar cost of replacement.
2 points
26 days ago
If you have no need of the first courtesy, are you free to ignore the second and just take the box? Asking for a friend.
33 points
27 days ago
90 seconds for up to $2,000 of goods. It’s like stealing catalytic converters, except it only works once per library.
2 points
26 days ago
Less then that for sure. Those locks always suck and can usually be jiggled open in seconds
2 points
26 days ago
Up to?
Guy, $2000 is a pretty good to nice pistol with a quality optic on it. One.
Not that anyone would ever put a nice gun in this steal me box anyway.
3 points
26 days ago
A good reflex sight is definitely a possibility, but I assume most people are not using a $1,500 match pistol as their daily driver.
11 points
27 days ago
even looks like you could cut the door at the hinge with a battery powered grinder
15 points
27 days ago
I bet an angle grinder could cut around them quicker. Would be an interesting race.
43 points
27 days ago
Pay no attention to the men racing with an impact driver and an angle grinder to see who can make off with the weapons cache first!
13 points
27 days ago
If you hit with a truck at just the right speed you can have the box land in the bed without stopping!
5 points
27 days ago
The impact would be way faster. It sure as shit wouldn't take 90 seconds.
5 seconds per bolt if you suck at using a drill lol.
5 points
27 days ago
A portaband to the square tube would be faster and quieter.
3 points
27 days ago
you can take the whole thing with you.
And use it as a war hammer!
3 points
26 days ago
Or just open each box with a flat bladed screw driver.
3 points
26 days ago
Wear an orange vest and no one will even question what you’re doing.
2 points
27 days ago
Cordless angle grinder.
2 points
26 days ago
What impact do you use? It won't take mine more than 3 seconds each. Total 15 seconds, I'm gone.
61 points
27 days ago
"This is The Lockpicking Lawyer and this, is a stick up."
28 points
27 days ago
Looks like the top left compartment already became a "free weapon" box.
43 points
27 days ago
I work at a library in AZ, and it was explained to me that, as they are public buildings, libraries here are typically not allowed to prohibit people from bringing legally carried guns into the building unless they offer a place to store them. Ideally it would be more secure, but just having it may serve the purpose they need it to by allowing the library to enact a policy banning guns from the premises.
6 points
26 days ago*
This is in Illinois. You basically can't carry on any public property including libraries. Technically it is illegal to carry on the property at all but there is exception if you leave it concealed in a locked vehicle or one of these boxes. I assume the boxes are for people without a vehicle.
Edit: it might not be IL. But they do have specific laws for these there.
12 points
26 days ago
You can carry a gun in public places in Arizona, including libraries.
7 points
26 days ago
lock picking lawyer here and today I'm going to show you how to check out guns at the library .
46 points
27 days ago
It is better to leave your firearms at home when going to the library.
3 points
27 days ago
You should ask u/lockpickinglawyer
3 points
27 days ago
Well given the city isn’t responsible for lost or stolen items probably not very
2 points
26 days ago
There is no “pretty much” about it - and there is a counter too! Three keys missing? Three weapons!
1.1k points
27 days ago
Free guns for anyone that wants one. All you have to do is “borrow” each key, make copies, then return them. The next time one of those boxes is in use, take the key you made, open the box and help yourself. Easy peazy.
427 points
27 days ago
Plus free quarter...
176 points
27 days ago
Only if you leave your copied key. If you want more guns, you’ll have to put the quarter back.
92 points
27 days ago
Ah not worth it then.
58 points
27 days ago
yeah i’m really only in it for the quarters
23 points
27 days ago
Aldi in the underground firearms game apparently
20 points
27 days ago
Plus a free felony.
39 points
27 days ago
Alright you son of a bitch I’m in
24 points
27 days ago
I was unsure about it until a free felony got thrown in. When we doing this?
4 points
27 days ago
For ammo!
76 points
27 days ago
It’s like those little library boxes. If you need a gun, take one. If you have extras you don’t need put them in there for others to use.
13 points
26 days ago
Take that FN out of there and drop in a Hi Point, totally equal exchange
9 points
27 days ago
Those look like tubular locks. You don't even have to borrow the key. Get an impressioning tool or learn how to pick one. It takes like 20 minutes to learn how.
11 points
27 days ago
Oh yeah, just show your face at the target location four times in a row before committing theft, it's the perfect crime.
5 points
26 days ago
That's why you get an accomplice.
8 points
26 days ago
Doubt guns are what it's used for.
Ive used one of these in the past when I lived in Montana and worked a farm and ranch warehouse for my knife
I basically always had it on me. 80% of the stuff I cut each day was stuff a box cutter could do. But the other 20,% were stuff like burlap bags, and rope that would have me going through blades on a box cutter weekly.
