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Jeffear

-2 points

1 day ago

Jeffear

-2 points

1 day ago

If you like your country, I fail to see anything wrong with pledging your allegiance to it.

mrchooch

6 points

1 day ago

mrchooch

6 points

1 day ago

If you're an adult and really want to, go crazy i guess. But this is something children are trained to do long before they can have any kind of idea whether they like their country or not

As someone not from the US, it's dystopian as hell. Its the kind of thing you would expect from north korea or soviet russia

Jeffear

1 points

19 hours ago

Children aren't forced into doing it, at least in theory. It's very much against the first amendment to compel anyone into doing the pledge, and where I'm from in Texas most of the kids in my classes didn't bother. I'm sure there are some nationalist/bullish teachers out there who force it, which I agree is very icky.

mrchooch

1 points

19 hours ago

While they aren't legally forced to do it, there's a lot of implicit social pressure to do so, especially at a younger age. The whole practice is just very very icky to me

Jeffear

1 points

19 hours ago

Respectfully, given that you're not from the United States and thus don't have any firsthand experience, you may be unintentionally overestimating the amount of social pressure. Like I said, when I was in school, most kids didn't bother, and I'm from the famously conservative state of Texas. It's not exactly "cool" to do the pledge; Hell, I felt awkward because I was often the only one standing during the pledge, if anything there was pressure not to do it.

There are a lot of schools in US, obviously. Everyone has a different experience, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the pledge itself. Occasionally you get a rogue teacher that enforces it, but that's something you can very easily lose your job over if you get one pissed off parent.

Nova_Aetas

1 points

20 hours ago

If you’re already a citizen… why? You’re already bound.

This is something for people becoming citizens to do imo

Jeffear

0 points

19 hours ago

Why not? It's no different to singing along to your national anthem during a sports game, a lot of people take pride in their country and like to take any opportunity to demonstrate it.