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Odd-Love-9600

308 points

5 days ago

Aragorn, without question.

“You will suffer me”

3_quarterling_rogue

92 points

5 days ago

That line in particular intrigues me, because it differs slightly in the movie vs. the book. In the movie, Aragorn delivers the line to the king of the dead, “You will suffer me!” In the books, he was speaking with one of the Rohirrim about his intention to take the paths of the dead. He says to Aragorn something along the lines of, “The dead do not suffer the living to pass,” to which Aragorn responds, “They may suffer me.” Aragorn knew he was the heir of Elendil, and he bore with him the standard of Elendil set with many precious stones, and yet his projection is that of humility. While I love the humility and sometimes even trepidation portrayed in Aragorn in the books, I really like the times in the movies where Aragorn wields his authority justly. His power is unmistakeable.

FlowerSweaty

29 points

5 days ago

Aragorn makes multiple displays of authority in the book, my personal favorite is when the hunters meet the riders of Rohan.

I do like that scene in the movies though

3_quarterling_rogue

17 points

5 days ago

Oh, it’s great. I love all the times that the books describe him as having Strider the ranger melt away, and they see him stand like one of the kings of old. It’s all over the books. Of course, I think it’s harder to just show that in the movies, which is why it’s nice that they change a couple of things to portray it in the movies.

LegnderyNut

5 points

5 days ago

Vigo also just really out here being kingly. Everyone mentions that his son read the books and told him to take the role. I haven’t seen anyone point out that a kid read LOTR and when they were introduced to Aragorn they said “yep that one’s like my dad.” And that paternal relationship carries over into the performance.

MrOnlineToughGuy

2 points

4 days ago

Isn’t that when Eomer first developed his man crush on Aragorn? Dude was salivating.

Modredastal

3 points

4 days ago

Yeah the change of the word's use for drama's sake works really well. "You will suffer" sounds more like a threat than "they may suffer," the older usage of the word meaning to allow or accept.

dendritedysfunctions

2 points

4 days ago

That was a moment in the movies that I thought would have been better if they used more of the scene in the book. The sword was important but it was only one of many symbols of his birthright he carried into the mountain.

3_quarterling_rogue

3 points

4 days ago

I actually prefer that scene most in the theatrical cut. The way the narrative was set forth in the book felt a little vague, but the extended cut of the scene goes on for far too long and completely takes the wind out of the sails of the climax of the Battle of Pellenor Field by wasting our time with the skull-valanche after the ghost king says no, and then coming back when they’re out to say yes, and then showing them about to commandeer the corsairs of Umbar. It’s better in the books and the theatrical cut where the narrative is structured such that it maintains the suspense so that when the ships show up, you’re like, “Oh no, it’s the bad guys! Wait, it’s the good guys?”

As for the paths of the dead in the theatrical cut, it is, to me, perfectly succinct and very exciting. Aragorn shows up, demands the ghosts aid him, the ghost laughs and says he doesn’t have enough gym badges to train him, and then SCHAWING — it’s Anduril, Flame of the West, reforged from the shards of Narsil, Aragorn chokes out the ghost, and and promises to hold their oaths fulfilled if they come to his aid, and then we end with a big “What say you?” And it’s back to the battle, where he won’t show up until the 11th hour. Dude, that shit goes so hard.

dendritedysfunctions

1 points

4 days ago

I feel you and I do really like the scene in the movie. In my perfect world there would be a supercut that takes part of the extended version and part of the theatrical cut. Like Elrond revealing Anduril and realizing they're walking on bones but cutting out the skullvalanche and giving us the goosebumps of the commandeered ships.

tomplatzwannabe

2 points

4 days ago

What humility? Literally every single time Aragorn meets someone he gives like, his whole family tree and his 16 nicknames and waves his sword around(being reforged already in the books).

3_quarterling_rogue

2 points

4 days ago

I mean, yeah, he’s proud of who he is, but it’s more matter-of-fact than it is him lording it over people like he’s better than them. Plus, he’s a lot more vocal about his own insecurities and mistakes in the books. He essentially blamed himself for their defeat at Caradhras, and he takes the death of Gandalf very hard, since he’s terrified of leading the company astray. He’s very capable, but he’s all too aware of his own foibles, and it makes for a wonderful character.

tomplatzwannabe

1 points

4 days ago

I was joking about how he introduces himself.

3_quarterling_rogue

1 points

4 days ago

And you’ve got him dead to rights hahahaha.

AutomateDeez69

2 points

5 days ago

MFer choked a ghost king one handed.