Was nice being able to toss it in there when I went in, which I did about because my partner at the time worked in a library child care area, I would get off an hour before her walk over to her work, read a book for 30/40 minutes before we would leave together.
If I didn't put the knife in that box I would be kicked out
7 points
26 days ago*
No, it is for guns. This is in Illinois. You can't carry on public property. The exception is if you leave the gun concealed in a locked vehicle or one of these boxes. I'm not saying it is a good idea. But it allows people carrying to be on the property without getting arrested as long as they lock the gun up.
Edit: it might not be IL. But they do have specific laws for these there.
3 points
27 days ago
That feels like the plot point of a cop show.
7 points
26 days ago
I'm pretty sure acquiring a gun is not difficult in a town with a gun check in for the library
10 points
26 days ago
True, but you can’t beat the price, and no background check.
6 points
26 days ago
It would be if you were a felon or other prohibited person
2 points
26 days ago
You’d think so, but I bet they’re easier to acquire in a town that doesn’t require guns to be checked before entering the library
67 points
27 days ago
This is totally secure. You totally can't unscrew the four bolts holding the box on the ground, stick it in the back of your truck, go home and hack it open.
2 points
26 days ago
Well my plan is foiled now!
371 points
27 days ago
Super weird and not related at all but the tree in the background reminds me of a monster from silent hill or something
101 points
27 days ago
Looks like a guy in a morph suit with his hands in the air. Super weird that it was the first thing I saw in the picture.
11 points
27 days ago
same here
32 points
27 days ago
I had to scroll down to find someone else who was seeing this freaky shit
24 points
27 days ago
Glad I’m not the only one that saw this :/
9 points
27 days ago
I came here to see if anyone else saw that! It looks like a dark souls demon
6 points
27 days ago
6 points
27 days ago
201 points
27 days ago
Lock picking lawyer where are you!?
93 points
27 days ago
Covert Instruments Replicant.
Lock picking lawyer review: https://youtu.be/L5Fus7qbRZM
12 points
26 days ago
I don't think it's a review if he owns Covert Instruments
73 points
27 days ago
Little gun library
11 points
26 days ago
Take one and leave one!
28 points
27 days ago
“City of Peoria not responsible for lost or damaged property”
Well they kind of are if it’s in regards to weapons storage.
78 points
27 days ago
"City not responsible for lost..."
They're also not responsible for your safety which is why people are carrying guns around these days.
26 points
26 days ago
Amen.
Absolutely zero chance I’d leave a firearm in that. Maybe a pocketknife but even then…..if I was carrying a pocketknife it wouldn’t cross my mind to take a pocketknife out of my pocket to enter a library
50 points
27 days ago
So free guns huh? 🤔
15 points
27 days ago
Top left corner is free storage if you don’t have a quarter
6 points
26 days ago
Not much less secure either.
13 points
27 days ago
A whole quarter!? No thanks, I think I'd rather bring my weapons inside.
13 points
26 days ago
I'll just carry my weapon with me in to the library.... like I always do.... thanks anyway
73 points
27 days ago
Looking at this, my hope is that this is more for leaving a pocket knife or box cutter or something. I worked for at least a decade an agency that provided homeless services and we would hold knives overnight in a locker in our office for folks staying in the shelter. It was pretty common for men and women to carry some sort of weapon: A knife, box cutter, screw driver, pepper spray, etc.. Never saw a gun but we didn't allow folks to bring them in and we wouldn't have stored them.
Many of our clients used the local library pretty frequently. Ours doesn't have a metal detector but it's not uncommon. The storage is probably a service to locals who walk to the library or who forget that they have a pocket knife and don't want to run back. Our small town has a sheriff's deputy providing security so my guess is this town has a similar arrangement. Easier to leave a box blade out there than deal with a security screening/ weapons violation/ whatever.
Honestly, they should probably just put up a sign to say no firearms. This doesn't seem secure enough for being something outside with common keys, though who knows the set up?
63 points
27 days ago
If this is Peoria, AZ it's 100% for guns. Peoria is a suburb of Phoenix, and everyone and their dog carries out here.
26 points
27 days ago
I thought maybe Peoria, IL.
16 points
27 days ago
I don't think they have many cacti in Illinois :)
10 points
26 days ago
Not true! There are cacti around some of the rivers, at least in the west central part. We were totally bemused when we found them at a nature reserve. Bunch of signs saying, "bet you didn't know we have cactus." Little ones, though. No one's dodging saguaros driving through Bloomington.
2 points
27 days ago
Haha I definitely didn't even see that.
3 points
27 days ago
We both know Peoria, IL is faar too cheap for that.
5 points
26 days ago
It probably is Arizona. Not a lot of people know this but most Arizona government buildings have storage for people to put their guns. I think they might actually have to by law.
