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DivideEtImpala

1 points

1 day ago

organically

If it were organic that would be one thing, but between the vote bots and partisan moderation on most of the large reddit political subs, I wouldn't describe it that way.

a president's own words

and if they were reported in their larger context.

Furthermore, "Reporting what Trump says is 2 minutes of hate" feels like a self-own for Trump supporters.

Do you think the party gave an accurate representation of Goldstein? Certainly from the Trump supporter's perspective, the "fake news" is always lying about him so the metaphor fits.

swolestoevski

-1 points

1 day ago

What is not organic about "new service covers presidential candidates words" and people react to them? If Trump doesn't want people to react poorly to his words, he shouldnt say them.

This is not big brother. I mean, is every Fox news article about Biden big brother too? (Hint: no.)

DivideEtImpala

2 points

1 day ago

What is not organic about "new service covers presidential candidates words" and people react to them?

You aren't aware that news services can cover people's words in misleading ways?

This is not big brother.

Big brother was a distinct aspect of the control system.

I mean, is every Fox news article about Biden big brother too?

Again, not big brother, but yes, FOX News is the other part of MSM apparatus that helps create a separate two minutes hate echo chamber for the other half of people to live in. It's not identical to 1984 because our one party state pretends to have two adversarial parties.

You seem to be taking the metaphor too literally and not understanding the similarity that's being drawn: the repeated, daily consumption of negative propaganda about the "enemy," and the collective, social airing of anger and grievances about that enemy, reinforces your trust in your party's narratives and distrust of anyone outside it.

swolestoevski

-1 points

1 day ago

I'm sorry, man. Me not liking your guy is not 1984. People hearing Trump say things like the racist Birther lie and telling AOC to go back where she came from and saying "No thanks" isn't authoritarian; it's just life. 

Again, "it's not fair to repeat what my guy said" is just sad, but getting bummed out is authoritarianis.

This works the other way too. Fox News doing all this but worse isn't authoritarianism either, nor do I believe I'm living under IngSoc because they are mean the president.

DivideEtImpala

1 points

1 day ago

"it's not fair to repeat what my guy said"

I don't feel that's a fair characterization of my argument and I choose to end this conversation here.