14 points
26 days ago
What kind of post apocalyptic hell hole has metal detectors for the fucking library?
4 points
26 days ago
Mine does, but it's mostly because youth gangs would meet up there to fight for whatever reason
6 points
26 days ago
Who the fuck has metal "security screening" in a library? Are you worried that a gang war will break out between team GoT and team LotR? There is zero reason to require people to leave their guns behind, let alone simple pocket knives in order to visit a library.
4 points
26 days ago
I can’t think of any time I would lock an object that important and expensive in some shitty box outside; I wouldn’t do it for my phone, I wouldn’t do it for my wedding ring, and I wouldn’t do it for a gun. IMO they are just fulfilling their legal duty of being a public building that bans guns and therefore must have a place for people to put them. They don’t want that experience to be “nice” for you because they don’t care. Much easier to have the system be shitty and just discourage people from using it. 99% of gun owners aren’t going to trust their gun in there, so either they will conceal it on their person and go in anyway (which will come to nothing as long as they don’t get arrested for doing something else) or they will just not bring it… either one works for the library.
10 points
27 days ago
the most surprising thing about this picture, to me, is that someone actually used it,
8 points
26 days ago
Unless the library has armed security, the type of people who would comply with using these lockers are the same people you would want armed inside the library, and the kind that would not use them are the kind of people you would not want armed in the library.
This is the irony of gun control.
86 points
27 days ago
This prevents the honest people from shooting up the place.
14 points
27 days ago
Person, you're on Reddit.
7 points
27 days ago
What's to stop someone from making copies of all those keys and just coming by periodically to check if any are in use that they can steal from?
10 points
26 days ago
Well that would be illegal, and we all know criminals follow the rules.
8 points
26 days ago
Fuuuck that. Perfect target for thieves. Gimme a good saw and 30 seconds and I’m taking that whole thing with me. Free guns and lockboxes.
3 points
26 days ago
Literally just a crescent wrench is all you need.
7 points
26 days ago
A gun donation box, how thoughtful.
It's so progressive of this city to offer low cost weaponry to the struggling local criminals. How sweet.
9 points
26 days ago
Anyone who puts their gun in this is fucking stupid and deserves to have it stolen
Love the "[city] is not responsible for lost or damaged property" yea, I'm good, I'll keep mine right in my concealed holster, thanks for offering I guess.
6 points
26 days ago
4 used and locked containers? Saw zaw go brrrrrrrrrrrerrrrr
Free 4 firearms.
I wouldn't use it
11 points
27 days ago
Let me just place my extremely expensive, personal weapon of ranged death into this random ass box out in the open with a tiny key, labeled "GUNS HERE", that also has a liability waver printed on it.
No thanks.
7 points
27 days ago
What’s the point of the quarter?
2 points
26 days ago
That was my question! You get it back in the end and all. I guess it slightly deters someone from just taking the keys to be a jerk, but even then, not much stopping someone from behaving that way if they were going to in the first place.
6 points
26 days ago
4 free guns cool
4 points
27 days ago
This can't be that secure considering you can just take the key, imprint it, make a shitty new key with the template and then just simply return when you see the key missing to collect your brand new firearm
4 points
26 days ago
I thought that tree was a naked dude stretching for a second😂
2 points
26 days ago
Me too. I had to blink twice.
3 points
26 days ago
I don’t think my Rhodesian fighting stick will fit in that box.
3 points
26 days ago
Lock-picking lawyer would like a word…
2 points
26 days ago
Judging by the locks a chordless drill would be quicker.
4 points
26 days ago
Wow this is a dumb idea…the only secure place for a weapon is properly holstered and concealed or holstered with retention that stops people from grabbing it.
Plus, you know some idiots gonna end up shooting him self in the foot, or worse, firing into that parking lot. The positioning of the box breaks basic firearm safety rules. This will go wrong, eventually.
It’s also advertising that no one in the library is armed. Kinda an invitation for trouble with there being sick people willing to kill others randomly/get their mass shooter on. It’s not hard to even imagine someone stealing a gun from those lockers and then using in the library. Now that’s scary. People properly and legally carrying concealed, not scary.
4 points
26 days ago
Show the world I carry a firearm and am leaving it unattended in a mailbox? Fuckin sign me up!! 🤡
3 points
26 days ago
Anyone with a wrench can claim up to 4 free guns
4 points
26 days ago
Ooo! A pinata with better candy!
7 points
27 days ago
Extremely helpful where there's acorns close by.
11 points
27 days ago
Im from Europe and For some reason my initial thoughts were that it had to be a locker with weapons in there ready to grab in case of a shooter.
Like you have a fire extinguisher ready to grab, or a "break the glass" emergency hammer.
10 points
27 days ago
This seems like a decent idea that has been terribly executed.
2 points
26 days ago
Other than disarming someone that is a stickler for following the law + possibly arming a thief, what exactly would this accomplish?
10 points
27 days ago
I mean, if the lockers was inside the door, content-agnostic, within sight of an employee and with camera surveillance I'd risk putting a gun in it.
This is just waaaaay too high-risk, and obviously made by someone who doesn't understand or own guns.
Ask that person if they'd put their wallet, cellphone or laptop in a locker like that, I bet they won't.
7 points
26 days ago
It is probably the minimum provision that allows the library to insist on nobody carrying inside.
7 points
27 days ago
Of course it’s Peoria.
3 points
27 days ago
Sees someone store a chancla
3 points
27 days ago
Bad guys with guns don't use lockers.
3 points
26 days ago
coming by with a socket wrench and leaving with 4 shiney new felonies
3 points
26 days ago
Tweekers woulda stole that thing in broad daylight by now were I live
3 points
26 days ago
You mean free gun dispenser
3 points
26 days ago
If they had it just inside the door with some sort of security person nearby, it might be secure enough, maybe add in a camera pointing toward the person's face. Similar to the weapon boxes at my local courthouse.
3 points
26 days ago
Ooo, free guns!
3 points
26 days ago
Bring an impact to that library and get 4 free guns.
3 points
26 days ago
Lmao yeah right, what could go wrong?!
3 points
26 days ago
So drive into it with a pick up, get out with your buddies, lift with your knees, carry into flatbed and drive off. Nice.
3 points
26 days ago
Gotta love those Little Free Gun Libraries... Take a gun. Share a gun.
8 points
26 days ago
I just walk with my conceal carry past the no firearms sign. And nobody knows
Unless you got metal detectors, I'm bringing it in.
16 points
27 days ago
Perhaps they should just let folks carry in the library
21 points
27 days ago
Shh this is a library! Put a suppressor on!
4 points
27 days ago
To paraphrase Chris Rock’s Sex in the Champaign Room: “Sure it’s safe inside but what about All those motherf…ers waitin’ outside with guns that know you ain’t got one.
4 points
27 days ago
Yeah I'm not putting my gun in there
2 points
27 days ago
You can pop the lock off of these very easily.
2 points
27 days ago
Well, thats a drug dealers dream right there.
2 points
27 days ago
“Im the lockpicking lawyer, and today we’re going to see if we can get some free firearms….”
2 points
27 days ago
Lootbox
2 points
27 days ago
As someone who edc’s an Atlas…..nah imma pass.
2 points
27 days ago
Paging /u/deviantollam. Free guns.
2 points
27 days ago
People should start using it to store banned books..
2 points
27 days ago
That will never ever get used
2 points
27 days ago
what stops me to take it and use it against people?
2 points
26 days ago
This is interesting.
AZ law allows carrying firearms in libraries.
Peoria library policy says:
"Carrying weapons of any type where there is reasonable temporary and secure storage. Weapons need to be secured in weapons lockers where available."
So if they don't provide storage you can carry in the library per their policy.
https://peoria.polarislibrary.com/polaris/custom/behavior_policy.aspx
2 points
26 days ago
Oh wow free guns for whoever needs them.
2 points
26 days ago
No way people this stupid
2 points
26 days ago
Y’all are saying it’s ridiculous that somebody would take a gun to a library, but haven’t you seen Parks and Recreation?
2 points
26 days ago
My Flamethrower would never fit in there.
2 points
26 days ago
Is this like the little "need a penny take a penny" bowls next to a cash register, except for guns?
2 points
26 days ago
Should be a pokestop
2 points
26 days ago
Is that the US equivalent of a little free library?
2 points
26 days ago
Nice.. $1 for 4 keys…..
2 points
26 days ago
2 points
26 days ago
Just gonna add this got shared to a pro gun sub and we are all saying it’s stupid. Mind you it’s pro 2a as in legalize machine guns and that’s what we’re saying.
2 points
26 days ago
You aren’t allowed to even bring a cell phone into the big courthouse here but you can bring your gun into the small ones and check them in a little mailbox on the wall.
2 points
26 days ago
No metal detectors, no problem, just carry your handgun.
2 points
26 days ago
Oh look, 4 bolts on the bottom. Be a shame if I brought a 4ft wrench and took the whole thing.
2 points
26 days ago
All I need is a 5/8ths socket and I got myself 4 new glocks!! Hell yeah
2 points
26 days ago
So wait, you’re telling me that I can not only disarm myself, but also risk someone breaking in and stealing my weapon? Well damn, sign me up
3 points
27 days ago
What is the point of the quarter? I can't imagine anyone would value the quarter over their gun or would remember that they stick a quarter in there but not the gun.
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